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#1 AmazonTreeBoa
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This is scary.

http://now.msn.com/fbi-hacks-android-phones-according-to-wall-street-journal#tscptmf 

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#2 lostrib
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Pretty sure this has been known to be possible for a while, same with your webcam. Just watch the show person of interest 

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#3 VaguelyTagged
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cool! now i want to work in the FBI.

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#4 GazaAli
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This is indeed scary :?

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Anybody who has any problem at all with this is a fvcking terrorist piece of shit who should be waterboarded in gitmo. Any freedom loving patriot should have nothing to hide.
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Anybody who has any problem at all with this is a fvcking terrorist piece of shit who should be waterboarded in gitmo. Any freedom loving patriot should have nothing to hide. BossPerson
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The only way to eradicate terrorism is to give absolute power to the government. The government is a benevolent entity since it is made up of the wishes of every citizen, and therefore can do no wrong. We really need to stop questioning their righteous authority.

As a person who has dabbled in Android development I can tell you it isn't hard to activate the microphone. 

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#7 Doom_HellKnight
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They can listen all they want. It's not like they'll ever be hearing anything interesting.
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#8 TwistedShade
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Why would they even need to if the NSA's already tracking everything on and off my phone? :P

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#9 Ricardomz
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Come at me feds, I dare you.

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People used to give Bush so much shit for his 'spy' programs.

So much more crap is now happening under Obama that it is disgusting, and he is getting a pass from the media as usual.

The shit going on in the US is getting pretty damn scary. It is only going to get worse.

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#11 LJS9502_basic
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Such paranoid people. The FBI really isn't listening in....unless you've been tied to people you shouldn't be.
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#12 cain006
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Not surprised. Sucks that they think it's okay to do this stuff though.

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#13 outworld222
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I would imagine they can if they needed to, otherwise its not like their gonna activate it because they feel bored or something.

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#14 thebest31406
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The nonsense never ends.
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#15 outworld222
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The nonsense never ends.thebest31406
It's almost like somebody out there is doing this on purpose. WW2 ended between 4-6 years, (depending how you look at it). This wars outlook sais 15 years minumum. Could go 20. Something's not right. Something doesn't add here.

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Airplane mode.
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#17 BenedictArnold7
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Such paranoid people. The FBI really isn't listening in....unless you've been tied to people you shouldn't be.LJS9502_basic
Exactly. People who fear monger with this crap make it sound like the FBI is listening in on everything. The government doesn't remotely consider or care about the average person's personal life. They are not going to be listening in to conversations of people who are nobody's.

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not if u take the battery out
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Welcome to 1995 when the internet became a thing.
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#20 ad1x2
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The government doesn't have sufficient staff to listen in to every single person who has an Android phone. However, if you still believe your private life is at risk pull your battery or don't use cell phones at all. Modern technology comes with its disadvantages for people who want 100% privacy.
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[QUOTE="BossPerson"]Anybody who has any problem at all with this is a fvcking terrorist piece of shit who should be waterboarded in gitmo. Any freedom loving patriot should have nothing to hide. Saturos3091

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The only way to eradicate terrorism is to give absolute power to the government. The government is a benevolent entity since it is made up of the wishes of every citizen, and therefore can do no wrong. We really need to stop questioning their righteous authority.

I agree. Thank you Obama for keeping us safe.

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They can listen all they want. It's not like they'll ever be hearing anything interesting.Doom_HellKnight
This kind of thinking blows my mind. What you said is completely beside the point.

 

Do people even want to live in a free country anymore? Freedom has been eroding away for years.

 

People seem perfectly content with the government's nose in their business.

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[QUOTE="Doom_HellKnight"]They can listen all they want. It's not like they'll ever be hearing anything interesting.BMD004

This kind of thinking blows my mind. What you said is completely beside the point.

 

Do people even want to live in a free country anymore? Freedom has been eroding away for years.

 

People seem perfectly content with the government's nose in their business.

For f*cks sake....the government isn't aimlessly spying on everyone. Same as it's always been....they spy on people on their radar. Put away the tinfoil please....
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[QUOTE="Doom_HellKnight"]They can listen all they want. It's not like they'll ever be hearing anything interesting.BMD004

This kind of thinking blows my mind. What you said is completely beside the point.

 

Do people even want to live in a free country anymore? Freedom has been eroding away for years.

 

People seem perfectly content with the government's nose in their business.

If you want complete privacy then you shouldn't be using the internet or a cell phone. in fact, you should probably be living in the wilderness in a wooden shack.

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Just another reason to drop this stupid phone when my contract ends. So many of my apps have stopped working after declining all the TOU.

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#26 BMD004
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[QUOTE="BMD004"]

[QUOTE="Doom_HellKnight"]They can listen all they want. It's not like they'll ever be hearing anything interesting.LJS9502_basic

This kind of thinking blows my mind. What you said is completely beside the point.

