Songs With Better Guitar Solo(s) than that of Master of Puppets'

[QUOTE="nimatoad2000"][QUOTE="deathtarget04"]

Freebird, Stairway etc. imo

deathtarget04

So what if its cliche. They must be good if its considered cliche.....

I'm a lefty, and yes i think jimi hendrix is a very good guitarist (he plays an upside down right handed guitar) but there are alot of good guitarists so i dont think 1 person can be the "best ever"

MoP has the one of the most boring solos ever. >_>

Here are some better solos:

Megadeth-Tornado of Souls (3:08 )

Metallica-Fade to Black (5:06)

Iron Maiden-Caught Somewhere In Time (3:32)

Alice In Chains-Angry Chair (2:28 )

Black Sabbath-Heaven and Hell (4:25)

[QUOTE="D_Battery"]

Dude, Master of Puppets is one of Kirk Hammett's weakest solos. And I don't mean the slow interlude, that part's okay, but the fast solo in that song exemplifies everything that people hate about his playing. It has no feeling, it's not creative and it's not very memorable.

Kirk's played some good solos; Blackened, Ride the lightning, The Unforgiven (Screw off black album haters, the solo in it was one of his best) to name a few, but Master of Puppets is definitely not one of them.

nimatoad2000

Seems like you don't like Metallica very much.

Fermented Offal Discharge by NecrophagistDarth-Caedus

[QUOTE="nimatoad2000"][QUOTE="D_Battery"]

Dude, Master of Puppets is one of Kirk Hammett's weakest solos. And I don't mean the slow interlude, that part's okay, but the fast solo in that song exemplifies everything that people hate about his playing. It has no feeling, it's not creative and it's not very memorable.

Kirk's played some good solos; Blackened, Ride the lightning, The Unforgiven (Screw off black album haters, the solo in it was one of his best) to name a few, but Master of Puppets is definitely not one of them.

ghoklebutter

Seems like you don't like Metallica very much.

Mea Culpa by The Human Abstract

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVmbl56HZfk

I know it's just sweep picking, but whatever still awesome anyway

This is a hard one. I love Master of Puppets but there's One, Fade To Black, Hit The Lights from Metallia just to name a few. Sairway To Heaven, Eruption, Voodoo Chile (Slight Return), Sweet Child O' Mine and a lot more.

[QUOTE="--Anna--"]

Everything on Jeff Loomis "Zero Order Phase".

Darth-Caedus

[QUOTE="Darth-Caedus"][QUOTE="--Anna--"]

Everything on Jeff Loomis "Zero Order Phase".

AxeStrangler

[QUOTE="deathtarget04"]

[QUOTE="nimatoad2000"] quite original, and jimi hendrix is the best guitar player ever?cyberdarkkid

So what if its cliche. They must be good if its considered cliche.....

I'm a lefty, and yes i think jimi hendrix is a very good guitarist (he plays an upside down right handed guitar) but there are alot of good guitarists so i dont think 1 person can be the "best ever"

Jonas brothers are a fad. much like aqua, NSYNC etc, they'll probably be forgotten in 10 years or so.

Yea? Well im sure that you havent read up on jimi if you think he isnt special.

Look at some of these comments:

http://www.the-top-tens.com/lists/greatest-guitarists-ever.asp

I respect your opinion but you cant deny he influenced many guitarists.

I like the solo in Deep Purples Highway Star...awesome!

robertmac_33

Me, too.

[QUOTE="cyberdarkkid"][QUOTE="deathtarget04"]

So what if its cliche. They must be good if its considered cliche.....

I'm a lefty, and yes i think jimi hendrix is a very good guitarist (he plays an upside down right handed guitar) but there are alot of good guitarists so i dont think 1 person can be the "best ever"

deathtarget04

Jonas brothers are a fad. much like aqua, NSYNC etc, they'll probably be forgotten in 10 years or so.

Yea? Well im sure that you havent read up on jimi if you think he isnt special.

Look at some of these comments:

http://www.the-top-tens.com/lists/greatest-guitarists-ever.asp

I respect your opinion but you cant deny he influenced many guitarists.

[QUOTE="cyberdarkkid"][QUOTE="deathtarget04"]

So what if its cliche. They must be good if its considered cliche.....

I'm a lefty, and yes i think jimi hendrix is a very good guitarist (he plays an upside down right handed guitar) but there are alot of good guitarists so i dont think 1 person can be the "best ever"

deathtarget04

Jonas brothers are a fad. much like aqua, NSYNC etc, they'll probably be forgotten in 10 years or so.

