Same Sex Marriage Controversial

I'm for it, people against it are so ignorant.

lex_in_the_moon

I don't think he has seen the epic arguments I have had on why I oppose Gay Marriage :PSnipes_2

Please share.

I'd rather not get too involved with it again, but I am morally opposed to same sex marriage. If you claim to be christian, and you support it, then you are not christian.

Darkainious

Oh hia, Jesus, hadn't realized you were back so soon.

[QUOTE="lex_in_the_moon"]

I'm for it, people against it are so ignorant.

Darkainious

It can't cause problems, legalizing it can only result in equal treatment of couples under the law. If a church doesn't want to marry gay couples then fine, but there is no decent reason that belief should be supported by U.S. law.

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"]I don't think he has seen the epic arguments I have had on why I oppose Gay Marriage :PLikeHaterade

Please share.

Look at any other thread on Gay Marriage. Snipes_2

Too much trouble. Thanks anyways.

[QUOTE="Darkainious"][QUOTE="lex_in_the_moon"]

I'm for it, people against it are so ignorant.

theone86

It can't cause problems, legalizing it can only result in equal treatment of couples under the law. If a church doesn't want to marry gay couples then fine, but there is no decent reason that belief should be supported by U.S. law.

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"]Look at any other thread on Gay Marriage. LikeHaterade

Too much trouble. Thanks anyways.

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"]Look at any other thread on Gay Marriage. LikeHaterade

Too much trouble. Thanks anyways.

[QUOTE="theone86"]

[QUOTE="Darkainious"] Just what are we ignorant of? The problems it can cause? Darkainious

It can't cause problems, legalizing it can only result in equal treatment of couples under the law. If a church doesn't want to marry gay couples then fine, but there is no decent reason that belief should be supported by U.S. law.

Mind showing us those articles?

[QUOTE="theone86"]

[QUOTE="Darkainious"] Just what are we ignorant of? The problems it can cause? Darkainious

It can't cause problems, legalizing it can only result in equal treatment of couples under the law. If a church doesn't want to marry gay couples then fine, but there is no decent reason that belief should be supported by U.S. law.

Articles published by whom?

Are their claims based on correlation?

Also, rich, white, protestant, males are more likely to commit suicide than any other demographic, does that mean we should stop people from being rich and protestant?

Furthermore, the reason these groups were so high in suicide rates was deemed to be their isolation, if there is a causitive effect of having gay parents and suicide wouldn't it make sense that the cause of that might be the isolation they face as pariahs for having gay parents? Perhaps we should attack the unfair stigmas instead of the innocent people who are just trying to give children good homes.

[QUOTE="LikeHaterade"]

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"]Look at any other thread on Gay Marriage. Darkainious

Too much trouble. Thanks anyways.

You are definitely going to need this:

Inb4 Bible Bashing God is Teh Eviiilz!!

I'm not claiming that it will cause problems 100% of the time but I there are numerous articles about how children with same sex parents are more likely to commit suicide, and to have drug problems.Darkainious

And the children that commit suicide with a mother and a father? If we eliminate same-sex marriage for that reason, then eliminate all marriage along with it.

[QUOTE="lex_in_the_moon"]

I'm for it, people against it are so ignorant.

chathuranga

[QUOTE="LikeHaterade"]

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"]Look at any other thread on Gay Marriage. Darkainious

Too much trouble. Thanks anyways.

The Bible says no to gay marriage? Do you have a scripture?

[QUOTE="chathuranga"][QUOTE="lex_in_the_moon"]

I'm for it, people against it are so ignorant.

PerfectCircles

[QUOTE="theone86"]

[QUOTE="Darkainious"] Just what are we ignorant of? The problems it can cause? Darkainious

It can't cause problems, legalizing it can only result in equal treatment of couples under the law. If a church doesn't want to marry gay couples then fine, but there is no decent reason that belief should be supported by U.S. law.

Let them get married

[QUOTE="Darkainious"][QUOTE="LikeHaterade"]

Too much trouble. Thanks anyways.

LikeHaterade

The Bible says no to gay marriage? Do you have a scripture?

[QUOTE="Darkainious"][QUOTE="LikeHaterade"]

Too much trouble. Thanks anyways.

LikeHaterade

The Bible says no to gay marriage? Do you have a scripture?

[QUOTE="PerfectCircles"][QUOTE="chathuranga"] Calling people who are against it ignorant is unnecessary. I oppose it but you don't see me claiming that people who support gay marriage are ignorant. Snipes_2

Or Bible basher?

There's a difference between an opinion and a substantiated fact. An opinion is that legalizing gay marriage will cause young people to be gay a substantiated fact is that gay people are already gay and the legality of marriage won't change that. There's also a difference between throwing outaccusations and having a substantiated opinion. An example of throwing out accusations would be saying that anyone who doesn't agree with you is a Bible-basher, a substantiated opinion would be saying that people who think gay marriage should be illegal because of their own personal opinion, and in spite ofsubstantiated facts to the contrary, are ignorant is a substantiated opinion based in logic, reason, and facts.

[QUOTE="LikeHaterade"]

[QUOTE="Darkainious"] It says no in the bible, some studies suggest it can cause problems for the children, and its disgusting. Darkainious

The Bible says no to gay marriage? Do you have a scripture?

Good, when America becomes a Christian theocracy you can outlaw gay marriage citing those verses, but right now we guarantee all men equal treatment under the law regardless of creed, so the Bible means squat in terms of legality.

[QUOTE="LikeHaterade"]

[QUOTE="Darkainious"] It says no in the bible, some studies suggest it can cause problems for the children, and its disgusting. Darkainious

The Bible says no to gay marriage? Do you have a scripture?

Oh LikeHaterade :P You know what they mean. Same sex relations(or behaviour similar to it) is called an 'abomination' in the Bible, in numerous areas. Even though, you know, Abomination is a modern word assigned to describe numerous acts when they had 'issues' making a proper translation and didn't have the tools to look at the contextual issues at the time. But hey, it says it's an abomination NOW, so it must be true.Lockedge

Just saying... Marriage and sex aren't mutually exclusive. :P

[QUOTE="Darkainious"][QUOTE="theone86"]

It can't cause problems, legalizing it can only result in equal treatment of couples under the law. If a church doesn't want to marry gay couples then fine, but there is no decent reason that belief should be supported by U.S. law.

PerfectCircles

[QUOTE="PerfectCircles"]

[QUOTE="Darkainious"] I'm not claiming that it will cause problems 100% of the time but I there are numerous articles about how children with same sex parents are more likely to commit suicide, and to have drug problems.Darkainious

Lol, let me see. :) Lev 18:22-23 "You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination." Lev 20:13 "If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death." 1 Cor 6:9 "Or do you not know that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals" 1 Tim 1:9-10 "realizing the fact that (civil) law is not made for a righteous man, but for those who are lawless and rebellious, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and profane, for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers and immoral men and homosexuals and kidnappers and liars and perjurers" Rom 1:26-27 "For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error."Darkainious

What translation is that?

[QUOTE="Darkainious"][QUOTE="LikeHaterade"]

The Bible says no to gay marriage? Do you have a scripture?

PerfectCircles

[QUOTE="LikeHaterade"]

[QUOTE="Darkainious"] It says no in the bible, some studies suggest it can cause problems for the children, and its disgusting. Darkainious

The Bible says no to gay marriage? Do you have a scripture?

[QUOTE="Lockedge"]Oh LikeHaterade :P You know what they mean. Same sex relations(or behaviour similar to it) is called an 'abomination' in the Bible, in numerous areas. Even though, you know, Abomination is a modern word assigned to describe numerous acts when they had 'issues' making a proper translation and didn't have the tools to look at the contextual issues at the time. But hey, it says it's an abomination NOW, so it must be true.LikeHaterade

Just saying... Marriage and sex aren't mutually exclusive. :P

Mmm. The status of marriage doesn't involve itself in which sexual organ each partner has where I live (Canada yay!). Proof it doesn't matter, and it doesn't harm. :)

[QUOTE="PerfectCircles"][QUOTE="Darkainious"] Lol, let me see. :) Lev 18:22-23 "You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination." Lev 20:13 "If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death." 1 Cor 6:9 "Or do you not know that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals" 1 Tim 1:9-10 "realizing the fact that (civil) law is not made for a righteous man, but for those who are lawless and rebellious, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and profane, for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers and immoral men and homosexuals and kidnappers and liars and perjurers" Rom 1:26-27 "For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error."Darkainious

Or you might want to respect that little thing we have called freedom of religion and seperation of church and state, you know, the one that was created in part because of the institutional discrimination certain Christian sects were responding to by coming to this continent from Europe in the first place.

