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So the Islamic extremist group behind the poppy burning on Armistice Day have decided to hold a demonstration against the royal wedding. I find this rather bizarre as I'm not totally sure what they want to achieve with this? The poppy burning successfully offended plenty of people and the perpetrators were fined a mere £50...

It's difficult to take this seriously really as it's only a small sect. I don't have a huge problem with Islam, I believe extremists are rife everywhere in every religion and every walk of life, and I'm also a great believer in equality, but this is really going too far. Both the poppy burning and the 'potential disruption' I find really troubling.

We probably shouldn't be giving these guys coverage, but i thought it was an interesting topic.

What's OT's view on this?

http://www.muslimsagainstcrusades.com/

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#2 MobilechicaneX
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They're Muslims. Here in OT, they're the best and can't do anything wrong.

But yeah, this is disgusting.

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They're Muslims. Here in OT, they're the best and can't do anything wrong.

MobilechicaneX

Yep, those of us who think Muslims deserve to be treated equally completely support stupid things like this and groups like al-Qaeda.
:roll:

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#4 Chogyam
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haha, wow. they won't get anywhere near the wedding though. I hope they detain them, indefinitely, after they show up.

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Whets new, I'm sure they will find a way to blow up the wedding. Meanwhile I will be playing some Gears 3 whilst the chaos commences.
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#6 carrot-cake
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Yeah, this type of thing won't cause more Islamophobia in Europe at all. :roll: What a bunch of nutters. Also, burning poppies? I didn't know they did that, thats just disgusting. What a bunch of swine.

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#7 DroidPhysX
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[QUOTE="MobilechicaneX"]

They're Muslims. Here in OT, they're the best and can't do anything wrong.

JML897

Yep, those of us who think Muslims deserve to be treated equally completely support stupid things like this and groups like al-Qaeda.
:roll:

They do get treated equally. I dont see a law that says other wise. And speaking of equal, almost all the Islamic governments don't treat people equally. Namely women.

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Whets new, I'm sure they will find a way to blow up the wedding. Meanwhile I will be playing some Gears 3 whilst the chaos commences.Evolution-X0
Haha, a fine choice :P
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I get it. They are saying, "although the Crusades may have ended officially years ago...The battle is still ongoing and the British monarchy is a leader." Personally, I don't know what to say to this. I mean, it was the Church that started the Crusades and the troops were Germanic mercenaries. Maybe they're right.
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Sucks for normal muslims.
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Yeah, this type of thing won't cause more Islamophobia in Europe at all. :roll: What a bunch of nutters. Also, burning poppies? I didn't know they did that, thats just disgusting. What a bunch of swine.

carrot-cake

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/8365926/Muslim-extremist-fined-50-for-setting-fire-to-poppies.html

Welcome to England were swearing in the street and littering gets you a bigger fine than,desecrating the memory of the dead.

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Sucks for normal muslims.xTheExploited

Seeing where this thread is going already, I'm gonna agree with this statement.

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Sucks for normal muslims.xTheExploited

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This is just idiotic, the royal family have no real religous or political value.
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[QUOTE="carrot-cake"]

Yeah, this type of thing won't cause more Islamophobia in Europe at all. :roll: What a bunch of nutters. Also, burning poppies? I didn't know they did that, thats just disgusting. What a bunch of swine.

True_Chaos_UK

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/8365926/Muslim-extremist-fined-50-for-setting-fire-to-poppies.html

Welcome to England were swearing in the street and littering gets you a bigger fine than,desecrating the memory of the dead.

Whilst i usually take the Telegraph with a pinch of salt, the interview really highlights choudry to be the arse that he is. I mean what I find strange is he refers to his 'brothers and sisters' in Afghanistan being killed and maimed, yet he is in the 'enemies' country? I don't understand that part, if we're so bad, why live within the walls of the enemy?
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#16 bobaban
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They're Muslims. Here in OT, they're the best and can't do anything wrong.MobilechicaneX
But guys its only a select group of Muslims that are doing this! It's not like these types of stories keep popping over and over again. :roll:

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#17 Sajo7
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This is just idiotic, the royal family have no real religous or political value. markop2003
I'm sure they just want exposure, with the royal wedding being the big pop culture story I guess they thought this was a sensible course of action.
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[QUOTE="MobilechicaneX"]They're Muslims. Here in OT, they're the best and can't do anything wrong.bobaban

But guys its only a select group of Muslims that are doing this! It's not like these types of stories keep popping over and over again. :roll:

"These types of stories" pop up about as often as Westboro Baptist Church, Terry Jones, etc stories pop up.

Face it, every religion (and atheism) has their fair share of morons.

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[QUOTE="MobilechicaneX"]They're Muslims. Here in OT, they're the best and can't do anything wrong.bobaban

But guys its only a select group of Muslims that are doing this! It's not like these types of stories keep popping over and over again. :roll:

I'm just saying, if this were an argument that involved Christians then nobody would be defending them.

