"Football(Soccer) is ruining America".

Possibly the worst article I've read in months. Most likely the guy just can't play.

[QUOTE="Samurai_Xavier"]

Ive seen pretty much similar injuries in soccer. You can stop, we dont need to turn this into a "what sport is more violent thread".

Dawq902

[QUOTE="needled24-7"]

[QUOTE="Samurai_Xavier"]

Compared to soccer, seriously. Enlighten me if you think otherwise.

super_mario_128

The linemen are the ones that need to be big, because they have to keep other big guys from getting past them. It's not easy. And the running backs and receivers are some of the most athletic people in the world.

[QUOTE="needled24-7"]

[QUOTE="Samurai_Xavier"]

Compared to soccer, seriously. Enlighten me if you think otherwise.

Samurai_Xavier

The linemen are the ones that need to be big, because they have to keep other big guys from getting past them. It's not easy. And the running backs and receivers are some of the most athletic people in the world.

They still dont run anything compared to soccer players. They get to rest, walk, get back in line and formation, wait for the play to begin. Rest and walk again.

This is a joke, right? >_>Elraptor

Soccer is for the weak... I always wondered why those mexicans kick around a black and white ball..

Soccer is for the weak... I always wondered why those mexicans kick around a black and white ball..

cooper2003

OMG this thread is still going on even after I won it too....

I'll summarize my stance:

Americans don't like soccer because of the low scoring since all of our sports (aside from basketball) have around 3-5 scores for each team per game. Soccer is popular because it's the cheapest sport to play, and by this point it has become ingrained in the rest of the world. Now off with you. /thread

OMG this thread is still going on even after I won it too....

I'll summarize my stance:

Americans don't like soccer because of the low scoring since all of our sports (aside from basketball) have around 3-5 scores for each team per game. Soccer is popular because it's the cheapest sport to play, and by this point it has become ingrained in the rest of the world. Now off with you. /thread

Renegade_Fury

If we don't like "low-scoring" sports, then explain why hockey (which is a low-scoring sport by your standards) enjoys a following around the US.

I'll concede the "cheapest sport" part to you, though. Skates alone are pretty pricey.

I picture a 60 minutes report: The biggest problem facing america today, not it's not their corrupted government, failing economy, stupid presidents, obesity, pollution, terrorism. No the biggest problem america has is Soccer......*cricket shirps* ..................................................................................

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I picture a 60 minutes report: The biggest problem facing america today, not it's not their corrupted government, failing economy, stupid presidents, obesity, pollution, terrorism. No the biggest problem america has is Soccer......*cricket shirps* ..................................................................................

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lukadragon

[QUOTE="Renegade_Fury"]

OMG this thread is still going on even after I won it too....

I'll summarize my stance:

Americans don't like soccer because of the low scoring since all of our sports (aside from basketball) have around 3-5 scores for each team per game. Soccer is popular because it's the cheapest sport to play, and by this point it has become ingrained in the rest of the world. Now off with you. /thread

OrkHammer007

If we don't like "low-scoring" sports, then explain why hockey (which is a low-scoring sport by your standards) enjoys a following around the US.

I'll concede the "cheapest sport" part to you, though. Skates alone are pretty pricey.

I don't want to mention the ignorance of americansof the truth of their "democracy"because then i remember theirgovernmentkeep tryin to drag the rest of western world down with em. I don't want the world to be a rabble of free-for-all by corporations.

soccer>football

Hockey scores are around 3 goals per game for each team, and I was being sarcastic. Also hockey isn't nearly as popular in comparison to football, baseball, and basketball. Hockey does make up for it with the hard hits though, and teams still do score more often than soccer teams.

Renegade_Fury

For the record: I can't stand NFL football, not because of the reasons mentioned in this thread, but because the whole system (from officiating down to player drafts and free agency) is too badly tilted in favor of teams in the biggest TV markets. The NFL is what drove me to the NHL in the first place. :o

[QUOTE="Renegade_Fury"] Hockey scores are around 3 goals per game for each team, and I was being sarcastic. Also hockey isn't nearly as popular in comparison to football, baseball, and basketball. Hockey does make up for it with the hard hits though, and teams still do score more often than soccer teams.