 

Do people even want to live in a free country anymore? Freedom has been eroding away for years.

 

People seem perfectly content with the government's nose in their business.

For f*cks sake....the government isn't aimlessly spying on everyone. Same as it's always been....they spy on people on their radar. Put away the tinfoil please....

It doesn't matter.

 

The government shouldn't have the authority without a warrant to target specific people.

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#27 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="BMD004"]This kind of thinking blows my mind. What you said is completely beside the point.

 

Do people even want to live in a free country anymore? Freedom has been eroding away for years.

 

People seem perfectly content with the government's nose in their business.

BMD004

For f*cks sake....the government isn't aimlessly spying on everyone. Same as it's always been....they spy on people on their radar. Put away the tinfoil please....

It doesn't matter.

 

The government shouldn't have the authority without a warrant to target specific people.

This really is nothing new dude....the devices are different....not the premise.
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#28 BMD004
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[QUOTE="BMD004"]

[QUOTE="Doom_HellKnight"]They can listen all they want. It's not like they'll ever be hearing anything interesting.mems_1224

This kind of thinking blows my mind. What you said is completely beside the point.

 

Do people even want to live in a free country anymore? Freedom has been eroding away for years.

 

People seem perfectly content with the government's nose in their business.

If you want complete privacy then you shouldn't be using the internet or a cell phone. in fact, you should probably be living in the wilderness in a wooden shack.

I never said I wanted complete privacy.

 

I'm saying the GOVERNMENT should not have the authority to do what they have been doing.

 

We don't live in a dictatorship.

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#29 JohnF111
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"What's that noise.. listen.. Sounds like he's fapping." "Yep definitely fapping, he's in Murica so lets check his browser history".
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[QUOTE="BMD004"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] For f*cks sake....the government isn't aimlessly spying on everyone. Same as it's always been....they spy on people on their radar. Put away the tinfoil please....LJS9502_basic

It doesn't matter.

 

The government shouldn't have the authority without a warrant to target specific people.

This really is nothing new dude....the devices are different....not the premise.

So?

 

The length of time something has been going on doesn't make it right as time passes. It is just as wrong now as it ever has been.

 

And yes, it is new to us. Nobody was aware that the government can snoop on everybody without a warrant to the extent that they do.

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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="BMD004"]It doesn't matter.

 

The government shouldn't have the authority without a warrant to target specific people.

BMD004

This really is nothing new dude....the devices are different....not the premise.

So?

 

The length of time something has been going on doesn't make it right as time passes. It is just as wrong now as it ever has been.

 

And yes, it is new to us. Nobody was aware that the government can snoop on everybody without a warrant to the extent that they do.

You must be naive then if it's new to you....
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#32 Saturos3091
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] For f*cks sake....the government isn't aimlessly spying on everyone. Same as it's always been....they spy on people on their radar. Put away the tinfoil please....

Wrong in the case of the NSA and their enormous data centers where everything is being stored - permanently. In the case of this microphone activation you're totally right though, but regardless there's an ethical line that they're straddling and it brings up many questions as to the future of privacy and individual rights.
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#33 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="Saturos3091"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] For f*cks sake....the government isn't aimlessly spying on everyone. Same as it's always been....they spy on people on their radar. Put away the tinfoil please....

Wrong in the case of the NSA and their enormous data centers where everything is being stored - permanently. In the case of this microphone activation you're totally right though, but regardless there's an ethical line that they're straddling and it brings up many questions as to the future of privacy and individual rights.

Enormous storage? Yeah....not true.
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[QUOTE="BMD004"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] This really is nothing new dude....the devices are different....not the premise.LJS9502_basic

So?

 

The length of time something has been going on doesn't make it right as time passes. It is just as wrong now as it ever has been.

 

And yes, it is new to us. Nobody was aware that the government can snoop on everybody without a warrant to the extent that they do.

You must be naive then if it's new to you....

Did you know about it?

 

No.

 

Nobody did.

 

Nobody knew that the government could listen in to anybody's phone calls without a warrant. Or read through anybody's emails without a warrant. Or Facebook messages, or turn on their webcams or cell phone cameras, go through their text messages, etc, all without a warrant.

 

If it is illegal for me to hack into your stuff, then it is illegal for the government. A warrant gives special permission to  go through a person's things because there was probable cause to do so.

 

The government having the capability to go through all of your stuff with the click of a button on anybody is a complete invasion of privacy.

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#35 deactivated-6127ced9bcba0
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So can hackers.

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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="BMD004"]So?

 

The length of time something has been going on doesn't make it right as time passes. It is just as wrong now as it ever has been.

 

And yes, it is new to us. Nobody was aware that the government can snoop on everybody without a warrant to the extent that they do.

