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#51 shoeman12
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it shouldn't be legal.
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#52 Dracargen
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then you should kno that not all people are alike. people should do what works for them. so if its working for you then great keep it up just dont speak as a majority. and also how old are you? and i cant forsee anyone taking over forty medications for depression or anxiety. i am also diagnosedwith insomnia and i do feel how you feel. but i rly dont understand how if you have never tried even a small amount of marijuana you are aware of the effects it can have on people. honestly it helps me sleep depending on how much i consume, it helps me be able to go to walmart without haveing the anxiety to where i feel like ripping some ones face off.

IxDRAILxI

If you actually need marijuana to stop you from ripping someone's face off, then isn't that a bit of a sign that you need to see a psychiatrist?:|

As for the effects of marijauna, I know more about its effects than most of its users. . . .so don't even act like I have no idea what I'm talking about.

The forty drugs are real, but they aren't all for depression and anxiety. . . .some are for blood pressure and other things.

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for the love of God, when was the last time you herd of someone being prescribed any of these.... either way the the profit from these industries would be a tiny fraction of what it was.... then add all the lost taxes, then add all the lost industry that benefited from these industries, then add all the extra police hours/money spend to control these substances, then add all the criminals that would pop up from making them illegal........

long story short you are advocating the destruction of America......

PS read a history book... pay close attention to the chapter labeled "Prohibition"..

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#54 Dracargen
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Victimless "crimes" are a waste of tax dollars. .foxhound_fox

Indeed.

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#55 IxDRAILxI
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[QUOTE="Dracargen"][QUOTE="IxDRAILxI"]

[QUOTE="sonicare"]First of all, antidepressants are far better at what they do than marijuana. Same for pain killers. Marijuana does not inhibit pain or improve depressed moods. Whether or not marijuana should be legal is not based on its medical uses. Most people I know that use marijuana are not using it to treat glaucoma. They use it to get high/euphoric. That's its main use. Argue over that not some hyped up medical benefits.Insane00

actually before you come to conclude that your 100% correct i am a diagnosed manic depressive and i have tried multiple drugs including prozac, zoloft and even risperdal all of them i have been taking the most i can take with out being illegal (yes i am prescribed them from my psychiatrist) and since i have actually experience what it is like to be depressed and at a level so high with anxiety i have almost have been taken to a psychological hospital. and i can say marijuana is the best cure for my problems. so unlike you i can say i know what I'm talking about

Really?

I'm also diagnosed with depression, I have been to see two psychiatrists and a psychologist, I have insomnia, I have several panic disorders, I'm currently seeing the second therapist I have had to see, and I've been prescribed with Xanax, Zoloft, Rozerem, Ambien, Lorazepam, and several other antidepressants and anti -anxiety pills.. I have never used pot in my life, nor has my mother, who is on more than twenty medications, most of them for depression and anxiety, nor has my grandmother, who is on over forty medications, nor has my grandfather.

I have had panic attacks at a level so high that I once thought I was having a heart attack. My sleeping used to be so bad that I would be up all night just laying there, or I would fall asleep and wake up with a panic attack every few minutes all night long.

I seem to be getting by just fine without pot. Though I might take it if it was prescribed for me.

From your medical history, pot would probably be more counter productive than actually help you. I'm not sure how a drug that makes people really paranoid would help someone with anxiety/panic attacks.

insane88 im not saying your wrong but marijuana has different effects on everyone for example whe i first started smoking probly about a year ago i was paranoid ill be honest, but now it sooths me. and drac i can say that a lage amount of people do smoke weed becuase it relaxes them but you wouldnt know because you are not experienced with marijuana
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#56 Insane00
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then you should kno that not all people are alike. people should do what works for them. so if its working for you then great keep it up just dont speak as a majority. and also how old are you? and i cant forsee anyone taking over forty medications for depression or anxiety. i am also diagnosedwith insomnia and i do feel how you feel. but i rly dont understand how if you have never tried even a small amount of marijuana you are aware of the effects it can have on people. honestly it helps me sleep depending on how much i consume, it helps me be able to go to walmart without haveing the anxiety to where i feel like ripping some ones face off.

IxDRAILxI

Indeed, again well put.

And I thought that I was the only one that felt that way at Walmart (which is why I don't go).

