Thanks to Trump, It's Safe to Say "Merry Christmas" Again

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/12/thanks-to-trump-its-safe-to-say-merry-christmas-again.html

And yet I feel ashamed that some of my relatives have joined the Trump supporters and conspiracy theorists to spread lies and slander against Obama and Hillary. What is the world coming to? Take a look at the final quote:

And so it is apparently “safe” for Christians to be rude to their Jewish, Muslim, Buddhist, Hindu, or nonreligious friends and colleagues by regaling them with sectarian holiday greetings. The war on common courtesy has apparently been subordinated to the war on “political correctness.”

It was dangerous to say Merry Christmas?

Yet his supporters were mad about red starbucks cups

Apparently.

"The war on Christmas" is a great example of persecutory delusions common in right wing Christians. It truly is pathetic, a bunch of precious little snowflakes scared that not everyone thinks the same way they do.

Merry Christmas!

Lol, the persecution delusion amongst certain crowds is real. I just remembered its War on Christmas month on Fox News. I hope these guys can join the other trump supporters in a little safe space, there those crazy leftists and secularists wont oppress them,

"Conservative students who voted for Mr. Trump say that even though their candidate won, their views are not respected. Some are adopting the language of the left, saying they need a “safe space” to express their opinions — a twist resented by left-leaning protesters."

Back on topic, I hope these "War on Christmas" guys just grow the **** up already. Christmas existed long before Christianity, hell Winter Solstice was back in the neolithic era. With most Christmas tradition coming from Yule. In fact, we Scandinavians still call Christmas 'Jul'.

Doesn't matter how you spend your holiday, you can tell me happy holidays, merry Christmas, Happy Hanukkah, Happy St. Stephan's Day.

"War on Christmas"...white Christian privilege incarnate.

I love how they see it as excluding Christians when all we are doing is including others by saying "Happy Holidays". Way to get your panties in a bunch. Maybe these right wingers need a mug of cocoa and safe space to cry at?

Christians have such a weird persecution complex. I was brought up to think we were a besieged minority that would have to stand up for our rights to be christian in this godless world. However, I found out I live in an 80% christian country, and we are not Jews in the 1st century Roman empire. 2000 years later, still paranoid about Caesar. And they summon this reserve of victimhood and paranoia over defense of a pagan holiday they stole from the Romans. smh.....

Happy Holidays to all! Especially all you Trump supporters.

lol Christian snowflakes can't handle the reality that other holidays exist at the same time as theirs.

I can remember in the not to distant past when in schools red and green M&M cookies were not allowed because it was professing the Christianity. A school teacher can not wear a cross in school because it might affect someone. I guess the powers to be were afraid of a symbol or a law suit from the ACLU. There is one other religious holiday during the Christmas holiday season that has always been accepted by Christians.

Every time you say Merry Christmas, a little Jewish boy somewhere out there begins to cry.

Seems to me they're perfectly accepting of that reality. What made you think otherwise? Because they don't tip-toe around your delicate sensibilities? That type of concern would make you the snowflake, bud.

It's the non-Christian snowflakes who can't handle Christmas. They hear Christmas and they get triggered hard. Guess what? It's the culturally dominant Holiday. Don't like Christmas? Ignore it, you crybabies.

@toast_burner: Its utterly hillarious to hear liberals use the term "Snow Flake". Seriously go to your safe place.

I love that the article is about Jewish, Muslim, Buddhist, and Hindu's being offended by a friendly Holiday greeting...yet it's the Christians that are the snowflakes?

LOL

"You don't want to bend to our authoritarianism?! Snowflake"!

In five years it will be

"You enjoy freedom? Snowflake!".

I grew up with probably 4 or 5 jewish families. None celebrated Hannukah. The general opinion was "So, Christians stole a Roman holiday, so we are going to steal from them to not feel left out?!"

Sounds very sad

Since my christian parents had me circumsised, and the circumsised cannot be christians and are eternally jews according to St Paul, I really dont know how to feel about christmas or hannukah!

Other way around dude.

I like the places that just say "seasons greetings"

WTF does that even mean

LOL, I love you guys. Seriously, every one of you.

Right there with you. No one should care.

I only use Merry X-mas. But ive been trying to use Happy Holidays more.

Uh circumcision game from the Jewish religion.

