SWAT team busts into house and kills 2 puppies over a gram of weed

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#451 whipassmt
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbwSwvUaRqc&feature=player_embedded

In front of the children, holding father at gunpoint, then charges the father with child endangerment. The one they shot when they entered the house was sleeping in a cage, the other was a Corgi.

Over less then a gram of weed. I don't do drugs, Ineverplan on doingdrugs, but I respect the rights of people to own a small baggie of dried up leaves without having their puppies killed and their children traumatized for life. I hope these guys lose their jobs and get beaten in prison.

n00bproof

A gram of weed and SWAT gets sent? Couldn't 2 cops have just gone in or did they have information indicating the guy was armed and dangerous. I'm not going to watch that video, but please tell me they shot the puppies by accident.

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#452 shinian
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[QUOTE="n00bproof"]

I don't do drugs, Ineverplan on doingdrugs, but I respect the rights of people to own a small baggie of dried up leaves without having their puppies killed and their children traumatized for life. I hope these guys lose their jobs and get beaten in prison.

Hemmaroids

The law is the law. People don't have rights to own weed if it is against the law.

Same goes for breaking the speed limits. I wonder when the SWAT teams will start delivering the tickets in this friendly manner.

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#453 ex-mortis
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I think a very important point needs to be reiterated. From what I can tell, this was supposed to be a full on drug bust. You know like in those crime movies were there are guys doing cocaine with heavy weaponry around them and a ton of drugs in the area. This wasn't supposed to be for one bag of marijuana. They got wrong intelligence and they acted upon that intelligence, and did a fine job at it. They expected some resistance so the dogs could've very well be trained to distract or hurt anyone coming in. Can't blame the SWAT officers for being careful, although shooting a dog that innocent was unnecessary. People make mistakes though, and given their expectations they could not afford to ask questions first and then shoot.

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[QUOTE="Hemmaroids"][QUOTE="n00bproof"]

I don't do drugs, Ineverplan on doingdrugs, but I respect the rights of people to own a small baggie of dried up leaves without having their puppies killed and their children traumatized for life. I hope these guys lose their jobs and get beaten in prison.

shinian

The law is the law. People don't have rights to own weed if it is against the law.

Same goes for breaking the speed limits. I wonder when the SWAT teams will start delivering the tickets in this friendly manner.

We are not too far away from seeing roadblocks and searches.
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#455 TehFuneral
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What a sick world

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I think a very important point needs to be reiterated. From what I can tell, this was supposed to be a full on drug bust. You know like in those crime movies were there are guys doing cocaine with heavy weaponry around them and a ton of drugs in the area. This wasn't supposed to be for one bag of marijuana. They got wrong intelligence and they acted upon that intelligence, and did a fine job at it. They expected some resistance so the dogs could've very well be trained to distract or hurt anyone coming in. Can't blame the SWAT officers for being careful, although shooting a dog that innocent was unnecessary. People make mistakes though, and given their expectations they could not afford to ask questions first and then shoot.

ex-mortis

that makes sense. Intelligence is super important. Sad situation nevertheless, but understandable.

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#457 jer_1
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This is why I hate ALL cops. They are barely human any more because of the military training they recieve, "us against them" is the way they roll. I hope they get the crap sued out of them, they should lose their jobs for this.

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#458 jer_1
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I think a very important point needs to be reiterated. From what I can tell, this was supposed to be a full on drug bust. You know like in those crime movies were there are guys doing cocaine with heavy weaponry around them and a ton of drugs in the area. This wasn't supposed to be for one bag of marijuana. They got wrong intelligence and they acted upon that intelligence, and did a fine job at it. They expected some resistance so the dogs could've very well be trained to distract or hurt anyone coming in. Can't blame the SWAT officers for being careful, although shooting a dog that innocent was unnecessary. People make mistakes though, and given their expectations they could not afford to ask questions first and then shoot.

ex-mortis

Nice excuse, but shooting a caged dog? You're in the wrong here man, everyone else should know that after seeing the video. I can blame them, they didn't have to take the actions they did. A bunch of raged out (most likely roid raged) SWAT cops in action, that's all I saw.

