Texas to stop teaching "higher order thinking skills".

What the heck are higher order thinking skills? Seems kinda vague to me.

whipassmt

It's extremely vague.

You see this Texas? THIS is wh we all make fun of you! :P

Corporal punishment doesn't work. It causes more problems than solutions even if it doesn't appear so.

With that said, Texas is just screwing up their system. I shake my head.

leviathan91

Corporal punishment does work when administered sparingly. I'm just not sure that it works in schools.

American public schools are intentionally bad so the proles don't question authority or their crappy station in life. They aren't even hiding it these days. Sad.

bigfoot2045

bingo

[QUOTE="leviathan91"]

Corporal punishment doesn't work. It causes more problems than solutions even if it doesn't appear so.

With that said, Texas is just screwing up their system. I shake my head.

hartsickdiscipl

Corporal punishment does work when administered sparingly. I'm just not sure that it works in schools.

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[QUOTE="dave123321"] MM fails in all that he doesdave123321

Didn't Texas Jokingly(or were they serious?) talk about seceeding a few years ago?

Because it's a pretty prime moment.....

I don't always agree with coporal punishment. But in the days when it was allowed kids didn't act half as bad as kids today do. Some kids need it. Just look at those kids on the bus who were teasing the bus monitor. All 4 of those kids should have been given coporal punishment. But I don't understand why preschool and kindergarten shouldn't be mandatory? It teaches kids a great set of skill before starting 1st grade.helwa1988

Didn't Texas Jokingly(or were they serious?) talk about seceeding a few years ago?

Because it's a pretty prime moment.....

Mozuckint

[QUOTE="Blood-Scribe"][QUOTE="ExtremeGamer93"]

This is why I'm moving after college....It's things like this that the stereotype of Texans are dumb, ignorant people...Anybody know a decent place for a Computer Scientist?

ExtremeGamer93

I did not know that. I like Austin compared to where I'm at now.

Intel and AMD have huge operations here. Blizzard entertainment and Bioware too. Mass Effect 3 was developed at Bioware Austin if I'm not mistaken. I'm not sure if that would encourage or discourage you from moving here. There is a massive Samsung plant about half a mile from my apartment as well. Big tech town.

[QUOTE="Mozuckint"]

Didn't Texas Jokingly(or were they serious?) talk about seceeding a few years ago?

Because it's a pretty prime moment.....

whipassmt

[QUOTE="helwa1988"]I don't always agree with coporal punishment. But in the days when it was allowed kids didn't act half as bad as kids today do. Some kids need it. Just look at those kids on the bus who were teasing the bus monitor. All 4 of those kids should have been given coporal punishment. But I don't understand why preschool and kindergarten shouldn't be mandatory? It teaches kids a great set of skill before starting 1st grade.whipassmt

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[QUOTE="Blood-Scribe"] There's actually a lot of tech companies here in Austin.hartsickdiscipl

I did not know that. I like Austin compared to where I'm at now.

Intel and AMD have huge operations here. Blizzard entertainment and Bioware too. Mass Effect 3 was developed at Bioware Austin if I'm not mistaken. I'm not sure if that would encourage or discourage you from moving here. There is a massive Samsung plant about half a mile from my apartment as well. Big tech town.

Austin just became my city to move to after I'm done with Beaumont.

Republicans are anti intellectual.

.chessmaster1989

Colleges barely teach real critical thinking any more, so it's sad that they'd be eliminating whatever scap of it they still teach. The education system in this country is a joke k-12.

Thank god I love in Michigan where we don't do that nonsense. Our school curriculums are as progressive as they can be. And we have literacy rates at least as high as 22%. Why our high school graduates can even find michigan on a map! Well, if michigan is drawn in highlighter.

dont expect to them to be able to read the word , Michigan, because that's pushing it. Foolish Texas, lol.

Ugh. Disgusting. Vomit. Everywhere.Meinhard1

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[QUOTE="Sword-Demon"] yeah, but that authority shouldn't stem from keeping their child from learning enough to possibly question them. Sword-Demon

F*cking idiots don't understand the purpose of education...

Now did they actually say they dont want to teach "higher order thinking skills" or is not making every student read Paul Krugman considered not teaching higher order thinking skills?

[QUOTE="whipassmt"]

What the heck are higher order thinking skills? Seems kinda vague to me.

THE_DRUGGIE

Are you being serious or is this a clever joke?

