The Big Bang. (56k)

[QUOTE="-Chimera-"]This thread is just WOW. just WOWPBSnipes

I smell a meme...

[QUOTE="-Chimera-"]This thread is just WOW. just WOWPBSnipes

I smell a meme...

[QUOTE="PBSnipes"]

[QUOTE="-Chimera-"]This thread is just WOW. just WOW-Chimera-

I smell a meme...

[QUOTE="Captain_Swosh69"][QUOTE="Wasdie"]

The newer theories of the Big Bang are excellent and use quantum mechanics to be explained.

Here's the real kicker. Our universe is actually 2d. Think of a point of a balloon. When it expands, all area around that point moves further from the balloon. We see the same thing in our universe. Everything is moving away from us at a certain speed.

Also the Universe itself doesn't have to obay time and space laws because the Universe is not in time and space. It is time and space. We cannot look outside of our own Universe because of it.

Its all really cool stuff.

Wasdie

I'm not trying to explain how it came to be. What happened before is unknown, what made the universe expand is also unknown. With our present knowledge of our own universe we can come to a conclusion backed by years of scientific study that has seen many thousands of different, testable theories to say that our Universe expanded about 13.7 billion years years ago and about 400,000 years after that the Universe had cooled enough for the formation of matter beyond a single proton.

The Universe as we describe it today is actually all of space and time. Space and time expand with the Universe.

You should research a bit of Albert Einstein's work on the Theory of Relativity and Alexander Friendmann's on deriving the expanding universe equation from the Theory of Relativity and general relativity.

[QUOTE="-Chimera-"][QUOTE="PBSnipes"]

I smell a meme...

Funky_Llama

"Touch her shoulder" is boring. I mean, come on, WOW. just WOW.

[QUOTE="-Chimera-"][QUOTE="PBSnipes"]

I smell a meme...

Funky_Llama

[QUOTE="Funky_Llama"][QUOTE="-Chimera-"] Oh god, we've created a horrible meme from this turrible thread.super_mario_128

the universe is not in time and space would explain part of the big bang, but still where was the singularity in the universe, and how it came to be, no one can explain that.Captain_Swosh69

I'm not trying to explain how it came to be. What happened before is unknown, what made the universe expand is also unknown. With our present knowledge of our own universe we can come to a conclusion backed by years of scientific study that has seen many thousands of different, testable theories to say that our Universe expanded about 13.7 billion years years ago and about 400,000 years after that the Universe had cooled enough for the formation of matter beyond a single proton.

The Universe as we describe it today is actually all of space and time. Space and time expand with the Universe.

You should research a bit of Albert Einstein's work on the Theory of Relativity and Alexander Friendmann's on deriving the expanding universe equation from the Theory of Relativity and general relativity.

At least it's better than 'touch her shoulder', I guess.Funky_Llama

[QUOTE="Funky_Llama"][QUOTE="-Chimera-"] Oh god, we've created a horrible meme from this turrible thread.super_mario_128

[QUOTE="xaos"][QUOTE="super_mario_128"] No it isn't. 'Wow, just wow' was annoying way before this thread was made. :/

super_mario_128

dude you dont have to smell a meme cus if you just see a meme and its an apple then if you dont think like this then WOW. just WOW.

Theokhoth

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[QUOTE="xaos"][QUOTE="super_mario_128"] No it isn't. 'Wow, just wow' was annoying way before this thread was made. :/super_mario_128

i know you're not explaining how it came to be. im not taking a hit at you. im just repeating the FACT that nobody can explain that, thus the flaw in the grand scheme.Captain_Swosh69

So basically with that logic, because of that flaw, what we know and can pretty much proove is irrelevant?

It happened. We dont know what, we don't know how, but we do know it happened. This "grand scheme" your talking about is actually false. We just haven't figured out all the pieces of the puzzle, that doesn't mean what we have found so far is false.

If your trying to prove the existence of a God within this whole thing it STILL can be done. We don't know what the catalyst was for the Big Bang. Several theories include a higher power, all of which have just as much plausibility as that of a random occurrence.

