The Anti-Muslim Crowd freak out at black guy

Wow... I'm really starting to think most American's don't even understand why America was even formed anymore. But then again, there are a lot of ignorant people all around the world, from all walks of life... so this isn't a surprise.

Do most of those people in the crowd even know why they're there, or are they just there because its something to hate and is threatening the sanctity of God's America?

foxhound_fox

[QUOTE="Hellfury360"]

Huh as a black guy...I can't believe that...really America?

sonicare

Well to be honest that is the Fearful Fifth we are talking about. They are representative of the 20% of America that is still intolerant, like having a gangrenous limb :(

[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"]

[QUOTE="Ace6301"] You would get modded for giving a list of names of people who said what they said when you were asked for a list? I think I missed that part of the TOU but alright...Ace6301

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]

Wow... I'm really starting to think most American's don't even understand why America was even formed anymore. But then again, there are a lot of ignorant people all around the world, from all walks of life... so this isn't a surprise.

Do most of those people in the crowd even know why they're there, or are they just there because its something to hate and is threatening the sanctity of God's America?

sonicare

[QUOTE="sonicare"][QUOTE="Hellfury360"]

Huh as a black guy...I can't believe that...really America?

Well to be honest that is the Fearful Fifth we are talking about. They are representative of the 20% of America that is still intolerant, like having a gangrenous limb :(

[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"][QUOTE="Ultimas_Blade"]

Who is America bashing again? Names please.

Ultimas_Blade

Excuses. If you are going to say people are America bashing and call people hypocrits, why not name the posters and remove any doubt of your claims? You say you feel bad for those intolerant anti-muslim people who assumed a non-muslim was a muslim and then screamed disrespectful things at him? :| That's incredible.

And if you talking about GabuEx I sure he's fairminded enough to ask why you would say that.

[QUOTE="sonicare"]

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]

Wow... I'm really starting to think most American's don't even understand why America was even formed anymore. But then again, there are a lot of ignorant people all around the world, from all walks of life... so this isn't a surprise.

Do most of those people in the crowd even know why they're there, or are they just there because its something to hate and is threatening the sanctity of God's America?

surrealnumber5

Obviously a couple bothering the innocent man mean the whole of everyone who does not support the Mosque are bigots. Just like how a group of Islamic terrorists that flew airliners into two buildings and the Pentagon mean the whole religion are extremists and bigots. Oh WAIT...cametall

[QUOTE="Ace6301"][QUOTE="surrealnumber5"] it would be seen as its sole intention is to annoy other users. i guess you missed that partsurrealnumber5

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"][QUOTE="Ultimas_Blade"]

Who is America bashing again? Names please.

Ultimas_Blade

Ridiculous Snipes_2 :|The article points out the insidiousness of all of this Anti-muslim fervor. You have not read the article if you really believe that. And don't go quoting partial phrases, if you are going to quote block quote to provide more context to the discussion.

[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"]

[QUOTE="sonicare"] Just like a small group of militant muslims gives there religion a bad name, I don't think it's fair to say that these people represent america. You can't combat generalizations and stereotypes by using them in return.

sonicare

The rest of the quotes are making fun of the Protesters, which is just as bad. Snipes_2

[QUOTE="Ultimas_Blade"]

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"] Well, that article is...For starters. Snipes_2

Ridiculous Snipes_2 :|The article points out the insidiousness of all of this Anti-muslim fervor. You have not read the article if you really believe that. And don't go quoting partial phrases, if you are going to quote block quote to provide more context to the discussion.

Like clockwork...I said BLOCK QUOTE. You always just quote a bunch of sentences out of order and then rattle off some hollow claim in order to create an the appearance of an argument. If you cannot block quote a single continuous paragraph and draw a real logical argument using critical thinkingwhat is the point?

I'll go on record and say that you incapable of doing so because you knowingly made a false claim and lack the evidence to present a comprehensive argument to the discussion.

[QUOTE="sonicare"]

[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"] be prepared to be asked to name names as i was when i brought that up.

surrealnumber5

You keep making these claims of people calling the whole of America accountable for the reprehensible actions of this group. Names please! Who has posted such things in this thread? How could you get modded for that? You are stating your opinion. I just have a feeling that you made the post in haste without realizing that nobody had done such a thing. If what you think is true, why so disingenuous?

[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"][QUOTE="sonicare"] It's just frustrating to see people label this as "america". One bad apple does not spoil the bunch. I'd say there easily exist hundreds of tolerant people for every hate filled person. Nor is hate and racial prejudice some kind of unique american trait. We live in a country where races are mixed. Where people are exposed to other races, cultures, ethnicities, etc. on a daily basis. Unlike many other countries, are population is not relatively homogenous but fairly diverse. With that diversity will come inevitable conflicts, but our country is full of mostly good people IMO. People just like to find reasons to bash the US, but to generalize it in this way is erroneous.