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#459 deactivated-6127ced9bcba0
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Nice excuse, but shooting a caged dog? You're in the wrong here man, everyone else should know that after seeing the video. I can blame them, they didn't have to take the actions they did. A bunch of raged out (most likely roid raged) SWAT cops in action, that's all I saw.

jer_1

Nice generalization. Considering most police departments conduct regular piss tests, and steroids are illegal.

Bang up job depicting the situation, chief.

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#460 ex-mortis
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[QUOTE="ex-mortis"]

I think a very important point needs to be reiterated. From what I can tell, this was supposed to be a full on drug bust. You know like in those crime movies were there are guys doing cocaine with heavy weaponry around them and a ton of drugs in the area. This wasn't supposed to be for one bag of marijuana. They got wrong intelligence and they acted upon that intelligence, and did a fine job at it. They expected some resistance so the dogs could've very well be trained to distract or hurt anyone coming in. Can't blame the SWAT officers for being careful, although shooting a dog that innocent was unnecessary. People make mistakes though, and given their expectations they could not afford to ask questions first and then shoot.

jer_1

Nice excuse, but shooting a caged dog? You're in the wrong here man, everyone else should know that after seeing the video. I can blame them, they didn't have to take the actions they did. A bunch of raged out (most likely roid raged) SWAT cops in action, that's all I saw.

I never said I condoned the killing of that dog and I surely never said the cops were 100% innocent, I'm just making inferences as to why they would shoot the dog. It's easy to blame corruption and such and them just being flat out sadists killing the dog like that, but that doesn't necessarily have to be true. They could be exactly the kind of filthy pigs everyone is making them out to be, and at the same time they could be human beings that made a mistake.

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#461 Stanley09
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F the DEA! I wonder what their job description is? "Looking for overaggressive cops who love to kill innocent dogs and be a dickhead! Become a DEA officer today!" to hell with the DEA
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#462 dreamdude
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Bet they probably thought the dogs were stashing kibbles and bits:(

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#463 Stanley09
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On the youtube video of this is the police stations phone number. I encourage everyone to call and voice your complaints!
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#464 n00bkid
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And that's one of the MANY reasons why i hate pigs.
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#465 chrisrooR
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This is quite possibly one of the most unconstitutional things I've ever seen. The children who witnessed this will no doubt have psychological trauma. Those pigs.
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On the youtube video of this is the police stations phone number. I encourage everyone to call and voice your complaints!Stanley09
Whereabouts is the phone number, I'm going to call right now.
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I reckon the cops were somewhat right in going in with heavy armor, they thought he was a dealer. And with shooting the dogs it was most likely dark and they might have thought they were some sort of attack dogs (drug dealers have them).

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#469 LastCaveMan
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if George Washington saw this...

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#470 Stanley09
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[QUOTE="Stanley09"]On the youtube video of this is the police stations phone number. I encourage everyone to call and voice your complaints!chrisrooR
Whereabouts is the phone number, I'm going to call right now.

(573)-874-7404
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#471 bruinfan617
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I don't understand this wjole "all cops are corrupt, I hate all cops" nonsense. It's just as bad as non comedic racial stereotypes.

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#472 matthayter700
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This thread needs to die. (Kind of like that pit bull)

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Why should the thread die? Stuff like this needs to be discussed. Anyway, as others have pointed out, they needed to enter aggressively because if this guy turned out to be a major drug dealer he could've been armed and had guard dogs ready to rip the officers to shreds. I say blame whoever issued a search warrant for this house. The very need for a search warrant is such that those who issued it are held accountable for the consequences of it. It's time for whoever issued this search warrant to own up to the consequences.
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#473 chrisrooR
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I reckon the cops were somewhat right in going in with heavy armor, they thought he was a dealer. And with shooting the dogs it was most likely dark and they might have thought they were some sort of attack dogs (drug dealers have them).