Though to say what we have is false becuase we don't know how it started is a invalid argument.

very funny. i cant see any of you explaining how the singularity came to be. the big bang doesnt explain that, so what? where's the logic on how it came to be? nobody can explain that, and for the big bang theory to rely on that BS, totally improbable.

very funny. i cant see any of you explaining how the singularity came to be. the big bang doesnt explain that, so what? where's the logic on how it came to be? nobody can explain that, and for the big bang theory to rely on that BS, totally improbable.

Captain_Swosh69

very funny. i cant see any of you explaining how the singularity came to be. the big bang doesnt explain that, so what? where's the logic on how it came to be? nobody can explain that, and for the big bang theory to rely on that BS, totally improbable.

Captain_Swosh69

Hey gaiz! The THEORY of evolution is wrong because it deoesn't explain the singularity from before the universe was created! It's BS, lol WOW. just WOW

[QUOTE="Captain_Swosh69"]i know you're not explaining how it came to be. im not taking a hit at you. im just repeating the FACT that nobody can explain that, thus the flaw in the grand scheme.Wasdie

So basically with that logic, because of that flaw, what we know and can pretty much proove is irrelevant?

It happened. We dont know what, we don't know how, but we do know it happened. This "grand scheme" your talking about is actually false. We just haven't figured out all the pieces of the puzzle, that doesn't mean what we have found so far is false.

If your trying to prove the existence of a God within this whole thing it STILL can be done. We don't know what the catalyst was for the Big Bang. Several theories include a higher power, all of which have just as much plausibility as that of a random occurrence.

Though to say what we have is false becuase we don't know how it started is a invalid argument.

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

[QUOTE="Captain_Swosh69"]i know you're not explaining how it came to be. im not taking a hit at you. im just repeating the FACT that nobody can explain that, thus the flaw in the grand scheme.Captain_Swosh69

So basically with that logic, because of that flaw, what we know and can pretty much proove is irrelevant?

It happened. We dont know what, we don't know how, but we do know it happened. This "grand scheme" your talking about is actually false. We just haven't figured out all the pieces of the puzzle, that doesn't mean what we have found so far is false.

If your trying to prove the existence of a God within this whole thing it STILL can be done. We don't know what the catalyst was for the Big Bang. Several theories include a higher power, all of which have just as much plausibility as that of a random occurrence.

Though to say what we have is false becuase we don't know how it started is a invalid argument.

The Big Bang Theory?

Yeah, it's a decent show, but I don't understand why we need a four page discussion of it...

[QUOTE="Captain_Swosh69"]

very funny. i cant see any of you explaining how the singularity came to be. the big bang doesnt explain that, so what? where's the logic on how it came to be? nobody can explain that, and for the big bang theory to rely on that BS, totally improbable.

sSubZerOo

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

[QUOTE="Captain_Swosh69"]i know you're not explaining how it came to be. im not taking a hit at you. im just repeating the FACT that nobody can explain that, thus the flaw in the grand scheme.Captain_Swosh69

So basically with that logic, because of that flaw, what we know and can pretty much proove is irrelevant?

It happened. We dont know what, we don't know how, but we do know it happened. This "grand scheme" your talking about is actually false. We just haven't figured out all the pieces of the puzzle, that doesn't mean what we have found so far is false.

If your trying to prove the existence of a God within this whole thing it STILL can be done. We don't know what the catalyst was for the Big Bang. Several theories include a higher power, all of which have just as much plausibility as that of a random occurrence.

Though to say what we have is false becuase we don't know how it started is a invalid argument.

This is science. It may not be 100% fact, but 99% of it is the truth and the reason we have our current world today is because of our ideas and theories that work perfectly in the real world.

Nothing is fact really. Nothing is. To say that you cannot prove something wrong is also incorrect. Its just science, the nature of the beast.

This is why religion is not a science. Religion is based upon answers and our faith in those answers. Anybody who puts Religion in a scientific cagetory misses the whole point of science.

