Rap is where it at now

[QUOTE="airg6"][QUOTE="xboxplayer1990"][QUOTE="MrLions"]

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]I'm afraid that for there to be a future for music, you need music, not noise.xboxplayer1990

So ur saying classical music is garbage? :o BLASPHEMY!!!

lol at classical. O ya teh ALMIGHTY BEETOVEN!!! but seriously I'd rather be forced to listen to the tings tings over classical.

Ashlee Simpson's real voice>Cla**ical

:lol:

Nice one.

[QUOTE="airg6"][QUOTE="xboxplayer1990"][QUOTE="MrLions"]

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]I'm afraid that for there to be a future for music, you need music, not noise.xboxplayer1990

So ur saying classical music is garbage? :o BLASPHEMY!!!

lol at classical. O ya teh ALMIGHTY BEETOVEN!!! but seriously I'd rather be forced to listen to the tings tings over classical.

Ashlee Simpson's real voice>Cla**ical

Someone sig this.

So.....I don't like rap. Does that mean I'm wrong? Just curious. :)DarkPrinceXC

No but you should respect it. I don't really like metal but I can respect it for what it is.

I know all it tells you is to become a gangster an join some sort of gang, it has ruin Martin Luther Kings time trying to make peace, it causes people to become seperate, not together. Kids shouldn't liston to those violent rap music. Rap is not the future music, a new type of music would come out in the future.

Makemap

I'm sorry, everyone can have an opinion, but your opinion is wrong.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ScPoBEFl1Y you know, the worst part about "Forest Whitaker" by Brother Ali is when he says that you shouldnt judge him and hes happy with the way he is...thats gang promotion!

[QUOTE="DarkPrinceXC"]So.....I don't like rap. Does that mean I'm wrong? Just curious. :)JackMcSexbeard

No but you should respect it. I don't really like metal but I can respect it for what it is.

Respect it? What exactly about rap should I respect? I'm not saying I hate it or anything, I do listen to a few rap songs every now and then, but the majority of it just annoys me.

Um...

Also Rap is stupid now, It's all about how rich they aresmokingsbad

This randomly showed up on my recommended for you just now on youtube, since I'm lazy I'll post it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pqiqrnZE44&feature=rec-fresh

[QUOTE="Greatgone12"]

You argue that rap is "where it at now," but you can't even make a list of good rappers to support your argument.

A_Milli

What you talkin about look at my sig8) The TC knows what he's talkin about;)

[QUOTE="JackMcSexbeard"]

[QUOTE="DarkPrinceXC"]So.....I don't like rap. Does that mean I'm wrong? Just curious. :)DarkPrinceXC

No but you should respect it. I don't really like metal but I can respect it for what it is.

Respect it? What exactly about rap should I respect? I'm not saying I hate it or anything, I do listen to a few rap songs every now and then, but the majority of it just annoys me.

Well without getting too far into it... Violence, Disrespecting women, Drugs and gang culture has nothing to with rap or hip-hop. Yes many rappers support these ideals but (except for a small handfull) they tend to be corporate owned and created images to sell to people. They exist to market and are shallow and meaningless. I love rap and so I hate those rappers.

On the otherhand there are so many rappers who have something very important to say weither it's Grandmaster Flash's The Message or Blackstarr talking about the self-destructive existence in so many black neighborhoods. It could be Black Sheep rapping about the choice we have to either dedicate ourselves to our passions of music or to delve into drugs. Musically we could talk about the ingenious beats created by DJ Shadow, the creativley used samples by Danger Mouse or the Jazzy riffs of The Roots or A Tribe Called Quest.

Look I guess what im trying to say is that rap is part of an innercity culture which is hip-hop. Hip-hop encompasses rap music, Graffiti art, Breakdancing and Dj'ing. No Violence, no Drugs, no degredation of women. Its meant as a tool to both promote a fun atmosphere, to literal musical poetry. If one doesn't like the music thats fine, but I just want to get across that there is a difference between to commercialized, commodified rap we see and what most rap fans coinsider "real" rap. You rarely see most rap fans support rappers like Young Jeezy or Lil Flip but you always hear them support artists like Talib Kwali, Brother Ali, Common, Dead Prez, Atmosphere, De La Soul etc...

[QUOTE="DarkPrinceXC"][QUOTE="JackMcSexbeard"]

[QUOTE="DarkPrinceXC"]So.....I don't like rap. Does that mean I'm wrong? Just curious. :)JackMcSexbeard

No but you should respect it. I don't really like metal but I can respect it for what it is.

Respect it? What exactly about rap should I respect? I'm not saying I hate it or anything, I do listen to a few rap songs every now and then, but the majority of it just annoys me.

