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#52 Harisemo
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[QUOTE="Harisemo"][QUOTE="Hexagon_777"]Scumbag perverts. Killing for ***** isn't right.Hexagon_777

why do you assume every muslim who blows himself up is doing it for virgins?

It surely is partly the reason. Why? Is there an even greater cause?

Maybe they're taking revenge and the only effective way for them might be a suicide attack and though ofcourse they believe they will have a better life in heaven but that does not mean their sole reason for suicide was 72 virgins. what i get from your comments is that if a muslim fights or blows himself up they will be doing only to get the virgins.

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#53 l4dak47
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[QUOTE="l4dak47"][QUOTE="Harisemo"]

maybe planting multiple bombs aint that easy?

InEMplease

I kinda doubt that. They managed to let a man with several bombs strapped to his chest get by. And besides, why blow yourself up? Just put a single a bomb in there and detonate it from a safe distance. It still gets the basic goal achieved while not killing yourself.

Then they might have to face the consequences of their actions insteading of getting a free pass to eternal bliss. Like I said, they are cowards.

Ah, yes. I did not think of that.
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#54 Harisemo
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I kinda doubt that. They managed to let a man with several bombs strapped to his chest get by. And besides, why blow yourself up? Just put a single a bomb in there and detonate it from a safe distance. It still gets the basic goal achieved while not killing yourself. l4dak47

Maybe the guy just ran inside and before the security could react he blew himself?

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I can't believe how some Americans still live in the Cold War era and joke over the death of Russians. Shame on you.
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[QUOTE="Harisemo"][QUOTE="Hexagon_777"]Scumbag perverts. Killing for ***** isn't right.Hexagon_777

why do you assume every muslim who blows himself up is doing it for virgins?

It surely is partly the reason. Why? Is there an even greater cause?

There is no cause its false statements made by extremist.

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[QUOTE="Harisemo"]

[QUOTE="Hexagon_777"]

why do you assume every muslim who blows himself up is doing it for virgins?Harisemo
It surely is partly the reason. Why? Is there an even greater cause?

Maybe they're taking revenge and the only effective way for them might be a suicide attack and though ofcourse they believe they will have a better life in heaven but that does not mean their sole reason for suicide was 72 virgins. what i get from your comments is that if a muslim fights or blows himself up they will be doing only to get the virgins.

killing people who had nothing to do with something you view as unjust can not be revenge, it simply cant.
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[QUOTE="l4dak47"] I kinda doubt that. They managed to let a man with several bombs strapped to his chest get by. And besides, why blow yourself up? Just put a single a bomb in there and detonate it from a safe distance. It still gets the basic goal achieved while not killing yourself. Harisemo

Maybe the guy just ran inside and before the security could react he blew himself?

Now we're assuming. Even then, I doubt they have guards at the very entrance of the airport to check you down before you get inside the airport. Besides, if you're not going on a plane, then, all you have to do is place a bomb in a suitcase and drop it off and walk out. Suicide bombers are idiots. Don't deny it.
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#59 surrealnumber5
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I can't believe how some Americans still live in the Cold War era and joke over the death of Russians. Shame on you.Crimsader
i have yet to see that in this thread, making assumptions about americans FTL
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#60 surrealnumber5
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[QUOTE="l4dak47"][QUOTE="Harisemo"]

I kinda doubt that. They managed to let a man with several bombs strapped to his chest get by. And besides, why blow yourself up? Just put a single a bomb in there and detonate it from a safe distance. It still gets the basic goal achieved while not killing yourself. l4dak47

Maybe the guy just ran inside and before the security could react he blew himself?

Now we're assuming. Even then, I doubt they have guards at the very entrance of the airport to check you down before you get inside the airport. Besides, if you're not going on a plane, then, all you have to do is place a bomb in a suitcase and drop it off and walk out. Suicide bombers are idiots. Don't deny it.

he has been defending the actions of crazy people through the whole thread
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#61 Harisemo
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[QUOTE="Harisemo"]

[QUOTE="Hexagon_777"]It surely is partly the reason. Why? Is there an even greater cause?

surrealnumber5

Maybe they're taking revenge and the only effective way for them might be a suicide attack and though ofcourse they believe they will have a better life in heaven but that does not mean their sole reason for suicide was 72 virgins. what i get from your comments is that if a muslim fights or blows himself up they will be doing only to get the virgins.

killing people who had nothing to do with something you view as unjust can not be revenge, it simply cant.

it was for the suicide bomber

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Terrible. Sick world we are living in.

