teen suicides on the rise....why?

is it that bad?

http://www.myfoxny.com/dpp/good_day_ny/090219_teen_suicide_on_the_rise

Probably because today's mainstream media is very doom and gloom and there sellfish and think their problems are much bigger than they really are.Isbrealiompie

[QUOTE="Isbrealiompie"]Probably because today's mainstream media is very doom and gloom and there sellfish and think their problems are much bigger than they really are.thesmiter

I don't see the problem

Suicide is a perfectly acceptable thing for people to do. If they choose not to go on then that's their choice and no one else's

Obviously more teens think they have problems that need to be resolved this way

It's good either way. Either their problems were so big this was the only way to solve them or their problems weren't that big and they stopped their lives before they met other obstacles they were too weak to overcome.

It's the fashion, it's what the cool kids do.Evil_Saluki

[QUOTE="thesmiter"][QUOTE="Isbrealiompie"]Probably because today's mainstream media is very doom and gloom and there sellfish and think their problems are much bigger than they really are.Isbrealiompie

[QUOTE="thesmiter"][QUOTE="Isbrealiompie"]Probably because today's mainstream media is very doom and gloom and there sellfish and think their problems are much bigger than they really are.Isbrealiompie

[QUOTE="thesmiter"][QUOTE="Isbrealiompie"]Probably because today's mainstream media is very doom and gloom and there sellfish and think their problems are much bigger than they really are.Isbrealiompie

[QUOTE="Isbrealiompie"][QUOTE="thesmiter"] I doubt that being so depressed that they actually want to die is being selfish. I hate that view. Its a disease, a chemical imbalance. They need help, not to be told they are selfish.JC346

Probably because today's mainstream media is very doom and gloom and there sellfish and think their problems are much bigger than they really are.Isbrealiompie

It's because I got this:

I'm building us a better future.

[QUOTE="Isbrealiompie"]Probably because today's mainstream media is very doom and gloom and there sellfish and think their problems are much bigger than they really are.Ninja-Hippo

[QUOTE="thesmiter"] My current depression stems from childhood factors, things that happened years before. Why do you assume that you know what they were going through? ' Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle.'Ninja-Hippo

I see what you were saying. Sad people aren't necessarily suicidal. And yes, there does seem to be a lot of depressing media these days.

It's the fashion, it's what the cool kids do.Evil_Saluki

NEW YORK - A 17-year-old student at the prestigious Dalton Prep School jumped to his death, police said. He went to an 11th-floor dance studio, opened a window and jumped Wednesday around 11 a.m. according to officers. His mother was at the scene. The teen's brother also attends Dalton. The boy had won academic awards and was involved in school activities, including its Web site. School officials had no immediate comment. Dalton has 1,300 students in grades kindergarten through high school. The school is at 108 East 89th St. off Park Avenue. ^^this dude almost landed on a bunch of 4th graders playing in front of the school, from what i heard he was well liked and a great student. it makes no sense...shyskillz

I dont know who to blame. No one cant say he had no friends or w/e but it must of been something "serious" from him to jump out the window. Though I dont feel sorry for him, w/e it could of been resolved and I bet it wasnt something major for him to actually jump out a window. Kids these days...and they are the future. This gen and next gen arent looking good at all and its more than just suicides. Tjeremiah1988

[QUOTE="Tjeremiah1988"]I dont know who to blame. No one cant say he had no friends or w/e but it must of been something "serious" from him to jump out the window. Though I dont feel sorry for him, w/e it could of been resolved and I bet it wasnt something major for him to actually jump out a window. Kids these days...and they are the future. This gen and next gen arent looking good at all and its more than just suicides. Isbrealiompie

[QUOTE="Isbrealiompie"][QUOTE="Tjeremiah1988"]I dont know who to blame. No one cant say he had no friends or w/e but it must of been something "serious" from him to jump out the window. Though I dont feel sorry for him, w/e it could of been resolved and I bet it wasnt something major for him to actually jump out a window. Kids these days...and they are the future. This gen and next gen arent looking good at all and its more than just suicides. Tjeremiah1988

Yes, it's weak people who cannot deal with adversity

These people who kill themselves are doing the rest of us a favor by not being in our way

You think the guy kills himself over his girlfriend of two weeks breaking up with him is really going to be the right guy to place in actual stressful situations?
No he's going to make it worse and probably take someone else to their doom too

I'm sorry, but I find suicide hilarious. I don't understand how someone can throw away the most valuable gift ever (life fro those of you who don't know). bird-man

There's plenty of good reasons

Lost all your money and homeless

You spent 50 years with your wife and she died, might as well just go too. Why just hand around at 70 or 80 waiting

Terminal disease and you're always in pain

Suicide is good, it's a perfectly reasonable thing to do if your situation warrants it

They don't value their lives, and why would they?