Well without getting too far into it... Violence, Disrespecting women, Drugs and gang culture has nothing to with rap or hip-hop. Yes many rappers support these ideals but (except for a small handfull) they tend to be corporate owned and created images to sell to people. They exist to market and are shallow and meaningless. I love rap and so I hate those rappers.

On the otherhand there are so many rappers who have something very important to say weither it's Grandmaster Flash's The Message or Blackstarr talking about the self-destructive existence in so many black neighborhoods. It could be Black Sheep rapping about the choice we have to either dedicate ourselves to our passions of music or to delve into drugs. Musically we could talk about the ingenious beats created by DJ Shadow, the creativley used samples by Danger Mouse or the Jazzy riffs of The Roots or A Tribe Called Quest.

Look I guess what im trying to say is that rap is part of an innercity culture which is hip-hop. Hip-hop encompasses rap music, Graffiti art, Breakdancing and Dj'ing. No Violence, no Drugs, no degredation of women. Its meant as a tool to both promote a fun atmosphere, to literal musical poetry. If one doesn't like the music thats fine, but I just want to get across that there is a difference between to commercialized, commodified rap we see and what most rap fans coinsider "real" rap. You rarely see most rap fans support rappers like Young Jeezy or Lil Flip but you always hear them support artists like Talib Kwali, Brother Ali, Common, Dead Prez, Atmosphere, De La Soul etc...

Now see, there's an argument that I'll actually listen to. I'll definitely check out some of those rappers you listed. I wasn't trying to bash rap or anything, I was just interested. ;)

Please, use the search button for an old topic from Raged Soulja, or whater his name is and find some good rappers. :P

De La Soul, Common, Tribe Called Quest, Nas and more are much better than anything comming out now, without violence and women in all their songs.

Everyone knows Rap died when Tupac left. Well IMO Jay Z was oksmokingsbad

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[QUOTE="JackMcSexbeard"][QUOTE="DarkPrinceXC"][QUOTE="JackMcSexbeard"]

[QUOTE="DarkPrinceXC"]So.....I don't like rap. Does that mean I'm wrong? Just curious. :)DarkPrinceXC

No but you should respect it. I don't really like metal but I can respect it for what it is.

Respect it? What exactly about rap should I respect? I'm not saying I hate it or anything, I do listen to a few rap songs every now and then, but the majority of it just annoys me.

Well without getting too far into it... Violence, Disrespecting women, Drugs and gang culture has nothing to with rap or hip-hop. Yes many rappers support these ideals but (except for a small handfull) they tend to be corporate owned and created images to sell to people. They exist to market and are shallow and meaningless. I love rap and so I hate those rappers.

On the otherhand there are so many rappers who have something very important to say weither it's Grandmaster Flash's The Message or Blackstarr talking about the self-destructive existence in so many black neighborhoods. It could be Black Sheep rapping about the choice we have to either dedicate ourselves to our passions of music or to delve into drugs. Musically we could talk about the ingenious beats created by DJ Shadow, the creativley used samples by Danger Mouse or the Jazzy riffs of The Roots or A Tribe Called Quest.

Look I guess what im trying to say is that rap is part of an innercity culture which is hip-hop. Hip-hop encompasses rap music, Graffiti art, Breakdancing and Dj'ing. No Violence, no Drugs, no degredation of women. Its meant as a tool to both promote a fun atmosphere, to literal musical poetry. If one doesn't like the music thats fine, but I just want to get across that there is a difference between to commercialized, commodified rap we see and what most rap fans coinsider "real" rap. You rarely see most rap fans support rappers like Young Jeezy or Lil Flip but you always hear them support artists like Talib Kwali, Brother Ali, Common, Dead Prez, Atmosphere, De La Soul etc...

Now see, there's an argument that I'll actually listen to. I'll definitely check out some of those rappers you listed. I wasn't trying to bash rap or anything, I was just interested. ;)

Awesome, if you don't like it then you don't like but I really respect anyone who can at least give it a shot. The artists I listed are a small sample ranging from very positive songs about positives subjects to fairly politically radical call's to action.

I just wanted to point out that yes there is alot of bad rap, but there's just as much good rap under the surface and if you give it a shot you'll be all the better for it. I used to hate that really hardcore metal with the guteral sounds until a kid in a music class did a very articulate project on it and I learned quite a bit. I still don't really care for it but it's something i've learned to understand better and respect and understand the appeal.

Anyway Here are some fairly different and probably easy to get into songs you may want to check out.