Yea? Well im sure that you havent read up on jimi if you think he isnt special.

Look at some of these comments:

http://www.the-top-tens.com/lists/greatest-guitarists-ever.asp

I respect your opinion but you cant deny he influenced many guitarists.

[QUOTE="cyberdarkkid"][QUOTE="deathtarget04"]

So what if its cliche. They must be good if its considered cliche.....

I'm a lefty, and yes i think jimi hendrix is a very good guitarist (he plays an upside down right handed guitar) but there are alot of good guitarists so i dont think 1 person can be the "best ever"

deathtarget04

Jonas brothers are a fad. much like aqua, NSYNC etc, they'll probably be forgotten in 10 years or so.

Yea? Well im sure that you havent read up on jimi if you think he isnt special.

Look at some of these comments:

http://www.the-top-tens.com/lists/greatest-guitarists-ever.asp

I respect your opinion but you cant deny he influenced many guitarists.

No doubt Jimi was one of the most influential guys at the time. I think people are just speaking about technical playing like Yngwie Malmsteen which is alright, but I would much rather listen to the soul that people like Jimi and Carlos Santana put into their music than random arpeggios

[QUOTE="deathtarget04"]

[QUOTE="cyberdarkkid"] The Jonas Brothers must be hella good then, if they are cliche. Anyways if you ever actually really get into the guitar you'll understand that Jimi Hendrix isn't really special and nowhere near the best under today's terms.omus101

Jonas brothers are a fad. much like aqua, NSYNC etc, they'll probably be forgotten in 10 years or so.

Yea? Well im sure that you havent read up on jimi if you think he isnt special.

Look at some of these comments:

http://www.the-top-tens.com/lists/greatest-guitarists-ever.asp

I respect your opinion but you cant deny he influenced many guitarists.

No doubt Jimi was one of the most influential guys at the time. I think people are just speaking about technical playing like Yngwie Malmsteen which is alright, but I would much rather listen to the soul that people like Jimi and Carlos Santana put into their music than random arpeggios

It's not just technically but emotionally I also get more feeling from many of today's virtuosos than I do with Jimi Hendrix. I even enjoy Carlos Santana more than some of Hedrix's stuff.

Edit: BTW I don't really enjoy Malsmteen

[QUOTE="Teenaged"]

Meh my opinion will diregarded anyway.... but whatever.

Here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9GKFZ-Slqk - Go to 4:06. It lasts almost 2 minutes.

I dont even know if that's close to what music the band you mentioned plays but its just a very big solo that I like.

AirGuitarist87

But anyway it seems only you clicked the link. :(

Nobody cares for my taste or ze Scorpions! :cry:

[QUOTE="deathtarget04"]

[QUOTE="cyberdarkkid"] The Jonas Brothers must be hella good then, if they are cliche. Anyways if you ever actually really get into the guitar you'll understand that Jimi Hendrix isn't really special and nowhere near the best under today's terms.cyberdarkkid

Jonas brothers are a fad. much like aqua, NSYNC etc, they'll probably be forgotten in 10 years or so.

Yea? Well im sure that you havent read up on jimi if you think he isnt special.

Look at some of these comments:

http://www.the-top-tens.com/lists/greatest-guitarists-ever.asp

I respect your opinion but you cant deny he influenced many guitarists.

Eh, he didnt just play guitar, he wrote music aswell and sang.

"We"?? is this old rock vs metal or something? How can you tell ifa person is better than someone on guitar? Its not like Jimi couldnt play todays metal riffs and solos.

I'd like to see Kirk hammet or any other metal guitarist play like this lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1rj4rjTQuw&feature=related

[QUOTE="cyberdarkkid"][QUOTE="deathtarget04"]

Jonas brothers are a fad. much like aqua, NSYNC etc, they'll probably be forgotten in 10 years or so.

Yea? Well im sure that you havent read up on jimi if you think he isnt special.

Look at some of these comments:

http://www.the-top-tens.com/lists/greatest-guitarists-ever.asp

I respect your opinion but you cant deny he influenced many guitarists.

deathtarget04

Eh, he didnt just play guitar, he wrote music aswell and sang.

"We"?? is this old rock vs metal or something? How can you tell ifa person is better than someone on guitar? Its not like Jimi couldnt play todays metal riffs and solos.

I'd like to see Kirk hammet or any other metal guitarist play like this lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1rj4rjTQuw&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ole97tqy4Q8

pleased?

