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[QUOTE="swizz-the-gamer"] Criminals have guns in the UK... I don't have a gun. I'm not afraid.
reagan80_basic
But, aren't you just a little concerned about what the Canterbury Archbishop said about "adopting some Islamic Sharia laws" to quell :Muzzy" angst in the U.K.?
I believe Churchill would have called this notion "appeasement".
What power does the Archbishop have in enacting those laws....
[QUOTE="reagan80_basic"][QUOTE="swizz-the-gamer"] Criminals have guns in the UK... I don't have a gun. I'm not afraid.
KG86
But, aren't you just a little concerned about what the Canterbury Archbishop said about "adopting some Islamic Sharia laws" to quell :Muzzy" angst in the U.K.?
I believe Churchill would have called this notion "appeasement".
What power does the Archbishop have in enacting those laws....
Even if they did I don't think the civilians are going to get up and go, "Time to kill us some Sharia law makers".[QUOTE="GettingTired"]No. Get rid of one Bill of Right, and then the others will go in time aswell.bman784
Yes, in today's times the second amendment does seem somewhat useless. But maybe another 50 years down the line the government will start deeming other rights as "useless". Then maybe one day the first amendment will be repealed, because the government has decided that in the current age, certain religions must be prohibited for the safety of the people. It sets a precedent that the Bill of Rights holds little value.
I think that was kinda worded funny because yesterday I was at a gun range with about 70-100 people having fun with guns but not killing a single thing Good for you. That's not what everyone does though, sadly, and that's not what they're made to do. People don't usually pay $1000 for some guns so they can shoot at cardboard.[QUOTE="Bloodbath_87"] Just think about that...guns do nothing except TAKE LIFE AWAY.mastershake575
[QUOTE="swizz-the-gamer"][QUOTE="mastershake575"]I think that was kinda worded funny because yesterday I was at a gun range with about 70-100 people having fun with guns but not killing a single thing Drugs are illegal because they are dangerous but not everyone uses them in a dangerous way.[QUOTE="Bloodbath_87"] Just think about that...guns do nothing except TAKE LIFE AWAY.-TheSecondSign-
Drugs can't defend people. They can fry your brain, but that's it.
Legally owned firearms are rarely a danger, because they are rarely used for crime. THey can be tracked.
Illegally gained firearms are the universal preference. We should use resources to constrict the trade of illegal firearms over banning all of them, in my opinion.
You can defend yourself with a baseball bat. Well, unless you're trying to defend yourself from a person who has a gun.[QUOTE="GettingTired"]No. Get rid of one Bill of Right, and then the others will go in time aswell.bman784
Hey.... if we start bending the rules and breaking apart the bill of rights, that would techincally be dividing america.
United we stand, divided we fall.....does that sound familiar?
[QUOTE="reagan80_basic"][QUOTE="swizz-the-gamer"] Criminals have guns in the UK... I don't have a gun. I'm not afraid.
wemhim
But, aren't you just a little concerned about what the Canterbury Archbishop said about "adopting some Islamic Sharia laws" to quell :Muzzy" angst in the U.K.?
I believe Churchill would have called this notion "appeasement".
I don't think he'd shoot them over it.You might be right.
Hell, I could be wrong about the "violent Mexican separatist movement" thing.
If our country ever disintegrates, it'll probably happen a way that it almost did in Canada's Quebec![QUOTE="bman784"][QUOTE="GettingTired"]No. Get rid of one Bill of Right, and then the others will go in time aswell.GettingTired
Yes, in today's times the second amendment does seem somewhat useless. But maybe another 50 years down the line the government will start deeming other rights as "useless". Then maybe one day the first amendment will be repealed, because the government has decided that in the current age, certain religions must be prohibited for the safety of the people. It sets a precedent that the Bill of Rights holds little value.
[QUOTE="wemhim"][QUOTE="reagan80_basic"][QUOTE="swizz-the-gamer"] Criminals have guns in the UK... I don't have a gun. I'm not afraid.
reagan80_basic
But, aren't you just a little concerned about what the Canterbury Archbishop said about "adopting some Islamic Sharia laws" to quell :Muzzy" angst in the U.K.?
I believe Churchill would have called this notion "appeasement".
I don't think he'd shoot them over it.You might be right.
Hell, I could be wrong about the "violent Mexican separatist movement" thing.
If our country ever disintegrates, it'll probably happen a way that it almost did in Canada's Quebec! Frankly everything you have said so far has been ridiculous.[QUOTE="GettingTired"]No. Get rid of one Bill of Right, and then the others will go in time aswell.reagan80_basic
I couldn't have said it better myself. Thank you.
Like the18th amendment? Going by that, your assumption doesn't make sence.[QUOTE="reagan80_basic"][QUOTE="swizz-the-gamer"] Criminals have guns in the UK... I don't have a gun. I'm not afraid.
