[QUOTE="SpartanMSU"]There are people who will. That's what matters. why does it matter to you what other people do? are you one of those people who think gays should be killed, or minorities should have less rights? people justify those stances the same way the prohibitionists justify their stances. either people are free or they are not, being free is an absolute, its like a true false statement, either its all true or it is false. are you for or against people controlling your actions, whatever they may be on any level someone objects to how you live your life, if you have the power to dictate to others how to live you must accept others have that same power over you.I think what many people in this thread don't realize is that just because something like heroin becomes legal, doesn't mean everyone's going to start doing it. Heroin and other hardcore drugs being illegal isn't what stop me from doing them. If I really had the desire to consume hardcore drugs, I could do so, regardless of whether they're illegal or not.
Also, whoever uses the argument of "who am I to tell a woman what to do with her body" in terms of abortions also must be fine drugs being legal. Unless you're a hypocrite.
BranKetra
Should drugs be legalized?
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No. I would like to see a study showing the percentage of personnel in a police force that are dedicated solely to fighting crime on drugs and how legalizing drugs would affect them. For example, would legalizing it and thus hopefully minimizing drug crimes (i.e. arrests for possession) make them obsolete and put a good portion of police officers out of a job? What about the DEA and everyone else? Ghost_702lol, you're serious?
No and anybody that says yes are the type of people that shouldn't even be allowed to vote.AmazonTreeBoaSo because someones opinion is different to yours they shouldn't be allowed to vote? You have to expand upon that a bit.
No. I would like to see a study showing the percentage of personnel in a police force that are dedicated solely to fighting crime on drugs and how legalizing drugs would affect them. For example, would legalizing it and thus hopefully minimizing drug crimes (i.e. arrests for possession) make them obsolete and put a good portion of police officers out of a job? What about the DEA and everyone else? Ghost_702half of the people currently in jail are there for nonviolent drug offenses, see prohibition works, just look at all these people in jail who never hurt another person. that is well over a million 1,000,000 people in jail for doing no harm
are you one of those people who think gays should be killed, or minorities should have less rights?No.
why does it matter to you what other people do? people justify those stances the same way the prohibitionists justify their stances. either people are free or they are not, being free is an absolute, its like a true false statement, either its all true or it is false. are you for or against people controlling your actions, whatever they may be on any level someone objects to how you live your life, if you have the power to dictate to others how to live you must accept others have that same power over you.surrealnumber5It matters to me because humans, by nature, are social creatures. To say that what one person does to himself does not affect others is shortsighted and incorrect. It's not as if drug addiction is contagious like a disease. I said it before, but I'll say it again.
Let's say for example, heroin is legalized and sold over the counter. It's one of the most addictive drugs there is. If a parent decides to pick up some heroin at the local pharmacy and get addicted, he would have to go to a rehabilitation center l and go through a gradual detox program or else he would die. Tell me, what do you think would happen to the rest of the family at that time? My point is, just because someone does something to their own body, it does not mean it will end there. I'm not saying all illegal drugs should remain illegal. Decriminalize some, legalize others, and leave the others as they are.
So because someones opinion is different to yours they shouldn't be allowed to vote? You have to expand upon that a bit. face value works fine for me[QUOTE="AmazonTreeBoa"]No and anybody that says yes are the type of people that shouldn't even be allowed to vote.toast_burner
No and anybody that says yes are the type of people that shouldn't even be allowed to vote.AmazonTreeBoa:lol:gtfo:lol:
Everyone who wants to take drugs already do. Drugs are very easy to get, being able to buy them at shops will make no difference.Let's say for example, heroin is legalized and sold over the counter. It's one of the most addictive drugs there is. If a parent decides to pick up some heroin at the local pharmacy and get addicted, he would have to go to a rehabilitation center l and go through a gradual detox program or else he would die. Tell me, what do you think would happen to the rest of the family at that time? My point is, just because someone does something to their own body, it does not mean it will end there. I'm not saying all illegal drugs should remain illegal. Decriminalize some, legalize others, and leave the others as they are.
