Should women have "the right" to end a pregnancy?

I believe that a woman has a right to chose. It is her body, and we have no right to say what she can and cannot do to it. I do wish that in the case of committed longterm relationships, that the father would have some say in the matter. For example, if the woman wanted an abortion, she would have to tell the father (only in a committed relationship) and if he wanted to fight it, they would have to see a counselor that would talk to them about it and run down all their options. That being said, the final say should always lie with the woman. In fact, I wouldn't mind in the case of all abortions that the mother would have to see a counselor who would inform them on the subject, just to weed out some the spur of the moment and fear based abortions.

redstorm72

I believe that a woman has a right to chose. It is her body, and we have no right to say what she can and cannot do to it. I do wish that in the case of committed longterm relationships, that the father would have some say in the matter. For example, if the woman wanted an abortion, she would have to tell the father (only in a committed relationship) and if he wanted to fight it, they would have to see a counselor that would talk to them about it and run down all their options. That being said, the final say should always lie with the woman. In fact, I wouldn't mind in the case of all abortions that the mother would have to see a counselor who would inform them on the subject, just to weed out some the spur of the moment and fear based abortions.

redstorm72

[QUOTE="fastesttruck"][QUOTE="Flame_Blade88"] Calling something like getting pregnant accidentally a "little irresponsible" is a bit of an understatement don't you think? I apologize if you didn't mean it that way, but that's they way I took it. gamestop27

I think they should be allowed. Some people are basically not in the life situation to go through pregnancy. I would never let my wife abort a child though, as bad as our life situation would be.

I'm not even morally against abortion. If a newly pregnant mother feels unfit to raise a child, instead of burdening society with it she should act promptly and nip it in the bud so to speak. There is hardly anything worse in this world than being born unwanted, so as long as she acts quickly (first trimester here) everything is fine and dandy as things are pretty much just nipped in the bud. As for late term abortions or anything after the first tri-mester I feel unless the health of the mother at stake that is where I do draw the line. Either way the feigned outrage over the millions of "babies" "murdered" is great at getting social conservatives to the polls, but anyone with half a brain can see that it is in the Republicans very best interests to have abortion stay legal. So many single-issue voters with mis-placed passions are given the ol' bait and switch every time.

The woman doesn't have the right to kill the baby, but the baby doesn't have a right to use the woman's body, nor does it have the right to demand help.

So yes, the woman has the right to end the pregnancy.

[QUOTE="gamestop27"]

[QUOTE="fastesttruck"] if its b/c they are that very small % that the birth control failed for then no I don't find it to be a bit of an understatement. But even if it really was b/c they are very irresponsible, why punish them for something that isn't illegal? fastesttruck

Freedom to do as you please as long as it is not in violation of the rights of others and the laws. Morally I'm against it, but it bothers me when people still to thisvery day trytheir best to argueagainst a woman wanting to end her pregnancy for whatever reason. The arguments against abortion hold no grounds outside of religious and emotional appeals, 2 things the United States constitution doesn't run on thankfully.

gamestop27

Why did you not just put abortion in the title.

because this will just be another abortion debate

Yep.

Just as you should have "the right" to use scare quotes and loaded terms like "murder the fetus", surexaos

The left uses euphemisms like "family planning".

[QUOTE="xaos"]Just as you should have "the right" to use scare quotes and loaded terms like "murder the fetus", sureSgtKevali

The left uses euphemisms like "family planning".

I generally disagree with the legalization of abortion.

No, i don't think so...because the child also has the right to life..

[QUOTE="SgtKevali"]

[QUOTE="xaos"]Just as you should have "the right" to use scare quotes and loaded terms like "murder the fetus", surexaos

The left uses euphemisms like "family planning".

Both sides use loaded language.

[QUOTE="xaos"][QUOTE="SgtKevali"]

The left uses euphemisms like "family planning".

SgtKevali

Both sides use loaded language.

[QUOTE="SgtKevali"]

[QUOTE="xaos"] If family planning referred exclusive to abortion, I'd call that a credible criticism. Not sure what that has to do with what I said, though.Teenaged

Both sides use loaded language.

Oh, sorry I misread it.

I believe they should have the right, but it should only be done for a legitimate reason.ghoklebutter

What do you mean by legitimate?

I know its probably not the popular opinion here, but I do see abortion as murder. I don't think a woman should have that right.

I don't like abortion, but as the great Neku once said: "I have my values, so you can keep yours, okay?" Pro choice for the win.

its their body why should I tell them what to do with it

If something can't fight back or defend itself than it's ok to kill it. Everyone knows this.

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

So you agree to taking away the mother's rights while also supporting fatherhood for rapists?

