I don't know how all those onlookers weren't running and screaming. :shock:
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There are people of questionable character that are from all types of different backgrounds. It doesn't mean that they condone this behavior. Did you personally condone the things that people like James Holmes did just because they were of caucasian background?And Europe will continue to bring in undesiarables from the Middle East in the name of "diversity" and "multiculturalism". When will they learn?Â
gamerguru100
Obviously not. Could be more planned attacks on the way, info etc. I'd rather have the government meeting about it instead of just sitting around.michaelP4
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There are people of questionable character that are from all types of different backgrounds. It doesn't mean that they condone this behavior. Did you personally condone the things that people like James Holmes did just because they were of caucasian background? Middle Eastern people are Caucasian as well[QUOTE="gamerguru100"]
And Europe will continue to bring in undesiarables from the Middle East in the name of "diversity" and "multiculturalism". When will they learn?Â
Yusuke420
[QUOTE="Yusuke420"]There are people of questionable character that are from all types of different backgrounds. It doesn't mean that they condone this behavior. Did you personally condone the things that people like James Holmes did just because they were of caucasian background? Middle Eastern people are Caucasian as well Can we please not engauge in semantics please, you know what I mean.Â[QUOTE="gamerguru100"]
And Europe will continue to bring in undesiarables from the Middle East in the name of "diversity" and "multiculturalism". When will they learn?Â
MrPraline
Middle Eastern people are Caucasian as well Can we please not engauge in semantics please, you know what I mean. Sure but you are being silly. Of course there's evil from all backgrounds. Of course he doesn't like Holmes. He's bringing up a legitimate observable problem with imported clusterf*cks in Europe, and one ideology that comes up a lot in these cases is Islam.[QUOTE="MrPraline"][QUOTE="Yusuke420"] There are people of questionable character that are from all types of different backgrounds. It doesn't mean that they condone this behavior. Did you personally condone the things that people like James Holmes did just because they were of caucasian background?
Yusuke420
[QUOTE="TruthTellers"]The peaceful religion strikes again.SPBossSorry but killing innocents is definitely not permitted in Islam, maybe you should get your head out of Fox News' ass and think for yourself And yet it happens again and again and again and again, not just in the West, but in various other parts of the world as well. Maybe you need to stop being blinded by the barbaric, repressive ideology mandated by an ancient, outdated religious text (the Quran) and think for yourself.
[QUOTE="SPBoss"][QUOTE="TruthTellers"]The peaceful religion strikes again.Blaze787Sorry but killing innocents is definitely not permitted in Islam, maybe you should get your head out of Fox News' ass and think for yourself And yet it happens again and again and again and again, not just in the West, but in various other parts of the world as well. Maybe you need to stop being blinded by the barbaric, repressive ideology mandated by an ancient, outdated religious text (the Quran) and think for yourself. Preach brother. One of the biggest jokes today is a violent totalitarian political ideology hiding behind "freedom of religion" to spread their insanity by the sharpest and bloodiest of swords
[QUOTE="SPBoss"][QUOTE="TruthTellers"]The peaceful religion strikes again.Blaze787Sorry but killing innocents is definitely not permitted in Islam, maybe you should get your head out of Fox News' ass and think for yourself And yet it happens again and again and again and again, not just in the West, but in various other parts of the world as well. Maybe you need to stop being blinded by the barbaric, repressive ideology mandated by an ancient, outdated religious text (the Quran) and think for yourself. Between 2010 and 2012, there were four domestic terrorist attacks committed in the US. By your rationale, Americans are animals.
[QUOTE="Yusuke420"]There are people of questionable character that are from all types of different backgrounds. It doesn't mean that they condone this behavior. Did you personally condone the things that people like James Holmes did just because they were of caucasian background? Middle Eastern people are Caucasian as well lol[QUOTE="gamerguru100"]
And Europe will continue to bring in undesiarables from the Middle East in the name of "diversity" and "multiculturalism". When will they learn?Â
MrPraline
[QUOTE="MrPraline"][QUOTE="thebest31406"] Ideology? What about it?thebest31406He dislikes Islamic immigration because it brings Islam to the West and many (me included) believe that Islam is a totalitarian political ideology. Has nothing to do with nationality or race or whatever. I could very well agree with that but how do you link terrorism into this ideology? This would suggests that the 1.6 billion Muslims are terrorist by nature. A large chunk of that 1.6 billion, at the very least, harbour sympathies with those who carry out atrocities in the name of this ideology. And it's certainly enough for the West to take the issue of Islamic immigration very seriously.
And by the way, in case anyone's wondering, I'm not white. Â In fact, I look very middle eastern, and come from a region of the world that's plagued by violence and tension in which the common denominator is quite often Islam.