BranKetra
You make it sound like if heroin is legal then everyone will go out and buy some, when the reality of the situation is that those people who would buy it legally already buy it illegally.
Everyone who wants to take drugs already do. Drugs are very easy to get, being able to buy them at shops will make no difference.[QUOTE="BranKetra"]
Let's say for example, heroin is legalized and sold over the counter. It's one of the most addictive drugs there is. If a parent decides to pick up some heroin at the local pharmacy and get addicted, he would have to go to a rehabilitation center l and go through a gradual detox program or else he would die. Tell me, what do you think would happen to the rest of the family at that time? My point is, just because someone does something to their own body, it does not mean it will end there. I'm not saying all illegal drugs should remain illegal. Decriminalize some, legalize others, and leave the others as they are.
toast_burner
You make it sound like if heroin is legal then everyone will go out and buy some, when the reality of the situation is that those people who would buy it legally already buy it illegally.
and without a standardized product (safer) that they would have if dealers were legitimate companies with accountability.No and anybody that says yes are the type of people that shouldn't even be allowed to vote.AmazonTreeBoaif anything it should be the other way around. america is supposed to be land of the free. if you dont agree with that maybe you should go elsewhere for a police state
Everyone who wants to take drugs already do. Drugs are very easy to get, being able to buy them at shops will make no difference.[QUOTE="BranKetra"]
Let's say for example, heroin is legalized and sold over the counter. It's one of the most addictive drugs there is. If a parent decides to pick up some heroin at the local pharmacy and get addicted, he would have to go to a rehabilitation center l and go through a gradual detox program or else he would die. Tell me, what do you think would happen to the rest of the family at that time? My point is, just because someone does something to their own body, it does not mean it will end there. I'm not saying all illegal drugs should remain illegal. Decriminalize some, legalize others, and leave the others as they are.
toast_burner
You make it sound like if heroin is legal then everyone will go out and buy some, when the reality of the situation is that those people who would buy it legally already buy it illegally.
I agree. Legal or illegal, I have no desire to try any drugs, really. The only one I have tried, besides alcohol, is pot, and I don't ever use it anymore. And I'm sure it's that way for many others as well. Some people just have a deep interest for mind altering substances. I don't know why we need to persecute them for it. As long as they're not driving while on drugs or putting people in danger in any other way, it's whatever.[QUOTE="AmazonTreeBoa"]No and anybody that says yes are the type of people that shouldn't even be allowed to vote.mingmao3046if anything it should be the other way around. america is supposed to be land of the free. if you dont agree with that maybe you should go elsewhere for a police statefun fact:america has more prisoners per capita than anywhere else in the world
[QUOTE="toast_burner"]Everyone who wants to take drugs already do. Drugs are very easy to get, being able to buy them at shops will make no difference.[QUOTE="BranKetra"]
Let's say for example, heroin is legalized and sold over the counter. It's one of the most addictive drugs there is. If a parent decides to pick up some heroin at the local pharmacy and get addicted, he would have to go to a rehabilitation center l and go through a gradual detox program or else he would die. Tell me, what do you think would happen to the rest of the family at that time? My point is, just because someone does something to their own body, it does not mean it will end there. I'm not saying all illegal drugs should remain illegal. Decriminalize some, legalize others, and leave the others as they are.
surrealnumber5
You make it sound like if heroin is legal then everyone will go out and buy some, when the reality of the situation is that those people who would buy it legally already buy it illegally.