BTW many guitarists write their own music as well and some sing too, (I don't see how singing changes anything though)

And I wouldn't really call Kirk Hammet a virtuoso.

Go to youtube and type "jazz guitar"

[QUOTE="omus101"]

[QUOTE="deathtarget04"]

Jonas brothers are a fad. much like aqua, NSYNC etc, they'll probably be forgotten in 10 years or so.

Yea? Well im sure that you havent read up on jimi if you think he isnt special.

Look at some of these comments:

http://www.the-top-tens.com/lists/greatest-guitarists-ever.asp

I respect your opinion but you cant deny he influenced many guitarists.

cyberdarkkid

No doubt Jimi was one of the most influential guys at the time. I think people are just speaking about technical playing like Yngwie Malmsteen which is alright, but I would much rather listen to the soul that people like Jimi and Carlos Santana put into their music than random arpeggios

It's not just technically but emotionally I also get more feeling from many of today's virtuosos than I do with Jimi Hendrix. I even enjoy Carlos Santana more than some of Hedrix's stuff.

Edit: BTW I don't really enjoy Malsmteen

That's understandable, I've seen Vai play and the emotion he puts out just through his fingers is amazing. Also he makes very funny faces :lol:

[QUOTE="cyberdarkkid"]

[QUOTE="omus101"]

No doubt Jimi was one of the most influential guys at the time. I think people are just speaking about technical playing like Yngwie Malmsteen which is alright, but I would much rather listen to the soul that people like Jimi and Carlos Santana put into their music than random arpeggios

omus101

It's not just technically but emotionally I also get more feeling from many of today's virtuosos than I do with Jimi Hendrix. I even enjoy Carlos Santana more than some of Hedrix's stuff.

Edit: BTW I don't really enjoy Malsmteen

That's understandable, I've seen Vai play and the emotion he puts out just through his fingers is amazing. Also he makes very funny faces :lol:

[QUOTE="cyberdarkkid"][QUOTE="deathtarget04"]

Jonas brothers are a fad. much like aqua, NSYNC etc, they'll probably be forgotten in 10 years or so.

Yea? Well im sure that you havent read up on jimi if you think he isnt special.

Look at some of these comments:

http://www.the-top-tens.com/lists/greatest-guitarists-ever.asp

I respect your opinion but you cant deny he influenced many guitarists.

deathtarget04

Eh, he didnt just play guitar, he wrote music aswell and sang.

"We"?? is this old rock vs metal or something? How can you tell ifa person is better than someone on guitar? Its not like Jimi couldnt play todays metal riffs and solos.

I'd like to see Kirk hammet or any other metal guitarist play like this lol

The ability to play guitar with your teeth is just a gimmick...it dosen't make you any better of a guitarist..

[QUOTE="cyberdarkkid"][QUOTE="deathtarget04"]

So what if its cliche. They must be good if its considered cliche.....

I'm a lefty, and yes i think jimi hendrix is a very good guitarist (he plays an upside down right handed guitar) but there are alot of good guitarists so i dont think 1 person can be the "best ever"

deathtarget04

Jonas brothers are a fad. much like aqua, NSYNC etc, they'll probably be forgotten in 10 years or so.

Yea? Well im sure that you havent read up on jimi if you think he isnt special.

Look at some of these comments:

http://www.the-top-tens.com/lists/greatest-guitarists-ever.asp

I respect your opinion but you cant deny he influenced many guitarists.

EDIT: Why is Chuck Norris in the list? Is it a joke site? :?

EDIT 2: Also Uli Roth is waaaayyy down, as he is obviously better than Jabs....

[QUOTE="deathtarget04"]

[QUOTE="cyberdarkkid"] Yea I can't deny his influence but that doesn't make his music better or special. He was good for his own time but now we have better guitarists and if you want to ignore them go ahead but you're missing out.cyberdarkkid

Eh, he didnt just play guitar, he wrote music aswell and sang.

"We"?? is this old rock vs metal or something? How can you tell ifa person is better than someone on guitar? Its not like Jimi couldnt play todays metal riffs and solos.

I'd like to see Kirk hammet or any other metal guitarist play like this lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1rj4rjTQuw&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ole97tqy4Q8

pleased?

BTW many guitarists write their own music as well and some sing too, (I don't see how singing changes anything though)

And I wouldn't really call Kirk Hammet a virtuoso.

Never heard of paul gilbert.

Anyways im tired of this discussion. Theres no way that we can prove that who is better than who. Its all about preference. Whether you like or not Jimi is one of the best.

Just a quick question what are today's standards? being able to play real fast of a few chords? I can learn that soon so would that make me the best of all time?

[QUOTE="deathtarget04"]

The Jonas Brothers must be hella good then, if they are cliche. Anyways if you ever actually really get into the guitar you'll understand that Jimi Hendrix isn't really special and nowhere near the best under today's terms.cyberdarkkid

Jonas brothers are a fad. much like aqua, NSYNC etc, they'll probably be forgotten in 10 years or so.

Yea? Well im sure that you havent read up on jimi if you think he isnt special.

Look at some of these comments:

http://www.the-top-tens.com/lists/greatest-guitarists-ever.asp

I respect your opinion but you cant deny he influenced many guitarists.

EDIT: Why is Chuck Norris in the list? Is it a joke site? :?

[QUOTE="deathtarget04"]

[QUOTE="cyberdarkkid"] The Jonas Brothers must be hella good then, if they are cliche. Anyways if you ever actually really get into the guitar you'll understand that Jimi Hendrix isn't really special and nowhere near the best under today's terms.Teenaged

Jonas brothers are a fad. much like aqua, NSYNC etc, they'll probably be forgotten in 10 years or so.

Yea? Well im sure that you havent read up on jimi if you think he isnt special.

Look at some of these comments:

http://www.the-top-tens.com/lists/greatest-guitarists-ever.asp

I respect your opinion but you cant deny he influenced many guitarists.

I cant believe Matthias Jabs is in number 13! :o

EDIT: Why is Chuck Norris in the list? Is it a joke site? :?

Teenaged

[QUOTE="deathtarget04"]

Jonas brothers are a fad. much like aqua, NSYNC etc, they'll probably be forgotten in 10 years or so.

Yea? Well im sure that you havent read up on jimi if you think he isnt special.

Look at some of these comments:

http://www.the-top-tens.com/lists/greatest-guitarists-ever.asp

I respect your opinion but you cant deny he influenced many guitarists.

EDIT: Why is Chuck Norris in the list? Is it a joke site? :?

[QUOTE="Teenaged"]I cant believe Matthias Jabs is in number 13! :o

EDIT: Why is Chuck Norris in the list? Is it a joke site? :?

Darth-Caedus

Although it felt like something was wrong by that fact alone. :P

Lol at Michael Angelo.... :P

This right here was one of the greatest moments of guitar in modern history. De Lucia, DiMeola, and McLaughlin. I don't think anything can comapare guitar wise to the Friday Night In San Francisco cd.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7ypeZ6R-t0

This right here was one of the greatest moments of guitar in modern history. De Lucia, DiMeola, and McLaughlin. I don't think anything can comapare guitar wise to the Friday Night In San Francisco cd.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7ypeZ6R-t0

jazznate

[QUOTE="cyberdarkkid"]

[QUOTE="deathtarget04"]

Eh, he didnt just play guitar, he wrote music aswell and sang.

"We"?? is this old rock vs metal or something? How can you tell ifa person is better than someone on guitar? Its not like Jimi couldnt play todays metal riffs and solos.

I'd like to see Kirk hammet or any other metal guitarist play like this lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1rj4rjTQuw&feature=related

deathtarget04

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ole97tqy4Q8

pleased?

BTW many guitarists write their own music as well and some sing too, (I don't see how singing changes anything though)

And I wouldn't really call Kirk Hammet a virtuoso.

Never heard of paul gilbert.

Anyways im tired of this discussion. Theres no way that we can prove that who is better than who. Its all about preference. Whether you like or not Jimi is one of the best.

Just a quick question what are today's standards? being able to play real fast of a few chords? I can learn that soon so would that make me the best of all time?

Ok learn how to play like these guys then and learn how to "compose" like them as well:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IrWyZ0KZuk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t25AOSxZZkI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-OK7sS855M

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dNxshHlp4w

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJF5zB7YcXc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qCQLyb0-mI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjfUMLeKd5E

Also playing fast and learning a few chords aren't the standards today, and even that takes a lot of time and effort. If you can actually learn how to play fast in a week or even a month than you must be a prodigy. You'll see how more skilled the guys are posted are than Hendrix if you actually try to learn them one day.

Look they can even paly Hendrix's songs and even better:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fyQwuiyC_o

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojUtFyfnIJE

[QUOTE="Teenaged"]

[QUOTE="deathtarget04"]

Jonas brothers are a fad. much like aqua, NSYNC etc, they'll probably be forgotten in 10 years or so.