KG86
But, aren't you just a little concerned about what the Canterbury Archbishop said about "adopting some Islamic Sharia laws" to quell :Muzzy" angst in the U.K.?
I believe Churchill would have called this notion "appeasement".
What power does the Archbishop have in enacting those laws....
The guy I quoted said he had nothing to fear about being unarmed in the UK.
The Archbishop might not be a lawmaker, but he is presumptively a member of Britain's "elites". If he's willing to say that in public, then the situation must be deteriorating there more than I would have expected.
[QUOTE="KG86"][QUOTE="reagan80_basic"][QUOTE="swizz-the-gamer"] Criminals have guns in the UK... I don't have a gun. I'm not afraid.
reagan80_basic
But, aren't you just a little concerned about what the Canterbury Archbishop said about "adopting some Islamic Sharia laws" to quell :Muzzy" angst in the U.K.?
I believe Churchill would have called this notion "appeasement".
What power does the Archbishop have in enacting those laws....
The guy I quoted said he had nothing to fear about being unarmed in the UK.
The Archbishop might not be a lawmaker, but he is presumptively a member of Britain's "elites". If he's willing to say that in public, then the situation must be deteriorating there more than I would have expected.
So I need a gun because?[QUOTE="reagan80_basic"][QUOTE="wemhim"][QUOTE="reagan80_basic"][QUOTE="swizz-the-gamer"] Criminals have guns in the UK... I don't have a gun. I'm not afraid.
swizz-the-gamer
But, aren't you just a little concerned about what the Canterbury Archbishop said about "adopting some Islamic Sharia laws" to quell :Muzzy" angst in the U.K.?
I believe Churchill would have called this notion "appeasement".
I don't think he'd shoot them over it.You might be right.
Hell, I could be wrong about the "violent Mexican separatist movement" thing.
If our country ever disintegrates, it'll probably happen a way that it almost did in Canada's Quebec! Frankly everything you have said so far has been ridiculous.What's ridiculous?
Is it that 49.42% of French-Canadians voted to secede from Canada and form a new country in 1995?
[QUOTE="swizz-the-gamer"][QUOTE="reagan80_basic"][QUOTE="wemhim"][QUOTE="reagan80_basic"][QUOTE="swizz-the-gamer"] Criminals have guns in the UK... I don't have a gun. I'm not afraid.
reagan80_basic
But, aren't you just a little concerned about what the Canterbury Archbishop said about "adopting some Islamic Sharia laws" to quell :Muzzy" angst in the U.K.?
I believe Churchill would have called this notion "appeasement".
I don't think he'd shoot them over it.You might be right.
Hell, I could be wrong about the "violent Mexican separatist movement" thing.
If our country ever disintegrates, it'll probably happen a way that it almost did in Canada's Quebec! Frankly everything you have said so far has been ridiculous.What's ridiculous?
Is it that 49.42% of French-Canadians voted to secede from Canada and form a new country in 1995?
So? You gonna shoot em'?So I need a gun because?
swizz-the-gamer
Because the government's multi-culturalist policies are setting up conditions so that the UK will be a giant soccer (or football) stadium brawl, but with more fires.
[QUOTE="reagan80_basic"][QUOTE="swizz-the-gamer"][QUOTE="reagan80_basic"][QUOTE="wemhim"][QUOTE="reagan80_basic"][QUOTE="swizz-the-gamer"] Criminals have guns in the UK... I don't have a gun. I'm not afraid.
swizz-the-gamer
But, aren't you just a little concerned about what the Canterbury Archbishop said about "adopting some Islamic Sharia laws" to quell :Muzzy" angst in the U.K.?
I believe Churchill would have called this notion "appeasement".
I don't think he'd shoot them over it.You might be right.
Hell, I could be wrong about the "violent Mexican separatist movement" thing.
If our country ever disintegrates, it'll probably happen a way that it almost did in Canada's Quebec! Frankly everything you have said so far has been ridiculous.What's ridiculous?
Is it that 49.42% of French-Canadians voted to secede from Canada and form a new country in 1995?
So? You gonna shoot em'?I guess not, if they leave me alone.
[QUOTE="mmogoon"]LOLOL guns don't kill people, people kill people right guys??? wemhimExactly, reaching your arms out, choking a person to death for about 3 minutes and listening to them plead and choke isjust as simple as shooting someone by pulling a trigger, it's not like it's easier to kill someone with a gun.
...Everyone, pulling a trigger a couple of times at range is just as simple as engaging in CQB and choking someone for 3 minutes until death! :|
Guns should not be banned. Regulated perhaps, but not banned.
The_Ish
exactly....the laws should be made more strict!!