and without a standardized product (safer) that they would have if dealers were legitimate companies with accountability. Which is basically what I think is hurting users most. It's the dealers that are a problem more so than the drugs. People talk about wanting to protect society, what about the people who fall victim to dealers that they are forced to go through for their fix? It's just singling out a group of people for their lifestyle and it's ****ing sick and greatly shows who has possessive/controlling personality traits.Yes but that means you tax them ridiculously
if anything it should be the other way around. america is supposed to be land of the free. if you dont agree with that maybe you should go elsewhere for a police statefun fact:america has more prisoners per capita than anywhere else in the world which is largely to blame due to the absurd drug laws[QUOTE="mingmao3046"][QUOTE="AmazonTreeBoa"]No and anybody that says yes are the type of people that shouldn't even be allowed to vote.almasdeathchild
[QUOTE="almasdeathchild"]fun fact:america has more prisoners per capita than anywhere else in the world which is largely to blame due to the absurd drug lawsding ding ding we got a winner![QUOTE="mingmao3046"] if anything it should be the other way around. america is supposed to be land of the free. if you dont agree with that maybe you should go elsewhere for a police statemingmao3046
I'm surprised that I would even have to make this arguement as I would think it'd be common sense, but here we go anyway...
It seems like a large majority of the people here for the legalization of drugs in general are using the arguement "It's my body, I can do what I want to it. Who does it harm?"
Well....here's the problem with that. You act like drug use begins and ends with you. It doesn't. When you purchase drugs (whether its legal or not) you're supporting crime and criminal organizations to include drug cartels with no respect for law or human life whatsoever. There's a reason why drug abuse and crime are directly correlated. What is a junkie going to do when he/she needs a fix but doesn't have any cash on hand? You think they're going to go down to Home Depot and sell carpet for a couple weeks to support their drug habit? No, they're going to turn to crime.
So, yes, it's you're body. You're free to poison and abuse it in any way you please, but don't act like drug use only affects the individual. Where do you think this stuff comes from? Where do you think the profits go? Ask yourself those questions before assuming your drug habit is completely harmless to anyone but yourself.
yes...right now drug use sometimes supports criminal orginzations. which is one reason of many why we should legalize. drug use in itself is victimless. just because there are a few bad apples doesnt mean we need to take away that freedom altogether (just because some people drink and drive doesnt mean we take away alcohol for everyone)I'm surprised that I would even have to make this arguement as I would think it'd be common sense, but here we go anyway...
It seems like a large majority of the people here for the legalization of drugs in general are using the arguement "It's my body, I can do what I want to it. Who does it harm?"
Well....here's the problem with that. You act like drug use begins and ends with you. It doesn't. When you purchase drugs (whether its legal or not) you're supporting crime and criminal organizations to include drug cartels with no respect for law or human life whatsoever. There's a reason why drug abuse and crime are directly correlated. What is a junkie going to go when he/she needs a fix but doesn't have any cash on hand? You think they're going to go down to Home Depot and sell carpet for a couple weeks to support their drug habit? No, they're going to turn to crime.
So, yes, it's you're body. You're free to poison and abuse it in any way you please, but don't act like drug use only affects the individual. Where do you think this stuff comes from? Where do you think the profits go? Ask yourself those questions before assuming your drug habit is completely harmless to anyone but yourself.
J-Man725
[QUOTE="BranKetra"][QUOTE="achilles614"]Then charge them for driving while drunk. The driver screwed up when he got behind the wheel while being drunk, not when he went to drink a beer.achilles614They are charged for drunk driving, which is a part of my point. Decriminalizing certain drugs rather than completely legalizing them would be better. That way, if people truly want to smoke crack, it's their business. However, legalizing is more akin to a product like food, drink, or a technology. It's more complicated with things like cigarettes, salvia, and alcohol. However, with something like cigarettes, only one person is smoking it but everyone in proximity to the smoker is affected by second hand smoke. With things like salvia and alcohol, it's more of an influential effect than the direct effects of second-hand smoke. If there were evidence that things like heroin weren't bad for you and, since humans are a social species, not affecting those around you, I would support it. At this point, I have not. Being "bad" for you has no place in this argument. If I wanna destroy my body with legal methods Mcdonalds is only 4 miles away and regardless does not matter it is MY body. Affecting others negatively is human nature and can be caused by anything including drugs, we can't single them out and give them the sole blame there are plenty of reasons to be crappy and sometimes it's just because you're a crappy person to begin with. Someone who is an a-hole in their normal life, surprise, is probably an a-hole when they're drunk too. I guarantee that if I shot up heroin right now I wouldn't feel a sudden urge to hurt those around me. And many others that want to enjoy heroin peacefully are the same way, can't let a few bad eggs get in the way of others freedom.The discussion of personal liberty is an ongoing one. Kristen Karr explains "The concept of liberty is frequently invoked when discussing rights in the United States, both individual and constitutional. Less often brought up, however, is what exactly constitutes libertly. Is it delineated in the Constitution? Do we as humans possess some innate sense of what liberty is and what our rights are? No clear consensus has yet emerged." Liberty a self is granted by the Constituion goes as far as the definition of "self": one's own person/your body, mind, and spirit. Everything that composes that is autonomous.