Yea? Well im sure that you havent read up on jimi if you think he isnt special.

Look at some of these comments:

http://www.the-top-tens.com/lists/greatest-guitarists-ever.asp

I respect your opinion but you cant deny he influenced many guitarists.

cyberdarkkid

You do realize that people vote on who is the best :/

You say its ridiculous because your favourites arent at the top?

Bad Omen by Megadeth.

Listen to it NOW.

Bad Omen by Megadeth.

Listen to it NOW.

Crazyguy105

Do you listen to other people's song that they posted???? Eh??? Did you listen to mine??? :x

Why should I listen to yours!?! :evil:

[QUOTE="cyberdarkkid"][QUOTE="Teenaged"]I cant believe Matthias Jabs is in number 13! :o

deathtarget04

You do realize that people vote on who is the best :/

You say its ridiculous because your favourites arent at the top?

[QUOTE="deathtarget04"]

[QUOTE="cyberdarkkid"] That list is one of the most ridiculous ones I've seen, it's should be called "The most successful Guitar Players". It doesn't even include many Jazz or ****cal Guitar players.cyberdarkkid

You do realize that people vote on who is the best :/

You say its ridiculous because your favourites arent at the top?

You do realize that people vote on who is the best :/

You say its ridiculous because your favourites arent at the top?

deathtarget04

[QUOTE="jazznate"]

This right here was one of the greatest moments of guitar in modern history. De Lucia, DiMeola, and McLaughlin. I don't think anything can comapare guitar wise to the Friday Night In San Francisco cd.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7ypeZ6R-t0

AxeStrangler

Yea, it's by far my favorite guitar album to listen to. So much skill involved between the three of them, I wish I could have been there.

however GREATEST guitarists lists should be based mostly on objective standards, not subjective opinions.

Darth-Caedus

[QUOTE="Darth-Caedus"]

however GREATEST guitarists lists should be based mostly on objective standards, not subjective opinions.

FFCYAN

[QUOTE="FFCYAN"]

[QUOTE="Darth-Caedus"]

however GREATEST guitarists lists should be based mostly on objective standards, not subjective opinions.

Darth-Caedus

[QUOTE="deathtarget04"]You do realize that people vote on who is the best :/

You say its ridiculous because your favourites arent at the top?

Darth-Caedus

Yes, this is true but impossible to judge really. I'm a ****cal guitarist who also does jazz guitar and it takes a hell of a lot of discipline to be a great ****cal guitarist. There's a lot more to ****cal guitar than just playing the notes on the paper, it's a very subtle instrument. Everything is taken into account for tone from nail shape, to how you pick, even where you pick the strings. Playing a note close to the fretboard sounds a lot different then playing near the bridge. Interpretation is the biggest thing, making a piece of music your own through dynamics, rubato, etc.

Jazz requires a lot of knowledge. You need music theory for jazz guitar or you will fail. You can't get by playing one scale the entire time, every chord has its own notes that voice them and you have to decide which of those notes to play, on the fly, that will sound pleasing as well as highlight the harmony. Improvisation is spontaneous composition. You have to know that the Locrian Mode is best used for a m7b5 chord and know how to use it. I used to write out harmonic analysis for tunes I did in my college jazz combo and band to help me.

[QUOTE="FFCYAN"]

[QUOTE="Darth-Caedus"]

however GREATEST guitarists lists should be based mostly on objective standards, not subjective opinions.

Darth-Caedus

[QUOTE="FFCYAN"]

[QUOTE="Darth-Caedus"]

however GREATEST guitarists lists should be based mostly on objective standards, not subjective opinions.

Darth-Caedus

[QUOTE="Darth-Caedus"][QUOTE="FFCYAN"]What standards would those be? What people think great guitarist should be will differ from the next person.

cyberdarkkid

Octavarium has some pretty nice solos.

John Petrucci makes some pretty nice solos.

uncledeath2005

Fixed to make your statement even more truthful :P

[QUOTE="Darth-Caedus"][QUOTE="FFCYAN"]What standards would those be? What people think great guitarist should be will differ from the next person.

cyberdarkkid

Well not even, a guitar list not including Andres Segovia is fail regardless. Without Segovia the guitar would still be the laughing stock of the musical world, we would still be seen as "the kid who never grew up" in a way. Segovia is the one who got well know composers to actually write music for guitar and got the instrument into institutions such as Peabody and Julliard.