Blacalicious---

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-dJ6xbrWHQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1A0BmbiM53Q&feature=related

Aesop Rock---

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1u43KDiWD0

EL-P----

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dBqGINeDvg

Sage Francis-----

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VL0mB8ILeo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtNMly0aDUk&feature=related

Brother Ali----

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OO18F4aKGzQ

Not to mention any Wu-Tang, Roots, Mos Def, Bone Thugs an Harmony, NWA, Public Enemy etc..

Everyone knows Rap died when Tupac left. Well IMO Jay Z was oksmokingsbad

Tupac didn't have a good message behind his music either. He cost himself his own life by trying to be hood and gangsta even though he made it out of the hood. You can't go from one song talking about how hard you had it and finally made it and then claming your are STILL a G. People here just have double standards for who they like.

Lil Wayne, Kanye West, Young Jeezy, Ludacris, T.I. and T-Pain rule the music world now. No one wants that silly screamo and growling. Classic Rock will always live on but rap is the future of musicxboxplayer1990

Unfortunatly, I'd have to agree. Those guys have so much money they just buy their popularity

Lil Wayne, Kanye West, Young Jeezy, Ludacris, T.I. and T-Pain rule the music world now. No one wants that silly screamo and growling. Classic Rock will always live on but rap is the future of musicxboxplayer1990

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I only like rap when it is accompanied by awesome guitar. Like Rage Against The Machine and some System of a Down (well I guess System guitar isn't awesome but it's still good).CreepingDeath_

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definitely check this out, you might like it

Lil Wayne, Kanye West, Young Jeezy, Ludacris, T.I. and T-Pain rule the music world now. No one wants that silly screamo and growling. Classic Rock will always live on but rap is the future of musicxboxplayer1990

Your rap is definitely not where it's at, in my opinion of course. What you call rap I call pop garbage, but hey, that's me. Don't get me wrong I like several rap and hip-hop artists. Just not mindless MTV crap. I enjoy a wide array of music including hip-hop and various forms of metal... classic rock, not really my thing.

[QUOTE="xboxplayer1990"]Lil Wayne, Kanye West, Young Jeezy, Ludacris, T.I. and T-Pain rule the music world now. No one wants that silly screamo and growling. Classic Rock will always live on but rap is the future of musicXDeSuEhTX

Your rap is definitely not where it's at, in my opinion of course. What you call rap I call pop garbage, but hey, that's me. Don't get me wrong I like several rap and hip-hop artists. Just not mindless MTV crap. I enjoy a wide array of music including hip-hop and various forms of metal... classic rock, not really my thing.

Then you lack good taste in music my friend.

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[QUOTE="xboxplayer1990"]Lil Wayne, Kanye West, Young Jeezy, Ludacris, T.I. and T-Pain rule the music world now. No one wants that silly screamo and growling. Classic Rock will always live on but rap is the future of musicxboxplayer1990

Your rap is definitely not where it's at, in my opinion of course. What you call rap I call pop garbage, but hey, that's me. Don't get me wrong I like several rap and hip-hop artists. Just not mindless MTV crap. I enjoy a wide array of music including hip-hop and various forms of metal... classic rock, not really my thing.

Then you lack good taste in music my friend.

If trendy music is good taste, I suppose I don't.

"verse 2, this is verse 2, ill murk u, like i murk you

This is verse 2, it is worse too, I'll murk you, like I birth you."

Quite possibly the worst lyrics ever there from the one and only Lil Wayne, how you can mention his name along side the names Jay-Z, T.I or Kanye makes me feel ill :o

"verse 2, this is verse 2, ill murk u, like i murk you

This is verse 2, it is worse too, I'll murk you, like I birth you."

Quite possibly the worst lyrics ever there from the one and only Lil Wayne, how you can mention his name along side the names Jay-Z, T.I or Kanye makes me feel ill :o

daftdog

Lil Wayne is deep man. Not everyone can truly appreciate his masterful lyrics.

[QUOTE="xboxplayer1990"]Lil Wayne, Kanye West, Young Jeezy, Ludacris, T.I. and T-Pain rule the music world now. No one wants that silly screamo and growling. Classic Rock will always live on but rap is the future of musicWSP87

Lil wayne is over hyped and he is terrible, Kanye West is a whiny punk, Young Jeezy is average at best, Ludacris hasn't had a good song since blueberry yum yum, T.I... Seriously? T.I.? And T-Pain is just another rapper in a world of rappers who are here and then vanish into the night with there handfull of "hits".

Rap as it is today is probably the worst thing that could have happened to music. It's trashy and disrespectful and I can't believe people fall into this garbage.

And this is a bad thing. Why is someone made by a vocoder making money, when bands and even other rappers with real talent arent'? RushMetallica

Please, you people who listen to this terrible, mundane, repetitive sh**, research into some real rap from the 90's and 80's and listen to some real music. Mainstream rap/hip-hop is the worst branch of the music industry at the moment and has been for quite a number of years. It's music for idiots, especially those running around the streets trying to be what they hear in the "songs" these apparent "artists" make.

