smoke cigs everyday of my life

[QUOTE="-Keel-_basic"][QUOTE="MaXXXed_Out"] wrong. if there are stimuli influencing a decision then it is not a product of will lol bro get out of here with your psuedo-intellect lolMaXXXed_Out

[QUOTE="metroidfood"]

[QUOTE="MaXXXed_Out"] wrong. if there are stimuli influencing a decision then it is not a product of will lol bro get out of here with your psuedo-intellect lolMaXXXed_Out

I think what he's saying is that it's still an act of will, even if they're simply following the path of least resistance.

If you choose to climb over a molehill rather than a mountain there's stimuli in that decision, but you still chose the molehill.

[QUOTE="metroidfood"]

[QUOTE="MaXXXed_Out"] wrong. if there are stimuli influencing a decision then it is not a product of will lol bro get out of here with your psuedo-intellect lolMaXXXed_Out

I think what he's saying is that it's still an act of will, even if they're simply following the path of least resistance.

If you choose to climb over a molehill rather than a mountain there's stimuli in that decision, but you still chose the molehill.

[QUOTE="-Keel-_basic"][QUOTE="MaXXXed_Out"] of course I get you riled up. you're a fish. fish always get riled up when they get caught on a hook. oops! wait don't leave. I'm sorry. I want you to stay so I can play with you some more. ok bro?MaXXXed_Out

[QUOTE="MrGeezer"]Who are you trying to convince? Me, or yourself? Do you REALLY think I'm naive enough to buy that, or are you simply trying to justify in your mind the kind of self-serving ego-stroking feeling that non-smokers get by being able to publicly act superior?MaXXXed_Out

:lol:

EXACTLY my point. You actually have the nerve to try to claim that THAT is "constructive criticism"?

You've done a FINE job discrediting yourself.

So...now that we can admit that the whole thing about "constructive criticism" was a total lie, WHICH IS IT? You've stated that smokers are NOT in control of their actions, and yet you're now stating that you hate smokers and hope that they burn in hell.

Funny how that works. Because if smokers are NOT the sole deciders of exactly when and if they smoke, then they are NOT in control of their actions. Which means that they can't help it. That it's the tobacco controlling the people, rather than the people controlling the tobacco. Which again, if the smokers CANNOT CHOOSE WHETHEROR NOT TO SMOKE, makes nicotine-addicted individuals equivalent to mentally retarded people.

So again, I ask, WHICH IS IT? Are smokers entirely responsible for their own actions, or do you also like walking up to people with no arms and asking them to hand you things?

[QUOTE="metroidfood"][QUOTE="MaXXXed_Out"] giving into weakness isn't really an example of will power now is it? broMaXXXed_Out

conscious, because you're aware of it, but it is not borne of will power. in fact it's a lack of it. hello? addicts are slaves

[QUOTE="-Keel-_basic"][QUOTE="MaXXXed_Out"] see I don't have homosexual tendencies, that's why I don't pick up on things like that unless you really emphasize it. btw you're gross bro. I don't want to see your 1-incher okMaXXXed_Out

this helps deal with stress and doesn't do harm to your body.

[QUOTE="-Keel-_basic"]What happens when a smoker quits? Is he suddenly bestowed with great amounts of will power? I'm not sure where you find definitions of words.MaXXXed_Out

[QUOTE="-Keel-_basic"][QUOTE="MaXXXed_Out"] no I don't hate homosexuals. I'm just not one of them. should be simple to understand. oh wait that's right you're not as smart as you act. I need to remember that. thanks for the reminder broMaXXXed_Out

[QUOTE="-Keel-_basic"][QUOTE="MaXXXed_Out"] in moments of peace, brought on by the fix itself, is where the smoker reflects upon his choices in life, and slowly starts to build will power to quit the crippling habit he has fallen into. eventually all that stored willpower is released on the day the smoker decides he's had enough. it doesn't come from those raving cravings, it's during the fix where the poor smoker can calm down, collect his thoughts, and map a game plan to escape addiction bro :)MaXXXed_Out

[QUOTE="-Keel-_basic"][QUOTE="MaXXXed_Out"] in moments of peace, brought on by the fix itself, is where the smoker reflects upon his choices in life, and slowly starts to build will power to quit the crippling habit he has fallen into. eventually all that stored willpower is released on the day the smoker decides he's had enough. it doesn't come from those raving cravings, it's during the fix where the poor smoker can calm down, collect his thoughts, and map a game plan to escape addiction bro :)MaXXXed_Out

[QUOTE="-Keel-_basic"][QUOTE="MaXXXed_Out"] that's just stupid. stop getting all hot and bothered. you're not tough or scary. in fact the way you're acting is embarrassingMaXXXed_Out

[QUOTE="ConformestClone"][QUOTE="MaXXXed_Out"] you should work on not being jealous. I know I'm smarter than you but damn bro don't take it personally I was just born this way lolMaXXXed_Out

[QUOTE="ConformestClone"][QUOTE="MaXXXed_Out"] you should work on not being jealous. I know I'm smarter than you but damn bro don't take it personally I was just born this way lolMaXXXed_Out

Duuuuude! Smoke weed every day bro.