[QUOTE="thebest31406"][QUOTE="MrPraline"] He dislikes Islamic immigration because it brings Islam to the West and many (me included) believe that Islam is a totalitarian political ideology. Has nothing to do with nationality or race or whatever. Blaze787I could very well agree with that but how do you link terrorism into this ideology? This would suggests that the 1.6 billion Muslims are terrorist by nature. A large chunk of that 1.6 billion, at the very least, harbour sympathies with those who carry out atrocities in the name of this ideology. And it's certainly enough for the West to take the issue of Islamic immigration very seriously.This part bothers me. If we're supposed to see this as some whack jobs doing the terrorism...why did I see massive celebrations in the ME on 9-11?
[QUOTE="michaelP4"]BBC News: A man has died and two are injured after police responded to a reported machete attack in south-east London. 1744: Nick Robinson Political editor This is being treated as a serious terrorist attack by Islamist extremists on the streets of Britain. 1741: Nick Robinson Political editor Senior Whitehall sources have told the BBC the Woolwich attackers are thought to have tried to film their attack whilst shouting "Allahu Akbar" - God is Great. The men were said to have been of Muslim appearance. Just heard about this now. Government has called an emergency meeting.Netherscourge
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Had he used a GUN, I'm guessing a dozen people would have been injured and/or killed.
Thank goodness for gun laws over there.
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Yes, I'm using this as an example of why gun laws/restrictions are a good thing - to prevent psychos from doing more damage.
Yeah, but it took 20 minutes for an armed unit to respond because the regular constabulary are not allowed to carry firearrms.
Then... what stopped the bad guys? Answer: Good men with guns.
If anything, I see it as yet another failing of gun laws and restrictions.
[QUOTE="Blaze787"][QUOTE="thebest31406"] I could very well agree with that but how do you link terrorism into this ideology? This would suggests that the 1.6 billion Muslims are terrorist by nature.thebest31406A large chunk of that 1.6 billion, at the very least, harbour sympathies with those who carry out atrocities in the name of this ideology. And it's certainly enough for the West to take the issue of Islamic immigration very seriously. Well I think I'd like to see some proof of that. Well in a Poll by Pew Research only 72% of Muslims (from around the world) said violence against civilians is Rarely or never Justified.Â
[QUOTE="Person0"][QUOTE="thebest31406"] Well I think I'd like to see some proof of that.thebest31406Well in a Poll by Pew Research only 72% of Muslims said violence against civilians is Rarely or never Justified. "only 72%" That's a lot. That's more than a lot; that's the majority. Though I find it weird that Pew never polls the worst of the bunch, Saudi Arabia. I'd like to hear there thoughts on things. Well 30% saying violence against civilians is sometimes or always justified is pretty scary. And that 72% includes people that say is is rarely justified.
[QUOTE="MrPraline"][QUOTE="Yusuke420"] There are people of questionable character that are from all types of different backgrounds. It doesn't mean that they condone this behavior. Did you personally condone the things that people like James Holmes did just because they were of caucasian background?LJS9502_basicMiddle Eastern people are Caucasian as well lol Its true. Its been like that for awhile.
Islam is still a young religion. It's going through it's rambunctious teenage phase of slaughtering infidels. Hopefully, in a couple hundred years, they will grow out of it.
"only 72%" That's a lot. That's more than a lot; that's the majority. Though I find it weird that Pew never polls the worst of the bunch, Saudi Arabia. I'd like to hear there thoughts on things. Well 30% saying violence against civilians is sometimes or always justified is pretty scary. And that 72% includes people that say is is rarely justified. When it comes to violence or force against others, you'll never get universal peaceful opinion from any group. 30 percent of Americans believe that there should be an armed rebellion in the US. 58 percent of protestants, Catholics and 33 percent of Mormons feel that military attacks against civilians is justified. What does that tell you? All it tells you is there's a portion of assholes in every group that is despicable but generally, people aren't so bad.[QUOTE="thebest31406"][QUOTE="Person0"] Well in a Poll by Pew Research only 72% of Muslims said violence against civilians is Rarely or never Justified. Person0
[QUOTE="Person0"]Well 30% saying violence against civilians is sometimes or always justified is pretty scary. And that 72% includes people that say is is rarely justified. When it comes to violence or force against others, you'll never get universal peaceful opinion from any group. 30 percent of Americans believe that there should be an armed rebellion in the US. 58 percent of protestants, Catholics and 33 percent of Mormons feel that military attacks against civilians is justified. What does that tell you? All it tells you is there's a portion of assholes in every group that is despicable but generally, people aren't so bad. Link.....[QUOTE="thebest31406"] "only 72%" That's a lot. That's more than a lot; that's the majority. Though I find it weird that Pew never polls the worst of the bunch, Saudi Arabia. I'd like to hear there thoughts on things.thebest31406
When it comes to violence or force against others, you'll never get universal peaceful opinion from any group. 30 percent of Americans believe that there should be an armed rebellion in the US. 58 percent of protestants, Catholics and 33 percent of Mormons feel that military attacks against civilians is justified. What does that tell you? All it tells you is there's a portion of assholes in every group that is despicable but generally, people aren't so bad. Link..... Always. You should know by now. http://www.gallup.com/poll/148763/Muslim-Americans-No-Justification-Violence.aspx[QUOTE="thebest31406"][QUOTE="Person0"] Well 30% saying violence against civilians is sometimes or always justified is pretty scary. And that 72% includes people that say is is rarely justified.