Indeed that medication list looks like something out of the life of someone with a life threatening condition like cancer, not someone that has a hard time dealing with life and people.

Though I still think the issues most important here is the agregious amount of money this country spends trying to enforce the anti-drug laws as well as the freedom we are not allowing people to have concerning this substance. If we are so willing to allow drugs that kill millions of people a year (I'm looking at you tobacco and Alcohol) to be legal, why not a drug that is less addictive and has yet to be directly linked as the cause to a single death such as canibus.

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for the love of God, when was the last time you herd of someone being prescribed any of these.... either way the the profit from these industries would be a tiny fraction of what it was.... then add all the lost taxes, then add all the lost industry that benefited from these industries, then add all the extra police hours/money spend to control these substances, then add all the criminals that would pop up from making them illegal........

long story short you are advocating the destruction of America......

PS read a history book... pay close attention to the chapter labeled "Prohibition"..

killtactics

Psst. I said keep it legal for medicine. That would not destroy the industries. Pay attention.

All three of those are prescribed fairly frequently. . . .besides, do you honestly think that some dumbasses won't go off and get a fake prescription for them? Like they totally don't do now?

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#58 killtactics
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[QUOTE="IxDRAILxI"]

then you should kno that not all people are alike. people should do what works for them. so if its working for you then great keep it up just dont speak as a majority. and also how old are you? and i cant forsee anyone taking over forty medications for depression or anxiety. i am also diagnosedwith insomnia and i do feel how you feel. but i rly dont understand how if you have never tried even a small amount of marijuana you are aware of the effects it can have on people. honestly it helps me sleep depending on how much i consume, it helps me be able to go to walmart without haveing the anxiety to where i feel like ripping some ones face off.

Dracargen

If you actually need marijuana to stop you from ripping someone's face off, then isn't that a bit of a sign that you need to see a psychiatrist?:|

As for the effects of marijauna, I know more about its effects than most of its users. . . .so don't even act like I have no idea what I'm talking about.

The forty drugs are real, but they aren't all for depression and anxiety. . . .some are for blood pressure and other things.

You know more about its effects then people who actually felt it? wow presumptive much?
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#59 Palax
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[QUOTE="IxDRAILxI"]

then you should kno that not all people are alike. people should do what works for them. so if its working for you then great keep it up just dont speak as a majority. and also how old are you? and i cant forsee anyone taking over forty medications for depression or anxiety. i am also diagnosedwith insomnia and i do feel how you feel. but i rly dont understand how if you have never tried even a small amount of marijuana you are aware of the effects it can have on people. honestly it helps me sleep depending on how much i consume, it helps me be able to go to walmart without haveing the anxiety to where i feel like ripping some ones face off.

Dracargen

If you actually need marijuana to stop you from ripping someone's face off, then isn't that a bit of a sign that you need to see a psychiatrist?:|

As for the effects of marijauna, I know more about its effects than most of its users. . . .so don't even act like I have no idea what I'm talking about.

The forty drugs are real, but they aren't all for depression and anxiety. . . .some are for blood pressure and other things.

I'm sorry but if you have never used Marijuana then no you don't know as much about the effects of Marijuana as people who have had first hand experiences with it. Drugs affect everyone differently. Look at your prescription meds...Theres a list of side effects that affect some people and not others.

Your getting pretty pathetic Dracargen....

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Dracargen, you may not realize this, but putting all those chemicals in your body are way more harmful to your health than the drugs you chastize could ever be. Funny enough, cannabis actually works for every single symptom you stated you have. One little non-toxic herb could replace all those destructive, poisonous synthetics. Why wouldn't you? Your health would definately take an upswing, I guarantee.

And the person who said cannabis causes anxiety, therefore it wouldn't be good for people with panic attacks....it tends to have the opposite effect on people who already have panic attacks. It calms. Cannabis has been used to treat anxiety. In fact, that's one of it's commonly listed uses. I personally know it works that way too.

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#61 Dracargen
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and drac i can say that a lage amount of people do smoke weed becuase it relaxes them but you wouldnt know because you are not experienced with marijuana IxDRAILxI

No, because I have all these other activities to help. Like biking. :|

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#62 Insane00
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insane88 im not saying your wrong but marijuana has different effects on everyone for example whe i first started smoking probly about a year ago i was paranoid ill be honest, but now it sooths me. and drac i can say that a lage amount of people do smoke weed becuase it relaxes them but you wouldnt know because you are not experienced with marijuana IxDRAILxI

That would be insane00.

Yea, your right, every experience differs that's why I said probably. But I have always found that if I am high I am also a little paranoid, no matter what. I recently quit for a while and when I tried the experience again, I was REALLY paranoid. Darc though is so against this stuff that I really think it would be bad for him. Personally, taking the amount of medications he says he and the rest of his family are on would make me ill and I'd rather just get high if I had to deal with some sort of mental issue. However at the same time, if my mind were that screwed up I might be a little worried where altering my state of perception through canibus might take me.

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You know more about its effects then people who actually felt it? wow presumptive much?killtactics

Exactly. Who would know more? The one with the actual experience, or the one who read the negative propoganda?

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#64 IxDRAILxI
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[QUOTE="IxDRAILxI"]

then you should kno that not all people are alike. people should do what works for them. so if its working for you then great keep it up just dont speak as a majority. and also how old are you? and i cant forsee anyone taking over forty medications for depression or anxiety. i am also diagnosedwith insomnia and i do feel how you feel. but i rly dont understand how if you have never tried even a small amount of marijuana you are aware of the effects it can have on people. honestly it helps me sleep depending on how much i consume, it helps me be able to go to walmart without haveing the anxiety to where i feel like ripping some ones face off.

Dracargen

If you actually need marijuana to stop you from ripping someone's face off, then isn't that a bit of a sign that you need to see a psychiatrist?:|

As for the effects of marijauna, I know more about its effects than most of its users. . . .so don't even act like I have no idea what I'm talking about.

The forty drugs are real, but they aren't all for depression and anxiety. . . .some are for blood pressure and other things.

now i see why everyone is attacking you do you read much? i ve already stated i see a psychiatrist for these reasons. and i can tell you that you dont know what your talking about. how can you tel yourself you know about somthing when you are not even a little experienced in that field? do i smell ignorance???? and just so you know i dont need a f894ing psychiatrist or psychologist to tell me whats wrong with me im fully aware. why would i take anti-deppresants and anti-psychotics if they dont work on my body when i could just use cannibus? ytour argument is over you obviuosly dont kno wha your talking about

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#65 Dracargen
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[QUOTE="Dracargen"][QUOTE="IxDRAILxI"]

then you should kno that not all people are alike. people should do what works for them. so if its working for you then great keep it up just dont speak as a majority. and also how old are you? and i cant forsee anyone taking over forty medications for depression or anxiety. i am also diagnosedwith insomnia and i do feel how you feel. but i rly dont understand how if you have never tried even a small amount of marijuana you are aware of the effects it can have on people. honestly it helps me sleep depending on how much i consume, it helps me be able to go to walmart without haveing the anxiety to where i feel like ripping some ones face off.

killtactics

If you actually need marijuana to stop you from ripping someone's face off, then isn't that a bit of a sign that you need to see a psychiatrist?:|

As for the effects of marijauna, I know more about its effects than most of its users. . . .so don't even act like I have no idea what I'm talking about.

The forty drugs are real, but they aren't all for depression and anxiety. . . .some are for blood pressure and other things.

You know more about its effects then people who actually felt it? wow presumptive much?

Yeah, what do I know? I only major in psychology and neuroscience and dissect brains and watch therapy appointments with drug users. How presumptive of me.

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[QUOTE="IxDRAILxI"] and drac i can say that a lage amount of people do smoke weed becuase it relaxes them but you wouldnt know because you are not experienced with marijuana Dracargen

No, because I have all these other activities to help. Like biking. :|

And I would say that cycling or even any form of athletics is a much better release than any drug could ever be. Good for you. Yet I also know a number of athelete that have enjoyed the herb every now and again so that isn't necessarily a universal caveate for how people relax or enjoy themselves.

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#67 Dracargen
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[QUOTE="Dracargen"][QUOTE="IxDRAILxI"]

then you should kno that not all people are alike. people should do what works for them. so if its working for you then great keep it up just dont speak as a majority. and also how old are you? and i cant forsee anyone taking over forty medications for depression or anxiety. i am also diagnosedwith insomnia and i do feel how you feel. but i rly dont understand how if you have never tried even a small amount of marijuana you are aware of the effects it can have on people. honestly it helps me sleep depending on how much i consume, it helps me be able to go to walmart without haveing the anxiety to where i feel like ripping some ones face off.

IxDRAILxI

If you actually need marijuana to stop you from ripping someone's face off, then isn't that a bit of a sign that you need to see a psychiatrist?:|

As for the effects of marijauna, I know more about its effects than most of its users. . . .so don't even act like I have no idea what I'm talking about.

The forty drugs are real, but they aren't all for depression and anxiety. . . .some are for blood pressure and other things.

now i see why everyone is attacking you do you read much? i ve already stated i see a psychiatrist for these reasons. and i can tell you that you dont know what your talking about. how can you tel yourself you know about somthing when you are not even a little experienced in that field? do i smell ignorance???? and just so you know i dont need a f894ing psychiatrist or psychologist to tell me whats wrong with me im fully aware. why would i take anti-deppresants and anti-psychotics if they dont work on my body when i could just use cannibus? ytour argument is over you obviuosly dont kno wha your talking about

I have no problem with it being used as medicine as long as it's prescribed.:|

Please, don't say I have no idea what I'm talking about when only one of us knows how to spell the word "know." :roll:

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no..it shouldnt look at the trouble Holland is having and youll know
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Yes I mean look at what happened when the U.S tried to ban alcohol. The problem got a whole lot worse. When they legalized it then things got back to normal. If marijuana becomes legal then you won't see people doing crazy things to keep it under the radar.
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[QUOTE="Dracargen"]

[QUOTE="IxDRAILxI"] and drac i can say that a lage amount of people do smoke weed becuase it relaxes them but you wouldnt know because you are not experienced with marijuana Insane00

No, because I have all these other activities to help. Like biking. :|

And I would say that cycling or even any form of athletics is a much better release than any drug could ever be. Good for you. Yet I also know a number of athelete that have enjoyed the herb every now and again so that isn't necessarily a universal caveate for how people relax or enjoy themselves.

I know some athletes who used steroids and got some negative feedback for it. You should protest this obvious violation of their rights.

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for the love of God, when was the last time you herd of someone being prescribed any of these.... either way the the profit from these industries would be a tiny fraction of what it was.... then add all the lost taxes, then add all the lost industry that benefited from these industries, then add all the extra police hours/money spend to control these substances, then add all the criminals that would pop up from making them illegal........

long story short you are advocating the destruction of America......

PS read a history book... pay close attention to the chapter labeled "Prohibition"..

Dracargen

Psst. I said keep it legal for medicine. That would not destroy the industries. Pay attention.

All three of those are prescribed fairly frequently. . . .besides, do you honestly think that some dumbasses won't go off and get a fake prescription for them? Like they totally don't do now?

frequently enough to make up for the billions of dollars it wont make? also nicotine/caffeine can be made in a lab...

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no..it shouldnt look at the trouble Holland is having and youll knowhonkyjoe

Holland has a problem?

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Yes I mean look at what happened when the U.S tried to ban alcohol. The problem got a whole lot worse. When they legalized it then things got back to normal. If marijuana becomes legal then you won't see people doing crazy things to keep it under the radar.Somebody89

I don't call millions of drunk driving accidents per year "normal."

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[QUOTE="killtactics"][QUOTE="Dracargen"][QUOTE="IxDRAILxI"]

then you should kno that not all people are alike. people should do what works for them. so if its working for you then great keep it up just dont speak as a majority. and also how old are you? and i cant forsee anyone taking over forty medications for depression or anxiety. i am also diagnosedwith insomnia and i do feel how you feel. but i rly dont understand how if you have never tried even a small amount of marijuana you are aware of the effects it can have on people. honestly it helps me sleep depending on how much i consume, it helps me be able to go to walmart without haveing the anxiety to where i feel like ripping some ones face off.

Dracargen

If you actually need marijuana to stop you from ripping someone's face off, then isn't that a bit of a sign that you need to see a psychiatrist?:|

As for the effects of marijauna, I know more about its effects than most of its users. . . .so don't even act like I have no idea what I'm talking about.

The forty drugs are real, but they aren't all for depression and anxiety. . . .some are for blood pressure and other things.

You know more about its effects then people who actually felt it? wow presumptive much?

Yeah, what do I know? I only major in psychology and neuroscience and dissect brains and watch therapy appointments with drug users. How presumptive of me.

Your profile says your 18. At best you have 1 year at university which leaves little time to fully explore your major. So tell us what college your majoring in Psychology at.

Either way....you can dissect brains all you want, but in the end studying won't replace first hand experience.

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[QUOTE="Insane00"][QUOTE="Dracargen"]

[QUOTE="IxDRAILxI"] and drac i can say that a lage amount of people do smoke weed becuase it relaxes them but you wouldnt know because you are not experienced with marijuana Dracargen

No, because I have all these other activities to help. Like biking. :|

And I would say that cycling or even any form of athletics is a much better release than any drug could ever be. Good for you. Yet I also know a number of athelete that have enjoyed the herb every now and again so that isn't necessarily a universal caveate for how people relax or enjoy themselves.

I know some athletes who used steroids and got some negative feedback for it. You should protest this obvious violation of their rights.

It's not the same, that's in the name of sport.

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[QUOTE="Somebody89"]Yes I mean look at what happened when the U.S tried to ban alcohol. The problem got a whole lot worse. When they legalized it then things got back to normal. If marijuana becomes legal then you won't see people doing crazy things to keep it under the radar.Dracargen

I don't call millions of drunk driving accidents per year "normal."

And do you really think that those accidents would go away if prohibition were reinstituted?
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no..it shouldnt look at the trouble Holland is having and youll knowhonkyjoe

Cannabis is legal in California pretty much. Anyone can get a medical marijuana card and have access to the shops as long as they are over 18. there are over 250,000 patients. It's been going on for over 10 years. Nothing the opposers said would happen, has happened. (Crime, mass amounts of lazy people, etc.)

The medical marijuana industry in California has proven all the naysayers wrong. It's exactly what the government was afraid of.

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[QUOTE="killtactics"][QUOTE="Dracargen"][QUOTE="IxDRAILxI"]

then you should kno that not all people are alike. people should do what works for them. so if its working for you then great keep it up just dont speak as a majority. and also how old are you? and i cant forsee anyone taking over forty medications for depression or anxiety. i am also diagnosedwith insomnia and i do feel how you feel. but i rly dont understand how if you have never tried even a small amount of marijuana you are aware of the effects it can have on people. honestly it helps me sleep depending on how much i consume, it helps me be able to go to walmart without haveing the anxiety to where i feel like ripping some ones face off.

Dracargen

If you actually need marijuana to stop you from ripping someone's face off, then isn't that a bit of a sign that you need to see a psychiatrist?:|

As for the effects of marijauna, I know more about its effects than most of its users. . . .so don't even act like I have no idea what I'm talking about.

The forty drugs are real, but they aren't all for depression and anxiety. . . .some are for blood pressure and other things.

You know more about its effects then people who actually felt it? wow presumptive much?

Yeah, what do I know? I only major in psychology and neuroscience and dissect brains and watch therapy appointments with drug users. How presumptive of me.

your right... i watched a chess master play chess once.... i knew exactly what he was thinking....
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[QUOTE="Dracargen"][QUOTE="killtactics"]

for the love of God, when was the last time you herd of someone being prescribed any of these.... either way the the profit from these industries would be a tiny fraction of what it was.... then add all the lost taxes, then add all the lost industry that benefited from these industries, then add all the extra police hours/money spend to control these substances, then add all the criminals that would pop up from making them illegal........

long story short you are advocating the destruction of America......

PS read a history book... pay close attention to the chapter labeled "Prohibition"..

killtactics

Psst. I said keep it legal for medicine. That would not destroy the industries. Pay attention.

All three of those are prescribed fairly frequently. . . .besides, do you honestly think that some dumbasses won't go off and get a fake prescription for them? Like they totally don't do now?

frequently enough to make up for the billions of dollars it wont make? also nicotine/caffeine can be made in a lab...

You mean the billions of dollars it makes from taxpayers? You talk about how a war on drugs is a waste of taxpayer money; why the hell am I paying taxes for tobacco, alcohol, and now people want me to pay for their weed? Why don't I just go and give someone money and say "here's some cash; go kill youself.":roll:

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[QUOTE="Dracargen"]

[QUOTE="Somebody89"]Yes I mean look at what happened when the U.S tried to ban alcohol. The problem got a whole lot worse. When they legalized it then things got back to normal. If marijuana becomes legal then you won't see people doing crazy things to keep it under the radar.famicommander

I don't call millions of drunk driving accidents per year "normal."

And do you really think that those accidents would go away if prohibition were reinstituted?


Another case of blaming the object used to commit the crime and not the person committing it.
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#81 IxDRAILxI
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[QUOTE="IxDRAILxI"][QUOTE="Dracargen"][QUOTE="IxDRAILxI"]

then you should kno that not all people are alike. people should do what works for them. so if its working for you then great keep it up just dont speak as a majority. and also how old are you? and i cant forsee anyone taking over forty medications for depression or anxiety. i am also diagnosedwith insomnia and i do feel how you feel. but i rly dont understand how if you have never tried even a small amount of marijuana you are aware of the effects it can have on people. honestly it helps me sleep depending on how much i consume, it helps me be able to go to walmart without haveing the anxiety to where i feel like ripping some ones face off.

Dracargen

If you actually need marijuana to stop you from ripping someone's face off, then isn't that a bit of a sign that you need to see a psychiatrist?:|

As for the effects of marijauna, I know more about its effects than most of its users. . . .so don't even act like I have no idea what I'm talking about.

The forty drugs are real, but they aren't all for depression and anxiety. . . .some are for blood pressure and other things.

now i see why everyone is attacking you do you read much? i ve already stated i see a psychiatrist for these reasons. and i can tell you that you dont know what your talking about. how can you tel yourself you know about somthing when you are not even a little experienced in that field? do i smell ignorance???? and just so you know i dont need a f894ing psychiatrist or psychologist to tell me whats wrong with me im fully aware. why would i take anti-deppresants and anti-psychotics if they dont work on my body when i could just use cannibus? ytour argument is over you obviuosly dont kno wha your talking about

I have no problem with it being used as medicine as long as it's prescribed.:|

Please, don't say I have no idea what I'm talking about when only one of us knows how to spell the word "know." :roll:

omg here we go with the ignorance again. why do smartasses like you always resort to lower ones self esteem by attacking the way one types?? as long as you can understand what i am saying you shouldnt judge someone by the way they type. thats like making fun of some one for there acsent dude just ge out of the thread our only proving yourself to be a ignorant piece of trash that needs to raise his self eteem by lowering others grow up!
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#82 Insane00
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Dracargen, you may not realize this, but putting all those chemicals in your body are way more harmful to your health than the drugs you chastize could ever be. Funny enough, cannabis actually works for every single symptom you stated you have. One little non-toxic herb could replace all those destructive, poisonous synthetics. Why wouldn't you? Your health would definately take an upswing, I guarantee.

And the person who said cannabis causes anxiety, therefore it wouldn't be good for people with panic attacks....it tends to have the opposite effect on people who already have panic attacks. It calms. Cannabis has been used to treat anxiety. In fact, that's one of it's commonly listed uses. I personally know it works that way too.

Deity_Slapper

That was specifically meant for Drac, not anyone else. He is scared of the stuff and already paranoid about the effects it would have on him. I have met a number of people that aren't really comfortable with the stuff and they all really freaked out when then got high. I personally can be quite anxious (used to have crazy night terrors and such) but pot has never posed a problem, though I do notice it can make me a little lazy (yea ther is slight paranoia, but that doesn't really bother me).

Either way, I'm sure that the stuff can work for a lot of people. I know one dude that is paranoid schizophrenic, sees things and stuff, but pot helps calm him down. As others have said to me already, and as I agree, each individual case is just that, individual and our ability to predict the effects of pot on a person are limited by our knowledge about their personality.

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#83 Dracargen
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your right... i watched a chess master play chess once.... i knew exactly what he was thinking....killtactics

And I'm sure that chessmaster talks to you and several others every day about how he does it, and puts you in similar situations so that you can have the experience to know how he plays as well, right?

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Definitely. Personally, I believe it would be legal if it weren't for the fact that A) It's hard to tax and regulate, due to the fact that it's easily grown at home, and B) The government gets money from trials, court fees, etc. from bringing in users.

IMO, weed isn't nearly as harmful as alcohol, so it should be legal if alcohol is. Until they prohibit alcohol, they should permit weed :P

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[QUOTE="famicommander"][QUOTE="Dracargen"]

[QUOTE="Somebody89"]Yes I mean look at what happened when the U.S tried to ban alcohol. The problem got a whole lot worse. When they legalized it then things got back to normal. If marijuana becomes legal then you won't see people doing crazy things to keep it under the radar.foxhound_fox

I don't call millions of drunk driving accidents per year "normal."

And do you really think that those accidents would go away if prohibition were reinstituted?


Another case of blaming the object used to commit the crime and not the person committing it.

Personal accountability is becoming more and more of a rarity these days.
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it shouldn't be because many will abuse using it..even the kids will be getting exposed to it..
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#87 Dracargen
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omg here we go with the ignorance again. why do smartasses like you always resort to lower ones self esteem by attacking the way one types?? as long as you can understand what i am saying you shouldnt judge someone by the way they type. thats like making fun of some one for there acsent dude just ge out of the thread our only proving yourself to be a ignorant piece of trash that needs to raise his self eteem by lowering others grow up!IxDRAILxI

You're telling me to grow up when you can't even use a goddamn comma?:lol:

People learn to spell and write at the age of four. I assume you're older than that? If not, I apologize.:roll:

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[QUOTE="killtactics"][QUOTE="Dracargen"][QUOTE="killtactics"]

for the love of God, when was the last time you herd of someone being prescribed any of these.... either way the the profit from these industries would be a tiny fraction of what it was.... then add all the lost taxes, then add all the lost industry that benefited from these industries, then add all the extra police hours/money spend to control these substances, then add all the criminals that would pop up from making them illegal........

long story short you are advocating the destruction of America......

PS read a history book... pay close attention to the chapter labeled "Prohibition"..

Dracargen

Psst. I said keep it legal for medicine. That would not destroy the industries. Pay attention.

All three of those are prescribed fairly frequently. . . .besides, do you honestly think that some dumbasses won't go off and get a fake prescription for them? Like they totally don't do now?

frequently enough to make up for the billions of dollars it wont make? also nicotine/caffeine can be made in a lab...

You mean the billions of dollars it makes from taxpayers? You talk about how a war on drugs is a waste of taxpayer money; why the hell am I paying taxes for tobacco, alcohol, and now people want me to pay for their weed? Why don't I just go and give someone money and say "here's some cash; go kill youself.":roll:

How do you pay for tobacco and alcohol? how would you pay for other peoples weed?
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Nope, We have enough guys trying too act cool.
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it shouldn't be because many will abuse using it..even the kids will be getting exposed to it..SkyFlakez

California proves this wrong. All the fears people had about cannabis being legal have already been disproven in places like California and Amsterdam where cannabis consumption is high, yet productivity has not dropped, and crime has not risen.

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#91 Dracargen
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[QUOTE="Dracargen"]

[QUOTE="Somebody89"]Yes I mean look at what happened when the U.S tried to ban alcohol. The problem got a whole lot worse. When they legalized it then things got back to normal. If marijuana becomes legal then you won't see people doing crazy things to keep it under the radar.famicommander

I don't call millions of drunk driving accidents per year "normal."

And do you really think that those accidents would go away if prohibition were reinstituted?

No. I think they would go down.

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#92 IxDRAILxI
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[QUOTE="killtactics"][QUOTE="Dracargen"][QUOTE="killtactics"]

for the love of God, when was the last time you herd of someone being prescribed any of these.... either way the the profit from these industries would be a tiny fraction of what it was.... then add all the lost taxes, then add all the lost industry that benefited from these industries, then add all the extra police hours/money spend to control these substances, then add all the criminals that would pop up from making them illegal........

long story short you are advocating the destruction of America......

PS read a history book... pay close attention to the chapter labeled "Prohibition"..

Dracargen

Psst. I said keep it legal for medicine. That would not destroy the industries. Pay attention.

All three of those are prescribed fairly frequently. . . .besides, do you honestly think that some dumbasses won't go off and get a fake prescription for them? Like they totally don't do now?

frequently enough to make up for the billions of dollars it wont make? also nicotine/caffeine can be made in a lab...

You mean the billions of dollars it makes from taxpayers? You talk about how a war on drugs is a waste of taxpayer money; why the hell am I paying taxes for tobacco, alcohol, and now people want me to pay for their weed? Why don't I just go and give someone money and say "here's some cash; go kill youself.":roll:

omg here we go again ur ignorance is blinding you. weed is not killing people. ignorant politicians who fight to keep it illegal dont understand the crime rate would go down at such a dramatic rate if bud was legal. you have one of the weakest philosophy's i have ever seen
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[QUOTE="famicommander"][QUOTE="Dracargen"]

[QUOTE="Somebody89"]Yes I mean look at what happened when the U.S tried to ban alcohol. The problem got a whole lot worse. When they legalized it then things got back to normal. If marijuana becomes legal then you won't see people doing crazy things to keep it under the radar.Dracargen

I don't call millions of drunk driving accidents per year "normal."

And do you really think that those accidents would go away if prohibition were reinstituted?

No. I think they would go down.

Alcohol use didn't go down during prohibition. All prohibition did was lead to the rise of organized crime. So now you have drunk drivers and more gangsters.
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#94 Dracargen
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How do you pay for tobacco and alcohol? how would you pay for other peoples weed?killtactics

What is it you people keep talking about? Let's tax it, let's tax it, things will be better if we tax it? We already tax alcohol and tobacco (in fact, one complaint is that the taxes for those things are too high), and now we want to raise taxes on weed.

I suppose then I'll be paying for the druggie's trip to the hospital when he drinks and dopes at the same time.

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The government has no business telling private citizens what they can and can't put in to their own bodies. People should be free to do as many drugs as they want, as long as their use doesn't lead to violation of anyone else's rights.
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#96 Dracargen
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[QUOTE="Dracargen"][QUOTE="famicommander"][QUOTE="Dracargen"]

[QUOTE="Somebody89"]Yes I mean look at what happened when the U.S tried to ban alcohol. The problem got a whole lot worse. When they legalized it then things got back to normal. If marijuana becomes legal then you won't see people doing crazy things to keep it under the radar.famicommander

I don't call millions of drunk driving accidents per year "normal."

And do you really think that those accidents would go away if prohibition were reinstituted?

No. I think they would go down.

Alcohol use didn't go down during prohibition. All prohibition did was lead to the rise of organized crime. So now you have drunk drivers and more gangsters.

I'm talking about drunk driving.

Making it legal didn't help with organized crime, either. We have plenty of criminals using pole dancing and tobacco as their source of money. Those are legal.

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[QUOTE="killtactics"]How do you pay for tobacco and alcohol? how would you pay for other peoples weed?Dracargen

What is it you people keep talking about? Let's tax it, let's tax it, things will be better if we tax it? We already tax alcohol and tobacco (in fact, one complaint is that the taxes for those things are too high), and now we want to raise taxes on weed.

I suppose then I'll be paying for the druggie's trip to the hospital when he drinks and dopes at the same time.

The tax will be on the sale of the goods themselves. You're only paying the tax if you're buying the items.
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Look, the fact is we have someone here who advocates Prohibition.... I think at this point you have to ask your self how fundamentally wrong someone can be before the point of debating with them ends.....
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#99 Deity_Slapper
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The government has no business telling private citizens what they can and can't put in to their own bodies. People should be free to do as many drugs as they want, as long as their use doesn't lead to violation of anyone else's rights.Rhazakna

I've felt this way since I was a child.

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[QUOTE="IxDRAILxI"]omg here we go with the ignorance again. why do smartasses like you always resort to lower ones self esteem by attacking the way one types?? as long as you can understand what i am saying you shouldnt judge someone by the way they type. thats like making fun of some one for there acsent dude just ge out of the thread our only proving yourself to be a ignorant piece of trash that needs to raise his self eteem by lowering others grow up!Dracargen

You're telling me to grow up when you can't even use a goddamn comma?:lol:

People learn to spell and write at the age of four. I assume you're older than that? If not, I apologize.:roll:

Amen. That annoys me to no end as well.