SWAT team busts into house and kills 2 puppies over a gram of weed

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#51 sammyjenkis898
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http://www.columbiatribune.com/news/2010/feb/23/family-questions-swat-drug-search-that-led-to/

"A second dog, which Whitworth's attorney Jeff Hilbrenner described as a corgi, also was shot but was not killed."

It also said that the pitbull had to be restrained;therefor, it could not have been caged.

Never does it say that either were puppies.

You people need to learn how to think for yourselves before trusting random people on the internet.

STurn21

"The pit bull was shot seven times."

If this dog was actually "impossible to be restrained," then why not, you know, try an easier way of calming him down, instead of shooting him seven times. If you have to shoot the dog (which is quite silly considering this is SWAT,) then do it once, not seven times. That's just ridiculous.

It never states what the Corgi was doing, yet they shot him.

None of it seems right.

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#52 Snipes_2
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There's a reason Swat was sent in. I'm sure it was more than just some Marijuana.

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#54 Jfisch93
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[QUOTE="Jfisch93"]

What a disturbing video... seriously this is just another reason why weed needs to be legal.

bruinfan617

That was a really stupid thing to say. That being said, that video pisses me off.

would you care to state why instead of just insulting me?

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#55 MasterBolt360
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Could we make weed legal already so none of this **** happens?

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#56 LastCaveMan
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There's a reason Swat was sent in. I'm sure it was more than just some Marijuana.

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yeah, maybe he had WMDs

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#57 Treflis
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There's a reason Swat was sent in. I'm sure it was more than just some Marijuana.

Snipes_2
Yet they only found, and I quote, "Police discovered a grinder, a pipe and a small amount of marijuana"
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#58 Snipes_2
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[QUOTE="Snipes_2"]

There's a reason Swat was sent in. I'm sure it was more than just some Marijuana.

LastCaveMan

yeah, maybe he had WMDs

Why bother replying if you're just going to post a Sarcastic remark?
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#59 KHAndAnime
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Weed is some serious business.
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#60 sammyjenkis898
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It never says that the dog was shot seven times, stop making things up and/or actually read the article.

STurn21

Stop making invalid conclusions to prove your point.

SWAT team breaks into home, fires seven rounds at family's pit bull and corgi (?!) as a seven-year-old looks on. theagiatior

Seven shots were fired. You're telling me it takes seven shots to stop two dogs, once of which that has had no indication of bothering them? Not a chance.

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#61 Snipes_2
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[QUOTE="Snipes_2"]

There's a reason Swat was sent in. I'm sure it was more than just some Marijuana.

Treflis
Yet they only found, and I quote, "Police discovered a grinder, a pipe and a small amount of marijuana"

"A police SWAT team entered Whitworth's residence around 8:30 p.m. suspecting a large amount of marijuana at the location. Because the SWAT team acts on the most updated information available, the team wanted to enter the house before marijuana believed to be at the location could be distributed. Drug distributors traditionally have a history with firearms, which is why the SWAT team is used when executing such warrants, Haden said. If the SWAT team believed they could have executed the warrant successfully during the daytime when the wife and child were not present, they would have, she said." Yeah...
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#62 legend26
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There's a reason Swat was sent in. I'm sure it was more than just some Marijuana.

Snipes_2

the article said it was just a small amount of marijuana, a pipe, and a grinder.....WE GOT US A DRUG LORD!!!

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#63 MasterBolt360
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[QUOTE="Snipes_2"]

There's a reason Swat was sent in. I'm sure it was more than just some Marijuana.

legend26

the article said it was just a small amount of marijuana, a pipe, and a grinder.....WE GOT US A DRUG LORD!!!

I also heard rumors he hid millions in his mattress! :O
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#64 legend26
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[QUOTE="Treflis"][QUOTE="Snipes_2"]

There's a reason Swat was sent in. I'm sure it was more than just some Marijuana.

