[QUOTE="Wasdie"]There is really no reason to believe in a god of any sort outside of what a book and groups of people tell you. There has been no physical evidence of miracles ever in the history of man, and everything we have replicated with science and the right conditions has shown us time and time again a lot of crazy stuff can happen when the elements are just right.
Outside of a book there is no reason to believe a god created anything. The only real evidence needed is physical evidence. Unless some event occurs which cannot be explained or replicated in any way, there is no reason to believe a god exists.
Darkainious
Ahh, this is why I have faith. God is real, and he works through natural means. He doesn't need some black hole to open up to make his will happen on Earth. Imagine Earth as a great plan he has had in motion for billions of years. He can plan for natural events, and plan for miracles. This is the part where people say, well then I don't really have a choice, but in truth you do. Imagine God is your best friend. He knows you so well, that he knows what you are going to do next. He knows what everything and everyone is going to do next, so he plans for it. He truly is all powerful and all knowing. Do you have anything to support your position, or are you just going to recite a bunch of poetic-sounding niceties in an attempt to make your position seem better? I can do that too, you know. Ahhh, this is why I don't have faith, because there is beauty in tangible existence. Everything from astral events to the simple interactions of animals with their environment is a sign of natural beauty, and our scientific progress and superior cognition has allowed us to understand it all to a surprising degree. The idea that a simple folding of the cerebellum, an evolutionary quirk and the result of hundreds of millions of years of natural selection, could result in such a vast knowledge and mastery over natural processes is simply amazing. And yet we still can't plan for natural disasters because of the complexity of natural processes and natural selection that are the result of billions of years of evolution, geology, and even some forces we do not yet understand, but are beginning to at again a surprising pace. And through it all, we have freedom. We are the masters of our own lives, and we are the masters of the events of this planet, and while that brings great responsibility it also brings tremendous opportunity for exploration and growth. Sure, the world is uncertain, sure we can't be certain of pretty much anything, but that also leaves a universe of limitless possibilities just waiting to be explored by gifted beings such as ourselves. We don't need any mythological beings controlling our destiny because our destiny is too full of potential to be limited by some esoteric plan, it's there for us to seize and control.
Also, one final footnote, I have heard a lot of very smart people discuss the contradiction between divine plans and free will, I have yet to see any of them rememdy such a contradiction. If someone knows everything that will happen in my life and has even planned all the eents in my life, then I have no control over my life.
No, it is a lot more than just colloquial theory. It is billions of facts. 
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