SgtKevali
Around children? As far as I can tell from the video evidence, the police were not shot at, nor did they meet any force whatsoever upon entering the house. What they did was plain wrong, unconstitutional and each and every one of those officers should be put on trial. Not to mention that one of the dogs was CAGED, UNABLE TO ATTACK THE OFFICERS. They then went on to shoot that very dog seven times. Also, after the fact, he was not a drug dealer. In fact, he seemed to be a parent who occasionally used marijuana. It's almost as if this video should be used as an example of a police-state.
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#474 Stanley09
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[QUOTE="STurn21"]

This thread needs to die. (Kind of like that pit bull)

matthayter700
Why should the thread die? Stuff like this needs to be discussed. Anyway, as others have pointed out, they needed to enter aggressively because if this guy turned out to be a major drug dealer he could've been armed and had guard dogs ready to rip the officers to shreds. I say blame whoever issued a search warrant for this house. The very need for a search warrant is such that those who issued it are held accountable for the consequences of it. It's time for whoever issued this search warrant to own up to the consequences.

I say blame the DEA for all the nonsense they cause
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[QUOTE="chrisrooR"][QUOTE="SgtKevali"]

I reckon the cops were somewhat right in going in with heavy armor, they thought he was a dealer. And with shooting the dogs it was most likely dark and they might have thought they were some sort of attack dogs (drug dealers have them).

Around children? As far as I can tell from the video evidence, the police were not shot at, nor did they meet any force whatsoever upon entering the house. What they did was plain wrong, unconstitutional and each and every one of those officers should be put on trial. Not to mention that one of the dogs was CAGED, UNABLE TO ATTACK THE OFFICERS. They then went on to shoot that very dog seven times. Also, after the fact, he was not a drug dealer. In fact, he seemed to be a parent who occasionally used marijuana. It's almost as if this video should be used as an example of a police-state.

Question is, how were they to know wthether this person was a drug dealer or not? They acted on an anonymous tip... not really proof, but then again the very arguments for keeping pot illegal seem not to be based on accurate facts to begin with. I don't think the blame should be focused on the officers; they had no idea what to expect from the house. The blame should be focused on whoever issued that search warrant in the first place.
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[QUOTE="matthayter700"][QUOTE="chrisrooR"][QUOTE="SgtKevali"]

I reckon the cops were somewhat right in going in with heavy armor, they thought he was a dealer. And with shooting the dogs it was most likely dark and they might have thought they were some sort of attack dogs (drug dealers have them).

Around children? As far as I can tell from the video evidence, the police were not shot at, nor did they meet any force whatsoever upon entering the house. What they did was plain wrong, unconstitutional and each and every one of those officers should be put on trial. Not to mention that one of the dogs was CAGED, UNABLE TO ATTACK THE OFFICERS. They then went on to shoot that very dog seven times. Also, after the fact, he was not a drug dealer. In fact, he seemed to be a parent who occasionally used marijuana. It's almost as if this video should be used as an example of a police-state.

Question is, how were they to know wthether this person was a drug dealer or not? They acted on an anonymous tip... not really proof, but then again the very arguments for keeping pot illegal seem not to be based on accurate facts to begin with. I don't think the blame should be focused on the officers; they had no idea what to expect from the house. The blame should be focused on whoever issued that search warrant in the first place.

The blame is the fault of the officers just as much as it is whoever issued the warrant. The police officers could have simply entered the home and made their presence known. The man was obviously cooperative with them, so I still see no real reason as to WHY THE CAGED DOG WAS SHOT SEVERAL TIMES. This is just another example of trigger happy police officers who act as if they're in a war zone.
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[QUOTE="SgtKevali"]

I reckon the cops were somewhat right in going in with heavy armor, they thought he was a dealer. And with shooting the dogs it was most likely dark and they might have thought they were some sort of attack dogs (drug dealers have them).

chrisrooR

Around children? As far as I can tell from the video evidence, the police were not shot at, nor did they meet any force whatsoever upon entering the house. What they did was plain wrong, unconstitutional and each and every one of those officers should be put on trial. Not to mention that one of the dogs was CAGED, UNABLE TO ATTACK THE OFFICERS. They then went on to shoot that very dog seven times. Also, after the fact, he was not a drug dealer. In fact, he seemed to be a parent who occasionally used marijuana. It's almost as if this video should be used as an example of a police-state.