Snipes_2

Yet they only found, and I quote, "Police discovered a grinder, a pipe and a small amount of marijuana"

"A police SWAT team entered Whitworth's residence around 8:30 p.m. suspecting a large amount of marijuana at the location. Because the SWAT team acts on the most updated information available, the team wanted to enter the house before marijuana believed to be at the location could be distributed. Drug distributors traditionally have a history with firearms, which is why the SWAT team is used when executing such warrants, Haden said. If the SWAT team believed they could have executed the warrant successfully during the daytime when the wife and child were not present, they would have, she said." Yeah...

did they discover a large amount of weed? no...

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[QUOTE="Treflis"][QUOTE="Snipes_2"]

There's a reason Swat was sent in. I'm sure it was more than just some Marijuana.

Snipes_2
Yet they only found, and I quote, "Police discovered a grinder, a pipe and a small amount of marijuana"

"A police SWAT team entered Whitworth's residence around 8:30 p.m. suspecting a large amount of marijuana at the location. Because the SWAT team acts on the most updated information available, the team wanted to enter the house before marijuana believed to be at the location could be distributed. Drug distributors traditionally have a history with firearms, which is why the SWAT team is used when executing such warrants, Haden said. If the SWAT team believed they could have executed the warrant successfully during the daytime when the wife and child were not present, they would have, she said." Yeah...

Sounds to me then that the intel they had was way off.
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#66 Snipes_2
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[QUOTE="Snipes_2"]

There's a reason Swat was sent in. I'm sure it was more than just some Marijuana.

legend26

the article said it was just a small amount of marijuana, a pipe, and a grinder.....WE GOT US A DRUG LORD!!!

In my other post I quoted exactly what they were going by.
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#67 bruinfan617
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[QUOTE="Jfisch93"]

[QUOTE="bruinfan617"][QUOTE="Jfisch93"]

What a disturbing video... seriously this is just another reason why weed needs to be legal.

That was a really stupid thing to say. That being said, that video pisses me off.

would you care to state why instead of just insulting me?

I wasn't insulting you, I was insulting your statement. And this could have happended in any situation. Whether the guy had weapons, crack, etc.
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#69 Snipes_2
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[QUOTE="Snipes_2"][QUOTE="Treflis"]Yet they only found, and I quote, "Police discovered a grinder, a pipe and a small amount of marijuana"Treflis
"A police SWAT team entered Whitworth's residence around 8:30 p.m. suspecting a large amount of marijuana at the location. Because the SWAT team acts on the most updated information available, the team wanted to enter the house before marijuana believed to be at the location could be distributed. Drug distributors traditionally have a history with firearms, which is why the SWAT team is used when executing such warrants, Haden said. If the SWAT team believed they could have executed the warrant successfully during the daytime when the wife and child were not present, they would have, she said." Yeah...

Sounds to me then that the intel they had was way off.

Drug Dealers do have a History with firearms. So? Their intelligence was off, they acted appropriately to the situation. I don't know what the Corgi was doing, but the Pitbull was reportedly acting in an aggressive manner.
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http://www.columbiatribune.com/news/2010/feb/23/family-questions-swat-drug-search-that-led-to/

"A second dog, which Whitworth's attorney Jeff Hilbrenner described as a corgi, also was shot but was not killed."

It also said that the pitbull had to be restrained;therefor, it could not have been caged.

Never does it say that either were puppies.

You people need to learn how to think for yourselves before trusting random people on the internet.

STurn21

Maybe the guy who posted the vid overexaggerated.

But do you really expect the SWAT team who carried this out to come out and admit that they shot the dog that was in the cage? They could have easily taken the dog's body out of the cage to make it look better. They said it was "acting uncontrollably". Yeah, no ****, I think a dog be barking when a bunch of guys in black armor come smashing through the front door armed with shotguns shouting. As for the Corgi, it is such a tiny dog that no matter how old it is i call it a "puppy". Was the Corgi "uncontrollable" too? Was it endangering a bunch of guys wearing full bulletproof armor? Even if it survived the shooting, there is no way at all it lived for long after that.

but the shooting of the dogs wasn't really the worst part. the worst part was the children saw it and were forced to hear their father crying "you killed my dog".

police always try to justify everything they do, don't always believe everything they come out and say.