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[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"][QUOTE="Harisemo"]

Maybe they're taking revenge and the only effective way for them might be a suicide attack and though ofcourse they believe they will have a better life in heaven but that does not mean their sole reason for suicide was 72 virgins. what i get from your comments is that if a muslim fights or blows himself up they will be doing only to get the virgins.

Harisemo

killing people who had nothing to do with something you view as unjust can not be revenge, it simply cant.

it was for the suicide bomber

Can't even target people who he could actually claim revenge on and you're saying this guy had courage? Not only was he a coward who targeted innocents but he's also an inefficient idiot.
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#64 Harisemo
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[QUOTE="Harisemo"]

[QUOTE="l4dak47"] I kinda doubt that. They managed to let a man with several bombs strapped to his chest get by. And besides, why blow yourself up? Just put a single a bomb in there and detonate it from a safe distance. It still gets the basic goal achieved while not killing yourself. l4dak47

Maybe the guy just ran inside and before the security could react he blew himself?

Now we're assuming. Even then, I doubt they have guards at the very entrance of the airport to check you down before you get inside the airport. Besides, if you're not going on a plane, then, all you have to do is place a bomb in a suitcase and drop it off and walk out. Suicide bombers are idiots. Don't deny it.

A suitcase laying around would have been easy to detect? unless ofcourse there is no surveillance

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Those videos are harrowing. All those bodies on the floor were poor people just going about their business. There's just no justification for indiscriminate slaughter like that.
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#66 surrealnumber5
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[QUOTE="Harisemo"]

[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"][QUOTE="Harisemo"]

Maybe they're taking revenge and the only effective way for them might be a suicide attack and though ofcourse they believe they will have a better life in heaven but that does not mean their sole reason for suicide was 72 virgins. what i get from your comments is that if a muslim fights or blows himself up they will be doing only to get the virgins.

killing people who had nothing to do with something you view as unjust can not be revenge, it simply cant.

it was for the suicide bomber

sorry but that is not how the word revenge is defined. for there to be revenge there must be a retort against an originating assulter, killing people who had nothing to do with anything is just murder, not revenge
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#67 l4dak47
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[QUOTE="l4dak47"][QUOTE="Harisemo"]

Maybe the guy just ran inside and before the security could react he blew himself?

Harisemo

Now we're assuming. Even then, I doubt they have guards at the very entrance of the airport to check you down before you get inside the airport. Besides, if you're not going on a plane, then, all you have to do is place a bomb in a suitcase and drop it off and walk out. Suicide bombers are idiots. Don't deny it.

A suitcase laying around would have been easy to detect? unless ofcourse there is no surveillance

No it would have not. There's tons of people walking around and even then you can hide it under the seats, or get a green one and put it inisde of a plant. Seriously, stop arguing. They're idiots.
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#68 ExoticAnimal
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Those videos are harrowing. All those bodies on the floor were poor people just going about their business. There's just no justification for indiscriminate slaughter like that. Ninja-Hippo

The 2nd video where the person appears to have lost their legs is really disturbing. I cannot believe that people continue to do this to one another.

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Those videos are harrowing. All those bodies on the floor were poor people just going about their business. There's just no justification for indiscriminate slaughter like that. Ninja-Hippo

Somebody thinks there is.

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#70 Harisemo
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[QUOTE="Harisemo"]

[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"] killing people who had nothing to do with something you view as unjust can not be revenge, it simply cant.Ace6301

it was for the suicide bomber

Can't even target people who he could actually claim revenge on and you're saying this guy had courage? Not only was he a coward who targeted innocents but he's also an inefficient idiot.

surely he must have been pissed about innocent people killed in chechnya, quite possibly his own family as well so he decided to take the life of russian innocent people?