However, as the U.S. has progressed through time, other enviornments besides jails and prisons have emerged to protect the masses. One such place is the mental institution. Erving Goffman surmizes that mental hospitals are "places established to care for persons felt to be both incapable of looking after themselves and a threat to the community, albeit an unintended one." Freedom of affecting one's self is what laws are based on. It's why people are allowed to drink, yet drunk driving is considered a criminal offense in many countries. The point in which a person taking a highly self-destructive drug begins to affect other people in a socioeconomical light is likely taken into account as to why certain drugs are outlawed, yet others are not.
Quite frankly, I don't trust people enough to accept that everyone is going to be smart about using hard drugs, such as cocaine, heroin, or estacy if they were all allowed unrestricted usage. Nor do I think the percentage of users will not negatively affect the state of the U.S. Whether it be a social or economic impact. Both must be accounted for when talking about the affect of the self on others. We do not live in an isolated world unto ourselves.
And prohibition is going to stop that how?I'm surprised that I would even have to make this arguement as I would think it'd be common sense, but here we go anyway...
It seems like a large majority of the people here for the legalization of drugs in general are using the arguement "It's my body, I can do what I want to it. Who does it harm?"
Well....here's the problem with that. You act like drug use begins and ends with you. It doesn't. When you purchase drugs (whether its legal or not) you're supporting crime and criminal organizations to include drug cartels with no respect for law or human life whatsoever. There's a reason why drug abuse and crime are directly correlated. What is a junkie going to do when he/she needs a fix but doesn't have any cash on hand? You think they're going to go down to Home Depot and sell carpet for a couple weeks to support their drug habit? No, they're going to turn to crime.
So, yes, it's you're body. You're free to poison and abuse it in any way you please, but don't act like drug use only affects the individual. Where do you think this stuff comes from? Where do you think the profits go? Ask yourself those questions before assuming your drug habit is completely harmless to anyone but yourself.
J-Man725
yes...right now drug use sometimes supports criminal orginzations. which is one reason of many why we should legalize. drug use in itself is victimless. just because there are a few bad apples doesnt mean we need to take away that freedom altogether (just because some people drink and drive doesnt mean we take away alcohol for everyone)mingmao3046
No, not "sometimes" supports, always supports. Victimless? Do you think that as soon as drugs are legalized that the criminal aspect suddenly vanishes into thin air?
drugs are bad because supporting drugs supports crime and that is why we need to keep them criminal. thank you, you have demonstrated my favorite argumentative fallacy spectacularly, i am so pleased with this i will even say you are right, we should continue the prohibition.I'm surprised that I would even have to make this arguement as I would think it'd be common sense, but here we go anyway...
It seems like a large majority of the people here for the legalization of drugs in general are using the arguement "It's my body, I can do what I want to it. Who does it harm?"
