So...When did you stoped believe in God, in case you did?

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#1 Drakes_Fortune
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I dont think i ever believed in God. Even my mom is very religious and that stuff, and i always tought it was all a bunch of crap since i was little. Im always very skeptical about many things. It always amazed me the ammount of people that believe in God here.

I remember one day in school, during a class the subject came up. And i was surprised like hell by the ammount of people that believed. ALL of my friends believed. I didnt even knew what to say. That really surprised me. I dunno why, but none of them seemed the kind of people to believe in that kinda of stuff. And the way they started saying " What, you dont believe?? Why not? Everyone does ", was really stupid. And the ammount of theories they had to prove it why he exists, were...im gonna say stupid to say the least.

I dont believe the ammount of people that believe in it just cause their parents did, its like a family tradition. The way they seemed to believe in it like it was a fact that he exists, i was really surprised.

Imagine for a second that no one would tell the next genarations anything about god and religion. Do you think they still would bring that up? Maybe, but i dont think so. I think religion and Gods are more a thing of the past, when people didnt had an explanation for the things, why they didnt knew why things happened. People that believe that it were gods that made it rain for example, they wouldnt have ever tought about it if they knew the reaason why it rains.

I think if these future generations never knew anything about God and suddenly you tell them, i think they wouldnt take it seriously. They would take it like a story or something.

Anyway im going a bit off topic here, so did you ever stoped believing?

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I never started really. Entertained the possibility, sure, but nothing I'd consider true faith.

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#3 stepnkev
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No, I never stopped believing. I did start believing though later in life.

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when i saw this map of the universe.

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#5 T_P_O
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If you're referring to the Abrahamic God, then probably from the age of 7 onwards.

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#6 deactivated-5a79221380856
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I believed in God for 17 years, but I always had trouble not associating Santa Clause with God, but I maintained that God was real regardless. What made me stop believing in God was when I read the Bible, I realized that I had created my God in my image, and that he was pagan.
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I stopped religious beliefs when Thomas Aquinas died.

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My Dad was from an Irish catholic background and explained to me from a very young age the concepts of science and religion, he was very straight with me and told me everything I wanted to know. He was agnostic at the time, I also had a very spiritual agnostic aunt who showed me many other religions and spiritual rituals that broadened my mind on the subject.

But What really put me off Christian/Catholic religions and there interpretation and teachings of "God" was the outright ignorance of my teachers whilst attending my secondary catholic school. there stance on many subjects and the schools rule under the church caused me to question the motives of organised religion.

I was for a time agnostic, and I always thought there must be a logical explanation for why we are here, but I never believed in a "Creator" And if there was a it would be far beyond human understanding and reason. But at around age 15, further studies into Science and the realisation of the "real world" I moved further and further away and eventually I became the atheist I am today.

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I watched a documentary called The Root of All Evil. That inspired me to look deeper into what religions are teaching, which drove me even further away from them and their gods.

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I was indoctrinated into Christianity as a child. Then I read the bible. I now consider him/her to be highly improbable.

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I dont think i ever believed in God. Even my mom is very religious and that stuff, and i always tought it was all a bunch of crap since i was little. Im always very skeptical about many things. It always amazed me the ammount of people that believe in God here.

I remember one day in school, during a class the subject came up. And i was surprised like hell by the ammount of people that believed. ALL of my friends believed. I didnt even knew what to say. That really surprised me. I dunno why, but none of them seemed the kind of people to believe in that kinda of stuff. And the way they started saying " What, you dont believe?? Why not? Everyone does ", was really stupid. And the ammount of theories they had to prove it why he exists, were...im gonna say stupid to say the least.

I dont believe the ammount of people that believe in it just cause their parents did, its like a family tradition. The way they seemed to believe in it like it was a fact that he exists, i was really surprised.

Imagine for a second that no one would tell the next genarations anything about god and religion. Do you think they still would bring that up? Maybe, but i dont think so. I think religion and Gods are more a thing of the past, when people didnt had an explanation for the things, why they didnt knew why things happened. People that believe that it were gods that made it rain for example, they wouldnt have ever tought about it if they knew the reaason why it rains.

I think if these future generations never knew anything about God and suddenly you tell them, i think they wouldnt take it seriously. They would take it like a story or something.

Anyway im going a bit off topic here, so did you ever stoped believing?