Ultimas_Blade

You keep making these claims of people calling the whole of America accountable for the reprehensible actions of this group. Names please! Who has posted such things in this thread? How could you get modded for that? You are stating your opinion. I just have a feeling that you made the post in haste without realizing that nobody had done such a thing. If what you think is true, why so disingenuous?

Well, just saying, I have seen some people say things such as "I am ashamed of America right now". Hellfury360 is an example, right on the first page.

[QUOTE="Ultimas_Blade"]

[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"] absolutely, and this thread is a perfect example. even if the claims of a few people yelling at some guy because they think he is muslim makes america close minded and hate filled. when those people would be doing so because they think the muslims are close minded and out to kill us. some how it is ok to hate americans for a vast vast vast minority but its not ok for that vast vast vast minority to hate muslims for their minority of radicals. its great that america is the most diverse county and people are fine with acting as if it is homogeneous, but people who follow a single faith are vastly diverse. 789shadow

You keep making these claims of people calling the whole of America accountable for the reprehensible actions of this group. Names please! Who has posted such things in this thread? How could you get modded for that? You are stating your opinion. I just have a feeling that you made the post in haste without realizing that nobody had done such a thing. If what you think is true, why so disingenuous?

Well, just saying, I have seen some people say things such as "I am ashamed of America right now". Hellfury360 is an example, right on the first page.

Would you really take that as America bashing? IMO I don't consider that bashing. Disapproving maybe, but hardly in my opinion bashing. Bashing usually entails name calling, direct teardowns at character, etc and I don't feel like that statement is emblematic of that.

While I do appreciate you looking and pointing to evidence of your claim andcan understand how you came to that opinion I honestly don't think that holds enough weight to be considered bashing.

[QUOTE="Ultimas_Blade"]

[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"] absolutely, and this thread is a perfect example. even if the claims of a few people yelling at some guy because they think he is muslim makes america close minded and hate filled. when those people would be doing so because they think the muslims are close minded and out to kill us. some how it is ok to hate americans for a vast vast vast minority but its not ok for that vast vast vast minority to hate muslims for their minority of radicals. its great that america is the most diverse county and people are fine with acting as if it is homogeneous, but people who follow a single faith are vastly diverse. 789shadow

You keep making these claims of people calling the whole of America accountable for the reprehensible actions of this group. Names please! Who has posted such things in this thread? How could you get modded for that? You are stating your opinion. I just have a feeling that you made the post in haste without realizing that nobody had done such a thing. If what you think is true, why so disingenuous?

Well, just saying, I have seen some people say things such as "I am ashamed of America right now". Hellfury360 is an example, right on the first page.

Criticism/=/bashing.

[QUOTE="789shadow"]

[QUOTE="Ultimas_Blade"]

You keep making these claims of people calling the whole of America accountable for the reprehensible actions of this group. Names please! Who has posted such things in this thread? How could you get modded for that? You are stating your opinion. I just have a feeling that you made the post in haste without realizing that nobody had done such a thing. If what you think is true, why so disingenuous?

Ultimas_Blade

Well, just saying, I have seen some people say things such as "I am ashamed of America right now". Hellfury360 is an example, right on the first page.

Would you really take that as America bashing? IMO I don't consider that bashing. Disapproving maybe, but hardly in my opinion bashing. Bashing usually entails name calling, direct teardowns at character, etc and I don't feel like that statement is emblematic of that.

While I do appreciate you looking and pointing to evidence of your claim andcan understand how you came to that opinion I honestly don't think that holds enough weight to be considered bashing.

Perhaps bashing isn't the correct term, but it really isn't anything better. It was clearly a negative expression that encompassed the entire country, not just the actual morons at this little event.

[QUOTE="Ultimas_Blade"]

[QUOTE="789shadow"]

Well, just saying, I have seen some people say things such as "I am ashamed of America right now". Hellfury360 is an example, right on the first page.

coolbeans90

Would you really take that as America bashing? IMO I don't consider that bashing. Disapproving maybe, but hardly in my opinion bashing. Bashing usually entails name calling, direct teardowns at character, etc and I don't feel like that statement is emblematic of that.

While I do appreciate you looking and pointing to evidence of your claim andcan understand how you came to that opinion I honestly don't think that holds enough weight to be considered bashing.

Perhaps bashing isn't the correct term, but it really isn't anything better. It was clearly a negative expression that encompassed the entire country, not just the actual morons at this little event.

"The mosque is bad" is a majority opinion. So "being ashamed of America" if you disagree seems very valid.

