Rap is where it at now

[QUOTE="GodLovesDead"]Rap is where the shallow, stupid, boring pop music is. The good music is in metal.xboxplayer1990

Metal is garbage. Just people growling about worshiping satan and no catchy beats or hooks.

Rap is "Look at all the expensive things I can afford." Do you really think it's any better?

[QUOTE="GodLovesDead"]Rap is where the shallow, stupid, boring pop music is. The good music is in metal.xboxplayer1990

Metal is garbage. Just people growling about worshiping satan and no catchy beats or hooks.

Rap is garbage. All gangsters rapping about hoes, no melody or composition.

Rap is where the shallow, stupid, boring pop music is. The good music is in metal.GodLovesDead

I think the best music is classical and orchestral. And do you know where metal comes from? I'm not trying to intimidate you or anything, but alot of people don't know what the origin of metal is.

[QUOTE="GodLovesDead"]Rap is where the shallow, stupid, boring pop music is. The good music is in metal.xboxplayer1990

Metal is garbage. Just people growling about worshiping satan and no catchy beats or hooks.

Rap is where the shallow, stupid, boring pop music is. The good music is in metal.GodLovesDead

I hate metal, and i luv rap, but right now i have to agree with your first statement. Everything you said is true. Sure there are the few rappers who are actually...rappers, but the majority of "rap" we listen to nowadays falls perfectly into your description.

[QUOTE="xboxplayer1990"]

[QUOTE="GodLovesDead"]Rap is where the shallow, stupid, boring pop music is. The good music is in metal.harashawn

Metal is garbage. Just people growling about worshiping satan and no catchy beats or hooks.

Rap is "Look at all the expensive things I can afford." Do you really think it's any better?

Ya cuz if you had the money wouldn't you brag about your cars and clothes?

[QUOTE="MattUD1"][QUOTE="RushMetallica"][QUOTE="MattUD1"][QUOTE="FalcoLX"][QUOTE="Greatgone12"][QUOTE="RushMetallica"]

Exactly what I was thinking. Neil Peart is a genius.

RushMetallica

Einstein was a genius, but there's no way in hell I'm going to listen to Einstein music.

Also rap sucks. It's all the same 4 measures repeated over and over for 3 minutes.

Not Opeth, Dream Theater, etc. And, I think songs can repeat parts, that's what a songs is, but it can still be good.

The second part was really aimed towards the other guy FalcoLX

Rap is garbage. All gangsters rapping about hoes, no melody or composition. GodLovesDead

[QUOTE="harashawn"][QUOTE="xboxplayer1990"]

[QUOTE="GodLovesDead"]Rap is where the shallow, stupid, boring pop music is. The good music is in metal.xboxplayer1990

Metal is garbage. Just people growling about worshiping satan and no catchy beats or hooks.

Rap is "Look at all the expensive things I can afford." Do you really think it's any better?

Ya cuz if you had the money wouldn't you brag about your cars and clothes?

No.....Especially not the way rappers do.

[QUOTE="harashawn"][QUOTE="xboxplayer1990"]

[QUOTE="GodLovesDead"]Rap is where the shallow, stupid, boring pop music is. The good music is in metal.xboxplayer1990

Metal is garbage. Just people growling about worshiping satan and no catchy beats or hooks.

Rap is "Look at all the expensive things I can afford." Do you really think it's any better?

Ya cuz if you had the money wouldn't you brag about your cars and clothes?

Yes, but I wouldn't waste musical talent, energy, resources, time, radio time, and lots of other things to get my point across.

Ya cuz if you had the money wouldn't you brag about your cars and clothes?

xboxplayer1990

I fail to see how bragging about how wealthy you are makes your music good.

[QUOTE="harashawn"][QUOTE="xboxplayer1990"]

[QUOTE="GodLovesDead"]Rap is where the shallow, stupid, boring pop music is. The good music is in metal.xboxplayer1990

Metal is garbage. Just people growling about worshiping satan and no catchy beats or hooks.

Rap is "Look at all the expensive things I can afford." Do you really think it's any better?

Ya cuz if you had the money wouldn't you brag about your cars and clothes?

Please stop. You're making it embarassing to me and the other rap fans here. :|

[QUOTE="AlphaRail"]

[QUOTE="xboxplayer1990"]Lil Wayne, Kanye West, Young Jeezy, Ludacris, T.I. and T-Pain rule the music world now. No one wants that silly screamo and growling. Classic Rock will always live on but rap is the future of musicxboxplayer1990

Please no....you don't know good hip hop, and HAHAHHAHAHHAHAHA @ Lil Wayne being a good if you could call him an "artist". Good hip hop is old hip hop...there is no music that it is "where it's at"...most are comming out with worse and worse music.

Your so called "good hip hop" is overrated boringness. What makes it good? Lyrics? Lyrics are THE most overrated thing ever. Who says most people wanna listen to someone elses life story? Most people want lyrics about beer, drugs, and sex. Something most people can relate to. Not a boring beat with someone saying they grew up tough.

:|. Hip hop is a type of poetry, and in poetry it is spposed to be about lyrics, they should make you see what is happening in your mind, you should be able to relate to it or teach you good morals...and if it is about sex, beer and drugs, I wouldn't care too much as long as it is good lyrics.../face palm.

[QUOTE="Greatgone12"]

You argue that rap is "where it at now," but you can't even make a list of good rappers to support your argument.

A_Milli

What you talkin about look at my sig8) The TC knows what he's talkin about;)

lil wayne is garbage.

[QUOTE="Greatgone12"]

You argue that rap is "where it at now," but you can't even make a list of good rappers to support your argument.

A_Milli

What you talkin about look at my sig8) The TC knows what he's talkin about;)

i agree with greatgone12.

"at your sig"? you've got a woman in a bikini nodding for no real reason, and a dude who likes throughing money, and one last guy who "dances like no ones watching".

yup. rap sure is the future. im gonna go burn all my Guns 'N Roses tees, and my Nirvana tees now. see you all later.

Lil Wayne, Kanye West, Young Jeezy, Ludacris, T.I. and T-Pain rule the music world now. No one wants that silly screamo and growling. Classic Rock will always live on but rap is the future of musicxboxplayer1990

Please stop. You're making it embarassing to me and the other rap fans here. :|

yeah. just stop.

Aight then for y'all with your "good hip hop" what makes it so great? Because some rappers that USE to be poor but now they are rich and live in big homes repeat the same lyrics over and over about how they grew up? Yawn.xboxplayer1990

I don't know, maybe because it has phenomenal instrumentals? Or great lyrics?

And those are just two examples. From artists that are currently performing. :|

You argue that rap is "where it at now," but you can't even make a list of good rappers to support your argument.

Greatgone12

gotta agree. While "rap" is topping the charts, it's losing it's street origins and becoming more pop. Take a look at Whatever you like by T.I. Boy that's a mainstream song.

In terms of popularity-hip hop is outstanding

In terms of the quality of the music being produced-well it's certainly not in good shape

Except for Ludacris and Kanye West, and Ye is decent at best, most of those rappers are only average to above average. Try guys like Nas, Eminem (try No Apologies, Lose Yourself, The Way I Am, Stan), Saigon, Obie Trice, Jay-Z, A Tribe Called Quest, 2Pac, Binary Star, Biggie, Lupe Fiasco, and Beastie Boys.

Lil Wayne is good (I did like I feel Like Dyin'), but he's starting to fall off a bit with Tha Carter III (autotuning his voice just killed the album for me, and yes I think that Tha Carter II is better). TI is good with Trap Muzic, Live in the Sky from King was dope, but TI vs. TIP was just mediocre. Can't comment on Papertrail yet.

Lil Wayne, Kanye West, Young Jeezy, Ludacris, T.I. and T-Pain rule the music world now. No one wants that silly screamo and growling. Classic Rock will always live on but rap is the future of musicxboxplayer1990

[QUOTE="xboxplayer1990"]Aight then for y'all with your "good hip hop" what makes it so great? Because some rappers that USE to be poor but now they are rich and live in big homes repeat the same lyrics over and over about how they grew up? Yawn.Jaks_Secret

I don't know, maybe because it has phenomenal instrumentals? Or great lyrics?

And those are just two examples. From artists that are currently performing. :|

Lupe Fiasco is wack.

[QUOTE="JackMcSexbeard"]

This album is greater than the collective works of all the rappers you listed.

xboxplayer1990

Suuuuuuuuure it is

I doubt you have actually listen to that album so enough of your babble.

It's probably too hardcore for you anyway.

[QUOTE="Jaks_Secret"]

[QUOTE="xboxplayer1990"]Aight then for y'all with your "good hip hop" what makes it so great? Because some rappers that USE to be poor but now they are rich and live in big homes repeat the same lyrics over and over about how they grew up? Yawn.xboxplayer1990

I don't know, maybe because it has phenomenal instrumentals? Or great lyrics?

And those are just two examples. From artists that are currently performing. :|

Lupe Fiasco is wack.

Well that proves it.

It's a joke topic. No need for anymore arguement.

[QUOTE="Jaks_Secret"]

[QUOTE="xboxplayer1990"]Aight then for y'all with your "good hip hop" what makes it so great? Because some rappers that USE to be poor but now they are rich and live in big homes repeat the same lyrics over and over about how they grew up? Yawn.xboxplayer1990

I don't know, maybe because it has phenomenal instrumentals? Or great lyrics?

And those are just two examples. From artists that are currently performing. :|

Lupe Fiasco is wack.

And . . . I'm calling it.

At 7:44 EST, this thread became a joke topic.

Fiasco has never had a tight beat and he's boring to listen to. I just guess things are a joke when someone doesn't agree with you, right?

Ugh, a next opinion post,

Facts pl0x!

