Should drugs be legalized?

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[QUOTE="dsmccracken"] No way, huh? Think again: http://www.vancouversun.com/story_print.html?id=5341224&sponsor=escapes.cadsmccracken

also from the article you posted:"The TTC found no evidence of impairment on the part of the operator," the transit commission stated.

[QUOTE="BranKetra"][QUOTE="thegerg"] Raise your hand if you think 100 people playing basketball is worth one getting hurt. Should we outlaw basketball, many people are injured playing that sport. It's quite selfish not to do so.toast_burner

[QUOTE="dsmccracken"][QUOTE="toast_burner"]I'm sure the bus driver was also wearing underwear. Should we ban boxer shorts while we're at it?

also from the article you posted:"The TTC found no evidence of impairment on the part of the operator," the transit commission stated.

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[QUOTE="BranKetra"][QUOTE="thegerg"] Raise your hand if you think 100 people playing basketball is worth one getting hurt. Should we outlaw basketball, many people are injured playing that sport. It's quite selfish not to do so.toast_burner

Depends on who you ask. It's recreation for most and a profession for some. Likewise, many people take drugs to feel good. Others experiment their bodies. An even fewer number of scientists have studied the effects of drugs like DMT in a professional setting. Basically, I'm asking why should they be legalized and in what way. People have and will continue to say that all drugs should be legal simply because they exist a.k.a. basically the vs basketball argument.

This situation is a reason why I like countries where majority vote wins.

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[QUOTE="dsmccracken"] Yes. Because underwear is just as likely as an intoxicant is to cause impaired driving. That is an early article just after the incident. Things have progressed: http://www.examiner.com/crime-in-toronto/toronto-bus-driver-charged-fatal-crashdsmccracken

I'll play along anyway. If pot becomes legal, what makes you think everyone will smoke it while driving? you don't see everyone constantly drunk because alcohol is illegal.

Heck no!

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[QUOTE="BranKetra"] Because basketball and using drugs is equatable.thegerg

Dsmccracken, we know that cellphone use while driving causes thousands of traffic collisions and injuries every year. Should cellphones be outlawed?thegerg

[QUOTE="dsmccracken"][QUOTE="toast_burner"]Well I think we're in agreement, lets ban buses.

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I'll play along anyway. If pot becomes legal, what makes you think everyone will smoke it while driving? you don't see everyone constantly drunk because alcohol is illegal.

[QUOTE="thegerg"]Dsmccracken, we know that cellphone use while driving causes thousands of traffic collisions and injuries every year. Should cellphones be outlawed?toast_burner

Are you aware of all the side effects and causes that some hard drugs do? Drugs are addictive (duh) and can be extremely dangerous and can kill people. There are people in this world that be stupid enough to give cocaine or meth to their infant if all drugs were legal. This is just insane and never gonna happen. You might as well encourage to murder while you're at this too.

[QUOTE="dsmccracken"][QUOTE="thegerg"] An accident in a game is just that: an accident. A traffic accident is usually quite similar, without fault or criminal charges. But add impairment, and charges are laid... hmm, wonder why?thegerg

And btw, alcohol should not be legal either.dsmccracken

Can you please just justify in a civil manner why they should be illegal without bringing up traffic accident (because driving is tottaly irrelevent to drug use)

Dsmccracken, we know that cellphone use while driving causes thousands of traffic collisions and injuries every year. Should cellphones be outlawed?thegerg

I don't just mean marijuana, I mean ALL (cocaine, heroin etc.). I say yes, the war on drugs doesn't do anything it just distracts police officers from doing police work that matters. People are going to do drugs no matter what and this shouldn't mean they should be placed on the same level of rapists and robbers. Also if we move all drug trafficing to certain areas of a city we can attempt to sanitize drug use and help the users instead of throwing them away as "scum of society." But hey that's just me.

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NO!!!

I can understand marijuana, but cocain and heroin are extremy addictive and deadly. Once you try heroin your addicted for life not to mention kill you.