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just gonna make a quick note here... how do you know God doesn't control the factors that cause the rain? my point is...God can cause rain, because God can manipulate everything around him to get the desired results... its like saying...if I have a hammer and I need to build a house...im gonna use the hammer to build it...who built the house, the hammer, or me? I did, because I was manipulating the hammer, I was controlling the hammer to achieve what I wanted. so why cant God do the same? sure science can proove how things happen, but it cant proove if those things happen because someone/something started them
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#12 Free_Marxet
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I stopped believing in god when i was 11 or 12. im turning 24 soon.
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#13 HarshGamer
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I never started really. Entertained the possibility, sure, but nothing I'd consider true faith.

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I always used to believe in God, I wasn't your ideal Christian but I still believed. I stopped after I took a first year Philosophy course at my university. We talked about a lot of theories for and against the existance of God and then talked about why they failed. Something that really pushed me over the edge was the idea that if you don't have any evidence X exists, you should assume X doesn't exist.

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when i reached the age of reason at like 11 or 12
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I still believe in God, and I don't think I'll be an atheist anytime soon. IMO, atheism just seems purposeless when it comes to explaining what are we here for. To me, Christianity changed me, it made me a better person, and it also gives me hope in the future. There's got to be something if Christianity preaches forgiveness, dealing with criticism gently and graciously, guaranteed salvation through faith, and having genuine humility. What kind of religion offers eternal salvation without you needing to earn it?
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I still believe in God, and I don't think I'll be an atheist anytime soon. IMO, atheism just seems purposeless when it comes to explaining what are we here for. To me, Christianity changed me, it made me a better person, and it also gives me hope in the future. There's got to be something if Christianity preaches forgiveness, dealing with criticism gently and graciously, guaranteed salvation through faith, and having genuine humility. What kind of religion offers eternal salvation without you needing to earn it?hiphops_savior

What are we here for ?

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When i learned to accept not knowing. And when i really though about it. Having philosophy, biology, chemistry and physics lessons also teached me to learn and to accept the universe for what it is, not what i want it to be.
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[QUOTE="hiphops_savior"]I still believe in God, and I don't think I'll be an atheist anytime soon. IMO, atheism just seems purposeless when it comes to explaining what are we here for. To me, Christianity changed me, it made me a better person, and it also gives me hope in the future. There's got to be something if Christianity preaches forgiveness, dealing with criticism gently and graciously, guaranteed salvation through faith, and having genuine humility. What kind of religion offers eternal salvation without you needing to earn it?

so,are you essentially saying youre ok with a meaning even if its not true or what?
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#20 Snipes_2
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I never stopped believing. 18 Years now. :D

Obviously I was Born a Catholic. So, From birth until now.

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Hahaha, when I was little I was brain washed by the parents, up until I was 14 or so and could think for myself, I started having doubts, then I turned 15/16 and ya, stopped believing altogether.

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Being brought up in a semi-religious (we went to church most every Sunday) household I didn't begin to doubt until around 15 or so. I'd say the next 5-7 years I spent making up my mind what I believed, which got me to where I am now, an Atheist.
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I wasn't raised as a part of any religion. My parents gave me the choice to find my own path in life. So far, I haven't come to an appropriate conclusion, as I have strong feelings for and agianst the proof of a "God."
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I never really did.
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The question for me is whem did I stop caring? And it was right around the point I realized that if the christian god is real he is no better than a five year old in a sandbox that wont share.
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The question for me is whem did I stop caring? And it was right around the point I realized that if the christian god is real he is no better than a five year old in a sandbox that wont share.mattykovax

That doesn't make sense. So you believe in the Muslim God?

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[QUOTE="Free_Marxet"][QUOTE="hiphops_savior"]I still believe in God, and I don't think I'll be an atheist anytime soon. IMO, atheism just seems purposeless when it comes to explaining what are we here for. To me, Christianity changed me, it made me a better person, and it also gives me hope in the future. There's got to be something if Christianity preaches forgiveness, dealing with criticism gently and graciously, guaranteed salvation through faith, and having genuine humility. What kind of religion offers eternal salvation without you needing to earn it?

so,are you essentially saying youre ok with a meaning even if its not true or what?

Why not? I'm a much better person, and I'm happier too. Billions of people believed and their lives completely changed. If it is a lie, then Jesus has just deceived me and billions of people who was touched and believed in God.
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i was christian until i was 14 then i was on the fence now im an athiest

the reason i didnt want to be part of something or believe in a god that would send good people to hell just for not believing in him

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[QUOTE="mattykovax"]The question for me is whem did I stop caring? And it was right around the point I realized that if the christian god is real he is no better than a five year old in a sandbox that wont share.Snipes_2

That doesn't make sense. So you believe in the Muslim God?