Fiasco has never had a tight beat and he's boring to listen to. I just guess things are a joke when someone doesn't agree with you, right?

xboxplayer1990

Oh, no, there are plenty of reasons this is a joke topic. ;)

[QUOTE="xboxplayer1990"][QUOTE="Jaks_Secret"]

[QUOTE="xboxplayer1990"]Aight then for y'all with your "good hip hop" what makes it so great? Because some rappers that USE to be poor but now they are rich and live in big homes repeat the same lyrics over and over about how they grew up? Yawn.Jaks_Secret

I don't know, maybe because it has phenomenal instrumentals? Or great lyrics?

And those are just two examples. From artists that are currently performing. :|

Lupe Fiasco is wack.

And . . . I'm calling it.

At 7:44 EST, this thread became a joke topic.

Ive lost too much respect for rap. I cant even listen to 2pac or Biggie anymore. Its very negative music and you learn nothing from it. Also copying beats and not even using real instrument can hardly be called a musician. Just pure dumb entertainment of BSing little cry babies. They talk all tough but they need a pose, they are pimps but only pimp at the strip club. balindos

too bad they're dead lol....

[QUOTE="xboxplayer1990"]

Fiasco has never had a tight beat and he's boring to listen to. I just guess things are a joke when someone doesn't agree with you, right?

Jaks_Secret

Oh, no, there are plenty of reasons this is a joke topic. ;)

Name them. And don't try to use your same "reasons" in different wording.

Lil Wayne, Kanye West, Young Jeezy, Ludacris, T.I. and T-Pain rule the music world now. No one wants that silly screamo and growling. Classic Rock will always live on but rap is the future of musicxboxplayer1990

It's depressing on how shallow rap has become now. Really it just feels like it has no soul in its music anymore.

It kills me to say that cause I used to love rap.

Fiasco has never had a tight beat and he's boring to listen to. I just guess things are a joke when someone doesn't agree with you, right?

xboxplayer1990

So if you havea good beat then that means you have a good rap song. :|

I think Lupe's beats are fine. And yes if the person's arguement, just like yours, can and seems like a joke.

[QUOTE="xboxplayer1990"]

Fiasco has never had a tight beat and he's boring to listen to. I just guess things are a joke when someone doesn't agree with you, right?

muffincakes87

So if you havea good beat then that means you have a good rap song. :|

I think Lupe's beats are fine. And yes if the person's arguement, just like yours, can and seems like a joke.

Music was made to have catchy beats and be something to dance or sing to. Everything from Elvis to Snoop Dogg. So yes if the beat is great then that can make it a good song.

Name them. And don't try to use your same "reasons" in different wording.

xboxplayer1990

You take the most bland, generic artists and say that they're great.

You reject everyone else's music, which is better than yours.

You claim that all people want to hear is lyrics about booze and sex.

I think that last one is all the reason I need. :|

Lil Wayne, Kanye West, Young Jeezy, Ludacris, T.I. and T-Pain rule the music world now. No one wants that silly screamo and growling. Classic Rock will always live on but rap is the future of musicxboxplayer1990

Sorry you say you have fallen into the trend.

My first tunes were the fat boys the people from the disorderlys 80s comedy movie, it was a rap tape i found at a beach lol when i was a kid...then i started listening to guns n roses then that got me into metallica and then pantera/anthrax.

metal is my type of music and been that for 20 some years....some rap is alright the old school...but these new rappers sucks.

[QUOTE="xboxplayer1990"]

Name them. And don't try to use your same "reasons" in different wording.

Jaks_Secret

You take the most bland, generic artists and say that they're great. Opinion

You reject everyone else's music, which is better than yours. Opinion

You claim that all people want to hear is lyrics about booze and sex. Show me where I used the worl ALL

I think that last one is all the reason I need. :|

Fixed.

[QUOTE="muffincakes87"][QUOTE="xboxplayer1990"]

Fiasco has never had a tight beat and he's boring to listen to. I just guess things are a joke when someone doesn't agree with you, right?

xboxplayer1990

So if you havea good beat then that means you have a good rap song. :|

I think Lupe's beats are fine. And yes if the person's arguement, just like yours, can and seems like a joke.

Music was made to have catchy beats and be something to dance or sing to. Everything from Elvis to Snoop Dogg. So yes if the beat is great then that can make it a good song.

That is true.

But your also forgetting that music is also used to send a message. Your obviously not hearing what Lupe is trying to say.

I can understand someone not liking Lupe but for saying just for his beats. Like many would say, your just plain wack.

[QUOTE="GodLovesDead"]Rap is garbage. All gangsters rapping about hoes, no melody or composition. CrimzonTide

Don't worry, I wasn't being serious - just mocking his ignorant generalizations. I acknowledge there's good rap out there. But all the popular crap music right now is utilizing rap.

[QUOTE="GodLovesDead"]Rap is where the shallow, stupid, boring pop music is. The good music is in metal.xboxplayer1990

Metal is garbage. Just people growling about worshiping satan and no catchy beats or hooks.

Bad generalization is bad.