I'm against it... Unless it's threatening to the mother. Seriously though, abortion is pretty gruesome. I mean the first thing they do is cut off the head so that whatever was growing inside is now dead... I think it's pretty sick.
[QUOTE="fastesttruck"][QUOTE="Flame_Blade88"] Her responsibility for not taking some sort of means of birth control. What if it failed? Its not 100% sure ya know Absolutely and I agree, but having an oopsie isn't bad though, actually all of the oopsies that I know are freaking wonderful lol Put the baby up for adoption then.
[QUOTE="Aquat1cF1sh"]I'm against it... Unless it's threatening to the mother. Seriously though, abortion is pretty gruesome. I mean the first thing they do is cut off the head so that whatever was growing inside is now dead... I think it's pretty sick. Isn't that sort of what we do when we kill cattle and pigs for eating tho? (Not saying we eat the abortions but still its basically the same thing in a way)
Seriously though, abortion is pretty gruesome. I mean the first thing they do is cut off the head so that whatever was growing inside is now dead... I think it's pretty sick.Aquat1cF1sh
Eh, are you sure? That doesn't sound very accurate.
[QUOTE="Flame_Blade88"] Absolutely and I agree, but having an oopsie isn't bad though, actually all of the oopsies that I know are freaking wonderful lol Put the baby up for adoption then.There are a of kids already up for adoption tho. Why add more if the woman really doesn't want to have the child? Why should someone tell her what to do?
Second a fetus is capable of living outside the womb I say you shouldn't be able to abort anymore. That said I don't think abortion is murder at all. It's simply stopping a group of cells from attaining sentience. Also I understand the stance of those who are pro-life and I really only disagree with the ones who think rape pregnancies shouldn't be capable of termination and the ones who commit terrorist acts for their "sides" sake.
[QUOTE="fastesttruck"][QUOTE="Flame_Blade88"] Absolutely and I agree, but having an oopsie isn't bad though, actually all of the oopsies that I know are freaking wonderful lol Put the baby up for adoption then.There are a of kids already up for adoption tho. Why add more if the woman really doesn't want to have the child? Why should someone tell her what to do? I cannot fully answer that because my personal thoughts on the subject. But if she REALLY doesn't want to have a baby, then don't have sex until you're ready then or have her mate pull out before the climax so to speak.
I'm against it... Unless it's threatening to the mother. Seriously though, abortion is pretty gruesome. I mean the first thing they do is cut off the head so that whatever was growing inside is now dead... I think it's pretty sick.Aquat1cF1sh
Um there are a number of ways to perform an abortion and I never heard this being one of them. =|
Regardless, trying to portray the proceedure as something gruesome is suggesting that those (at least most) who are pro-choice do not realise that abortion as a proceedure is not a... "nice" one.
Personally I have always described abortion as a necessary evil. And thats how I feel about it.
[QUOTE="T_P_O"][QUOTE="Aquat1cF1sh"] Eh, are you sure? That doesn't sound very accurate.
[QUOTE="Aquat1cF1sh"]I'm against it... Unless it's threatening to the mother. Seriously though, abortion is pretty gruesome. I mean the first thing they do is cut off the head so that whatever was growing inside is now dead... I think it's pretty sick.Teenaged
Um there are a number of ways to perform an abortion and I never heard this being one of them. =| Gah, I had it backwards. One method involves them pulling the body out while keeping the head in the vagina then cutting off the head at the neck.
[QUOTE="Flame_Blade88"] I cannot fully answer that because my personal thoughts on the subject. But if she REALLY doesn't want to have a baby, then don't have sex until you're ready then or have her mate pull out before the climax so to speak. Okay I'll try another question. How is it effecting you personally if someone ends the pregnancy?
[QUOTE="Aquat1cF1sh"]I'm against it... Unless it's threatening to the mother. Seriously though, abortion is pretty gruesome. I mean the first thing they do is cut off the head so that whatever was growing inside is now dead... I think it's pretty sick.Teenaged
Um there are a number of ways to perform an abortion and I never heard this being one of them. =| Well, I personally find partial birth abortions to be as, if not more gruesome than this.
Gah, I had it backwards. One method involves them pulling the body out while keeping the head in the vagina then cutting off the head at the neck.Aquat1cF1sh
The head isn't cut off, these are called partial birth abortions which suck the brain out of the child while keeping the head in the birth canal as you say.