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[QUOTE="bobaban"]

[QUOTE="MobilechicaneX"]They're Muslims. Here in OT, they're the best and can't do anything wrong.MobilechicaneX

But guys its only a select group of Muslims that are doing this! It's not like these types of stories keep popping over and over again. :roll:

I'm just saying, if this were an argument that involved Christians then nobody would be defending them.

I thought the rolleyes indicated my sarcasm.
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[QUOTE="bobaban"]

[QUOTE="MobilechicaneX"]They're Muslims. Here in OT, they're the best and can't do anything wrong.MobilechicaneX

But guys its only a select group of Muslims that are doing this! It's not like these types of stories keep popping over and over again. :roll:

I'm just saying, if this were an argument that involved Christians then nobody would be defending them.

.....nobody's really defending these guys either

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I wonder what would happen if some British and American folks were to protest during one of their weddings.
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[QUOTE="MobilechicaneX"]

[QUOTE="bobaban"] But guys its only a select group of Muslims that are doing this! It's not like these types of stories keep popping over and over again. :roll:

JML897

I'm just saying, if this were an argument that involved Christians then nobody would be defending them.

.....nobody's really defending these guys either

Although, if you bash Islam versus bashing Christianity, Islam would be defended more often than not

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They're Muslims. Here in OT, they're the best .

MobilechicaneX
And don't you forget it!
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[QUOTE="JML897"]

[QUOTE="MobilechicaneX"]

I'm just saying, if this were an argument that involved Christians then nobody would be defending them.

DroidPhysX

.....nobody's really defending these guys either

Although, if you bash Islam versus bashing Christianity, Islam would be defended more often than not

Which I agree isn't right. I think bashing either religion as a whole is stupid.

I do think some Christians have a persecution complex though.

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[QUOTE="JML897"]

[QUOTE="MobilechicaneX"]

I'm just saying, if this were an argument that involved Christians then nobody would be defending them.

DroidPhysX

.....nobody's really defending these guys either

Although, if you bash Islam versus bashing Christianity, Islam would be defended more often than not

Bashing either one is stupid. You perceive a greater number defending Islam simply because Islam gets more bashing nowadays.
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[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"]

[QUOTE="JML897"]

.....nobody's really defending these guys either

Theokhoth

Although, if you bash Islam versus bashing Christianity, Islam would be defended more often than not

Bashing either one is stupid. You perceive a greater number defending Islam simply because Islam gets more bashing nowadays.

That could be it as well

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I believe they are the islamic world's version of the Westboro baptist church.

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It's unfortunate that western Europe wasn't unified during the time of the Crusades we wouldn't be having these problems now.

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This is just idiotic, the royal family have no real religous or political value. markop2003
But they have loads of money. What that has to do with anything is beyond me.
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It's unfortunate that western Europe wasn't unified during the time of the Crusades we wouldn't be having these problems now.

Skarwolf
Yeah man! We could have committed cultural genocide! Think of the possibilities! :roll:
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so? you can protest whatever you want
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call me when they bring some RPGs with them to the wedding, nothing to see here folks.

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1- Walk up to Muslim extremist 2- Show him/her a self drawn picture of Mohammad 3- ???? 4- Profit
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[QUOTE="imaps3fanboy"]1- Walk up to Muslim extremist 2- Show him/her a self drawn picture of Mohammad 3- ???? 4- Death

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[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"]

[QUOTE="JML897"]

.....nobody's really defending these guys either

Theokhoth

Although, if you bash Islam versus bashing Christianity, Islam would be defended more often than not

Bashing either one is stupid. You perceive a greater number defending Islam simply because Islam gets more bashing nowadays.

I think it's the other way round....least in OT.
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The wannabe muslims are just trying to make Prince William's wedding as memorable as his mother Princess Diana's wedding was :twisted:

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[QUOTE="Skarwolf"]

It's unfortunate that western Europe wasn't unified during the time of the Crusades we wouldn't be having these problems now.

majoras_wrath
Yeah man! We could have committed cultural genocide! Think of the possibilities! :roll:

No "we" wouldn't have. Western Europe would have. The result, Christian middle east and no problems.
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so? you can protest whatever you wantweezyfb

This is not a valid arguement. While holding public, peaceful protests is a constitutional right, it is only permissable if it does not cause harm to anyone else. Especially in the case of the Westboro baptist church's protesting at funerals, and to a lesser extent here, it is definitely causing harm to some one else. That court ruling a few months back that the WBC could not face criminal penalties was complete bull. If the victims can't get compenstation, then they should at least be able to beat the **** out of the Wesboro church members if they show up.

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[QUOTE="majoras_wrath"][QUOTE="Skarwolf"]

It's unfortunate that western Europe wasn't unified during the time of the Crusades we wouldn't be having these problems now.

