Stephen Hawking says afterlife is a fairytale...

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[QUOTE="Necrifer"]

That's wrong. Religions can be based off anything.

So, I ask again. What would be the incentive for believing in such a religion?

GabuEx

I dont think there's a religion where the afterlife is a 100% definitive "burn forever" even for believers.

The Cult of Cthulhu comes pretty close. :P

[QUOTE="gaming25"][QUOTE="Nibroc420"] He said that "I regard the brain as a computer which will stop working when its components fail." So once your body shuts down, it's off. There's no more electricity going through your brain (known fact) and so you're unable to sense anything with your body, you're unable to think or breathe or talk. He used it because we dont know what happens to "living breathing organisms" when they die, no-one does.Nibroc420

Its insulting for him to say that because there are many people who believe because of different things.

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"][QUOTE="gaming25"] I think I understand that part of your point better. But also, what was taken out of context of what I said about him being insulting?gaming25

Its insulting for him to say that because there are many people who believe because of different things.

He's not trying to be insulting, he's saying that there are many people who are scared of the "dark" that happens once our brain shuts off (following his previous metaphor about computers) and as such believe in an afterlife so there's little to fear. You seem to have twisted that into an insult because it doesn't suit your beliefs.Nibroc420

Its insulting for him to say that because there are many people who believe because of different things.

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"][QUOTE="gaming25"]

Its insulting for him to say that because there are many people who believe because of different things.

gaming25

Also, no-one can have a "relationship" with a dead person.

[QUOTE="gaming25"][QUOTE="Nibroc420"] Is he supposed to address them all? No. It's a non issue bro.Nibroc420

Also, no-one can have a "relationship" with a dead person.

From a Christain point of view (which I am), he isnt dead. Anyway, I guess we'll have to agree to disagree on him being insulting.

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"][QUOTE="Nibroc420"]:P I didn't think cults counted as religion. Even still, the cult of Cthulhu is based off an H.P.Lovecraft creation, and I'm not going to take it very seriously.Nibroc420

Which doesn't stop people from being self-identified Jedi.

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"][QUOTE="foxhound_fox"] Cults are freshly created religions with a single, charismatic leader. And Scientology was created around the fiction of L. Ron Hubbard... and it has millions of devoted followers, so I don't know how you couldn't take the Cult of *clears throat* Cthulhu seriously.GabuEx

Which doesn't stop people from being self-identified Jedi.

of course it's a fairytale we don't need stephen hawking to tell us that.

Only seems logical, I've thought that way for quite some time now, doesn't take a genius to figure out.

You know, if Stephen Hawking was saying that there was an afterlife, atheists would be making fun of his disability. I never see theists make fun of his disability despite disagreeing with him on a number of issues.Genetic_Code

72 virgins would be a nice surprise.Nibroc420

lmao I don't think I want THAT amount of blood on my Johnson!!

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72 virgins would be a nice surprise.mywalletsgone

lmao I don't think I want THAT amount of blood on my Johnson!!

I've got to agree with Hawking in this case. While I don't discount the possibility of something "else" beyond our understanding, I think it is kind of arrogant of anyone to believe they are deserving of eternal life and bliss in an afterlife.

You know, if Stephen Hawking was saying that there was an afterlife, atheists would be making fun of his disability. I never see theists make fun of his disability despite disagreeing with him on a number of issues.Genetic_Code

How does he know? Iantheone

How does he know? Iantheone

[QUOTE="Iantheone"]How does he know? Nibroc420

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"][QUOTE="Iantheone"]How does he know? LJS9502_basic

Well he didn't, but it's like, imagine if everyone on this place went around saying "IMO" in big obnoxious capital letters every time they stated an opinion... would kinda get irritating! =p

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Nibroc420"] It's his opinion on the matter. How do you know he's wrong?mywalletsgone

Well he didn't, but it's like, imagine if everyone on this place went around saying "IMO" in big obnoxious capital letters every time they stated an opinion... would kinda get irritating! =p

You know, if Stephen Hawking was saying that there was an afterlife, atheists would be making fun of his disability. I never see theists make fun of his disability despite disagreeing with him on a number of issues.Genetic_Code

And you know this how?