That doesn't sound optimal

Jaysonguy

Yes they most certainly would, there's no way to avoid it

So I'm interested in why you support a rapist's rights to procreate

As for the ending life a rape victim can choose to abort before it even becomes what people commonly refer to as the fetus

I'd like to go back to giving the rapist rights to have children though, personally I'm against that sort of reward for rape but you say it doesn't matter?

[QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

[QUOTE="mayforcebeyou"]Men should have the right too or it should be banned. It's not fair if only women can decide. mayforcebeyou

Then the father should have to carry the child for half the time and half the pregnancy, to be fair.

So the father should get equal say for less/no burden?

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They should have the right to have an abortion.. But it should also be considered Murder.. Because that is what it is :|00-Riddick-00

So is execution, by basic definition.

[QUOTE="00-Riddick-00"]They should have the right to have an abortion.. But it should also be considered Murder.. Because that is what it is :|Pixel-Pirate

So is execution, by basic definition.

[QUOTE="ghoklebutter"]I believe they should have the right, but it should only be done for a legitimate reason.SgtKevali

What do you mean by legitimate?

It's unfortunate that so many think adoption is a truly legitimate alternative. Most who believe this are men who either have never witnessed childbirth or who don't know what it and the 9 months of pregnancy entails. They also don't seem to take into account the cost of raising a child in an adoption center, the amount of children already in an adoption center and the likelihood it would rapidly multiply to epidemic levels if the only alternative was giving up for adoption. Who will be adopting and paying for all these millions of extra children born into centers?

On average there are around 1.38 million abortions per year VS around 200,000 (not all adopted from the US, some were adopted from overseas) children adopted per year in the US. If abortion did not exist and adoption was the only answer, 1.38 million children extra would go to centers each year. Feeding all these children and housing them all, with a vast extra load of children isn't cheap and I have little doubt it would cause a huge strain and problems with money. Unless you can find an extra 1.38 million people per year to adopt a child, using adoption as an alternative isn't feasible. And forcing the woman to keep the child would just be pure stupidity.

Though to be fair, banning abortion wouldn't cause all 1.38 million to go to adoption centers. Alot would still be aborted but instead by dangerous back alley abortionists which risk the mothers life. It would be great if we lived in a world where abortion wasn't necessary, but we don't. Making it illegal is just as irresponsible as the person who got pregnant by their own means and didn't want to.

There are consequences to massive changes like banning something. It isn't all sunshine and roses.

[QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

[QUOTE="00-Riddick-00"]They should have the right to have an abortion.. But it should also be considered Murder.. Because that is what it is :|Commander-Gree

So is execution, by basic definition.

Unfortunately we cannot ban/legalise things based on what you or I personally feel is morally right or wrong. If it was up to me, execution would be abolished as it is morally wrong to me.

Should women be forced to have a baby or should they have the right to kill it before it is born? Is abortion murder? Do you see any difference between life at conception or life after twenty four weeks of conception? Is there any difference to the fetus wether it was conceived from a rape or incest or as a accident from a drunk night out? I am all for womens rights, but when they are pregnent, its not just about them anymore. Unless a womans health is at stake, i dont believe abortion should be allowed. Where do you stand on the subject?

Videodogg

Unless you're all women who have been raped but went through with the pregnancy, you really have no room to judge those in such a situation. I'm willing to bet the majority of you aren't even women. It's easy to condemn those for a choice you yourselves will never have to worry about making.

I think abortion is the most selfish act a human can commit. Whether you consider it murder or not, in most cases, the mother is prevented another human being from ever living in order to accommodate her own life. That to me is unacceptable.

I think abortion is the most selfish act a human can commit. Whether you consider it murder or not, in most cases, the mother is prevented another human being from ever living in order to accommodate her own life. That to me is unacceptable.

Samurai_Xavier

I think abortion is the most selfish act a human can commit. Whether you consider it murder or not, in most cases, the mother is prevented another human being from ever living in order to accommodate her own life. That to me is unacceptable.

Samurai_Xavier

I think that is a very strong moral case for being against abortion; though it is not enough to obligate anyone to do anything.

I think abortion is the most selfish act a human can commit. Whether you consider it murder or not, in most cases, the mother is prevented another human being from ever living in order to accommodate her own life. That to me is unacceptable.

Samurai_Xavier

Can you be a little less judgemental? I doubt you've been in such a situation where you have to make a choice like that. :|

[QUOTE="Commander-Gree"][QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

So is execution, by basic definition.

Pixel-Pirate

Unfortunately we cannot ban/legalise things based on what you or I personally feel is morally right or wrong. If it was up to me, execution would be abolished as it is morally wrong to me.