In our society, individualism is harshly discouraged; everything revolves around our relationships with other people.

If you have been taught your entire life to wholly depend on others, to work with/for others, and to devote yourself to furthering your relationships with others, how could you ever produce within yourself a love for your life?

Our collectivist world shatters the foundation of individual strength, stripping away a man's ability to retreat within himself, so that when his relationships crumble there is nothing for him to fall back on and he sinks into depression, for he has been convinced that without others, he is nothing.

I have watched so many of my friends and acquaintances have their lives ruled by other people, and I have seen the effect that social rejection can have on a man who has no love for his own life, and no confidence in his own potential.

I've known guys who lived with their parents until they were 24, and then immediately got married, moving from mother to wife with no space in between. They wouldn't know what to do with themselves if they were all alone; they are utterly dependent on the people around them, and when those people leave them hanging, or let them go, or dissapoint them, what do they, who have never learned to love their own lives, have to live for anymore?

In their mind, nothing. Thus, suicide.

In ENVS we learned people are less and less happy with more consumer goods purchased. All these things, ipods, cloths, etc that are supposed to make us happy, do the complete opposite since we have less time to do other things; like spending time with family, friends, other people. In sociology, there is a more likely chance of suicide when some is less interdependent on society, which could be caused by the explanation above. hockey73

Things make me happy, most people don't

Also it would be true what you say if people were getting more things, as we find out people have less things in this economy and they're offing themselves more and more

Seems that people would rather have an extra iPod then an extra friend, when they don't boom goes the dynamite

Well in the extremely egocentric and highly competitive society we live in today, it's not unusual for young people to feel kinda "lost" or like "there's no escape" anymore. Bad, selfish and dominating parents only complicate the problem. I mean I felt this way many times too but I'm a strong person so I'd never consider suicide. Life is short anyway and you only live it once so suicide is for weak people who can't handle the difficulties, stresses and disappointments of life.

Wouldn't suicides rise as atheism does? Seems to make sense.super_mario_128

Yes, it's weak people who cannot deal with adversity

These people who kill themselves are doing the rest of us a favor by not being in our way

You think the guy kills himself over his girlfriend of two weeks breaking up with him is really going to be the right guy to place in actual stressful situations?
No he's going to make it worse and probably take someone else to their doom too

Jaysonguy

[QUOTE="hockey73"]In ENVS we learned people are less and less happy with more consumer goods purchased. All these things, ipods, cloths, etc that are supposed to make us happy, do the complete opposite since we have less time to do other things; like spending time with family, friends, other people. In sociology, there is a more likely chance of suicide when some is less interdependent on society, which could be caused by the explanation above. Jaysonguy

Things make me happy, most people don't

Also it would be true what you say if people were getting more things, as we find out people have less things in this economy and they're offing themselves more and more

Seems that people would rather have an extra iPod then an extra friend, when they don't boom goes the dynamite

It's because I got this:

I'm building us a better future.

the majority of these responses are just "blah blah blah blah I am not informed about this topic so I will just answer to up my count"

This is all these repsonses will get from me...

*facepalm*

[QUOTE="Isbrealiompie"][QUOTE="thesmiter"] I doubt that being so depressed that they actually want to die is being selfish. I hate that view. Its a disease, a chemical imbalance. They need help, not to be told they are selfish.JC346

Even if you were raped by your dad, then he kills your mom, your sister, and himself, I dont think that is a big enough of a problem to kill yourself.

Honestly the only reason to kill yourself is if you are dying and are in extreme pain.

Suicide is, in many cases, extremely selfish. I know people that have killed themselves, and when I saw the looks on their parents' and siblings' faces, I couldnt help but be pissed. They did it over stupid, stupid reasons and if they had simply taken ten seconds to breath, shake their head and clear their thoughts, they would still be here.

And as for chemical imbalances, thats bull. Ya, very few people do indeed have legitimate psychological issues, but the majority are simply weak-willed or compulsive. Weak willed in that they think their problem is so great they just give up. Compulsive in that they act before thinking.