Like I said, they thought he was a drug dealer, and they probably thought they were attack dogs. Plus it's the heat of the moment, you have to account for that.

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Wow first off that is so sad...for the kids the dogs the entire family. If someone did that to my dogs...lets just say the dogs wouldn't be the only ones hurting. Either I'd end up tazed/shot or the police would be dead and I'd go to prsion. Don't mean to sound violent but shooting a persons dog is like shooting someone's family member at least to me it is. I'm with you OP, I hope these police face severe punishment. I mean wow...just wow if I see them (not that I know what they look like I'm not brave enough to watch the vid)they had better stay far away from me. I swear this story makes me ridiculously mad.

I'll admit I'm a big dog lover and may love dogs more than others, but this is beyond horrible to bad its not feudal times and we can't put the police offers in the stocks then saw there hands off. Oops I'm getting violent again,but this story is just gosh...terrible. Every time I think about it again it makes me want to hurt the men who did it. The dogs weren't posing a threat and the family had a little bit of weed c'mon. I don't do drugs either, but what was the point of shooting the dogs...for any reason much less over a crime, that is a tiny step up from a mis-demeanor.

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And am I the only one who suspects that people's reactions to this story would be different if instead of finding marijuana, the officers had found heroin or crack?

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#481 TacticalDesire
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And am I the only one who suspects that people's reactions to this story would be different if instead of finding marijuana, the officers had found heroin or crack?

MrGeezer

My reaction wouldn't be much different, slightly but not a lot. The dogs had nothing to do with what the people were doing sooo...

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#482 MrGeezer
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[QUOTE="MrGeezer"]

And am I the only one who suspects that people's reactions to this story would be different if instead of finding marijuana, the officers had found heroin or crack?

TacticalDesire

My reaction wouldn't be much different, slightly but not a lot. The dogs had nothing to do with what the people were doing sooo...

And yet a hell of a lot of people here ARE talking about the small bag of weed, as if it were even the least bit relevant to the situation.

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Just saw the video and I can't believe they did this. Why did they have to kill dogs? ********

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#484 Gnomefan
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I do think that man was guilty of child endangerment, but that doesn't mean they can go in shooting puppies.

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[QUOTE="matthayter700"][QUOTE="chrisrooR"][QUOTE="SgtKevali"]

I reckon the cops were somewhat right in going in with heavy armor, they thought he was a dealer. And with shooting the dogs it was most likely dark and they might have thought they were some sort of attack dogs (drug dealers have them).

Around children? As far as I can tell from the video evidence, the police were not shot at, nor did they meet any force whatsoever upon entering the house. What they did was plain wrong, unconstitutional and each and every one of those officers should be put on trial. Not to mention that one of the dogs was CAGED, UNABLE TO ATTACK THE OFFICERS. They then went on to shoot that very dog seven times. Also, after the fact, he was not a drug dealer. In fact, he seemed to be a parent who occasionally used marijuana. It's almost as if this video should be used as an example of a police-state.

Question is, how were they to know wthether this person was a drug dealer or not? They acted on an anonymous tip... not really proof, but then again the very arguments for keeping pot illegal seem not to be based on accurate facts to begin with. I don't think the blame should be focused on the officers; they had no idea what to expect from the house. The blame should be focused on whoever issued that search warrant in the first place.

You do NOT break into somebody's house on an anonymous tip.. if they did not have concrete proof of whatever they thought this guy was up to, they should never have had access to a search warrant to break into and terrorize this family..