[QUOTE="psychobrew"]The big band theory is far from perfect. Some say that somehow mass was moving faster than the speed of light (perhaps the first warp drive? Hyperspace? Giant worm holes?). What I don't understand is why there are no theories that discuss what happened before the big bang.bean-with-bacon

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"][QUOTE="Captain_Swosh69"]

very funny. i cant see any of you explaining how the singularity came to be. the big bang doesnt explain that, so what? where's the logic on how it came to be? nobody can explain that, and for the big bang theory to rely on that BS, totally improbable.

Captain_Swosh69

Somehow, a blob of mass got in to the universepsychobrew

I really doubt an explosion created the entire universe.

[QUOTE="psychobrew"]Somehow, a blob of mass got in to the universeFunky_Llama

I really doubt an explosion created the entire universe.

Crazyguy105

[QUOTE="Funky_Llama"]

[QUOTE="psychobrew"]Somehow, a blob of mass got in to the universexaos

[QUOTE="Crazyguy105"]

I really doubt an explosion created the entire universe.

-Chimera-

It was an asplosion.

[QUOTE="-Chimera-"][QUOTE="Crazyguy105"]

I really doubt an explosion created the entire universe.

Theokhoth

It was an asplosion.

[QUOTE="Crazyguy105"]

I really doubt an explosion created the entire universe.

-Chimera-

Then what was it?

I never looked into this.

[QUOTE="-Chimera-"][QUOTE="Crazyguy105"]

I really doubt an explosion created the entire universe.

Crazyguy105

Then what was it?

I never looked into this.

Just a hunch, but something tells me absolutely no one on GS is qualified to discuss theoretical astrophysics.

PBSnipes

[QUOTE="Captain_Swosh69"][QUOTE="sSubZerOo"] So sense we don't know why Kennedy was shot, that means he wasn't shot? Or if we didn't know how volcanos worked why they exploded, that ment that we could never prove that they explode? Do you know how ridiculous yoru logic is.. The Big Bang isn't a creationist idea, its merely the earlier point they have made forming how the Universe it is today.. KEY WORD FORMING, not CREATING.xaos

I can only say one thing really...Wow, just WOW.

[QUOTE="Crazyguy105"]

[QUOTE="-Chimera-"] It wasn't an explosion.Funky_Llama

Then what was it?

I never looked into this.

Ah. I highly doubt that.

It seems very unlikely and just sounds weird.

[QUOTE="Captain_Swosh69"][QUOTE="xaos"]Backslide! You don't have to know where the balloon came from to observe its behavior :\Funky_Llama

[QUOTE="Funky_Llama"]

[QUOTE="Crazyguy105"]

Then what was it?

I never looked into this.

Crazyguy105

Ah. I highly doubt that.

It seems very unlikely and just sounds weird.

[QUOTE="psychobrew"]Somehow, a blob of mass got in to the universeFunky_Llama

[QUOTE="Funky_Llama"][QUOTE="Captain_Swosh69"] its the mere presence of the balloon that got me. even if it explains how this universe came to be, before then, there was only...that. improbable. unless there are other universes. anyway, if the universe is really gonna collapse upon itself, where will it end. is there even an end. is so, whats the point of the big bang just to end up being...end. the universe doesnt work that way. to bang then to end. life is not like that. thats rubbish.Captain_Swosh69

[QUOTE="Funky_Llama"]

[QUOTE="psychobrew"]Somehow, a blob of mass got in to the universepsychobrew

[QUOTE="Funky_Llama"]

[QUOTE="psychobrew"]Somehow, a blob of mass got in to the universeAnonymous_2

Stop trying to act all so smart, the discussion on these things is not black and white.

[QUOTE="Funky_Llama"]A rapid expansion of the universe. When something explodes, it explodes into existing space, but with the big bang space itself expanded.

Ah. I highly doubt that.

It seems very unlikely and just sounds weird.

[QUOTE="Crazyguy105"]

[QUOTE="Funky_Llama"]A rapid expansion of the universe. When something explodes, it explodes into existing space, but with the big bang space itself expanded.

xaos

Ah. I highly doubt that.

It seems very unlikely and just sounds weird.

Ah. I highly doubt that.

It seems very unlikely and just sounds weird.