Yes, but for some reason, in the last 100 years Christian doctors have been adopting this old Jewish custom for some odd reason. Becoming circumsised made you a Jew within the jewish religion. Now, St Paul, the founder of Christianity wrote: "Behold, I Paul say unto you, that if ye be circumcised, Christ shall profit you nothing." and Peter wrote of circumsision being an unbearable yoke. I therefore cannot be a christian, and am somehow, despite being raised christian, a jew.

@d1o2u3g: What them fools butthurt about that shat for?

There is a legitimate issue here its just been taken to 11 by Fox News who firsts suggests a war on Christmas and then a response by people who are just as extreme. It is a bit ironic to call someone else a "snowflake" when this whole thing was created by Fox News and its viewers being so mentally unhinged that they cannot handle a public school, paid for with tax dollars that according to the constitution is not supposed to represent one single religion, saying Happy Holidays instead of Merry Christmas.

Fact of the matter is people really simply dont want these things to be in public schools or our taxes used on them or to be surrounded by it nonstop for a ridiculous amount of time that starts over a month before a single holiday date. IMO the issue would be solved if we saw two things happen.

One, Christians didnt assume everyone else was Christian and respected the idea of individual religious or non-religious convictions and others may not want to have their nonsense shoved down their throats all day everyday for nearly two months. Something they (or, at lest two of the three totalitarian Abrahamic religions) are notorious for not being able to handle.

Two, its treated as the fake religious holiday it is and not as a time of consumerism and advertising.

Personally speaking as much as i try to ignore this ignorant religions knowingly false holiday, i cant, and lets not pretend that this is an option for someone in America. If you live in America chances are you've dealt with religious idiots coming to your door weekly, calling your phone, running up to you on the street, etc. So if we are going to have a time of year where this shit is thrown at us non-stop from every possible angle, then its only fair it be everyone's bullshit and not simply the functionally retarded's religion of choice.

Who are more Christian? The ones that provide basic welfare to the needy and helpless, similar to what Jesus Christ did in the New Testament? Or the ones perpetratingthe false myth of a "War on Christmas?"

There isn't a war on Christmas. It's not dangerous to say "Merry Christmas" and never was. Right wing nutjobs are exaggerating something that never happened because it fuels their outrage and the suckers are falling for it.

You're quoting the KJV Bible that has Shakespearian English, all masculinity, and no quotes on what people say.

http://biblehub.com/galatians/5-2.htm

There's like 25 different Bibles, and the verse is roughly the same, meaning exactly the same.

For me it's the context. Someone saying Merry Christmas is no different than someone wishing me a good time.

@CreasianDevaili: Were i live people get butthurt if you dont say Merry Christmas. But it just makes me say Happy Holidays even more. I got this one lady at Publix who i make sure to go in her line just so i can wish her Happy Holidays. She even gets mad i make her put my stuff in paper.

It seems to be christians who cry when their holiday isn't acknowledged to them. I've never heard someone say they were offended from being told Merry Christmas, it's always, "They won't say merry Christmas to me! WAAAAAA!!!!," and "Oh noes they said happy holidays and that makes me mad!"

That's a pussy mentality.

I've never ever heard a single person in my entire life either get upset about being told or [i]not[/i] being told Merry Christmas. I live near some downright hardcore Christians and it just never happens.

Are you sure the pussy mentality just isn't concentrated where you live?

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@JimB: what was the other holiday

Perhaps, but the premise of the "war on Christmas" for many years now has been people getting upset that they are hearing happy holidays or some other holiday rather than merry Christmas and how upsetting that is to them. Regardless of whether that's true or not the people who are getting upset at very little in that scenario are the snowflakes, sjw's, pussies, etc. The people who are saying some other greeting and moving on with their day seem to be the one's who are less worried about it might be perceived seem to be the individuals who are actually less worried about having to say the exact right thing at all times.

Like I said, it's the context. If I wish someone a nice day, regardless of the way i do it, I do it and I don't feel bad for it. Personally I don't wish random people to have a good day because those random people might be bastards, so I don't have the issue to or from in regards to training the way I speak to soothe others.

It isn't war, nor was it ever, though. It has to matter to be war, and this never has or will.

Same here. No one gets offended whether someone says Merry Christmas or Happy Holidays. I got relatives in the LA Metro area. They never got offended when I used either term.

Of course, we use Happy Holidays as a general term, referring to the days that have Christmas Day, New Year's Day, and the days in between.

"Happy Holidays" is also a friendly greeting, so why get offended by it? How do you not see how hypocritical that is?