Where exactly did the Muslim thing come in? And what he said made perfect sense
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A few weeks after finding the OT forums when I was 13 and reading the debates they had convinced me there is no god also did a little studying on my own.

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[QUOTE="Snipes_2"]

[QUOTE="mattykovax"]The question for me is whem did I stop caring? And it was right around the point I realized that if the christian god is real he is no better than a five year old in a sandbox that wont share.Free_Marxet

That doesn't make sense. So you believe in the Muslim God?

Where exactly did the Muslim thing come in? And what he said made perfect sense

HE said he doesn't believe in the "Christian God" specifically. So he believes in the Muslim God etc..?

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[QUOTE="mattykovax"]The question for me is whem did I stop caring? And it was right around the point I realized that if the christian god is real he is no better than a five year old in a sandbox that wont share.Snipes_2

That doesn't make sense. So you believe in the Muslim God?

How do you confuse muslim and christian? and the concept of "you have free will but to be favored you can only use it to choose me and then deny free will and live exactly how I say" sounds like a selfish adolescent to me.
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A few weeks after finding the OT forums when I was 13 and reading the debates they had convinced me there is no god also did a little studying on my own.

Communist_Soul

lol

tbh this was also part of the reason im an Atheist now

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#34 hiphops_savior
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i was christian until i was 14 then i was on the fence now im an athiest

the reason i didnt want to be part of something or believe in a god that would send good people to hell just for not believing in him

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What if I said that the good people out there put up a facade to show that they're good but in fact, are just attention seekers trying to shove it in everyone's face? What if a person giving money to the poor are just motivated to boast about it? Good people go to hell because their motives aren't pure, they have the original sin to thank for that. The root of all sin is selfishness, and anyone who says they're not motivated by self desire are either liars or delusional.
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[QUOTE="Free_Marxet"][QUOTE="Snipes_2"]

That doesn't make sense. So you believe in the Muslim God?

Snipes_2

Where exactly did the Muslim thing come in? And what he said made perfect sense

HE said he doesn't believe in the "Christian God" specifically. So he believes in the Muslim God etc..?

He never even stated that he believed in a god past that point, and to assume islam is ridiculous. He pointed out characteristics of the christian god
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[QUOTE="hiphops_savior"][QUOTE="spawnassasin"]

i was christian until i was 14 then i was on the fence now im an athiest

the reason i didnt want to be part of something or believe in a god that would send good people to hell just for not believing in him

What if I said that the good people out there put up a facade to show that they're good but in fact, are just attention seekers trying to shove it in everyone's face? What if a person giving money to the poor are just motivated to boast about it? Good people go to hell because their motives aren't pure, they have the original sin to thank for that. The root of all sin is selfishness, and anyone who says they're not motivated by self desire are either liars or delusional.

But this is what I am talking about. Its a catch22 and not fair or loving,regardless what the tacked on NT pamphlet part of the bible says.
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What if I said that the good people out there put up a facade to show that they're good but in fact, are just attention seekers trying to shove it in everyone's face? What if a person giving money to the poor are just motivated to boast about it? Good people go to hell because their motives aren't pure, they have the original sin to thank for that. The root of all sin is selfishness, and anyone who says they're not motivated by self desire are either liars or delusional.hiphops_savior

But i could just as well argue that people who ARE doing good things only do it because it makes them feel good, being nothing but egoistical. Just as easily i could argue that people who do good against their will are better people than those who do it with true meaning. See how frail these assumptions are? Just as fragile as the "truth" you think is true.

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Some time in high school. It was then that I finally started to think for myself.
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#39 FamiBox
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It's odd isn't it TC?

I can't possibly understand why people believe in god. I actually lol and facepalm myself into oblivion trying to contemplate it.

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[QUOTE="mattykovax"][QUOTE="hiphops_savior"][QUOTE="spawnassasin"]

i was christian until i was 14 then i was on the fence now im an athiest

the reason i didnt want to be part of something or believe in a god that would send good people to hell just for not believing in him

What if I said that the good people out there put up a facade to show that they're good but in fact, are just attention seekers trying to shove it in everyone's face? What if a person giving money to the poor are just motivated to boast about it? Good people go to hell because their motives aren't pure, they have the original sin to thank for that. The root of all sin is selfishness, and anyone who says they're not motivated by self desire are either liars or delusional.