Well....here's the problem with that. You act like drug use begins and ends with you. It doesn't. When you purchase drugs (whether its legal or not) you're supporting crime and criminal organizations to include drug cartels with no respect for law or human life whatsoever. There's a reason why drug abuse and crime are directly correlated. What is a junkie going to do when he/she needs a fix but doesn't have any cash on hand? You think they're going to go down to Home Depot and sell carpet for a couple weeks to support their drug habit? No, they're going to turn to crime.
So, yes, it's you're body. You're free to poison and abuse it in any way you please, but don't act like drug use only affects the individual. Where do you think this stuff comes from? Where do you think the profits go? Ask yourself those questions before assuming your drug habit is completely harmless to anyone but yourself.
J-Man725
[QUOTE="mingmao3046"]yes...right now drug use sometimes supports criminal orginzations. which is one reason of many why we should legalize. drug use in itself is victimless. just because there are a few bad apples doesnt mean we need to take away that freedom altogether (just because some people drink and drive doesnt mean we take away alcohol for everyone)J-Man725
No, not "sometimes" supports, always supports. Victimless? Do you think that as soon as drugs are legalized that the criminal aspect suddenly vanishes into thin air?
uhh no. its sometimes. alot of the softer drugs (pot, shrooms, lsd, etc), are locally made and were never in the posession of organizations like cartels or violent gangs. and yes, once they are legal no one is going to buy them illegaly. the black market would be destroyed[QUOTE="BranKetra"] [QUOTE="surrealnumber5"] why does it matter to you what other people do? people justify those stances the same way the prohibitionists justify their stances. either people are free or they are not, being free is an absolute, its like a true false statement, either its all true or it is false. are you for or against people controlling your actions, whatever they may be on any level someone objects to how you live your life, if you have the power to dictate to others how to live you must accept others have that same power over you.surrealnumber5It matters to me because humans, by nature, are social creatures. To say that what one person does to himself does not affect others is shortsighted and incorrect. It's not as if drug addiction is contagious like a disease. I said it before, but I'll say it again. Take heroin for example, it's one of the most addictive drugs there is. If a parent decides to pick up some heroin at the local pharmacy and get addicted, he would have to go to a rehabilitation center l and go through a gradual detox program or else he would die. Tell me, what do you think would happen to the rest of the family at that time? My point is, just because someone does something to their own body, it does not mean it will end there. I'm not saying all illegal drugs should remain illegal. Decriminalize some, legalize others, and leave the others as they are. chances are that family would break up, but most families break up, the "standard" family portrait is by far the least common in the real world, even if it is the most common on TV. no amount of having freedom has ever destroyed a civilization, the same cannot be said about an over bearing state.True, the family model has changed greatly over the past few decades. About freedom, that would be subjective, differing with factors of different cultures and population size, to name two. Would the true democracy of Athens work for the United States today? I haven't seen any ITT calling for an overbearing state. Personally, I'm calling for people to give me some proof that the majority of people are responsible enough to account for their own actions.
[QUOTE="Stavrogin_"]And prohibition is going to stop that how?J-Man725
I never said it would and quite obviously it doesn't. But do you honestly think the situation would be improved by legalizing drug use?
Yes, prohibiting it has done nothing but worsen the situation...drugs are bad because supporting drugs supports crime and that is why we need to keep them criminal. thank you, you have demonstrated my favorite argumentative fallacy spectacularly, i am so pleased with this i will even say you are right, we should continue the prohibition.surrealnumber5
Argue what is mistaken with that statement and I'll gladly debate further. I don't live in a fairy tale world where I pretend like drugs don't contribute substantially to violent crime.
If your answer is no you are a communist. Of course it should be legalized. Illegalizing drugs is like illegalizing freedom.