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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] He didn't say that....LJS9502_basic

Well he didn't, but it's like, imagine if everyone on this place went around saying "IMO" in big obnoxious capital letters every time they stated an opinion... would kinda get irritating! =p

My point is, do we always have to explicitly say our statements are our opinion after we say something?

You know, if Stephen Hawking was saying that there was an afterlife, atheists would be making fun of his disability. I never see theists make fun of his disability despite disagreeing with him on a number of issues.Genetic_Code

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="mywalletsgone"]

Well he didn't, but it's like, imagine if everyone on this place went around saying "IMO" in big obnoxious capital letters every time they stated an opinion... would kinda get irritating! =p

mywalletsgone

My point is, do we always have to explicitly say our statements are our opinion after we say something?

[QUOTE="t3hrubikscube"]

I don't see how he's being an ass? He's just sharing his opinion. I don't think he's trying to state anything revolutionary, but rather he's just sharing his thoughts.

The only reason I can see why some of you people are getting so grumpy is that you're feeling threatened about your own existence/ideas of the afterlife/religion/whatever. It's his opinion, you have your own, calm down.

Necrifer

that is a fairy story for people afraid of the dark.

Stephen Hawking

Hm, yes. He could at least try to be a little more respectful of others' beliefs. That's the only problem I have with what he said.

Oh, give me a break. Let me guess, another offended Christian from an Atheistic belief? So hypocritcal.

As for Hawkins' view... I"m sure there are many people that have a more logical perception on life side with him. He pretty much summed it up for me.

You know, if Stephen Hawking was saying that there was an afterlife, atheists would be making fun of his disability. I never see theists make fun of his disability despite disagreeing with him on a number of issues.Genetic_Code

sorry but most atheists i know are not hipocrits who need a big bad invisible guy watching over us to be decent.

As for Hawkins' view... I"m sure there are many people that have a more logical perception on life side with him. He pretty much summed it up for me.

Optical_Order

[QUOTE="Optical_Order"]

As for Hawkins' view... I"m sure there are many people that have a more logical perception on life side with him. He pretty much summed it up for me.

LJS9502_basic

What is the logical side to there being an afterlife?

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[QUOTE="Optical_Order"]

As for Hawkins' view... I"m sure there are many people that have a more logical perception on life side with him. He pretty much summed it up for me.

Optical_Order

What is the logical side to there being an afterlife?

I liked him best on South Park..In real life he is boring.>_>

I don't think he's quiet thought this through. How can he be sure of a thing he has never experienced?

Just because one doesn't see something, doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

[QUOTE="Optical_Order"]

As for Hawkins' view... I"m sure there are many people that have a more logical perception on life side with him. He pretty much summed it up for me.

LJS9502_basic

I'm probably wrong, but doesn't Occam's razor apply here? The existance of an after life would require many new assumptions (the existance of God, the existance of an immortal soul, a supernatural plane of existance, etc), while nothingness after death would require no new assumptions. Thus, the lack of an after life is the simpler of the two theories and therefore the more logical one.

[QUOTE="Optical_Order"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Hmm...logically one can say neither yes nor no.

LJS9502_basic

What is the logical side to there being an afterlife?

:)

If you can say yes or no 'logically', there obviously a logical explanation either way. I was asking for the logical opinion for the idea that "yes, there is an afterlife".

[QUOTE="Optical_Order"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Hmm...logically one can say neither yes nor no.

LJS9502_basic

What is the logical side to there being an afterlife?

[QUOTE="Optical_Order"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Hmm...logically one can say neither yes nor no.

LJS9502_basic

What is the logical side to there being an afterlife?

Can say yes or no to what? Your post makes no sense.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Optical_Order"]

What is the logical side to there being an afterlife?

raynimrod

Can say yes or no to what? Your post makes no sense.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Optical_Order"]

What is the logical side to there being an afterlife?

Nibroc420

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Optical_Order"]

What is the logical side to there being an afterlife?

raynimrod

Can say yes or no to what? Your post makes no sense.

I don't think he's quiet thought this through. How can he be sure of a thing he has never experienced?

Just because one doesn't see something, doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

outworld222

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] Logically one can SAY neither yes nor no. I'm not sure why you misread my post.LJS9502_basic