[QUOTE="Ultimas_Blade"]

[QUOTE="789shadow"]

Well, just saying, I have seen some people say things such as "I am ashamed of America right now". Hellfury360 is an example, right on the first page.

coolbeans90

Would you really take that as America bashing? IMO I don't consider that bashing. Disapproving maybe, but hardly in my opinion bashing. Bashing usually entails name calling, direct teardowns at character, etc and I don't feel like that statement is emblematic of that.

While I do appreciate you looking and pointing to evidence of your claim andcan understand how you came to that opinion I honestly don't think that holds enough weight to be considered bashing.

Perhaps bashing isn't the correct term, but it really isn't anything better. It was clearly a negative expression that encompassed the entire country, not just the actual morons at this little event.

[QUOTE="coolbeans90"]

[QUOTE="Ultimas_Blade"]

Would you really take that as America bashing? IMO I don't consider that bashing. Disapproving maybe, but hardly in my opinion bashing. Bashing usually entails name calling, direct teardowns at character, etc and I don't feel like that statement is emblematic of that.

While I do appreciate you looking and pointing to evidence of your claim andcan understand how you came to that opinion I honestly don't think that holds enough weight to be considered bashing.

Pixel-Pirate

Perhaps bashing isn't the correct term, but it really isn't anything better. It was clearly a negative expression that encompassed the entire country, not just the actual morons at this little event.

"The mosque is bad" is a majority opinion. So "being ashamed of America" if you disagree seems very valid.

Majority =/= entirety, nor even close to it. The statement in question would encompass the nation as a whole. So, no. It is not valid.

[QUOTE="coolbeans90"]

[QUOTE="Ultimas_Blade"]

Would you really take that as America bashing? IMO I don't consider that bashing. Disapproving maybe, but hardly in my opinion bashing. Bashing usually entails name calling, direct teardowns at character, etc and I don't feel like that statement is emblematic of that.

While I do appreciate you looking and pointing to evidence of your claim andcan understand how you came to that opinion I honestly don't think that holds enough weight to be considered bashing.

Ace6301

Perhaps bashing isn't the correct term, but it really isn't anything better. It was clearly a negative expression that encompassed the entire country, not just the actual morons at this little event.

Perhaps so. But when one says that they're embarrassed of their country because of Justin Beiber, there is certainly a bit of obvious sarcasm implied. This one has me somewhat more skeptical, as for some reason or another, people tend to take these sorts of threads seriously.

[QUOTE="Ultimas_Blade"]

[QUOTE="789shadow"]

Well, just saying, I have seen some people say things such as "I am ashamed of America right now". Hellfury360 is an example, right on the first page.

coolbeans90

Would you really take that as America bashing? IMO I don't consider that bashing. Disapproving maybe, but hardly in my opinion bashing. Bashing usually entails name calling, direct teardowns at character, etc and I don't feel like that statement is emblematic of that.

While I do appreciate you looking and pointing to evidence of your claim andcan understand how you came to that opinion I honestly don't think that holds enough weight to be considered bashing.

Perhaps bashing isn't the correct term, but it really isn't anything better. It was clearly a negative expression that encompassed the entire country, not just the actual morons at this little event.

Well reasoned point.

I will say that many who have never seen or experienced what racism/xenophobia is (whether it be commited againsted them or around them) feel as if this was something only to be read about in history books, and these blatant shows of bigotry are a shock. So shocking because they felt that America as a whole was past this sort of craven, foolishstuff.

[QUOTE="coolbeans90"]

[QUOTE="Ultimas_Blade"]

Would you really take that as America bashing? IMO I don't consider that bashing. Disapproving maybe, but hardly in my opinion bashing. Bashing usually entails name calling, direct teardowns at character, etc and I don't feel like that statement is emblematic of that.

While I do appreciate you looking and pointing to evidence of your claim andcan understand how you came to that opinion I honestly don't think that holds enough weight to be considered bashing.

Ultimas_Blade

Perhaps bashing isn't the correct term, but it really isn't anything better. It was clearly a negative expression that encompassed the entire country, not just the actual morons at this little event.

Well reasoned point.

I will say that many who have never seen or experienced what racism/xenophobia is (whether it be commited againsted them or around them) feel as if this was something only to be read about in history books, and these blatant shows of bigotry are a shock. So shocking because they felt that America as a whole was past this sort of craven, foolishstuff.

Perhaps so. Regardless, it's not any sort of portrayal of our country that I would like to endorse, as it really isn't accurate. There are some idiots here and there, but the vast overwhelming majority are not.

[QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

[QUOTE="coolbeans90"]

Perhaps bashing isn't the correct term, but it really isn't anything better. It was clearly a negative expression that encompassed the entire country, not just the actual morons at this little event.

"The mosque is bad" is a majority opinion. So "being ashamed of America" if you disagree seems very valid.

Majority =/= entirety, nor even close to it. The statement in question would encompass the nation as a whole. So, no. It is not valid.