[QUOTE="Aquat1cF1sh"] Gah, I had it backwards. One method involves them pulling the body out while keeping the head in the vagina then cutting off the head at the neck.mindstorm
The head isn't cut off, these are called partial birth abortions which suck the brain out of the child while keeping the head in the birth canal as you say. Yeah, the head can be cut off during partial birth abortions...
Understandable in cases such as rape or if her health is at risk because of it, but other than that, I'm strongly against it. Even if birth control fails, well that's just too bad. You run the risk by having sex, if you don't want any risk of having a baby, don't do it.
[QUOTE="fastesttruck"][QUOTE="Flame_Blade88"] I cannot fully answer that because my personal thoughts on the subject. But if she REALLY doesn't want to have a baby, then don't have sex until you're ready then or have her mate pull out before the climax so to speak. Okay I'll try another question. How is it effecting you personally if someone ends the pregnancy? It doesn't really effect me on an emotional level, but I still feel like the woman is being irresponsible for past actions, it's just the way I think of it. But if she's so deadset on going through with it, there's really nothing to argue about.
Understandable in cases such as rape or if her health is at risk because of it, but other than that, I'm strongly against it. Even if birth control fails, well that's just too bad. You run the risk by having sex, if you don't want any risk of having a baby, don't do it.MagikarpSplash
Do you feel the same way about car crashes? There is a risk to driving... Everything we do has a risk in it.
[QUOTE="Aquat1cF1sh"]I'm against it... Unless it's threatening to the mother. Seriously though, abortion is pretty gruesome. I mean the first thing they do is cut off the head so that whatever was growing inside is now dead... I think it's pretty sick.Aquat1cF1sh
Um there are a number of ways to perform an abortion and I never heard this being one of them. =| Gah, I had it backwards. One method involves them pulling the body out while keeping the head in the vagina then cutting off the head at the neck.Its just that I remember reading the usual methods and I dont remember this one.
I do remember one though where they insert some kind of fluid inside the mother's womb which I dont know how it kills the fetus but yeah anyway.
[QUOTE="MagikarpSplash"]Understandable in cases such as rape or if her health is at risk because of it, but other than that, I'm strongly against it. Even if birth control fails, well that's just too bad. You run the risk by having sex, if you don't want any risk of having a baby, don't do it.fastesttruck
Do you feel the same way about car crashes? There is a risk to driving... Everything we do has a risk in it. Yep, everything has risks, so we must prepare for the consequences. If you absolutely don't want a car crash, don't drive. If you absolutely don't want a baby, don't have sex.
[QUOTE="Flame_Blade88"] It doesn't really effect me on an emotional level, but I still feel like the woman is being irresponsible for past actions, it's just the way I think of it. But if she's so deadset on going through with it, there's really nothing to argue about. So in a sense, its sorta like you're for punishing the mother-to-be b/c of something a little irresponsible? As for there not being anything to argue about if shes so dead set... there is something to argue. If not, why does such a big deal get made about it all the time.
[QUOTE="mindstorm"][QUOTE="Aquat1cF1sh"] Gah, I had it backwards. One method involves them pulling the body out while keeping the head in the vagina then cutting off the head at the neck.Aquat1cF1sh
The head isn't cut off, these are called partial birth abortions which suck the brain out of the child while keeping the head in the birth canal as you say. Yeah, the head can be cut off during partial birth abortions... Ah okay, I just don't know much about it to be honest.
[QUOTE="T_P_O"][QUOTE="00-Riddick-00"]They should have the right to have an abortion.. But it should also be considered Murder.. Because that is what it is :|00-Riddick-00
Not unless it's unlawful and fits the legal definition of murder in the area. Killing a human being while it is in the womb is murder.... Nope, it's not unless it fits the legal definition of murder and is unlawful. Not every killing of a human being is a murder.
[QUOTE="MagikarpSplash"] Yep, everything has risks, so we must prepare for the consequences. If you absolutely don't want a car crash, don't drive. If you absolutely don't want a baby, don't have sex. So how are we going to get to work? There are a lot of benefits to sex tho. And to be stuck with something just b/c not everyone has the same feeling about it, to me, seems a bit... silly. Maybe not the best word to use there but to me it just seems a bit silly. Its not hurting anyone else
[QUOTE="00-Riddick-00"]They should have the right to have an abortion.. But it should also be considered Murder.. Because that is what it is :|Teenaged
Um how could that happen?