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#71 Snipes_2
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[QUOTE="Snipes_2"][QUOTE="Treflis"]Yet they only found, and I quote, "Police discovered a grinder, a pipe and a small amount of marijuana"legend26

"A police SWAT team entered Whitworth's residence around 8:30 p.m. suspecting a large amount of marijuana at the location. Because the SWAT team acts on the most updated information available, the team wanted to enter the house before marijuana believed to be at the location could be distributed. Drug distributors traditionally have a history with firearms, which is why the SWAT team is used when executing such warrants, Haden said. If the SWAT team believed they could have executed the warrant successfully during the daytime when the wife and child were not present, they would have, she said." Yeah...

did they discover a large amount of weed? no...

They were going by the intelligence they received and previous altercations.
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#72 balls_out
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A SWAT team?! God, thats a tad excessive for just one damn gram of weed.

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Seriously, I thought it was BS that they did this kind of stuff when shown cop video of people in PE and Health class, but daaaaamn. They really do this kind of stuff, for just weed! Not like weed hurts anyone, neither did those dogs, I'm sure. Messed up!
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#73 KlepticGrooves
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I don't know how US law enforcement works, but was a SWAT team really needed for a drugs raid? In the UK you'll most likely have some normal police officers smash through your door armed with tazor-guns.

Sending a SWAT team just seems like they're using a sledgehammer to crack a nut.

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#74 darkchrisify
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Sick bastards:evil:

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#77 jo-joGun
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I've seen a dog on meth and it took seven dogs to bring him down.
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#78 sammyjenkis898
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A. You quoted "theagiatior". Great source.

B. You are making the unwise assumption that "seven shots fired" means "seven hits". This isn't call of duty.

C. Do you know anything about pit bulls? A pit bull could easily survive multiple gunshots.

STurn21

The "source" is from the actual video. You can hear seven shots being fired.

:|

Are you freaking kidding me? They shouldn't be on the SWAT if they would miss shooting a target at such a close range.

Ah, yes. After nine seconds from them busting in the house, they shoot the dog, hearing it yelp in pain, and then decide to shoot the dog again to kill it.

It surviving has nothing to do with their actions. If the dog was impossible to handle, then they could have shot it once. It wouldn't have posed a thread after that.

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#79 Vesica_Prime
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[QUOTE="Vesica_Prime"]

A SWAT team?! God, thats a tad excessive for just one damn gram of weed.

balls_out

Seriously, I thought it was BS that they did this kind of stuff when shown cop video of people in PE and Health class, but daaaaamn. They really do this kind of stuff, for just weed! Not like weed hurts anyone, neither did those dogs, I'm sure. Messed up!

1 gram of weed is a personal supply, also what about alcohol and ciggarettes? They're more or less the same thing only its legal to get hold of them.

Plus the SWAT team is for high risk operations, I doubt just a person with a personal supply of weed requires an amount of force that would be used against a personal driving a car bomb. They could have just used the regular police force to do this operation.

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[QUOTE="Snipes_2"][QUOTE="Treflis"][QUOTE="Snipes_2"] "A police SWAT team entered Whitworth's residence around 8:30 p.m. suspecting a large amount of marijuana at the location. Because the SWAT team acts on the most updated information available, the team wanted to enter the house before marijuana believed to be at the location could be distributed. Drug distributors traditionally have a history with firearms, which is why the SWAT team is used when executing such warrants, Haden said. If the SWAT team believed they could have executed the warrant successfully during the daytime when the wife and child were not present, they would have, she said." Yeah...