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#71 Harisemo
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[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"]Those videos are harrowing. All those bodies on the floor were poor people just going about their business. There's just no justification for indiscriminate slaughter like that. Wasdie

Somebody thinks there is.

if that was aimed at me then please show me where i said the bomber did the right thing?

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#72 Wasdie  Moderator
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[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"]Those videos are harrowing. All those bodies on the floor were poor people just going about their business. There's just no justification for indiscriminate slaughter like that. Harisemo

Somebody thinks there is.

if that was aimed at me then please show me where i said the bomber did the right thing?

No just saying that there are people out there who do otherwise this wouldn't happen.

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#73 Ace6301
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[QUOTE="Ace6301"][QUOTE="Harisemo"]

it was for the suicide bomber

Harisemo

Can't even target people who he could actually claim revenge on and you're saying this guy had courage? Not only was he a coward who targeted innocents but he's also an inefficient idiot.

surely he must have been pissed about innocent people killed in chechnya, quite possibly his own family as well so he decided to take the life of russian innocent people?

If you're willing to risk your life then why the hell not target someone important who you actually have a beef with. This is just killing innocent people, they didn't do anything and chances are the Russians will just get more pissed off by crap like this and kill more people. It's idiotic and cowardly.
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No Russian?Engrish_Major

The very first thing I thought.

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#75 Harisemo
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[QUOTE="Harisemo"]

[QUOTE="l4dak47"] Now we're assuming. Even then, I doubt they have guards at the very entrance of the airport to check you down before you get inside the airport. Besides, if you're not going on a plane, then, all you have to do is place a bomb in a suitcase and drop it off and walk out. Suicide bombers are idiots. Don't deny it. l4dak47

A suitcase laying around would have been easy to detect? unless ofcourse there is no surveillance

No it would have not. There's tons of people walking around and even then you can hide it under the seats, or get a green one and put it inisde of a plant. Seriously, stop arguing. They're idiots.

i would say the suicide bomber was clever for not taking a risk with suitcase bomb

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[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"][QUOTE="Harisemo"]

Maybe they're taking revenge and the only effective way for them might be a suicide attack and though ofcourse they believe they will have a better life in heaven but that does not mean their sole reason for suicide was 72 virgins. what i get from your comments is that if a muslim fights or blows himself up they will be doing only to get the virgins.

Harisemo

killing people who had nothing to do with something you view as unjust can not be revenge, it simply cant.

it was for the suicide bomber

Your muslim.So am I..Tell me where in Quran does it say it's okay to kill yourself and others..Here's a quote from the Quran"O you who have believed, do not consume one another's wealth unjustly but only business by mutual consent. And do not kill yourselves. Indeed, Allah is to you ever Merciful".

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#77 Ace6301
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[QUOTE="Harisemo"]

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

Somebody thinks there is.

Wasdie

if that was aimed at me then please show me where i said the bomber did the right thing?

No just saying that there are people out there who do otherwise this wouldn't happen.

The only bright side of this is that there's one less in the world now.
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#78 surrealnumber5
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[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"]Those videos are harrowing. All those bodies on the floor were poor people just going about their business. There's just no justification for indiscriminate slaughter like that. Wasdie

Somebody thinks there is.

time for some fuzzy stats, if there have been 20 posters in this thread and one thinks acts like these are justifable then 5% of the population is ok with these kinds of actions. given the population of 6 billion then there must be 300,000,000 people in this world that support these actions.
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#79 xWoW_Rougex
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Scary, there was a pretty half**** and failed terrorist attack in Sweden a week before christmas. Fortunately one of the bombs detonated in a pretty desolate place so the terrorist only managed to kill himself. Crazy, so this makes it even more scarier. I didn't read if this was some religious group or something else, my glasses just broke so I feel almost blind. Also, fun "trivia": The biggest newssite in Sweden currently priorities some Swedish movie award ceremony instead of this at their top news, not cool.

Also, will not watch these sick videos, I want to be able to sleep tonight. I'm pretty sensitive.

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I never understood the rationale of a suicide bomber. If they're killing for revenge they why not plan out an attack on the unit that did them harm?

Attacking the civilians of a country far bigger than you is just going to infuriate them more and have that bigger country come down on you like a hammer.