But this is what I am talking about. Its a catch22 and not fair or loving,regardless what the tacked on NT pamphlet part of the bible says.

What makes you think that it's not fair or loving?
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[QUOTE="mattykovax"][QUOTE="hiphops_savior"] What if I said that the good people out there put up a facade to show that they're good but in fact, are just attention seekers trying to shove it in everyone's face? What if a person giving money to the poor are just motivated to boast about it? Good people go to hell because their motives aren't pure, they have the original sin to thank for that. The root of all sin is selfishness, and anyone who says they're not motivated by self desire are either liars or delusional.hiphops_savior
But this is what I am talking about. Its a catch22 and not fair or loving,regardless what the tacked on NT pamphlet part of the bible says.

What makes you think that it's not fair or loving?

because someone does something good and they get thrown in hell just because they didnt believe in god

that hardly sounds fair and loving

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[QUOTE="mattykovax"][QUOTE="hiphops_savior"] What if I said that the good people out there put up a facade to show that they're good but in fact, are just attention seekers trying to shove it in everyone's face? What if a person giving money to the poor are just motivated to boast about it? Good people go to hell because their motives aren't pure, they have the original sin to thank for that. The root of all sin is selfishness, and anyone who says they're not motivated by self desire are either liars or delusional.hiphops_savior
But this is what I am talking about. Its a catch22 and not fair or loving,regardless what the tacked on NT pamphlet part of the bible says.

What makes you think that it's not fair or loving?

I have already typed out how i feel earlier,I dont feel like typing it again.
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You act like there is something wrong with believing in God. There isn't. All of us, even the smartest human ever.. is not smart enough to comprehend and know everything. Our perception is really limited to out right say there is no such thing as a God is just as stupid as saying there absolutely is a God. Anyways, I questioned the possability of a God at the age of 4. And I remember it very well. I was raised as a catholic however, but never identified myself as one.

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Bleah, I never started.
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You act like there is something wrong with believing in God. There isn't. All of us, even the smartest human ever.. is not smart enough to comprehend and know everything. Our perception is really limited to out right say there is no such thing as a God is just as stupid as saying there absolutely is a God. Anyways, I questioned the possability of a God at the age of 4. And I remember it very well. I was raised as a catholic however, but never identified myself as one.

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You dont need to know everything to know the basis of believing in something that has zero evidence is illogical on many levels
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#46 hiphops_savior
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because someone does something good and they get thrown in hell just because they didnt believe in god

that hardly sounds fair and loving

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What if God forces everyone to believe in him? People will still complain about God not giving them a choice. God allows free will, and he is fair to allow a person to choose whether to receive Christ or to reject him. Would God be loving if he kept a person against their will? If the person is going to hell, it is out of their choice. Would heaven be paradise if the person doesn't want to be there?

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#47 mightychir
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I haven't entirely abandoned believing him but I still doubt his existence. I am still a catholic through tradition but I do ask myself "Is this just a way to make myself feel better? To depend on someone else who might not even exist?"
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#48 mattykovax
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[QUOTE="hiphops_savior"]

[QUOTE="spawnassasin"]

because someone does something good and they get thrown in hell just because they didnt believe in god

that hardly sounds fair and loving

What if God forces everyone to believe in him? People will still complain about God not giving them a choice. God allows free will, and he is fair to allow a person to choose whether to receive Christ or to reject him. Would God be loving if he kept a person against their will? If the person is going to hell, it is out of their choice. Would heaven be paradise if the person doesn't want to be there?

But just making that paradox is unfair. he could just love us regardless. No,he makes conditions that mean rejecting all those "gifts" of free will. Sorry but your god is unfair and selfish.
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#49 sensfanVone
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I still believe in God, however the way I view God and the actions taken by God has changed dramatically over the past few years.

I can`t shake the feeling there is a God, and I hate the fact that if what I seem to feel strongly is the truth about the afterlife is actually the truth I would have to choose between mindlessly worshipping a deity for the rest of eternity with no choice in the matter or burning in fire for the rest of eternity.

Neither sounds especially tempting to be honest...

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#50 mattykovax
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I still believe in God, however the way I view God and the actions taken by God has changed dramatically over the past few years.

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