If you are christian, you might want to change US law because of what the bible says.

Darkainious

So you believe in stoning disobedient children?

[QUOTE="Darkainious"]

[QUOTE="PerfectCircles"] I call bull**** on that one. I've read many articles that say the exact opposite, they said if anything the child grows up being more tolerant. *edit* wait I remember you, your going to talk about how your sister works in some rehab place for girls and the majority of the girls come from same sex household :roll:

PerfectCircles

[QUOTE="Darkainious"]

[QUOTE="PerfectCircles"] I call bull**** on that one. I've read many articles that say the exact opposite, they said if anything the child grows up being more tolerant. *edit* wait I remember you, your going to talk about how your sister works in some rehab place for girls and the majority of the girls come from same sex household :roll:

PerfectCircles

"wrote Steve Baldwin"

I stopped reading there.

[QUOTE="Darkainious"]

If you are christian, you might want to change US law because of what the bible says.

LikeHaterade

So you believe in stoning disobedient children?

Mmm. The status of marriage doesn't involve itself in which sexual organ each partner has where I live (Canada yay!). Proof it doesn't matter, and it doesn't harm. :)

Lockedge

Lucky. :(

I think we're(the US) starting to come around though. :)

[QUOTE="Darkainious"]Lol, let me see. :) Lev 18:22-23 "You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination." Lev 20:13 "If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death." 1 Cor 6:9 "Or do you not know that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals" 1 Tim 1:9-10 "realizing the fact that (civil) law is not made for a righteous man, but for those who are lawless and rebellious, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and profane, for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers and immoral men and homosexuals and kidnappers and liars and perjurers" Rom 1:26-27 "For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error."LikeHaterade

What translation is that?

A modern one. Homosexual is a modern word, so this is probably the NIV or some form of it.

[QUOTE="PerfectCircles"][QUOTE="Darkainious"] Lol, let me see. :) Lev 18:22-23 "You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination." Lev 20:13 "If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death." 1 Cor 6:9 "Or do you not know that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals" 1 Tim 1:9-10 "realizing the fact that (civil) law is not made for a righteous man, but for those who are lawless and rebellious, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and profane, for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers and immoral men and homosexuals and kidnappers and liars and perjurers" Rom 1:26-27 "For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error."Darkainious

A modern one. Homosexual is a modern word, so this is probably the NIV or some form of it.

Lockedge

Yea, that's what I was thinking.

[QUOTE="PerfectCircles"]

[QUOTE="Darkainious"] I'm not claiming that it will cause problems 100% of the time but I there are numerous articles about how children with same sex parents are more likely to commit suicide, and to have drug problems.Darkainious

I support equality and all that jazz.

Sigh_han

Equality? In America? Bah, unheard of.

[QUOTE="Sigh_han"]

I support equality and all that jazz.

theone86

Equality? In America? Bah, unheard of.

Of course there's equality!!!*

*only if you're Christian

[QUOTE="LikeHaterade"]

[QUOTE="Darkainious"]

If you are christian, you might want to change US law because of what the bible says.

Darkainious

So you believe in stoning disobedient children?

Probably not the translation that you're sharing.

Absolutely not. Homosexuality should be discouraged

Don't give into the homosexual agenda! If we allow gay marriage, our entire society will be even more degraded. Gay marriage is an oxymoron, everyone knows that marriage is between a man and a woman

I'm glad Prop 8 is on the road to being repealed. I've got a friend who got married during the brief window between when gay marriage was legalized an Prop 8 passed.PannicAtack