Are you actually surprised that he's confused about thinking skills?

[QUOTE="Meinhard1"]Ugh. Disgusting. Vomit. Everywhere.sonicare

It's when you read something so idiotic that it triggers an intensely nauseating visceral reaction.

Now did they actually say they dont want to teach "higher order thinking skills" or is not making every student read Paul Krugman considered not teaching higher order thinking skills?

sonicare

We oppose the teaching of Higher Order Thinking Skills (HOTS) (values clarification), critical thinking skills and similar programs that are simply a relabeling of Outcome-Based Education (OBE) (mastery learning) which focus on behavior modification and have the purpose of challenging the students fixed beliefs and undermining parental authority.2012 Republican Party of Texas Platform

Now did they actually say they dont want to teach "higher order thinking skills" or is not making every student read Paul Krugman considered not teaching higher order thinking skills?

sonicare

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Now did they actually say they dont want to teach "higher order thinking skills" or is not making every student read Paul Krugman considered not teaching higher order thinking skills?

mattbbpl

Page 13, under "Educating our Children": Knowledge-Based Education We oppose the teaching of Higher Order Thinking Skills (HOTS) (values clarification), critical thinking skills and similar programs that are simply a relabeling of Outcome-Based Education (OBE) (mastery learning) which focus on behavior modification and have the purpose of challenging the students fixed beliefs and undermining parental authority.

I got stupider reading that. Wow.

That awkward moment when you think you could do everyone's jobs better than them with no prior experience.

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Now did they actually say they dont want to teach "higher order thinking skills" or is not making every student read Paul Krugman considered not teaching higher order thinking skills?

mattbbpl

Just as well, they're obviously not doing a great job teaching it as it is.

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Now did they actually say they dont want to teach "higher order thinking skills" or is not making every student read Paul Krugman considered not teaching higher order thinking skills?

sonicare

God, why the hell is Texas 100 years behind the rest of the country? It's 2012 FFS; get with the f*cking times.

This is why I'm moving after college....It's things like this that the stereotype of Texans are dumb, ignorant people...Anybody know a decent place for a Computer Scientist?

ExtremeGamer93

...Texas is one...and I'm not kidding :P Cali is good too

[QUOTE="mattbbpl"][QUOTE="sonicare"] What exactly is that, though? There are lots of labels that things can be given that dont necessarily jibe with what they are. They may be referring to a part of the school curriculum that is labeled as that. You can call lots of things "higher order thinking skills". Call me cynical, but I dont know if anyone would really oppose true higher order thinking skills - that just sounds so idiotic. If so, then, yes, they are jackasses. I don't remember ever taking higher order thinking classes. I remember taking physics, calculus, english & literature, etc.sonicare

On a related note, the teaching of evolution has slowed down a noticeable amount around the US, some places like Georgie even went as far to put labels in biology textbooks saying "evolution is only a theory, so question it and think about it first." I really think people are afraid to tell students the truth on various matters. A lack of good critical thinking skills will also make people grow up to be easier to 'indoctrinate,' they will do what they are told at face value better...I could see where some groups might like this.

We're not going to teach critical thinking, so students don't question their beliefs. Derp.

I've come to expect as much from Texas.

arguing that it might challenge "student's fixed beliefs"loco145

Isn't that like, what education is for?

Good job Texas, way to push yourselves away from the stereotypes.

[QUOTE="loco145"]arguing that it might challenge "student's fixed beliefs"Jazz_Fan

Isn't that like, what education is for?

Every time I hear something about the South and its education system and the changes they're making to it, I just become depressed. I truly feel bad for the children down there and what they're going through.

In Iowa we have some problems with our education system, but then I realize that we're trying to fix it and not destroy it.

[QUOTE="bigfoot2045"]

American public schools are intentionally bad so the proles don't question authority or their crappy station in life. They aren't even hiding it these days. Sad.

hartsickdiscipl

bingo

Sometimes I really do wish humanity would just wipe itself out one day -_- Put us all out of our misery.

They want to make people stupid because only stupid people would vote for a party that wants to make people stupid.

As if the American school system wasn't already crappy enough. If I'm understanding this correctly, they don't want kids to have the critical thinking ability to think for themselves, solve their own problems correctly, and be able to process and filter out all the **** that gets fed to them each day through, as they are frequently called by these same politicians, the accursed media that's supposedly making our kids violent and stupid?