I mean if it is considered a murder, then how would the mothers-to-not-be be granted the option as a right?
Lemme put it this way.. You could kill someone right now.. But you would go to jail for it.. Not so much a right but Murder is illegal.
[QUOTE="fastesttruck"][QUOTE="Flame_Blade88"] It doesn't really effect me on an emotional level, but I still feel like the woman is being irresponsible for past actions, it's just the way I think of it. But if she's so deadset on going through with it, there's really nothing to argue about. So in a sense, its sorta like you're for punishing the mother-to-be b/c of something a little irresponsible? As for there not being anything to argue about if shes so dead set... there is something to argue. If not, why does such a big deal get made about it all the time. Calling something like getting pregnant accidentally a "little irresponsible" is a bit of an understatement don't you think? I apologize if you didn't mean it that way, but that's they way I took it.
i think abortion is wrong, but i think women should be able to get them if they want. however, i also believe the father should have a say in the matter.
[QUOTE="Flame_Blade88"] Calling something like getting pregnant accidentally a "little irresponsible" is a bit of an understatement don't you think? I apologize if you didn't mean it that way, but that's they way I took it. if its b/c they are that very small % that the birth control failed for then no I don't find it to be a bit of an understatement. But even if it really was b/c they are very irresponsible, why punish them for something that isn't illegal?
[QUOTE="fastesttruck"][QUOTE="Flame_Blade88"] Calling something like getting pregnant accidentally a "little irresponsible" is a bit of an understatement don't you think? I apologize if you didn't mean it that way, but that's they way I took it. if its b/c they are that very small % that the birth control failed for then no I don't find it to be a bit of an understatement. But even if it really was b/c they are very irresponsible, why punish them for something that isn't illegal? Well, like I said, I just find it careless and irresponsible, just my opinion.
[QUOTE="Flame_Blade88"] Calling something like getting pregnant accidentally a "little irresponsible" is a bit of an understatement don't you think? I apologize if you didn't mean it that way, but that's they way I took it. fastesttruck
if its b/c they are that very small % that the birth control failed for then no I don't find it to be a bit of an understatement. But even if it really was b/c they are very irresponsible, why punish them for something that isn't illegal? Because some people forget the whole point of America.
[QUOTE="fastesttruck"][QUOTE="Flame_Blade88"] I cannot fully answer that because my personal thoughts on the subject. But if she REALLY doesn't want to have a baby, then don't have sex until you're ready then or have her mate pull out before the climax so to speak. Okay I'll try another question. How is it effecting you personally if someone ends the pregnancy? Well, say you had a GF for five years and get the chance to be the father to your yet unborn chillren, while carrying your child you and the mother gets uneven and decide to brake up since the mother did find another man. Wile you still love your unborn child the mother want to live with her new male, they decide over to make an abort of YOUR child since they dont want to start their new life with your kid. Isn't it strange how just because it's not you who carry the baby are considerd not to be the parent, i mean it's still your child because you made it and it is your flesh and blood.
Yes, it is in fact THEIR bodies and noone, let alone a bunch of men who will never be in a female's position has a say in it.
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It's not the woman's body. It's the body of a separate individual who deserves the same right as anyone else.Yes it is, early on it's not a human life, but even so it's still none of your business as whether or not a woman wants to end a pregnancy.
I believe that a woman has a right to chose. It is her body, and we have no right to say what she can and cannot do to it. I do wish that in the case of committed longterm relationships, that the father would have some say in the matter. For example, if the woman wanted an abortion, she would have to tell the father (only in a committed relationship) and if he wanted to fight it, they would have to see a counselor that would talk to them about it and run down all their options. That being said, the final say should always lie with the woman. In fact, I wouldn't mind in the case of all abortions that the mother would have to see a counselor who would inform them on the subject, just to weed out some the spur of the moment and fear based abortions.
[QUOTE="Flame_Blade88"] Well, like I said, I just find it careless and irresponsible, just my opinion. And I find it a bit rude and unjust to try to control someone's life like that. And people can do things to harm the pregnancy...
Women, and women only should have the right to have an abortion. Although I'm morally against it, I think that women should have the right to choose.btaylor2404
I like your logic. Even tho you are morally against it you understand the fact that it should be up to the female to decide if she keeps it or not.
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