[QUOTE="dsmccracken"]And btw, alcohol should not be legal either.toast_burner

Can you please just justify in a civil manner why they should be illegal without bringing up traffic accident (because driving is tottaly irrelevent to drug use)

I think all hard drugs should be banned (Meth, cocaine, heroin, etc), but alcohol and tobacco should remain legal and marijuana should become legalized. Alcohol and marijuana are only dangerous if you act stupid with them. Tobacco is bad for your health, but too many people are addicted and there's too big an industry to ban it. It would be like prohibition again. I also believe that the age for all three should be set at 18.

[QUOTE="dsmccracken"][QUOTE="thegerg"]Dsmccracken, we know that cellphone use while driving causes thousands of traffic collisions and injuries every year. Should cellphones be outlawed?thegerg

Why does it matter where I come from?

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[QUOTE="dsmccracken"]And btw, alcohol should not be legal either.dsmccracken

Can you please just justify in a civil manner why they should be illegal without bringing up traffic accident (because driving is tottaly irrelevent to drug use)

[QUOTE="dsmccracken"][QUOTE="toast_burner"]I'm sorry but my mind just blew up:lol:

Can you please just justify in a civil manner why they should be illegal without bringing up traffic accident (because driving is tottaly irrelevent to drug use)

thegerg

I'm on the side of legalizing certain drugs... but let's get real. The health benefits come from having a few sips of low alcohol content drinks. Who just has a few sips?

[QUOTE="dsmccracken"][QUOTE="thegerg"] Yes, I do. it is a criminal act to damage the property of another.

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[QUOTE="dsmccracken"][QUOTE="toast_burner"]I'm sorry but my mind just blew up:lol:

Can you please just justify in a civil manner why they should be illegal without bringing up traffic accident (because driving is tottaly irrelevent to drug use)

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[QUOTE="dsmccracken"][QUOTE="toast_burner"]I'm sorry but my mind just blew up:lol:

Can you please just justify in a civil manner why they should be illegal without bringing up traffic accident (because driving is tottaly irrelevent to drug use)

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A lot of people bring up addiction but what about LSD, Ecstasy and quite a few other illegal drugs that aren't addictive?

A lot of people bring up addiction but what about LSD, Ecstasy and quite a few other illegal drugs that aren't addictive?

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A lot of people bring up addiction but what about LSD, Ecstasy and quite a few other illegal drugs that aren't addictive?

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Also if you buy ecstasy thinking it's going to be pure than you are an idiot.

It's nice to see this thread still going. If only we could actually convince the government to legalize some great drugs.

[QUOTE="dsmccracken"][QUOTE="thegerg"] But those devices are not outlawed, as marijuana is in the US. Why outlaw marijuana because it can cause injuries due to impairment but not outlaw cellphones for the same reason?

Why does it matter where I come from?

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If, however, you are 5 years old, then this is acceptable behavior, and proceed as normal.

Anyway, I've already answered your last question. Cellphones impair driving due to their acting as a distraction, not due to any impairing influence they have over human cognitive function or critical thinking skills, unlike marijuana, despite your incorrect assertion to the contrary.

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A lot of people bring up addiction but what about LSD, Ecstasy and quite a few other illegal drugs that aren't addictive?

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Also if you buy ecstasy thinking it's going to be pure than you are an idiot.

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[QUOTE="dsmccracken"] Ecstasy is addictive... as are the substance(s) people actually get when they think they are buying MDMA. It's incredibly common for people to get cuts including Crank when they ask for Ecstasy.dsmccracken

Also if you buy ecstasy thinking it's going to be pure than you are an idiot.

Ecstasy isn't MDMA, thats like saying Cola is caffeine. I've seen accidents done by completely sober people dong incredibly stupid things, what of it?

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[QUOTE="thegerg"] You seem to be very confused. There are a number of known health benefits to alcohol. It's becoming more and more clear that you have no idea what you're talking about.thegerg

[QUOTE="dsmccracken"][QUOTE="toast_burner"]What about LSD and MDMA then?

Also if you buy ecstasy thinking it's going to be pure than you are an idiot.

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Ecstasy isn't MDMA, thats like saying Cola is caffeine. I've seen accidents done by completely sober people dong incredibly stupid things, what of it?