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[QUOTE="l4dak47"][QUOTE="Harisemo"]

A suitcase laying around would have been easy to detect? unless ofcourse there is no surveillance

Harisemo

No it would have not. There's tons of people walking around and even then you can hide it under the seats, or get a green one and put it inisde of a plant. Seriously, stop arguing. They're idiots.

i would say the suicide bomber was clever for not taking a risk with suitcase bomb

Just stop, you are already enough of an embarrassment to the human race, don't make it worse.

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Wow, that looks like it did quite some damage.
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[QUOTE="Promised_Trini"]

[QUOTE="Harisemo"]

killing people who had nothing to do with something you view as unjust can not be revenge, it simply cant.surrealnumber5

it was for the suicide bomber

Your muslim.So am I..Tell me where in Quran does it say it's okay to kill yourself and others..Here's a quote from the Quran"O you who have believed, do not consume one another's wealth unjustly but only business by mutual consent. And do not kill yourselves. Indeed, Allah is to you ever Merciful".

i never understood how a religion based around the teachings of a merchant could become so anti-capitalism, then again i dont know much about the faith, any insight?
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I hope the Russians come down hard on those responsible.

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[QUOTE="Harisemo"]

[QUOTE="Ace6301"] Can't even target people who he could actually claim revenge on and you're saying this guy had courage? Not only was he a coward who targeted innocents but he's also an inefficient idiot.Ace6301

surely he must have been pissed about innocent people killed in chechnya, quite possibly his own family as well so he decided to take the life of russian innocent people?

If you're willing to risk your life then why the hell not target someone important who you actually have a beef with. This is just killing innocent people, they didn't do anything and chances are the Russians will just get more pissed off by crap like this and kill more people. It's idiotic and cowardly.

So you're saying that killing someone that you have a beef with is all right?

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#86 Harisemo
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Your muslim.So am I..Tell me where in Quran does it say it's okay to kill yourself and others..Here's a quote from the Quran"O you who have believed, do not consume one another's wealth unjustly but only business by mutual consent. And do not kill yourselves. Indeed, Allah is to you ever Merciful".

Promised_Trini

ffs man I DO NOT THINK THE SUICIDE BOMBER DID THE RIGHT THING AND HIS DESTINATION IS HELL.

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[QUOTE="Engrish_Major"]No Russian?Johnny_Rock

The very first thing I thought.

I have to admit same here, weird coincident

but seriously this is just horrible. terrorism and religious fundamentalism are 2 of the worst things on earth

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#88 redstorm72
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[QUOTE="Promised_Trini"]

Your muslim.So am I..Tell me where in Quran does it say it's okay to kill yourself and others..Here's a quote from the Quran"O you who have believed, do not consume one another's wealth unjustly but only business by mutual consent. And do not kill yourselves. Indeed, Allah is to you ever Merciful".

Harisemo

ffs man I DO NOT THINK THE SUICIDE BOMBER DID THE RIGHT THING AND HIS DESTINATION IS HELL.

That's weird, because you keep trying to justify the terrorists actions and calling them clever.

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[QUOTE="Ace6301"][QUOTE="Harisemo"]

surely he must have been pissed about innocent people killed in chechnya, quite possibly his own family as well so he decided to take the life of russian innocent people?

ExoticAnimal

If you're willing to risk your life then why the hell not target someone important who you actually have a beef with. This is just killing innocent people, they didn't do anything and chances are the Russians will just get more pissed off by crap like this and kill more people. It's idiotic and cowardly.

So you're saying that killing someone that you have a beef with is all right?

Lol no. I'm saying it's more intelligent than killing a bunch of innocents as it may actually have some sort of positive effect on the party which is doing the attacking. I'm against killing people, in pretty much every situation but I can still think objectively.
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#91 Harisemo
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That's weird, because you keep trying to justify the terrorists actions and calling them clever.

redstorm72

Yet you feel his actions displayed courage and cleverness.

