Take 1000 People, How Many Do You Think Go To Heaven

[QUOTE="BreakTheseLinks"][QUOTE="Theokhoth"]Hey, Dun, were you that old guy shouting "homoseshual are goin' to hell! Catholics are goin to Hell! Jews are goin to Hell! Drunkards are goin to Hell!" at my university this morning?Theokhoth

[QUOTE="BreakTheseLinks"][QUOTE="Theokhoth"] Couldn't be you, then; he proceeded to go on an anti-drug rant that encompassed marijuana, tobaccy and alchyhaul.Theokhoth

Please indulge me in said story please.

[QUOTE="l4dak47"][QUOTE="Theokhoth"]Just as we wave goodbye to silenthps, his f***ing clone has to appear. . .Ace6301

Why so mean? What's wrong with my beliefs that make them inferior to yours? Why can't I speak my belief without getting hated on? Why don't these posts ever get removed?

like none, because I don't think god would be happy about people changing their veiws on the bible. It's probably meant to be taken literally

[QUOTE="Ace6301"][QUOTE="l4dak47"] They bring lulz and drama. dunl12496

Why so mean? What's wrong with my beliefs that make them inferior to yours? Why can't I speak my belief without getting hated on? Why don't these posts ever get removed?

none get in they all go to hell :twisted:

[QUOTE="Ace6301"]I like the 10000 people eventually answer. I would personally think God wouldn't be a stupid idiot who rejects good people and accepts terrible people who just repent on their death bed. dunl12496

But that is how it works. It doesn't matter what good you did worldly. You could be a rapist, and if you repent God would take you. A worldly hero who curses wouldn't.

I can't tell whether you're actually a Christian or whether you're attempting to troll Christians.

How can someone go to a place that does not exist?

none, heaven doesn't exist and I'm not an atheist.

[QUOTE="dunl12496"]

[QUOTE="Ace6301"]I like the 10000 people eventually answer. I would personally think God wouldn't be a stupid idiot who rejects good people and accepts terrible people who just repent on their death bed. GabuEx

But that is how it works. It doesn't matter what good you did worldly. You could be a rapist, and if you repent God would take you. A worldly hero who curses wouldn't.

I can't tell whether you're actually a Christian or whether you're attempting to troll Christians.

"Sometimes I'm confused by what I think is really obvious. But what I think is really obvious obviously isn't obvious..."

My guess is zero.

If heaven is were all the religious nut jobs go I wouldnt want to go there anyways.AutoPilotOn

My attitude exactly.

0. I don't think anyone can actually follow the bible word for word these days. It isn't the second century anymore.

0. I don't think anyone can actually follow the bible word for word these days. It isn't the second century anymore.

Pixel-Pirate

[QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

0. I don't think anyone can actually follow the bible word for word these days. It isn't the second century anymore.

ferrari2001

....Which would be the bible.

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]1,000, eventually.GabuEx

This guy stole my answer. :(

Accepting Jesus means, NEVER CURSING, never talking crudely, waiting for marriage to have sex, not getting divorced unless the other commits adultery and accepting everyone even if you don't like them. Among other things. Society has evolved doing the minimum into religion. How many do you think now? And also, it doesn't matter what religous group you're in. You just have to follow the bible without false doctrine.

dunl12496

It seems rather impossible to assess.

[QUOTE="GabuEx"]

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]1,000, eventually.-Big_Red-

This guy stole my answer. :(

For the five four or five hundred years of its existence, most Christians accepted universalism, the doctrine that all will be saved one way or another. It's only after the Roman government dug their claws into it, declared universalism a heresy, and issued a Latin translation of the Bible that supported eternal punishment, that the doctrine of eternal damnation took off.

I dont have a religion. But feel like there is a god...

People dont go to hell. Thats all i gotta say. We all go to the same place whether or not the actions we did were considered wrong or right.

Thats my belief.

None if God is how I picture him.....

Accepting Jesus means, NEVER CURSING, never talking crudely, waiting for marriage to have sex, not getting divorced unless the other commits adultery and accepting everyone even if you don't like them. Among other things. Society has evolved doing the minimum into religion. How many do you think now? And also, it doesn't matter what religous group you're in. You just have to follow the bible without false doctrine.

dunl12496

If I have any comprehension of Christian theology at all, it says that people need Jesus because they are not capable of the perfect standard to just stated. If people were capable of such perfection, a savior wouldn't have been needed. As for who goes to Heaven or not, it's not my place to say.

[QUOTE="-Big_Red-"][QUOTE="GabuEx"]

This guy stole my answer. :(

For the five four or five hundred years of its existence, most Christians accepted universalism, the doctrine that all will be saved one way or another. It's only after the Roman government dug their claws into it, declared universalism a heresy, and issued a Latin translation of the Bible that supported eternal punishment, that the doctrine of eternal damnation took off.

[QUOTE="-Big_Red-"][QUOTE="GabuEx"]

This guy stole my answer. :(

GabuEx

For the five four or five hundred years of its existence, most Christians accepted universalism, the doctrine that all will be saved one way or another. It's only after the Roman government dug their claws into it, declared universalism a heresy, and issued a Latin translation of the Bible that supported eternal punishment, that the doctrine of eternal damnation took off.

How is that correct?-Big_Red-

For the five four or five hundred years of its existence, most Christians accepted universalism, the doctrine that all will be saved one way or another. It's only after the Roman government dug their claws into it, declared universalism a heresy, and issued a Latin translation of the Bible that supported eternal punishment, that the doctrine of eternal damnation took off.

None.

There would be no reason for any non christians togo to hell if christianity is real. Whatever it is... I know the bible has a unbelievable count of unconsistincies. But thats off topic..