Sounds to me then that the intel they had was way off.

Drug Dealers do have a History with firearms. So? Their intelligence was off, they acted appropriately to the situation. I don't know what the Corgi was doing, but the Pitbull was reportedly acting in an aggressive manner.

Wouldn't it be more appropriate to double if not triple check the intel before they act on it? Granted they might have but when you expect a large amount of drugs and you get a small bag, a pipe and a grinder then the intel seems far from reliable.
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[QUOTE="Snipes_2"][QUOTE="Treflis"]Sounds to me then that the intel they had was way off.Treflis
Drug Dealers do have a History with firearms. So? Their intelligence was off, they acted appropriately to the situation. I don't know what the Corgi was doing, but the Pitbull was reportedly acting in an aggressive manner.

Wouldn't it be more appropriate to double if not triple check the intel before they act on it? Granted they might have but when you expect a large amount of drugs and you get a small bag, a pipe and a grinder then the intel seems far from reliable.

It's not their fault the Intelligence was faulty. They acted on what they thought was the situation.
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That kid will be pretty traumatized. Those guys are awful people, and the whole situation was handled ridiculously poorly. It's guys like that that give the police such a bad rep.

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[QUOTE="legend26"]

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"] "A police SWAT team entered Whitworth's residence around 8:30 p.m. suspecting a large amount of marijuana at the location. Because the SWAT team acts on the most updated information available, the team wanted to enter the house before marijuana believed to be at the location could be distributed. Drug distributors traditionally have a history with firearms, which is why the SWAT team is used when executing such warrants, Haden said. If the SWAT team believed they could have executed the warrant successfully during the daytime when the wife and child were not present, they would have, she said." Yeah...Snipes_2

did they discover a large amount of weed? no...

They were going by the intelligence they received and previous altercations.

did they really expect a home owned by a father with a wife and 2 small children and freaking corgis to be stapped to the teeth with AK47s and other weapons?

no matter which way you look at it, these guys WAAAAY overreacted. Also i love how they keep ignoring the guy when he is cying "why did you shoot my dog!?"

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I didn't know this before, but apparently the SWAT didn't even knock on their door.

:roll:

A Maryland mayor is asking the federal government to investigate why SWAT team members burst into his home without knocking and shot his two dogs to death in an investigation into a drug smuggling scheme.CNN

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did they really expect a home owned by a father with a wife and 2 small children and freaking corgis to be stapped to the teeth with AK47s and other weapons?

no matter which way you look at it, these guys WAAAAY overreacted. Also i love how they keep ignoring the guy when he is cying "why did you shoot my dog!?"

legend26

Why wouldn't it be? It shoudn't really suprise anybody.

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#86 Treflis
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[QUOTE="Treflis"][QUOTE="Snipes_2"] Drug Dealers do have a History with firearms. So? Their intelligence was off, they acted appropriately to the situation. I don't know what the Corgi was doing, but the Pitbull was reportedly acting in an aggressive manner. Snipes_2
Wouldn't it be more appropriate to double if not triple check the intel before they act on it? Granted they might have but when you expect a large amount of drugs and you get a small bag, a pipe and a grinder then the intel seems far from reliable.

It's not their fault the Intelligence was faulty. They acted on what they thought was the situation.

Not saying it was their fault, just saying that they should've checked to see if the intel was atleast 90% reliable.

Their intel could as far as we know have been provided by a neighboor who just doesn't like the family.

But this isn't really worth debating on as we don't know the source of their information ourselves we just know what they say the Intel claimed.

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#87 Snipes_2
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[QUOTE="Snipes_2"][QUOTE="legend26"]

did they discover a large amount of weed? no...

legend26

They were going by the intelligence they received and previous altercations.

did they really expect a home owned by a father with a wife and 2 small children and freaking corgis to be stapped to the teeth with AK47s and other weapons?

no matter which way you look at it, these guys WAAAAY overreacted. Also i love how they keep ignoring the guy when he is cying "why did you shoot my dog!?"