Being "bad" for you has no place in this argument. If I wanna destroy my body with legal methods Mcdonalds is only 4 miles away and regardless does not matter it is MY body. Affecting others negatively is human nature and can be caused by anything including drugs, we can't single them out and give them the sole blame there are plenty of reasons to be crappy and sometimes it's just because you're a crappy person to begin with. Someone who is an a-hole in their normal life, surprise, is probably an a-hole when they're drunk too. I guarantee that if I shot up heroin right now I wouldn't feel a sudden urge to hurt those around me. And many others that want to enjoy heroin peacefully are the same way, can't let a few bad eggs get in the way of others freedom.The discussion of personal liberty is an ongoing one. Kristen Karr explains "The concept of liberty is frequently invoked when discussing rights in the United States, both individual and constitutional. Less often brought up, however, is what exactly constitutes libertly. Is it delineated in the Constitution? Do we as humans possess some innate sense of what liberty is and what our rights are? No clear consensus has yet emerged." Liberty a self is granted by the Constituion goes as far as the definition of "self": one's own person/your body, mind, and spirit. Everything that composes that is granted autonomy.[QUOTE="achilles614"][QUOTE="BranKetra"]They are charged for drunk driving, which is a part of my point. Decriminalizing certain drugs rather than completely legalizing them would be better. That way, if people truly want to smoke crack, it's their business. However, legalizing is more akin to a product like food, drink, or a technology. It's more complicated with things like cigarettes, salvia, and alcohol. However, with something like cigarettes, only one person is smoking it but everyone in proximity to the smoker is affected by second hand smoke. With things like salvia and alcohol, it's more of an influential effect than the direct effects of second-hand smoke. If there were evidence that things like heroin weren't bad for you and, since humans are a social species, not affecting those around you, I would support it. At this point, I have not.BranKetra
However, as the U.S. has progressed through time, other enviornments besides jails and prisons have emerged to protect the masses. One such place is the mental institution. Erving Goffman surmizes that mental hospitals are "places established to care for persons felt to be both incapable of looking after themselves and a threat to the community, albeit an unintended one." Freedom of affecting one's self is what laws are based on. It's why people are allowed to drink, yet drunk driving is considered a criminal offense in many countries. The point in which a person taking a highly self-destructive drug begins to affect other people in a socioeconomical light is likely taken into account as to why certain drugs are outlawed, yet others are not.
Great if I had just avoided the use of the word freedom I could have avoided all that. Do you not understand that stupid people do stupid things regardless of drugs? I'm not saying drugs are perfect or harmless but that much greater harm is coming from their prohibition. Drugs affect everyone differently and sorry but meth isn't a "crazy pill" neither is any drug. Being available at a store or from the dealer people will always be able to obtain what they want, at least from a store it can be regulated. Educate yourself (not from books the web or news) about the reality of the drug trade that guns and violence (when associated with drugs) are a product of drugs being illegal. There's more danger to my neighborhood having a gang run trap house than cocaine being sold at my pharmacy. To think that we are really better off with drugs being illegal is silly and shows knowledge from a biased perspective (or from a 1st world white collar perspective). The society that will be ruined (supposedly) by legalization is already being ****ed.I can't see the connection between drugs and communismIf your answer is no you are a communist. Of course it should be legalized. Illegalizing drugs is like illegalizing freedom.
themajormayor
I can't see the connection between drugs and communism Communists hate freedom and banning drugs=banning freedom. So against drugs=communist. It's just simple math.[QUOTE="themajormayor"]
If your answer is no you are a communist. Of course it should be legalized. Illegalizing drugs is like illegalizing freedom.
toast_burner
I can't see the connection between drugs and communism My political beliefs are very communist and Marxist in nature, but I support legalization of all drugs. True communism wouldn't prohibit one from getting high as a kite.[QUOTE="themajormayor"]
If your answer is no you are a communist. Of course it should be legalized. Illegalizing drugs is like illegalizing freedom.
toast_burner
[QUOTE="themajormayor"]If you don't fight for freedom of other countries, you support communism. I can do that too. Depend on what countriesIf your answer is no you are a communist. Of course it should be legalized. Illegalizing drugs is like illegalizing freedom.