I mean, would a god actually put all non believers in hell for not beleieving? Seriously, think about that question.

There are millions of people who have not even been witnessed to the bible. Should they go to hell?

And again, why would a god put non beleivers in hell? For not choosing to believe in a book? In which is very questionable?

There would be no reason for any non christians togo to hell if christianity is real. Whatever it is... I know the bible has a unbelievable count of unconsistincies. But thats off topic..

I mean, would a god actually put all non believers in hell for not beleieving? Seriously, think about that question.

There are millions of people who have not even been witnessed to the bible. Should they go to hell?

And again, why would a god put non beleivers in hell? For not choosing to believe in a book? In which is very questionable?

imetamonster

Hey, God has a crazy record of punishing the innocent.

1,000, eventually.Theokhoth

Wait..... So what if someone is actually burning in hell?-Big_Red-

There was no real belief in "hell" as we understand it today. Fire and sulfur held a much different symbolical purpose when certain well-known passages were written than we understand them today. Fire was a symbol of cleansing and sulfur was a symbol of purification. The punishment that those who went to "hell" if one wants to call it that was believed to be purifying and cleansing in nature, not just torture for the pointless sake of torture. Its ultimate purpose was to lead those within it to God.

Linkitize us Gabu.CptJSparrow

It's a bit difficult to provide one single link to cover the whole thing since this involves much of Christian history and a large portion of the Bible, but I suppose that this(though I am not Catholic) might be a good start in the way it covers the early church fathers. Here is an ample list of quotes by many of those individuals.

Zero.

No one deserves to go to heaven, if it even exists.

Zero.

No one deserves to go to heaven, if it even exists.

[QUOTE="htekemerald"]

Zero.

No one deserves to go to heaven, if it even exists.

-Big_Red-

maybe some form of purgatory.

No ones really 'good' enough or 'evil' enough to go to either heaven or hell.

[QUOTE="-Big_Red-"][QUOTE="htekemerald"]

Zero.

No one deserves to go to heaven, if it even exists.

maybe some form of purgatory.

No ones really 'good' enough or 'evil' enough to go to either heaven or hell.

I thought God loved us all. Why would he condemn 999 people to hell (which happens to be the symbol that will appear on those chosen for heaven before the Rapture) if he loved us all? Why does somebody, so powerful and great, require so much undivided attention. It's not just being a good person. That's not good enough.

I've heard, in my own church nonetheless, like 5 different ways to get into heaven. Some say you need to follow all 10 commandments plus a whole lot of crap, others say you just have to accept Jesus into your heart as your savior.

The contradictions between the teachings is so high it was impossible for me to believe. So I'm just not going to worry. I'm going to live my life to be a good person and to be happy, never take advantage of anybody, never harm anybody, and hopefully contribute to society in a positive way. If a life like that isn't worthy of going to Heaven, then let me burn in Hell.

Jesus may have died for our sins, but I also know of thousands of settlers in the 1700s who died so I can live in this nation and have what I have today. I know of thousands of people over the years who have worked their entire lives for the betterment of my own life, all of them them not even knowing who I am as they existed years before I did, many of which suffered and died much as Jesus did. I know of the great sacrifices people have made throughout the history of the human race to better the lives of millions.

I owe as much thanks and acceptance to these fellow humans as I do to Jesus. Haven't they all given the same to achieve the same goals? What makes just one of them special? Surely a true god would understand that.

I don't put my faith in God, I put it in humanity. For as bad as things may seem, there is and always has been good in this world. I can only hope that I can contribute to this and help us grow to be better people.

[QUOTE="AutoPilotOn"]If heaven is were all the religious nut jobs go I wouldnt want to go there anyways.dunl12496

You would rather burn eternally? I know they play JB there too.

I thought God loved us all. Why would he condemn 999 people to hell (which happens to be the symbol that will appear on those chosen for heaven before the Rapture) if he loved us all? Why does somebody, so powerful and great, require so much undivided attention. It's not just being a good person. That's not good enough.

I've heard, in my own church nonetheless, like 5 different ways to get into heaven. Some say you need to follow all 10 commandments plus a whole lot of crap, others say you just have to accept Jesus into your heart as your savior.

The contradictions between the teachings is so high it was impossible for me to believe. So I'm just not going to worry. I'm going to live my life to be a good person and to be happy, never take advantage of anybody, never harm anybody, and hopefully contribute to society in a positive way. If a life like that isn't worthy of going to Heaven, then let me burn in hell.

Jesus may have died for our sins, but I also know of thousands of settlers in the 1700s who died so I can live in this nation and have what I have today. I know of thousands of people over the years who have worked their entire lives for the betterment of my own life, them not even knowing who I am as they existed years before I did, many of which suffered and died much as Jeusus did. I know of the great sacrifices people have made throughout the history of the human race to better the lives of millions.

I owe as much thanks and acceptance to these fellow humans as I do to Jesus. Haven't they all given the same to achieve the same goals? What makes just one of them special? Surely a true god would understand that.

I don't put my faith in God, I put it in humanity. For as bad as things may seem, there is and always has been good in this world. I can only hope that I can contribute to this and help us grow to be better people.

Wasdie

Trust me, you "get it" much more than the hellfire- and brimstone-preaching Christians who tell everyone they're going to hell. :)

None. Heaven is a state of mind, not a real place. Everyone has the potential to abide in that state of mind, but the vast majority have no desire to reach it, or have no ability to realize it.

If it exists, I would guess 40/1000.

and as Silenthps fades away into the history of Gamespot, another claims the throne...

and to answer your question, all of them. If God exists, I'd like to think he would be smart enough to realize eternal damnation is too stiff a punishment for any crime in the history of the universe