Nobody is forcing you to not say merry Christmas. Just some people and organisations choose not to. That's why I called you delusional, now you're even comparing it to authoritarianism. Do you have no self awareness at all? Has living your whole live in a safespace really made you this out of touch with reality?

@toast_burner: "Snowflake" is a term used by conservatives to describe liberals and their "sensitive feelings" or their alleged unique traits and pride in such traits, i.e. "I am a precious and unique snowflake".

I don't think I've heard a liberal use that term unless done sarcastically or in self-deprecation, or to make fun of other liberals.

So how does it not fit here? Their sensitive feelings are being hurt due to their alleged unique traits of pride in their religion not being "respected" by everyone else.

The funny thing is typically when the right say it they're just trowing words around "You're a liberal therefore you're also an SJW!" Yet very often those words actually apply better to people on the right. I've seen more rightwing SJW's than left wing ones. I am partially saying it sarcastically because I know how much it triggers them, but that doesn't change the fact that by the definitions of those words, people like @KHAndAnime fit them perfectly.

HAHAHA really?

That explains a lot. I've always wanted to end up married to a nice Jewess

it does fit I suppose...I just think we should come up with a better term for them :P Snowflake been used, let's come up with something original :D Also when you take an insult hand-made for one type and then use it against another, it makes you sound lame, like you resent the label and now you're using it against your bully and they're just like "PFffft whatever, you're the REAL snowflake"

It's pretty funny, you have the right wingers/conservatives--the people that generally tell everyone to grow a pair and stop being so PC--crying their eyes out over this apparent "War" on "Christmas" (neither of those two things are actually real, btw, but whatever different discussion).

The key difference between the two is that liberals generally want to be inclusive, i.e. "happy holidays" includes Christmas and everything else; while conservatives generally want to exclude, i.e. "Merry Christmas", which excludes everything but one.

It's the same thing with abortion; pro-lifers want to force people into one decision, while pro-choicers include all options. Logically speaking, there's only one obvious, sensible, pragmatic option..."Happy Holidays".

With that said....I really don't give two shits. You say "Merry Christmas" to me you might as well be saying "Happy Gift Giving and Opening Fest"

I don't think we need a better term, people should use actual arguments rather than memes. I made an edit to my post elaborating that while I do think the word fits them, I mainly chose to use it because I know it's a word they like to use and I want to highlight how ironic it is. Hopefully when more people realise this it will become less common. But in the meantime it's funny to see their reactions "I don't have a persecution complex, unlike the feminists my persecution is real! You authoritarian! and it's not a safespace, I just want to force people to conform to my sensibilities... you know for freedom"

Another thing I find funny about this war on Christmas is that it isn't even Christmas yet. So Happy Holidays is far more accurate.

@toast_burner: they also have all the guns, and with their latest mentality, I am reminded of this clip from the movie Shooter

Pussies with guns, people....pussies with guns.

Am I missing something here, or is this completely re******? I mean... there are real problems in the world. Lots of them.

@toast_burner: lmao reading what your saying is hilarious. You know more conservative SJW's? Really? The left started the term "Safe Place" it was most recently used over an imaginary group of racist at Mizzou. A poop Swastika was written on a wall and it made the left fear for their life's, so much they wanted a space away from all white students.

Tell me was it Conservatives that bitched and moaned about the way women are represented in video games? Was it Conservatives who every time something blows up from a (Muslim Terrorists) the first thing they talk about is not hurting the feelings of the Muslim people. Was it Conservatives who created the laughable BLM movement? The one that conveniantly ignores the fact that despite making up 13% of the population they make up 50% of homicide suspects? Was It Conservatives who bitched about their candidate not accepting the results of a Democratic election and then preceded to do everything they could to overturn the results?

Its funny but you say the left is all about choices? Lmao! Please tell me about those choices. Their pro choice argument involves one choice.(Abortion). While a pro life argument involves raising a child or putting it up for adoption.

The Happy Holidays argument as you put it is simply more crying from the left. If I told someone Merry Christmas and they then demanded an apology? I would tell them to go **** themselves. If someone wished me Happy Honika.. knowing I'm not Jewish I would simply tell them thank you and move on.

The left demands you to conform to there values and if you don't you are a Racist, Homophobic, Xenophobic person. Even the discussion of such things causes the left to place a label on you to simply end all discussions.

Oh, man, this thread is definitely going places.