[QUOTE="swizz-the-gamer"] So I need a gun because?
reagan80_basic
Because the government's multi-culturalist policies are setting up conditions so that the UK will be a giant soccer (or football) stadium brawl, but with more fires.
Exactly, reaching your arms out, choking a person to death for about 3 minutes and listening to them plead and choke isjust as simple as shooting someone by pulling a trigger, it's not like it's easier to kill someone with a gun.[QUOTE="wemhim"][QUOTE="mmogoon"]LOLOL guns don't kill people, people kill people right guys??? Aznsilvrboy
...Everyone, pulling a trigger a couple of times at range is just as simple as engaging in CQB and choking someone for 3 minutes until death! :|
I was joking.[QUOTE="Aznsilvrboy"]Exactly, reaching your arms out, choking a person to death for about 3 minutes and listening to them plead and choke isjust as simple as shooting someone by pulling a trigger, it's not like it's easier to kill someone with a gun.[QUOTE="wemhim"][QUOTE="mmogoon"]LOLOL guns don't kill people, people kill people right guys??? wemhim
...Everyone, pulling a trigger a couple of times at range is just as simple as engaging in CQB and choking someone for 3 minutes until death! :|
I was joking.That sarcasm sure is hard to catch on the internet :P
[QUOTE="wemhim"][QUOTE="Aznsilvrboy"]Exactly, reaching your arms out, choking a person to death for about 3 minutes and listening to them plead and choke isjust as simple as shooting someone by pulling a trigger, it's not like it's easier to kill someone with a gun.[QUOTE="wemhim"][QUOTE="mmogoon"]LOLOL guns don't kill people, people kill people right guys??? Aznsilvrboy
...Everyone, pulling a trigger a couple of times at range is just as simple as engaging in CQB and choking someone for 3 minutes until death! :|
I was joking.That sarcasm sure is hard to catch on the internet :P
That's cool. But yeah, seriously, if someone plays a lot of Hitman Blood Money or Splinter Cell it may come off as easy, but in real life you gotta have some will power.[QUOTE="reagan80_basic"][QUOTE="swizz-the-gamer"] So I need a gun because?
bman784
Because the government's multi-culturalist policies are setting up conditions so that the UK will be a giant soccer (or football) stadium brawl, but with more fires.
No, I just vehemently oppose unrestricted immigration that is not conducive to assimilating the "new arrivals" and their progeny into our existing culture. At the current rate, they will change us more than we'll ever change them.
Other historical examples of countries with asymmetric ethno-cultural demographics resulting in instability include Iraq and Yugoslavia. Forgive me for not taking comfort with mere liberal platitudes about how "political correctness" will save us all.
no
as said before, criminals could still get guns via the black market...but innocents would abide by the law and be defenseless
not to mention the whole point of the second amendment is so that civilians would own the firearms necessary to overthrow the government in case it became tyrannical. it makes the government afraid of its people, as opposed to the other way around
limit guns
besides in 1776 we didnt have automatic weapons and people killing people but what will I kill my deer with
knife
Guns should not be banned. Regulated perhaps, but not banned.
The_Ish
Agreed, they should not be banned, it is a right to have guns, but they should make take more control on how it's distributed. They should tighten up the process in being cleared in receiving a gun.
Works in Japan, so sure.madmidnight
Not quite.
Japan's culture is very, very different. "Saving face", "honor", and "avoiding shame" are still important to them.
Their culture is extremely non-confrontational. They only have 1 law school and there are only about 25,000 lawyers in Japan. (America graduates 35,000 more lawyers every year)
They have a more patriarchal society where women tend to be more submissive to men.
Nah, they should continue to promote the gun crime they enjoy daily.SolidSnake35
guns dont kill people, people kill people. don't believe me??? put a gun on the table and see who it kills first. people are stupid and that is the only problem. banning guns wouldnt reduce gun crime, they would still be in circulation, especially in the black market, readily avaviable to criminals and other shady exchanges.
[QUOTE="The_Ish"]Guns should not be banned. Regulated perhaps, but not banned.
groovdafied
Agreed, they should not be banned, it is a right to have guns, but they should make take more control on how it's distributed. They should tighten up the process in being cleared in receiving a gun.
what exactly do you want them to do??? it's not like you can stop them anyways, lets say person A who is friends with person B buys a gun (who has a clean background) then gives the gun person B (who wouldn't be able to otherwise purchase a firearm). See, not exactly hard to get one.
limit guns
besides in 1776 we didnt have automatic weapons and people killing people but what will I kill my deer with
knife
coltscardfan
in 1776 we also didnt have as advanced medecine or medical knowledge or even technology for that matter. times change, but the people never will.
[QUOTE="bman784"][QUOTE="reagan80_basic"][QUOTE="swizz-the-gamer"] So I need a gun because?
reagan80_basic
Because the government's multi-culturalist policies are setting up conditions so that the UK will be a giant soccer (or football) stadium brawl, but with more fires.
No, I just vehemently oppose unrestricted immigration that is not conducive to assimilating the "new arrivals" and their progeny into our existing culture. At the current rate, they will change us more than we'll ever change them.
Other historical examples of countries with asymmetric ethno-cultural demographics resulting in instability include Iraq and Yugoslavia. Forgive me for not taking comfort with mere liberal platitudes about how "political correctness" will save us all.
tell that to bush.
[QUOTE="Aznsilvrboy"][QUOTE="wemhim"][QUOTE="Aznsilvrboy"]Exactly, reaching your arms out, choking a person to death for about 3 minutes and listening to them plead and choke isjust as simple as shooting someone by pulling a trigger, it's not like it's easier to kill someone with a gun.[QUOTE="wemhim"][QUOTE="mmogoon"]LOLOL guns don't kill people, people kill people right guys??? wemhim
...Everyone, pulling a trigger a couple of times at range is just as simple as engaging in CQB and choking someone for 3 minutes until death! :|
I was joking.That sarcasm sure is hard to catch on the internet :P
That's cool. But yeah, seriously, if someone plays a lot of Hitman Blood Money or Splinter Cell it may come off as easy, but in real life you gotta have some will power.i dont think a lot of people (especially those who haven't used guns in real life) realize it's not as easy as on the games..........plus you alos have to have the knowledge on how to perform said moves. I'ts not like after playing splinter cell i could just go up behind my mom and knock her out with a slight move of my hand.
[QUOTE="wemhim"][QUOTE="Aznsilvrboy"][QUOTE="wemhim"][QUOTE="Aznsilvrboy"]Exactly, reaching your arms out, choking a person to death for about 3 minutes and listening to them plead and choke isjust as simple as shooting someone by pulling a trigger, it's not like it's easier to kill someone with a gun.[QUOTE="wemhim"][QUOTE="mmogoon"]LOLOL guns don't kill people, people kill people right guys??? firebreathing
...Everyone, pulling a trigger a couple of times at range is just as simple as engaging in CQB and choking someone for 3 minutes until death! :|
I was joking.That sarcasm sure is hard to catch on the internet :P
That's cool. But yeah, seriously, if someone plays a lot of Hitman Blood Money or Splinter Cell it may come off as easy, but in real life you gotta have some will power.i dont think a lot of people (especially those who haven't used guns in real life) realize it's not as easy as on the games..........plus you alos have to have the knowledge on how to perform said moves. I'ts not like after playing splinter cell i could just go up behind my mom and knock her out with a slight move of my hand.
Yeah, you gotta really really get in there. With guns you just snuff em out. One trigger pull, choking someone, or beating someone, to death is like pulling a trigger one hundred times.Hell no. They are taking away the second amendment. The right to bear arms, anyway if they did, they would never touch any of my guns, or my bows for any matter. They shouldnt ban any kind of guns. kool-aids
I wonder if the second amendment was never included in the bill of rights, would you be fighting for it to be included, because all I've seen in this thread is "no way, it is my right".
[QUOTE="kool-aids"]Hell no. They are taking away the second amendment. The right to bear arms, anyway if they did, they would never touch any of my guns, or my bows for any matter. They shouldnt ban any kind of guns. KG86
I wonder if the second amendment was never included in the bill of rights, would you be fighting for it to be included, because all I've seen in this thread is "no way, it is my right".
Why ban something that doesnt hurt anyone. Should we take your right away to live?
[QUOTE="KG86"][QUOTE="kool-aids"]Hell no. They are taking away the second amendment. The right to bear arms, anyway if they did, they would never touch any of my guns, or my bows for any matter. They shouldnt ban any kind of guns. kool-aids
I wonder if the second amendment was never included in the bill of rights, would you be fighting for it to be included, because all I've seen in this thread is "no way, it is my right".
Why ban something that doesnt hurt anyone. Should we take your right away to live?
Read my post again, I said if the 2nd didn't exist, would you be fighting for it to be included, or are you just defending it because it's in the bill of rights.
[QUOTE="kool-aids"][QUOTE="KG86"][QUOTE="kool-aids"]Hell no. They are taking away the second amendment. The right to bear arms, anyway if they did, they would never touch any of my guns, or my bows for any matter. They shouldnt ban any kind of guns. KG86
I wonder if the second amendment was never included in the bill of rights, would you be fighting for it to be included, because all I've seen in this thread is "no way, it is my right".
Why ban something that doesnt hurt anyone. Should we take your right away to live?
Read my post again, I said if the 2nd didn't exist, would you be fighting for it to be included, or are you just defending it because it's in the bill of rights.
Oh, im sorry then.
Umm, yes, I would still fight for it, because I love to hunt, and shoot guns and bows.
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