Skarwolf
Yeah man! We could have committed cultural genocide! Think of the possibilities! :roll:

No "we" wouldn't have. Western Europe would have. The result, Christian middle east and no problems.

And just think, if those crazy Germans had wiped out their Jewish population we wouldn't have a "Jewish problem" in Europe!. :roll: I'm being sarcastic just because if I was to respond seriously I'd be modded. :)
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[QUOTE="majoras_wrath"][QUOTE="Skarwolf"]

It's unfortunate that western Europe wasn't unified during the time of the Crusades we wouldn't be having these problems now.

Skarwolf

Yeah man! We could have committed cultural genocide! Think of the possibilities! :roll:

No "we" wouldn't have. Western Europe would have. The result, Christian middle east and no problems.

If anything Christians are to blame to for the problems in the middle east.

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[QUOTE="Skarwolf"][QUOTE="majoras_wrath"] Yeah man! We could have committed cultural genocide! Think of the possibilities! :roll:Tokugawa77

No "we" wouldn't have. Western Europe would have. The result, Christian middle east and no problems.

If anything Christians are to blame to for the problems in the middle east.

And there we have it. :|
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[QUOTE="Skarwolf"][QUOTE="majoras_wrath"] Yeah man! We could have committed cultural genocide! Think of the possibilities! :roll:majoras_wrath
No "we" wouldn't have. Western Europe would have. The result, Christian middle east and no problems.

And just think, if those crazy Germans had wiped out their Jewish population we wouldn't have a "Jewish problem" in Europe!. :roll: I'm being sarcastic just because if I was to respond seriously I'd be modded. :)

The sad thing is your point is just as valid / THE SAME EXACT THING as what he was saying. That should really show how ridiculous his original post was.

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[QUOTE="Tokugawa77"]

[QUOTE="Skarwolf"] No "we" wouldn't have. Western Europe would have. The result, Christian middle east and no problems.LJS9502_basic

If anything Christians are to blame to for the problems in the middle east.

And there we have it. :|

lol it's true. Why do you think that the middle east is a mess and Europe is the most stable region in the world? It is not because Islam will inherently lead countries into ruin, it is because the Europeans went in there are screwed everything up with colonization, just like they screwed up the rest of the world. Now of course there are a lot of other factors, but exploitation by christian europeans is the root cause.

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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Tokugawa77"]

If anything Christians are to blame to for the problems in the middle east.

Tokugawa77

And there we have it. :|

lol it's true. Why do you think that the middle east is a mess and Europe is the most stable region in the world? It is not because Islam will inherently lead countries into ruin, it is because the Europeans went in there are screwed everything up with colonization, just like they screwed up the rest of the world. Now of course there are a lot of other factors, but exploitation by christian europeans is the root cause.

Using that logic, we should also blame the protestantism for this recession because most of the CEOs of the big banks were white protestants.

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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Tokugawa77"]

If anything Christians are to blame to for the problems in the middle east.

Tokugawa77

And there we have it. :|

lol it's true. Why do you think that the middle east is a mess and Europe is the most stable region in the world? It is not because Islam will inherently lead countries into ruin, it is because the Europeans went in there are screwed everything up with colonization, just like they screwed up the rest of the world. Now of course there are a lot of other factors, but exploitation by christian europeans is the root cause.

Countless things wrong with this
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poor Britain's

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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Tokugawa77"]

If anything Christians are to blame to for the problems in the middle east.

Tokugawa77

And there we have it. :|

lol it's true. Why do you think that the middle east is a mess and Europe is the most stable region in the world? It is not because Islam will inherently lead countries into ruin, it is because the Europeans went in there are screwed everything up with colonization, just like they screwed up the rest of the world. Now of course there are a lot of other factors, but exploitation by christian europeans is the root cause.

Are you implying Europeans introduced Christianity to the Middle East?
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Tokugawa77"]

If anything Christians are to blame to for the problems in the middle east.

Tokugawa77

And there we have it. :|

lol it's true. Why do you think that the middle east is a mess and Europe is the most stable region in the world? It is not because Islam will inherently lead countries into ruin, it is because the Europeans went in there are screwed everything up with colonization, just like they screwed up the rest of the world. Now of course there are a lot of other factors, but exploitation by christian europeans is the root cause.

You don't find that a contradiction?
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So the Islamic extremist group behind the poppy burning on Armistice Day have decided to hold a demonstration against the royal wedding. I find this rather bizarre as I'm not totally sure what they want to achieve with this? The poppy burning successfully offended plenty of people and the perpetrators were fined a mere £50...

It's difficult to take this seriously really as it's only a small sect. I don't have a huge problem with Islam, I believe extremists are rife everywhere in every religion and every walk of life, and I'm also a great believer in equality, but this is really going too far. Both the poppy burning and the 'potential disruption' I find really troubling.

We probably shouldn't be giving these guys coverage, but i thought it was an interesting topic.

What's OT's view on this?

http://www.muslimsagainstcrusades.com/

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