Person0
[QUOTE="Person0"]Link..... Always. You should know by now.Oh well Muslim Americans is quite different from ME Muslims in what they think and do....Muslims in general though will be skewed differently.[QUOTE="thebest31406"] When it comes to violence or force against others, you'll never get universal peaceful opinion from any group. 30 percent of Americans believe that there should be an armed rebellion in the US. 58 percent of protestants, Catholics and 33 percent of Mormons feel that military attacks against civilians is justified. What does that tell you? All it tells you is there's a portion of assholes in every group that is despicable but generally, people aren't so bad.thebest31406
Always. You should know by now.Oh well Muslim Americans is quite different from ME Muslims in what they think and do....Muslims in general though will be skewed differently.[QUOTE="thebest31406"][QUOTE="Person0"] Link.....LJS9502_basic
The ones that are here seem to be aight, though, if that survey is any indication.
Always. You should know by now.Oh well Muslim Americans is quite different from ME Muslims in what they think and do....Muslims in general though will be skewed differently. Probably so, but as Person illustrated, the majority of the worlds Muslims don't justify killing of civilians.[QUOTE="thebest31406"][QUOTE="Person0"] Link.....LJS9502_basic
[QUOTE="NEWMAHAY"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] lolLJS9502_basicIts true. Its been like that for awhile. Er....what? The term "Caucasian" applies to all or some of the populations from Europe, North Africa, the Horn of Africa, Western Asia/Middle East, Asia Minor, Central Asia, and South Asia.
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The word is commonly used in the United States to describe white people of European descent. The term "European American" would be a more accurate description, but "Caucasian" took the lead before it, I guess.Â
[QUOTE="michaelP4"]Obviously not. Could be more planned attacks on the way, info etc. I'd rather have the government meeting about it instead of just sitting around.ferrari2001governments don't do anything though. They meet, they talk, they come up with some law that does nothing, and then go home patting themselves on the back. I fail to see what the government could possibly do that the police and nation security forces can't do better. The sad truth.
Er....what? The term "Caucasian" applies to all or some of the populations from Europe, North Africa, the Horn of Africa, Western Asia/Middle East, Asia Minor, Central Asia, and South Asia.[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="NEWMAHAY"] Its true. Its been like that for awhile. gamerguru100
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The word is commonly used in the United States to describe white people of European descent. The term "European American" would be a more accurate description, but "Caucasian" took the lead before it, I guess.Â
I know what a Caucasian is....I asked what the dude meant by his post which could be interpreted several ways. Also the word is used correctly in the US and the ME would be mostly Causasian.[QUOTE="ferrari2001"]And why does the government need earn money an emergency meeting. Can't the police just arrest the guy and be done with it. What are they going to do, legislate Machete's?
Authorities have a different approach for crimes that are considered hate crimes. For example, a woman in london was jailed for 41 weeks for saying racist things on a bus. Had he used a GUN, I'm guessing a dozen people would have been injured and/or killed. Thank goodness for gun laws over there. Yes, I'm using this as an example of why gun laws/restrictions are a good thing - to prevent psychos from doing more damage.[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Oh well Muslim Americans is quite different from ME Muslims in what they think and do....Muslims in general though will be skewed differently. Probably so, but as Person illustrated, the majority of the worlds Muslims don't justify killing of civilians. Well that was a question asking if Suicide bombing in defense of islam against civilians was justified. the polls you put up about other religions isn't the same.[QUOTE="thebest31406"] Always. You should know by now.thebest31406
[QUOTE="PWSteal_Ldpinch"]Authorities have a different approach for crimes that are considered hate crimes. For example, a woman in london was jailed for 41 weeks for saying racist things on a bus. Had he used a GUN, I'm guessing a dozen people would have been injured and/or killed. Thank goodness for gun laws over there. Yes, I'm using this as an example of why gun laws/restrictions are a good thing - to prevent psychos from doing more damage.[QUOTE="ferrari2001"]And why does the government need earn money an emergency meeting. Can't the police just arrest the guy and be done with it. What are they going to do, legislate Machete's? remas100
According to the report, one of the men did have a gun. But they chose to use their bladed weapons instead. It also took 20 minutes for an armed unit to respond because the regular constabulary, who arrived on-scene earlier, are not allowed to carry firearrms.
Then... who stopped the bad guys? Answer: Good men with guns.
If anything, I see it as yet another failing of gun laws and restrictions.
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