OrkHammer007

For the record: I can't stand NFL football, not because of the reasons mentioned in this thread, but because the whole system (from officiating down to player drafts and free agency) is too badly tilted in favor of teams in the biggest TV markets. The NFL is what drove me to the NHL in the first place. :o

Well in the draft the college student usually has no choice which team he goes to unless, he **** like Elway or Manning, but that is extremely rare. In Free Agency I can see how you could think that, but typically players just go to the team that's willing to spend the most cap space. It's not like in the old days where my niners would buy everyone, though next year might go uncapped... Either way, it's up to the front office to make sure their team doesn't suck. As far as officiating goes, yeah it sucks and I do think the NHL refs are much better or at least more fair. I watch both sports pretty passionately though. :)

What stats do you want me to give? :|needled24-7

[QUOTE="needled24-7"]What stats do you want me to give? :|super_mario_128

[QUOTE="super_mario_128"][QUOTE="needled24-7"]What stats do you want me to give? :|needled24-7

Soccer is only boring to watch when the two teams you're watching both suck, and i don't think it's offensive or inaccurate to say that pretty much every American team is pretty terrible. Ninja-Hippo

Also creates the weakest people known to man.AirGuitarist87

[QUOTE="needled24-7"]

[QUOTE="super_mario_128"] None, because you can't, as you pulled that previous statement out of your ass. Saying "American football players are some of the most athletic people in the world' is pointless since your views are merely nationalistic and not factual.super_mario_128

And I never said either sport was better than the other. That one guy Samuraisomething (I think that's who it was) basically said that all American football was was guys trying to get big, and that they are lazy, etc., and I was telling him he was wrong.

[QUOTE="AirGuitarist87"]Also creates the weakest people known to man.Ninja-Hippo

I think one reason why it's not really popular in the US is because it isn't known to Americans as a homegrown, All-American sport. Same with hockey, which is known as a Canadian game. Baseball, basketball and gridiron football are "American" sports and are all popular there. Pretty xenophobic if you ask me.

[QUOTE="super_mario_128"][QUOTE="needled24-7"]None of the views in this thread are factual. And I don't even really like football. I don't watch it, and the only time I've ever played on an organized team was in 8th grade.

And I never said either sport was better than the other. That one guy Samuraisomething (I think that's who it was) basically said that all American football was was guys trying to get big, and that they are lazy, etc., and I was telling him he was wrong.

Just a question as I'm not that familiar with the European leagues, is there a big difference between relegation and simply not making the playoffs?

I mean if a team isn't good enough, they don't even get to play in the post season. What's the difference?

DaBrainz

Don't think this ever got answered. In most countries there is a pyramid system, several divisions (in England, Premiership is top, Championship, League 1, League 2, Conference, Ryman's league, Ryman's North and it's southern division then several others.) so in theory, a team is a pub league could one day be champions of England. Those top of their division and sometimes second and third, go up to the next level but those bottom (and sometimes second and third bottom) of a division go down to a lower one. These means less money, less prestige, a smaller fanbase, the best players leave and it can be very difficult to get back to the previous division, in some cases relegation begins a spiral that only eventually stops so relegation can be a disaster for a club.

why is it ruining america, it should be helping to reduce obesity level of children. kids here in the uk are always playing football thus, healthy kids.

[QUOTE="KG86"]

If anything it is making the US better.

fanboy-buster

Lol, I totally agree. American football and baseball are snore-fests.

When the FIFA Soccer World Cup comes around, you'll see over a billion people watching. Yes... only ONE sport can do that :)

[QUOTE="fanboy-buster"][QUOTE="KG86"]

If anything it is making the US better.

Lol, I totally agree. American football and baseball are snore-fests.

When the FIFA Soccer World Cup comes around, you'll see over a billion people watching. Yes... only ONE sport can do that :)

I totally agree with this... It is way more fun to watch it than American football or basedull (shrugs)fanboy-buster

Lol, I totally agree. American football and baseball are snore-fests.

When the FIFA Soccer World Cup comes around, you'll see over a billion people watching. Yes... only ONE sport can do that :)

You have to admit, American football is a tad slow. I mean, how can you extend 4 x 15 minutes into 3+ hours?jimmyjammer69

If anything it is making the US better.

KG86

QFT. We need moar!

I totally agree with this... It is way more fun to watch it than American football or basedull (shrugs)fanboy-buster

Lol, I totally agree. American football and baseball are snore-fests.

When the FIFA Soccer World Cup comes around, you'll see over a billion people watching. Yes... only ONE sport can do that :)

I love watching soccer, I dont really watch the mls though.