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[QUOTE="xboxplayer1990"]Lil Wayne, Kanye West, Young Jeezy, Ludacris, T.I. and T-Pain rule the music world now. No one wants that silly screamo and growling. Classic Rock will always live on but rap is the future of musicGarforth

Lil wayne is over hyped and he is terrible, Kanye West is a whiny punk, Young Jeezy is average at best, Ludacris hasn't had a good song since blueberry yum yum, T.I... Seriously? T.I.? And T-Pain is just another rapper in a world of rappers who are here and then vanish into the night with there handfull of "hits".

Rap as it is today is probably the worst thing that could have happened to music. It's trashy and disrespectful and I can't believe people fall into this garbage.

And this is a bad thing. Why is someone made by a vocoder making money, when bands and even other rappers with real talent arent'? RushMetallica

Please, you people who listen to this terrible, mundane, repetitive sh**, research into some real rap from the 90's and 80's and listen to some real music. Mainstream rap/hip-hop is the worst branch of the music industry at the moment and has been for quite a number of years. It's music for idiots, especially those running around the streets trying to be what they hear in the "songs" these apparent "artists" make.

True, but why are you attaacking these guys, they were attacking mainstream hip-hop?

And the TC might be a troll...

Lil Wayne, Kanye West, Young Jeezy, Ludacris, T.I. and T-Pain rule the music world now. No one wants that silly screamo and growling. Classic Rock will always live on but rap is the future of musicxboxplayer1990

those rappers are all crap and shallow, seriously how could you forget; hilltop hoods, funkoars, bliss n eso, drapht, spit syndicate, terra firma, boltz, vents, pegz, muph n plutonic, the herd and tzu... serious, how could you !?!

and thats just off the top of my head...

but on a serious note what about all other genres of music? pop never seems to die and what about the hardcore scenes?

but i do agree that some hip-hop is very progressive... it is really down to personal prefference though.

Dear lord, the ignorance in this thread is astronomical.

While rap is definitely the focal point of mainstream music it's not "where it's at" for a lot of people (like me) who prefer metal and have zero to limited interest in rap. You need to understand that people have different tastes.

Hip is where its at. I like and will continue to like it. You just need to find the right musician that suits you

todays rap scene sucks what are you smoking? im what you call old school fan and now a days rap is just club garbage. if you want real rap read the following albums to but

ice cube- lethal injection

wu-tang-clan - 36 chambers

notorious b.i.g - ready 2 die

2pac- all eyez on me

bone thugs n harmony - est.1999

eazy -e - eazy duz it

nas - illmatic

dr.dre chronic and chronic 2001

snoop dogg doggy style

Lil' Wayne made a cameo at the Roots show last night :) lol at ?uestlove saying "A Milli" about a million times in a row live. Rap owns.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NHEdXnLNyI

[QUOTE="harashawn"][QUOTE="xboxplayer1990"]

Well judging from your name "RushMetallica" you have bad taste in music anyway. It's all about club music and slow jams man.

Dnadolny

It's all about opinions.

What's wrong with Rush?:|

Well, judging by his list, he is clearly afraid of talented musicians.

MF Doom, Kanye West, Common, Rakim, Immortal Technique. and Mos Def rule the music world now. No one wants that silly screamo and growling. Classic Rock will always live on but rap is the future of musicxboxplayer1990

*fix'd 8)

if people are saying rap takes no talent,

th en you can say screamo and growling takes no talent either

all yuo do is learn a few chords and strum them supper fast while you get your friend with no ball sack to sing

metal is a different story, i am a fan of both rap and metal but never any of that emo nonsense

[QUOTE="smokingsbad"]Everyone knows Rap died when Tupac left. Well IMO Jay Z was okxboxplayer1990

Tupac didn't have a good message behind his music either. He cost himself his own life by trying to be hood and gangsta even though he made it out of the hood. You can't go from one song talking about how hard you had it and finally made it and then claming your are STILL a G. People here just have double standards for who they like.

your an idiot.. quit talking... 2pac is still an icon name one other rap artist that made the same best selling album chart and ranked number 50 under elvis wile elvis was 30 in the charts.

if you think today is real hiphop then you need help cause man todays scene is bs

but i also have to admit, you did not really post any really good rappers besides kanye west, luda, and lil wayne, other than that lil jeezy sucks, and all t pain does is stupid club theme songs

rap doesnt have heart liek it use too, its one thing to include songs about dancing with the booty all up in your face, but not for every track,

the games new cd is also some what decent