Lol at everyone hating on the black dude.

The video is even funnier

"I ain't even muslim!" :lol:

[QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

[QUOTE="coolbeans90"]

Perhaps bashing isn't the correct term, but it really isn't anything better. It was clearly a negative expression that encompassed the entire country, not just the actual morons at this little event.

coolbeans90

"The mosque is bad" is a majority opinion. So "being ashamed of America" if you disagree seems very valid.

Majority =/= entirety, nor even close to it. The statement in question would encompass the nation as a whole. So, no. It is not valid.

70% is not a slight majority. It's quite a significant majority.

And yes. It is very valid because it shows that most of the country is intolerable toward muslims. It's not as bad as 100% but anything over 1% is sad. And anything THAT high is shameful to the country.

that is so sad weezyfb

Pretty much this. I can't believe this issue is still alive. I thought people wold've gotten over it by now.

It's disturbing to see how primitive some people are.

[QUOTE="coolbeans90"]

[QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

"The mosque is bad" is a majority opinion. So "being ashamed of America" if you disagree seems very valid.

D_Battery

Majority =/= entirety, nor even close to it. The statement in question would encompass the nation as a whole. So, no. It is not valid.

Then the choice of words was poor, as numerous people have been irked by that specific phrasing.

[QUOTE="coolbeans90"]

[QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

"The mosque is bad" is a majority opinion. So "being ashamed of America" if you disagree seems very valid.

Pixel-Pirate

Majority =/= entirety, nor even close to it. The statement in question would encompass the nation as a whole. So, no. It is not valid.

70% is not a slight majority. It's quite a significant majority.

And yes. It is very valid because it shows that most of the country is intolerable toward muslims. It's not as bad as 100% but anything over 1% is sad. And anything THAT high is shameful to the country.

It's a clear majority, but regardless, there are about 100 million people in the country whom were grouped in with the rest. It is a sizable number of people, far too many to be overlooked. Even one is shameful to the country, but the amount that exists doesn't make the entire country shameful. To say otherwise is certainly throws a clearly incorrect misrepresentation of the country as a whole. A gross generalization, bordering on the level of absurdity of those whom generalize Muslims as a whole due to the actions of some Islamic fundamentalists.

This is sickening Anti-Muslim stuff that is going on right now in the States.I live in Canada but this is getting out of hand.The guy was just walking by and they started up..I'm Muslim hell if anyone ever did that to me man they would meet my fist right after getting in my face..That guy is not even Muslim shows how much those people know,about the Muslim faith..

*sighs* all this anti muslim crap is pathetic!

Disturbed123

[QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

[QUOTE="coolbeans90"]

Majority =/= entirety, nor even close to it. The statement in question would encompass the nation as a whole. So, no. It is not valid.

70% is not a slight majority. It's quite a significant majority.

And yes. It is very valid because it shows that most of the country is intolerable toward muslims. It's not as bad as 100% but anything over 1% is sad. And anything THAT high is shameful to the country.

It's a clear majority, but regardless, there are about 100 million people in the country whom were grouped in with the rest. It is a sizable number of people, far too many to be overlooked. Even one is shameful to the country, but the amount that exists doesn't make the entire country shameful. To say otherwise is certainly throws a clearly incorrect misrepresentation of the country as a whole. A gross generalization, bordering on the level of absurdity of those whom generalize Muslims as a whole due to the actions of some Islamic fundamentalists.

[QUOTE="bobcheeseball"]I agree. And even if he WAS a Muslim they don't have the right to insult him and label him as a terrorist.Ultimas_Blade

Spot on! Muslims citizens are just as much a citizen as anybody else. Why should they be persecuted like that? It wasn't okay in the past and it's not okay today.

[QUOTE="Ultimas_Blade"]

[QUOTE="bobcheeseball"]I agree. And even if he WAS a Muslim they don't have the right to insult him and label him as a terrorist.rockerbikie

Spot on! Muslims citizens are just as much a citizen as anybody else. Why should they be persecuted like that? It wasn't okay in the past and it's not okay today.

Because discrimination never happen's in any other country in the world... am I right :roll:

That guy doesn't even look Muslim. :|

I'm Muslim hell if anyone ever did that to me man they would meet my fist right after getting in my face..

Promised_Trini

I'm sure your God would approve of that. :?

[QUOTE="Promised_Trini"]

I'm Muslim hell if anyone ever did that to me man they would meet my fist right after getting in my face..

SideSwipes

I'm sure your God would approve of that. :?

Was that even necessary?

[QUOTE="rockerbikie"][QUOTE="Ultimas_Blade"]

Spot on! Muslims citizens are just as much a citizen as anybody else. Why should they be persecuted like that? It wasn't okay in the past and it's not okay today.

Because discrimination never happen's in any other country in the world... am I right :roll: