Are the dozen or so people who voted yes actually going to speak up?
Palantas
Probably not. Not seriously, anyway.
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Are the dozen or so people who voted yes actually going to speak up?
Palantas
Probably not. Not seriously, anyway.
No it won't. The criminals will just go somewhere else. >_>Well at least thieves now know which places to avoid. This may very well save lives.
Storm_Marine
More of a problem with the freedom of information act than with weapon licenses. Ace6301
I agree. I'm not sure how it works in the civilian world, but in the military we could classify certain things. At the very least, this information shouldn't be public record.
It's a violation of privacy but I don't think these people are really in danger though.
Rockman999
The cops like me are. We're not supposed to have our names and addresses published. Yet me and the 100 other cops in my department are all on there, if someone cared to look for us.
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It's a violation of privacy but I don't think these people are really in danger though.
airshocker
The cops like me are. We're not supposed to have our names and addresses published. Yet me and the 100 other cops in my department are all on there, if someone cared to look for us.
New Year's Resolution...find Airshocker.:P[QUOTE="theone86"]
I think everyone already knows you own a gun, Sherriff Joe.
airshocker
Most everyone doesn't know where I live, nor should they.
Yeah but they could just as easily look you up in a phone book or the white pages.[QUOTE="I"]
Are the dozen or so people who voted yes actually going to speak up?
airshocker
Probably not. Not seriously, anyway.
I should add, why limit it to pistol licenses? All the Lefties here are worried to death over assault rilfes (even though rifles are responsible for a tiny percentage of homicides).
Yeah but they could just as easily look you up in a phone book or the white pages.
Aljosa23
No, they can't. I'm unlisted because I'm a police officer.
I should add, why limit it to pistol licenses? All the Lefties here are worried to death over assault rilfes (even though rifles are responsible for a tiny percentage of homicides).
Palantas
Because, thankfully, in New York you don't need a license to own a rifle. It still takes the full wait period to go through NICS, though. Bastards.
[QUOTE="Rockman999"]
It's a violation of privacy but I don't think these people are really in danger though.
airshocker
The cops like me are. We're not supposed to have our names and addresses published. Yet me and the 100 other cops in my department are all on there, if someone cared to look for us.
Oh wow I thought it was just civilians on that list(I didn't read the linked article, read a similar one last night). Can't you guys force them to take that information down since it is endangering the lives of every officer on that list?I honestly don't see how anyone thought this could've been a good idea. The media is so messed up these days. They'll trade morals or common sense for a good story anyday.
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[QUOTE="Rockman999"]
It's a violation of privacy but I don't think these people are really in danger though.
Rockman999
The cops like me are. We're not supposed to have our names and addresses published. Yet me and the 100 other cops in my department are all on there, if someone cared to look for us.
Oh wow I thought it was just civilians on that list(I didn't read the linked article, read a similar one last night). Can't you guys force them to take that information down since it is endangering the lives of every officer on that list?It doesn't matter. The names are already out there.
I honestly don't see how anyone thought this could've been a good idea. The media is so messed up these days. They'll trade morals or common sense for a good story anyday.
It doesn't matter. The names are already out there.
Well, look on the bright side. According to airshocker, there are 20,000 licensed pistol owners in just one of those counties. It might be too late in this case, since the names are already out there, but at least we could destroy the ones responsible for this. I'd wager that the majority of those 20,000 people whose names and addresses were listed don't appreciate this. And I'd wager that this pisses off lots of other gun owners in other locations just on general principle. If those people all sent in letters promising to boycott that company and any companies associated with them, then someone's getting fired and no one's doing this thing ever again.[QUOTE="nooblet69"]stupid quote. It's not really....."Those who trade liberty for security deserve neither and will lose both" -Ben Franklin ... I'm pretty sure we've already passed the point of giving up our liberty / freedom.
Rich3232
[QUOTE="Rich3232"][QUOTE="nooblet69"]stupid quote. It's not really..... yes it is, unless you support anarchy. the very nature/idea of living in society means that we give up certain rights for the promise of more security."Those who trade liberty for security deserve neither and will lose both" -Ben Franklin ... I'm pretty sure we've already passed the point of giving up our liberty / freedom.
LJS9502_basic
[QUOTE="Netherscourge"]Why not?
Some people want to make the names and faces of abortion patients public.
May as well do it for gun owners too.SirWander
I agree
The bottom line is that people don't do this kind of thing if the consequences are too great. I'm sure they're pissing off a LOT of potential customers by doing this, they'll stop doing it if hurts their profits.Why not? Some people want to make the names and faces of abortion patients public. May as well do it for gun owners too.Netherscourge
Except it's against their will. For those who haven't committed a criminal act, they shouldn't have their privacy rights violated simply because they have a gun or an abortion.
Lives of the thieves. Now they know who probably doesn't have a gun.Well at least thieves now know which places to avoid. This may very well save lives.
Storm_Marine
[QUOTE="Storm_Marine"]Lives of the thieves. Now they know who probably doesn't have a gun. That's my point. They now know every unprotected home in those neighborhoods.....Well at least thieves now know which places to avoid. This may very well save lives.
fernandmondego_
It's always enjoyable to see a police officer's disdain for the first amendment.
htekemerald
Where did I show disdain for the first amendment?
i saw go for it...people will stop trying to break into my house if they know that im gonna put a .45 or a 12ga in their faces...
i saw go for it...people will stop trying to break into my house if they know that im gonna put a .45 or a 12ga in their faces...
lpjazzman220
This kind of attitude the worst kind of reckless. What if you aren't there and your family is there alone?
What the hell is the difference between that and spokeo,no one checking for you Bucked20
Spokeo doesn't tell anyone that your house has firearms in it.
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It's a violation of privacy but I don't think these people are really in danger though.
LJS9502_basic
The cops like me are. We're not supposed to have our names and addresses published. Yet me and the 100 other cops in my department are all on there, if someone cared to look for us.
New Year's Resolution...find Airshocker.:PLock and load.
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[QUOTE="Bucked20"]What the hell is the difference between that and spokeo,no one checking for you WhiteKnight77
Spokeo doesn't tell anyone that your house has firearms in it.
It tells how many people are their,the square footage,names of every person in that house and location,that's much worse[QUOTE="WhiteKnight77"][QUOTE="Bucked20"]What the hell is the difference between that and spokeo,no one checking for you Bucked20
Spokeo doesn't tell anyone that your house has firearms in it.
It tells how many people are their,the square footage,names of every person in that house and location,that's much worse Damn am I the only one who didn't know about this Spokeo? Seems like a much easier tool to stalk my exs with.[QUOTE="Bucked20"][QUOTE="WhiteKnight77"]It tells how many people are their,the square footage,names of every person in that house and location,that's much worse Damn am I the only one who didn't know about this Spokeo? Seems like a much easier tool to stalk my exs with.Spokeo doesn't tell anyone that your house has firearms in it.
DaJuicyMan
I wasn't aware of it. It certainly seems like it could create some potential problems.
[QUOTE="Palantas"]
I should add, why limit it to pistol licenses? All the Lefties here are worried to death over assault rilfes (even though rifles are responsible for a tiny percentage of homicides).
airshocker
Because, thankfully, in New York you don't need a license to own a rifle. It still takes the full wait period to go through NICS, though. Bastards.
Whats wrong with a wait period?
Whats wrong with a wait period?
TacticalDesire
Nothing is wrong with the idea of a wait period. I just have serious issues with how NICS hands them out. I've bought four firearms in my entire life. The first one in North Dakota, and the rest in New York. The first time I got my weapon instantly. The second time, I got it that same day, but the phone call was much longer. The last two times I was forced to wait five days. With NICS, if they don't get back to the dealer within five days, he is legally allowed to sell the weapon to me.
Every time I've tried to call NICS and ask them why it took so long, they've given me the run around, disconnected me, and generally just been very unhelpful. They say giving your social security number helps in obtaining instant NICS approval, but I've always given my SS number yet I've been forced to wait the full period twice, without any indication of why.
Logically, the first time you buy a weapon should be the time you are most scrutinized. That didn't happen with me, or with really anybody I've seen try and buy a weapon. It only happens after we've bought a few. I don't think there is a logical reason for it, which is why I don't particularly like NICS. Kind of like how I don't like the DMV very much.
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Whats wrong with a wait period?
airshocker
Nothing is wrong with the idea of a wait period. I just have serious issues with how NICS hands them out. I've bought four firearms in my entire life. The first one in North Dakota, and the rest in New York. The first time I got my weapon instantly. The second time, I got it that same day, but the phone call was much longer. The last two times I was forced to wait five days. With NICS, if they don't get back to the dealer within five days, he is legally allowed to sell the weapon to me.
Every time I've tried to call NICS and ask them why it took so long, they've given me the run around, disconnected me, and generally just been very unhelpful. They say giving your social security number helps in obtaining instant NICS approval, but I've always given my SS number yet I've been forced to wait the full period twice, without any indication of why.
Logically, the first time you buy a weapon should be the time you are most scrutinized. That didn't happen with me, or with really anybody I've seen try and buy a weapon. It only happens after we've bought a few. I don't think there is a logical reason for it, which is why I don't particularly like NICS. Kind of like how I don't like the DMV very much.
LOL. First world problem.[QUOTE="Storm_Marine"]
Well at least thieves now know which places to avoid. This may very well save lives.
airshocker
And now those who want to obtain guns illegally know which houses to rob.
If yours is in a crappy safe not bolted to the floor then yes. If you have no security system or dogs then yes.If yours is in a crappy safe not bolted to the floor then yes. If you have no security system or dogs then yes.
no-scope-AK47
My best form of protection was anonymity. Relying on the fact that nobody, except those I trust, knew what's even in my place of residence.
I'm not going to buy a six hundred dollar safe, nor am I going to spend thousands on a security system. I've always had a steel gun cabinet that's bolted to the floor and to the wall. and is hidden in my closet. Then I have a small gun vault bolted to my nightstand where I keep my duty weapon and my back-up
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If yours is in a crappy safe not bolted to the floor then yes. If you have no security system or dogs then yes.
airshocker
My best form of protection was anonymity. Relying on the fact that nobody, except those I trust, knew what's even in my place of residence.
I'm not going to buy a six hundred dollar safe, nor am I going to spend thousands on a security system. I've always had a steel gun cabinet that's bolted to the floor and to the wall. and is hidden in my closet. Then I have a small gun vault bolted to my nightstand where I keep my duty weapon and my back-up
I don't like it either but at least you have some security in place. Your a cop so you know that having a safe that has a poor fire rating and is not part of a security system is not smart. I have a pistol box next to my bed but the rest are secure.Please Log In to post.
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