BranKetra
[QUOTE="toast_burner"]I can't see the connection between drugs and communism My political beliefs are very communist and Marxist in nature, but I support legalization of all drugs. True communism wouldn't prohibit one from getting high as a kite. It's just cause you think it'll be easier to control and brainwash the masses if they're on drugs.[QUOTE="themajormayor"]
If your answer is no you are a communist. Of course it should be legalized. Illegalizing drugs is like illegalizing freedom.
Diophage
[QUOTE="Diophage"][QUOTE="toast_burner"]I can't see the connection between drugs and communismthemajormayorMy political beliefs are very communist and Marxist in nature, but I support legalization of all drugs. True communism wouldn't prohibit one from getting high as a kite. It's just cause you think it'll be easier to control and brainwash the masses if they're on drugs. No, true communism has nothing to do with controlling people. It would nearly be a utopia, and people would be intelligent enough to not need someone to control them. I mean, what would be the purpose of controlling people if we were living in a society that is classless, stateless and without things like money? Nothing to gain from abusing others. Everyone would have everything they need.
Great if I had just avoided the use of the word freedom I could have avoided all that. If you don't want a discussion, don't respond to my posts.Do you not understand that stupid people do stupid things regardless of drugs? Yes I do, thanks for asking.
I'm not saying drugs are perfect or harmless but that much greater harm is coming from their prohibition. Show proof. Word of mouth is not good enough to affect legislation.
Drugs affect everyone differently and sorry but meth isn't a "crazy pill" neither is any drug. Show proof that being physically addicted to a drug will not affect a person mentally. Good luck with that.
Being available at a store or from the dealer people will always be able to obtain what they want, at least from a store it can be regulated. Educate yourself (not from books the web or news) about the reality of the drug trade that guns and violence (when associated with drugs) are a product of drugs being illegal. There's more danger to my neighborhood having a gang run trap house than cocaine being sold at my pharmacy. Would it be a stretch to say the same for guns? The selling and owning of a 9mm is legal in many places, but there is still smuggling and illegal trade.
To think that we are really better off with drugs being illegal is silly and shows knowledge from a biased perspective (or from a 1st world white collar perspective). If that's what you think, you've got a lot to learn about the people you are talking to.
The society that will be ruined (supposedly) by legalization is already being ****ed. How would the society of the U.S. be better if all or a particular drug were legalized?achilles614
[QUOTE="BranKetra"][QUOTE="themajormayor"]If you don't fight for freedom of other countries, you support communism. I can do that too. Depend on what countries Freedom is the right of all sentient beings.If your answer is no you are a communist. Of course it should be legalized. Illegalizing drugs is like illegalizing freedom.
themajormayor
[QUOTE="toast_burner"]I can't see the connection between drugs and communism Communists hate freedom and banning drugs=banning freedom. So against drugs=communist. It's just simple math.You have no idea what communism is, do you?[QUOTE="themajormayor"]
If your answer is no you are a communist. Of course it should be legalized. Illegalizing drugs is like illegalizing freedom.
themajormayor
[QUOTE="Diophage"][QUOTE="themajormayor"]It's just cause you think it'll be easier to control and brainwash the masses if they're on drugs.themajormayorNo, true communism has nothing to do with controlling people. It would nearly be a utopia, and people would be intelligent enough to not need someone to control them. I mean, what would be the purpose of controlling people if we were living in a society that is classless, stateless and without things like money? Nothing to gain from abusing others. Everyone would have everything they need. Yeah to bad the definition of utopia is that it is impossible to achieve. And that there is no such thing as "moneyless". Unless you like them all to starve. Yeah, but you're assertion about being a communist was stupid as hell. You are aware of that, no?
Communists hate freedom and banning drugs=banning freedom. So against drugs=communist. It's just simple math.You have no idea what communism is, do you? I was just joking, illegalizing drugs=/=commuism. But yes I know enough about communism to know it sucks.[QUOTE="themajormayor"][QUOTE="toast_burner"]I can't see the connection between drugs and communism
toast_burner
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