[QUOTE="-Keel-_basic"][QUOTE="MaXXXed_Out"] wow. I'm deeply offended. maybe I should commit suicide. seriously bro, do you think these little inflammatory posts of yours are affecting me? you just appear to be throwing a cyber-tantrum. MaXXXed_Out

[QUOTE="MrGeezer"] EXACTLY my point. You actually have the nerve to try to claim that THAT is "constructive criticism"? You've done a FINE job discrediting yourself.MaXXXed_Out

You just keep digging your hole even deeper, don't you?

If you have the opinion that people who smoke do not smoke out of free will, then WHY would you offer ANY kind of criticism?

Despite the fact that you've already destroyed ANY notion of ACTUALLY wanting to give constructive criticism in order to help people, then the ENTIRE ACT of giving ANY kind of criticism (constructive or otherwise) is rendered completely pointless by the fact that you don't think that they possess the free will required to HEED your criticisms.

So...given that you believe that smokers do NOT smoke out of free will, that sort of REMOVES any ability for your criticisms to have ANY effect on whether or not they smoke. Which means that you WON'T be offering any "constructive criticism". Because, you see, you KNOW that it won't affect them.

That is, of course, unless you're not even TRYING to help them when you criticize them.

Again, EVERYTHING is a risk/reward analysis. If you're offering "constructive criticism" with the knowledge that your criticism cannot help the people who you claim to be trying to help, then the ONLY one left to obtain the benefits of your criticisms are YOU. You flat out ADMIT that you cannot help them and that you hate them.

Which brings up the question of WHY you are even TRYING to help them if you hate them.

Which brings up the question of WHY you are even trying to help them if you believe that their actions are nonvolitional.

And THAT excludes them from being the ones who are intended to benefit from your actions.

[QUOTE="-Keel-_basic"]Duuuuude! Smoke weed every day bro. MaXXXed_Out

[QUOTE="ConformestClone"][QUOTE="MaXXXed_Out"] why thank you sir. I'll take your sarcasm as evidence that you're jealous too so now there are two people in this thread who've been overwhelmed by my dominanceMaXXXed_Out

[QUOTE="MaXXXed_Out"][QUOTE="MrGeezer"] EXACTLY my point. You actually have the nerve to try to claim that THAT is "constructive criticism"? You've done a FINE job discrediting yourself.MrGeezer

You just keep digging your hole even deeper, don't you?

If you have the opinion that people who smoke do not smoke out of free will, then WHY would you offer ANY kind of criticism?

Despite the fact that you've already destroyed ANY notion of ACTUALLY wanting to give constructive criticism in order to help people, then the ENTIRE ACT of giving ANY kind of criticism (constructive or otherwise) is rendered completely pointless by the fact that you don't think that they possess the free will required to HEED your criticisms.

So...given that you believe that smokers do NOT smoke out of free will, that sort of REMOVES any ability for your criticisms to have ANY effect on whether or not they smoke. Which means that you WON'T be offering any "constructive criticism". Because, you see, you KNOW that it won't affect them.

That is, of course, unless you're not even TRYING to help them when you criticize them.

Again, EVERYTHING is a risk/reward analysis. If you're offering "constructive criticism" with the knowledge that your criticism cannot help the people who you claim to be trying to help, then the ONLY one left to obtain the benefits of your criticisms are YOU. You flat out ADMIT that you cannot help them and that you hate them.

Which brings up the question of WHY you are even TRYING to help them if you hate them.

Which brings up the question of WHY you are even trying to help them if you believe that their actions are nonvolitional.

And THAT excludes them from being the ones who are intended to benefit from your actions.

[QUOTE="-Keel-_basic"]Duuuuude! Smoke weed every day bro. MaXXXed_Out

Yeah, that doesn't surprise me in the least.

[QUOTE="-Keel-_basic"][QUOTE="MaXXXed_Out"] I do.MaXXXed_Out

[QUOTE="ConformestClone"][QUOTE="MaXXXed_Out"] seriously. don't even try that crap. you think I haven't dealt with your type before?MaXXXed_Out

[QUOTE="ConformestClone"][QUOTE="MaXXXed_Out"] seriously. don't even try that crap. you think I haven't dealt with your type before?MaXXXed_Out

don't you guys want to play anymore?MaXXXed_Out

[QUOTE="ConformestClone"]You're assuming that we actually care. Honestly I find discussion and debate interesting so I'm not inflamed in the slightest. On top of that, you'd have to be stupid to expect that I came into this forum without the preconception of the vast majority of people here being ignorant and immovable idiots. You're nothing out of the norm, but entertaining none-the-less. Fail-troll. :)MaXXXed_Out

[QUOTE="ConformestClone"]You're assuming that we actually care. Honestly I find discussion and debate interesting so I'm not inflamed in the slightest. On top of that, you'd have to be stupid to expect that I came into this forum without the preconception of the vast majority of people here being ignorant and immovable idiots. You're nothing out of the norm, but entertaining none-the-less. Fail-troll. :)MaXXXed_Out