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#151 Darkainious
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[QUOTE="XD4NTESINF3RNOX"][QUOTE="Syk0_k03r"] the agenda of degrading our societyPannicAtack
Please tell us how it will degrade society

I have far worse things I could mention as far as the degradation of society. LGBT people just want equality and acceptance.

So do people who practice polygamy :|

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#152 T_P_O
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[QUOTE="Syk0_k03r"][QUOTE="PannicAtack"][QUOTE="Syk0_k03r"] wont help, you can't forget the truth

Here's truth: People in the LGBT movement face an astounding amount of hardships specifically due to attitudes like that, ranging from social pressure to discrimination to violence.

Looks like it's proven then... God hates gays

So much for omnibenevolence.
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#155 Rougehunter
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[QUOTE="Syk0_k03r"][QUOTE="PannicAtack"] I asked you - what is the "homosexual agenda?"Rougehunter

the agenda of degrading our society

How are gays degrading our society when you are trying the oppress them and treat them like lesser citizens?

Still waiting for a reply;)

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#156 PannicAtack
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[QUOTE="PannicAtack"]

[QUOTE="Darkainious"]

Here is something to consider. The main argument I have heard in favor of same sex marriage is equality, and that it won't be hurting me, so why should I care? What if a man wanted to marry two wives? Whats wrong with that if they are all ok with it? Is it going to hurt you? What if he wanted to marry his dog? Or his statue of Buddha? Would you equality people be ok with all that? By opening the door to changing the definition of marriage, people are going to want to do some of this stuff.

Darkainious

Your polygamy example is flawed, as virtually every instance of polygamy observed in the united states has been legitimately harmful.

Your "marrying a dog" or a "statue of Buddha" example doesn't hold up, either, as neither of those have legal standing or the ability to sign a marriage contract.

If we change marriage then you could get rid of contracts. Just watch. Someone will want to marry an animal. More importantly you say polygamy is harmful, yet you deny same sex marriage is, which by being legalized is a change to the definition of marriage just like legalizing polygamy would be.

As far as contracts go, I'm afraid that you're pulling speculation based on nothing more than a slippery slope fallacy. Also, how is same-sex marriage harmful? Who does it harm? Gonna pull something else from WND or another right-wing think-tank?
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#157 Darkainious
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[QUOTE="XD4NTESINF3RNOX"][QUOTE="Syk0_k03r"][QUOTE="PannicAtack"] Here's truth: People in the LGBT movement face an astounding amount of hardships specifically due to attitudes like that, ranging from social pressure to discrimination to violence.

Looks like it's proven then... God hates gays

Looks like it's proven then....God hates idiots

God doesn't hate anyone!!!
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[QUOTE="Syk0_k03r"][QUOTE="PannicAtack"][QUOTE="XD4NTESINF3RNOX"] Please tell us how it will degrade society

I have far worse things I could mention as far as the degradation of society. LGBT people just want equality and acceptance.

using that logic, we might as well give terrorists equality and acceptance. both are an abomination, and both want to suck us dry. knowing you liberals, I wouldn't be surprised if you gave terrorists equality and acceptance

... Did you just equated homosexuality with terrorism?
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#159 LikeHaterade
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If we change marriage then you could get rid of contracts. Just watch. Someone will want to marry an animal. More importantly you say polygamy is harmful, yet you deny same sex marriage is, which by being legalized is a change to the definition of marriage just like legalizing polygamy would be.Darkainious

Ignoring posts I see. That isn't a legitimate example, since dogs aren't consenting human adults...

Polygamy just has a bad rep, kind of like Catholic priests. Not every Catholic priest is a pedophile, and not every polygamist would be either.

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#160 PerfectCircles
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[QUOTE="Syk0_k03r"][QUOTE="PannicAtack"][QUOTE="Syk0_k03r"] wont help, you can't forget the truth

Here's truth: People in the LGBT movement face an astounding amount of hardships specifically due to attitudes like that, ranging from social pressure to discrimination to violence.

Looks like it's proven then... God hates gays

I was under the impression God hated no one, but its ok keep spewing your hate it just helps the people on the fence about gay marriage realize which side is more reasonable.
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[QUOTE="XD4NTESINF3RNOX"][QUOTE="Syk0_k03r"] Looks like it's proven then... God hates gaysDarkainious
Looks like it's proven then....God hates idiots

God doesn't hate anyone!!!

Then why is same-sex marriage an issue?

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#162 Darkainious
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[QUOTE="Darkainious"][QUOTE="PannicAtack"]Your polygamy example is flawed, as virtually every instance of polygamy observed in the united states has been legitimately harmful.

Your "marrying a dog" or a "statue of Buddha" example doesn't hold up, either, as neither of those have legal standing or the ability to sign a marriage contract.

PannicAtack

If we change marriage then you could get rid of contracts. Just watch. Someone will want to marry an animal. More importantly you say polygamy is harmful, yet you deny same sex marriage is, which by being legalized is a change to the definition of marriage just like legalizing polygamy would be.

As far as contracts go, I'm afraid that you're pulling speculation based on nothing more than a slippery slope fallacy. Also, how is same-sex marriage harmful? Who does it harm? Gonna pull something else from WND or another right-wing think-tank?

Whats the other option? A left wing think tank? Oh wait, they wouldn't state fact about gay marriage because they support gays, and think they want them to have equal rights :cry: why is the world so cruel to homosexuals?

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#163 Syk0_k03r
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[QUOTE="Rougehunter"]

[QUOTE="Syk0_k03r"] the agenda of degrading our societyRougehunter

How are gays degrading our society when you are trying the oppress them and treat them like lesser citizens?

Still waiting for a reply;)

Because it is written in the bible, and EVERY HOLY BOOK, that homosexuality is an abomination. Plus common sense... That if a man is sexually attracted to another man, something is VERY WRONG
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#164 Darkainious
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[QUOTE="Darkainious"][QUOTE="XD4NTESINF3RNOX"] Looks like it's proven then....God hates idiots THE_DRUGGIE

God doesn't hate anyone!!!

Then why is same-sex marriage an issue?

Imagine a loving parent, who is willing to give you another chance if you do something bad.
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#165 XD4NTESINF3RNOX
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[QUOTE="Syk0_k03r"][QUOTE="PannicAtack"][QUOTE="XD4NTESINF3RNOX"] Please tell us how it will degrade society

I have far worse things I could mention as far as the degradation of society. LGBT people just want equality and acceptance.

using that logic, we might as well give terrorists equality and acceptance. both are an abomination, and both want to suck us dry. knowing you liberals, I wouldn't be surprised if you gave terrorists equality and acceptance

lol just shut up please you are a sad man just go back under your rock
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#166 PerfectCircles
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[QUOTE="PerfectCircles"][QUOTE="PeaceChild90"]

:lol: me too!

Darkainious

Well in my defense I had throughly convinced myself that all straight guys were attracted to other guys they just didn't talk about it :P

I just threw up in my mouth lol

Looking back on how I used to act embarrasses me too. I'm sure some day you will experience a similar feeling when you realize what a judgmental and hateful person you were to people who held different beliefs than you.

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#169 THE_DRUGGIE
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[QUOTE="THE_DRUGGIE"]

[QUOTE="Darkainious"] God doesn't hate anyone!!!Darkainious

Then why is same-sex marriage an issue?

Imagine a loving parent, who is willing to give you another chance if you do something bad.

Why does same-sex marriage fall under the "bad" category? :?

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#170 PerfectCircles
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[QUOTE="Rougehunter"]

[QUOTE="Rougehunter"]How are gays degrading our society when you are trying the oppress them and treat them like lesser citizens?

Syk0_k03r

Still waiting for a reply;)

Because it is written in the bible, and EVERY HOLY BOOK, that homosexuality is an abomination. Plus common sense... That if a man is sexually attracted to another man, something is VERY WRONG

Or oh so right :)
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#171 rockguy92
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I'd rather not get too involved with it again, but I am morally opposed to same sex marriage. If you claim to be christian, and you support it, then you are not christian.

Darkainious
/facepalm Anyways, always supported it.
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#172 theone86
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[QUOTE="PannicAtack"]

[QUOTE="Darkainious"]

Here is something to consider. The main argument I have heard in favor of same sex marriage is equality, and that it won't be hurting me, so why should I care? What if a man wanted to marry two wives? Whats wrong with that if they are all ok with it? Is it going to hurt you? What if he wanted to marry his dog? Or his statue of Buddha? Would you equality people be ok with all that? By opening the door to changing the definition of marriage, people are going to want to do some of this stuff.

Darkainious

Your polygamy example is flawed, as virtually every instance of polygamy observed in the united states has been legitimately harmful.

Your "marrying a dog" or a "statue of Buddha" example doesn't hold up, either, as neither of those have legal standing or the ability to sign a marriage contract.

If we change marriage then you could get rid of contracts. Just watch. Someone will want to marry an animal. More importantly you say polygamy is harmful, yet you deny same sex marriage is, which by being legalized is a change to the definition of marriage just like legalizing polygamy would be.

Polygamy is harmful because those men typically convince minors to marry them and then abuse them, if there were laws against marrying minors in polygamist marriages despite parental consent there would be no problem, at least no problem the participants don't bring on themselves.

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[QUOTE="Rougehunter"]

[QUOTE="Rougehunter"]How are gays degrading our society when you are trying the oppress them and treat them like lesser citizens?

Syk0_k03r

Still waiting for a reply;)

Because it is written in the bible, and EVERY HOLY BOOK, that homosexuality is an abomination. Plus common sense... That if a man is sexually attracted to another man, something is VERY WRONG

Hateful bigots like you are an abomination. If Jesus did exist he would most likely think that your are a disgrace to his ideas and beliefs because he would be a person of respect and tolerance and not hate and bigotry. Christianity is a religion of love and respect right?

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#174 XD4NTESINF3RNOX
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[QUOTE="Syk0_k03r"][QUOTE="PannicAtack"][QUOTE="Syk0_k03r"] using that logic, we might as well give terrorists equality and acceptance. both are an abomination, and both want to suck us dry. knowing you liberals, I wouldn't be surprised if you gave terrorists equality and acceptance

... Did you just equated homosexuality with terrorism?

Why not? Both cause damage to our society... and both are LOVED by the hypocritical left

Dumb asses like you also cause harm to our society. Peace out.
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#175 Darkainious
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[QUOTE="Darkainious"][QUOTE="THE_DRUGGIE"]

Then why is same-sex marriage an issue?

THE_DRUGGIE

Imagine a loving parent, who is willing to give you another chance if you do something bad.

Why does same-sex marriage falls under the "bad" category? :?

did you miss all the bible scriptures? God does not approve
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#176 Lockedge
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[QUOTE="Lockedge"]I'm going to say Darkainious has a point here. People don't care what's legal or not, they likely have no idea about 1/128th of the laws on the books in their state. They don't care about the constitution a whole lot, except making blanket statements that it has to be protected, at least the parts they care about. People aren't often guided by their heads, they use their hearts and their morals. LikeHaterade

Sure, but it doesn't help his argument against gay marriage. It just shows that a lot of our registered voters don't understand some of the core principals of their country. :P

Oh for sure it doesn't make any statement on whether SSM is good/bad, but it does show the legitimacy of the popular vote. People will vote how they will vote. No one votes minor parties because they don't feel it will make a difference. Etc. There are a lot of reasons why popular vote...while a legal route to take to legalize something/make something illegal, it is a route which has been reduced to shambles and no longer signifies justice, honour, etc.....hell, it usually just reflects what they're told by the media.
Here's truth: People in the LGBT community face an astounding amount of hardships specifically due to attitudes like that, ranging from social pressure to discrimination to violence. PannicAttack
This is a truth. I find it sickening that someone can say I have an "agenda" to degrade society. I go about my life in a rather solitary way. I don't push anything on anyone in person. I'm non-confrontational and polite in instances where it's required/suggested of me. I pay my dues and I keep my private life private. But if someone who doesn't like LGBT folk finds out about me, they can get in my face and tell me how I'm corrupting the nation, that I'm false and full of sin, going to hell, etc... and I'm lucky if they leave it at that...and they don't get reprimanded for their verbal diarrhea/assault. That isn't how people work in real life for the most part. They'll walk by and ignore it. And suddenly, I have to remind myself why I have to be careful about giving information out about myself, allowing physical slips in appearance, etc. and hole up in my home for a few weeks to hopefully ride out the problem. All over something I was born with and had no choice in the matter over.
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#177 PerfectCircles
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Geez, has OT always had these radical bigots that have no reasons for their hate towards another person? Or is this our bright future?dreDREb13
I like these bigots they don't ****foot around with their hatred they just come out and say it :P
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Geez, has OT always had these radical bigots that have no reasons for their hate towards another person? Or is this our bright future?dreDREb13

Both. Out with the old, in with the new.

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#179 Darkainious
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[QUOTE="XD4NTESINF3RNOX"][QUOTE="Syk0_k03r"][QUOTE="PannicAtack"] ... Did you just equated homosexuality with terrorism?

Why not? Both cause damage to our society... and both are LOVED by the hypocritical left

Dumb asses like you also cause harm to our society. Peace out.

I can has mod for you?
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[QUOTE="THE_DRUGGIE"]

[QUOTE="Darkainious"] Imagine a loving parent, who is willing to give you another chance if you do something bad. Darkainious

Why does same-sex marriage falls under the "bad" category? :?

did you miss all the bible scriptures? God does not approve

We don't all have the same god buddy.
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[QUOTE="THE_DRUGGIE"]

[QUOTE="Darkainious"] Imagine a loving parent, who is willing to give you another chance if you do something bad. Darkainious

Why does same-sex marriage falls under the "bad" category? :?

did you miss all the bible scriptures? God does not approve

That sounds pretty hateful to not approve of such a large (not to mention conceptually harmless) component of daily life.

Not to mention basing political action off of one religion is unfair to those who don't practice it.

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[QUOTE="Syk0_k03r"][QUOTE="PannicAtack"][QUOTE="Syk0_k03r"] using that logic, we might as well give terrorists equality and acceptance. both are an abomination, and both want to suck us dry. knowing you liberals, I wouldn't be surprised if you gave terrorists equality and acceptance

... Did you just equated homosexuality with terrorism?

Why not? Both cause damage to our society... and both are LOVED by the hypocritical left

How does homosexuality cause damage to our society? How does the left love terrorism? What the hell kind of mental leaps do you have to go through to convince yourself that the likes of Van Cliburn, Peter Tchaikovsky, Leonard Bernstein, Samuel Barber, Aaron Copland, and others are on the same level as people who blow up buildings?
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#183 Darkainious
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[QUOTE="Syk0_k03r"][QUOTE="Rougehunter"]Still waiting for a reply;)

Rougehunter

Because it is written in the bible, and EVERY HOLY BOOK, that homosexuality is an abomination. Plus common sense... That if a man is sexually attracted to another man, something is VERY WRONG

Hateful bigots like you are an abomination. If Jesus did exist he would most likely think that your are a disgrace to his ideas and beliefs because he would be a person of respect and tolerance and not hate and bigotry. Christianity is a religion of love and respect right?

Jesus is like god. He would love them, and but he would also reach out to them and show them the error of their ways.
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[QUOTE="Darkainious"][QUOTE="XD4NTESINF3RNOX"][QUOTE="Syk0_k03r"] Why not? Both cause damage to our society... and both are LOVED by the hypocritical left

Dumb asses like you also cause harm to our society. Peace out.

I can has mod for you?

Be my guest I don't give a ****
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#185 Syk0_k03r
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[QUOTE="Syk0_k03r"][QUOTE="Rougehunter"]Still waiting for a reply;)

Rougehunter

Because it is written in the bible, and EVERY HOLY BOOK, that homosexuality is an abomination. Plus common sense... That if a man is sexually attracted to another man, something is VERY WRONG

Hateful bigots like you are an abomination. If Jesus did exist he would most likely think that your are a disgrace to his ideas and beliefs because he would be a person of respect and tolerance and not hate and bigotry.

Knowing right from wrong, how is that "hate and bigotry"?
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[QUOTE="Rougehunter"]

[QUOTE="Syk0_k03r"] Because it is written in the bible, and EVERY HOLY BOOK, that homosexuality is an abomination. Plus common sense... That if a man is sexually attracted to another man, something is VERY WRONGDarkainious

Hateful bigots like you are an abomination. If Jesus did exist he would most likely think that your are a disgrace to his ideas and beliefs because he would be a person of respect and tolerance and not hate and bigotry. Christianity is a religion of love and respect right?

Jesus is like god. He would love them, and but he would also reach out to them and show them the error of their ways.

Thats fine and all but would he show so much hate for being different?

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[QUOTE="Rougehunter"]

[QUOTE="Syk0_k03r"] Because it is written in the bible, and EVERY HOLY BOOK, that homosexuality is an abomination. Plus common sense... That if a man is sexually attracted to another man, something is VERY WRONGSyk0_k03r

Hateful bigots like you are an abomination. If Jesus did exist he would most likely think that your are a disgrace to his ideas and beliefs because he would be a person of respect and tolerance and not hate and bigotry.

Knowing right from wrong, how is that "hate and bigotry"?

Right and wrong are not universals.

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[QUOTE="Rougehunter"]

[QUOTE="Syk0_k03r"] Because it is written in the bible, and EVERY HOLY BOOK, that homosexuality is an abomination. Plus common sense... That if a man is sexually attracted to another man, something is VERY WRONGSyk0_k03r

Hateful bigots like you are an abomination. If Jesus did exist he would most likely think that your are a disgrace to his ideas and beliefs because he would be a person of respect and tolerance and not hate and bigotry.

Knowing right from wrong, how is that "hate and bigotry"?

By discriminating a group of people because they are different from you.

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#189 Darkainious
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[QUOTE="Darkainious"][QUOTE="THE_DRUGGIE"]

Why does same-sex marriage falls under the "bad" category? :?

THE_DRUGGIE

did you miss all the bible scriptures? God does not approve

That sounds pretty hateful to not approve of such a large (not to mention conceptually harmless) component of daily life.

Not to mention basing political action off of one religion is unfair to those who don't practice it.

Thats a real shame for the people who don't share the same religion. God instituted marriage for procreation and raising of families. Do you think he like his definition changed to include a group of people who are clearly denounced in the bible? He loves all his children, but he doesn't love all their acts.
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[QUOTE="THE_DRUGGIE"]

[QUOTE="Darkainious"] Imagine a loving parent, who is willing to give you another chance if you do something bad. Darkainious

Why does same-sex marriage falls under the "bad" category? :?

did you miss all the bible scriptures? God does not approve

This is basically "God said, I believe it, that settles it."
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[QUOTE="Syk0_k03r"][QUOTE="Rougehunter"]Hateful bigots like you are an abomination. If Jesus did exist he would most likely think that your are a disgrace to his ideas and beliefs because he would be a person of respect and tolerance and not hate and bigotry.

theone86

Knowing right from wrong, how is that "hate and bigotry"?

Right and wrong are not universals.

They are, alot of people are just wrong about them.
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#192 Darkainious
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[QUOTE="Darkainious"][QUOTE="Rougehunter"]Hateful bigots like you are an abomination. If Jesus did exist he would most likely think that your are a disgrace to his ideas and beliefs because he would be a person of respect and tolerance and not hate and bigotry. Christianity is a religion of love and respect right?

Rougehunter

Jesus is like god. He would love them, and but he would also reach out to them and show them the error of their ways.

Thats fine and all but would he show so much hate for being different?

Just how is it showing hate, to prevent a change in the definition of marriage?
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#193 theone86
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[QUOTE="theone86"]

[QUOTE="Syk0_k03r"] Knowing right from wrong, how is that "hate and bigotry"?PannicAtack

Right and wrong are not universals.

They are, alot of people are just wrong about them.

Perhaps I should clarify, they're not entirely malleable either, but they are far from universal.

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#194 ragek1ll589
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Looks like it's proven then... God hates gaysSyk0_k03r

Well its official, Fred Phelps posts on Gamespot.

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#195 Rougehunter
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[QUOTE="Rougehunter"]

[QUOTE="Darkainious"] Jesus is like god. He would love them, and but he would also reach out to them and show them the error of their ways. Darkainious

Thats fine and all but would he show so much hate for being different?

Just how is it showing hate, to prevent a change in the definition of marriage?

By showing disgust and thinking the people don't deserve it.

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#196 theone86
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[QUOTE="Rougehunter"]

[QUOTE="Darkainious"] Jesus is like god. He would love them, and but he would also reach out to them and show them the error of their ways. Darkainious

Thats fine and all but would he show so much hate for being different?

Just how is it showing hate, to prevent a change in the definition of marriage?

Because it's not about definition, it's about instutionalized discrimination.

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#197 THE_DRUGGIE
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[QUOTE="Darkainious"] did you miss all the bible scriptures? God does not approveDarkainious

That sounds pretty hateful to not approve of such a large (not to mention conceptually harmless) component of daily life.

Not to mention basing political action off of one religion is unfair to those who don't practice it.

Thats a real shame for the people who don't share the same religion. God instituted marriage for procreation and raising of families. Do you think he like his definition changed to include a group of people who are clearly denounced in the bible? He loves all his children, but he doesn't love all their acts.

Marriage is a union between consenting adults. Whatever comes after that is your opinion.

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#198 Darkainious
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[QUOTE="Darkainious"][QUOTE="THE_DRUGGIE"]

Why does same-sex marriage falls under the "bad" category? :?

rockguy92

did you miss all the bible scriptures? God does not approve

This is basically "God said, I believe it, that settles it."

That should settle it if you are a christian. An astonishing number of christians choose to ignore the scriptures that condemn it.

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#199 Darkainious
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[QUOTE="Darkainious"][QUOTE="THE_DRUGGIE"]

That sounds pretty hateful to not approve of such a large (not to mention conceptually harmless) component of daily life.

Not to mention basing political action off of one religion is unfair to those who don't practice it.

THE_DRUGGIE

Thats a real shame for the people who don't share the same religion. God instituted marriage for procreation and raising of families. Do you think he like his definition changed to include a group of people who are clearly denounced in the bible? He loves all his children, but he doesn't love all their acts.

Marriage is a union between consenting adults. Whatever comes after that is your opinion.

No, it is between a man and a woman. That is how it has always been. Now people are trying to change a definition god made. This is not going to turn out prettily for them.
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#200 rockguy92
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[QUOTE="rockguy92"][QUOTE="Darkainious"] did you miss all the bible scriptures? God does not approveDarkainious

This is basically "God said, I believe it, that settles it."

That should settle it if you are a christian. An astonishing number of christians choose to ignore the scriptures that condemn it.

So because a book says something, you have to completely believe it no questions asked?