InEMplease

*sigh*, im out. have a nice day

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I can't help but feel a sense of irony with this tragic event by a group of sick-minded individuals. Russia, a supporter of funding Islamic-backed groups, recently pledged their support to a Palestinian state. And a few days later this happens. Yes, their support for the two-state solution may not be directly linked to the situation on Caucasus. However, Russia must re-evaluate who and who not is their enemy. Russia needs to learn that supplying terrorist groups and supporting the creation of a disaster state is not in her interests, and neither is pissing Israel off. In my view, the day Western countries start to get pushed over the edge by suicide bombers and terrorist groups will not be a pretty one.

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#94 redstorm72
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I can't help but feel a sense of irony with this tragic event by a group of sick-minded individuals. Russia, a supporter of funding Islamic-backed groups, recently pledged their support to a Palestinian state. And a few days later this happens. Yes, their support for the two-state solution may not be directly linked to the situation on Caucasus. However, Russia must re-evaluate who and who not is their enemy. Russia needs to learn that supplying terrorist groups and supporting the creation of a disaster state is not in her interests, and neither is pissing Israel off. In my view, the day Western countries start to get pushed over the edge by suicide bombers and terrorist groups will not be a pretty one.

CannedWorms

This has nothing to do with Israel or Palestine. This is almost certainly a Chechen extremest Islamic group.

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#95 CannedWorms
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[QUOTE="CannedWorms"]

I can't help but feel a sense of irony with this tragic event by a group of sick-minded individuals. Russia, a supporter of funding Islamic-backed groups, recently pledged their support to a Palestinian state. And a few days later this happens. Yes, their support for the two-state solution may not be directly linked to the situation on Caucasus. However, Russia must re-evaluate who and who not is their enemy. Russia needs to learn that supplying terrorist groups and supporting the creation of a disaster state is not in her interests, and neither is pissing Israel off. In my view, the day Western countries start to get pushed over the edge by suicide bombers and terrorist groups will not be a pretty one.

redstorm72

This has nothing to do with Israel or Palestine. This is almost certainly a Chechen extremest Islamic group.

Read again.

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#96 redstorm72
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I can't help but feel a sense of irony with this tragic event by a group of sick-minded individuals. Russia, a supporter of funding Islamic-backed groups, recently pledged their support to a Palestinian state. And a few days later this happens. Yes, their support for the two-state solution may not be directly linked to the situation on Caucasus. However, Russia must re-evaluate who and who not is their enemy. Russia needs to learn that supplying terrorist groups and supporting the creation of a disaster state is not in her interests, and neither is pissing Israel off. In my view, the day Western countries start to get pushed over the edge by suicide bombers and terrorist groups will not be a pretty one.

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This has nothing to do with Israel or Palestine. This is almost certainly a Chechen extremest Islamic group.

Read again.

I did read, and I'm pissing on this fire before it starts. Don't bring up international matters that have nothing to do with the current event. Also, Russia is not a backer of Islamic fundamentalist groups, at least not since the cold war (and if you will recall, so was the U.S.). They damn well know the danger of extremism, have you even payed attention to the recent terrorist attacks in Russia? The numerous metro, market, apartment, theater, etc, bombings.

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#97 _R34LiTY_
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I wonder if this will be claimed as Moscow's very own 9/11

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Not the first terrorist attack and won't be the last. Link

Of course it's not the first attack nor last, but it's just something I jokingly wonder about the world since there have been some attacks recently here & there where they're considered the "9/11 for that region"

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#98 GD-1369211121
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Sorry to hear that. My thoughts and prayers for any families that were affected by this attack.

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#99 CannedWorms
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I did read, and I'm pissing on this fire before it starts. Don't bring up international matters that have nothing to do with the current event. Also, Russia is not a backer of Islamic fundamentalist groups, at least not since the cold war (and if you will recall, so was the U.S.). They damn well know the danger of extremism, have you even payed attention to the recent terrorist attacks in Russia? The numerous metro, market, apartment, theater, etc, bombings.

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Why not? It's relevant. Russia provided Hezbollah with intelligence during the Lebanon war. Are Russia funding the Taliban? Probably. Russia also provides Iran and North Korea with resources for their nuclear facilities, two countries the West sees as extremists. Yes, I have paid attention to the recent terrorist attacks in Russia, which is why I'm suggesting Russia should improve relations with the US and western Europe in fighting all terrorism throughout the world.