I don't know, It's been known to happen.
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The child endangerment and possession of marijuana charges were dropped. He still plead guilty to possession of drug paraphernalia. The family hasn't filed a complaint against the SWAT team yet.
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[QUOTE="Snipes_2"][QUOTE="Treflis"]Wouldn't it be more appropriate to double if not triple check the intel before they act on it? Granted they might have but when you expect a large amount of drugs and you get a small bag, a pipe and a grinder then the intel seems far from reliable.Treflis

It's not their fault the Intelligence was faulty. They acted on what they thought was the situation.

Not saying it was their fault, just saying that they should've checked to see if the intel was atleast 90% reliable.

Their intel could as far as we know have been provided by a neighboor who just doesn't like the family.

But this isn't really worth debating on as we don't know the source of their information ourselves we just know what they say the Intel claimed.

Well, I don't know if they checked it or not. Doesn't say. Okay, Guess we'll leave it at that then :)
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OMG! A CAGED DOG!

What a threat :roll:

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I find it strange that OT feels more saddened about a couple of dogs dying than children getting slashed to death.
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#92 legend26
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The child endangerment and possession of marijuana charges were dropped. He still plead guilty to possession of drug paraphernalia. The family hasn't filed a complaint against the SWAT team yet.
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i would sue them of every penny and strip them of their badges

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What i would like to know is why couldnt they wait for the children to go to school or wait for him to come outside first? I understand that they wanted the element of surprise but was it worth endangering the children to do it?
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#94 balls_out
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1 gram of weed is a personal supply, also what about alcohol and ciggarettes? They're more or less the same thing only its legal to get hold of them.

Plus the SWAT team is for high risk operations, I doubt just a person with a personal supply of weed requires an amount of force that would be used against a personal driving a car bomb. They could have just used the regular police force to do this operation.

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Yeah, they could have just gotten two officers to knock on the door. No shootings, no dead dogs, nothing.

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#95 sammyjenkis898
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[QUOTE="Vesica_Prime"]

1 gram of weed is a personal supply, also what about alcohol and ciggarettes? They're more or less the same thing only its legal to get hold of them.

Plus the SWAT team is for high risk operations, I doubt just a person with a personal supply of weed requires an amount of force that would be used against a personal driving a car bomb. They could have just used the regular police force to do this operation.

balls_out

Yeah, they could have just gotten two officers to knock on the door. No shootings, no dead dogs, nothing.

Pretty much. It's absurd that a SWAT team was needed for such a small case.
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[QUOTE="Vesica_Prime"]

1 gram of weed is a personal supply, also what about alcohol and ciggarettes? They're more or less the same thing only its legal to get hold of them.

Plus the SWAT team is for high risk operations, I doubt just a person with a personal supply of weed requires an amount of force that would be used against a personal driving a car bomb. They could have just used the regular police force to do this operation.

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Yeah, they could have just gotten two officers to knock on the door. No shootings, no dead dogs, nothing.

In this scenario that'd be correct.

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#97 SgtKevali
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Fake. Why would the cops record this? Is that some policy?

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#98 Shottayouth13-
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Yet people talk about kill streaks when some Chinese wacko stabs over 20 kindergarten children. :roll:

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#99 bruinfan617
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Fake. Why would the cops record this? Is that some policy?

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Yah it's fake, people can obtain authentic SWAT uniforms so easily.
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#100 WheresKinggiAt
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Not going to do any research on this but they don't randomly call in SWAT teams for a gram. More than likely the person was far more involved in the drug world than was let on or the police recieved a considerable amount of faulty information. I don't believe this is possible but even if it is than chalk it up as a hazard of the system.

The fact that the family hasn't filed a complaint is basically admitted that they luckboxed and the father has a substantially higher amount of illegal dealings than one gram of weed.