BMD004

You must be naive then if it's new to you....

Did you know about it?

 

No.

 

Nobody did.

 

Nobody knew that the government could listen in to anybody's phone calls without a warrant. Or read through anybody's emails without a warrant. Or Facebook messages, or turn on their webcams or cell phone cameras, go through their text messages, etc, all without a warrant.

 

If it is illegal for me to hack into your stuff, then it is illegal for the government. A warrant gives special permission to  go through a person's things because there was probable cause to do so.

 

The government having the capability to go through all of your stuff with the click of a button on anybody is a complete invasion of privacy.

The government has been wiretapping since forever and without warrants. Yep...you are naive.
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Enormous storage? Yeah....not true.LJS9502_basic
Uh, very true. What's more enormous is the amount of funding that's being wasted on these data centers that are popping up all over the nation. The NSA's top director even came out and stated that they've prevented "at most one terrorist attack" thanks to these things.

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[QUOTE="BMD004"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]You must be naive then if it's new to you....LJS9502_basic

Did you know about it?

 

No.

 

Nobody did.

 

Nobody knew that the government could listen in to anybody's phone calls without a warrant. Or read through anybody's emails without a warrant. Or Facebook messages, or turn on their webcams or cell phone cameras, go through their text messages, etc, all without a warrant.

 

If it is illegal for me to hack into your stuff, then it is illegal for the government. A warrant gives special permission to  go through a person's things because there was probable cause to do so.

 

The government having the capability to go through all of your stuff with the click of a button on anybody is a complete invasion of privacy.

The government has been wiretapping since forever and without warrants. Yep...you are naive.

I'm not saying they haven't. When have I said that?

 

I'm saying it is wrong.

 

It was wrong if they have done it in the past, and it is wrong if they do it now.

 

Why do you think is is okay just because they have done it before?

 

You are calling me naive, but that doesnt' even make sense. We aren't arguing whether or not they have done things in the past. We are arguing whether what they do is ethical or not.

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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Enormous storage? Yeah....not true.Saturos3091

Uh, very true. What's more enormous is the amount of funding that's being wasted on these data centers that are popping up all over the nation. The NSA's top director even came out and stated that they've prevented "at most one terrorist attack" thanks to these things.

None of which means they are sitting and spying on the average person. You highly overestimate government capability.
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="BMD004"]Did you know about it?

 

No.

 

Nobody did.

 

Nobody knew that the government could listen in to anybody's phone calls without a warrant. Or read through anybody's emails without a warrant. Or Facebook messages, or turn on their webcams or cell phone cameras, go through their text messages, etc, all without a warrant.

 

If it is illegal for me to hack into your stuff, then it is illegal for the government. A warrant gives special permission to  go through a person's things because there was probable cause to do so.

 

The government having the capability to go through all of your stuff with the click of a button on anybody is a complete invasion of privacy.

BMD004

The government has been wiretapping since forever and without warrants. Yep...you are naive.

I'm not saying they haven't. When have I said that?

 

I'm saying it is wrong.

 

It was wrong if they have done it in the past, and it is wrong if they do it now.

 

Why do you think is is okay just because they have done it before?

 

You are calling me naive, but that doesnt' even make sense. We aren't arguing whether or not they have done things in the past. We are arguing whether what they do is ethical or not.

So when you said above no one knew....you were wrong and admit that now?
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#41 JohnF111
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="BMD004"]So?

 

The length of time something has been going on doesn't make it right as time passes. It is just as wrong now as it ever has been.

 

And yes, it is new to us. Nobody was aware that the government can snoop on everybody without a warrant to the extent that they do.

BMD004

You must be naive then if it's new to you....

Did you know about it?

 

No.

 

Nobody did.

 

Nobody knew that the government could listen in to anybody's phone calls without a warrant. Or read through anybody's emails without a warrant. Or Facebook messages, or turn on their webcams or cell phone cameras, go through their text messages, etc, all without a warrant.

 

If it is illegal for me to hack into your stuff, then it is illegal for the government. A warrant gives special permission to  go through a person's things because there was probable cause to do so.

 

The government having the capability to go through all of your stuff with the click of a button on anybody is a complete invasion of privacy.

Dude you're in a prison, only there are no bars and they never told you. "Land of the free" should have a disclaimer stating "For use by the rich and powerful only, use by the poor is an offense and is subject to prosecution".
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#42 whiskeystrike
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So can hackers.

airshocker

Your point?

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#43 Zaibach
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mobile phones are so mainstream, 

 

I communicate using carrirer pigeons.

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#44 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="airshocker"]

So can hackers.

whiskeystrike

Your point?

If you put it out there....it can be found.
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[QUOTE="BMD004"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] The government has been wiretapping since forever and without warrants. Yep...you are naive.LJS9502_basic

I'm not saying they haven't. When have I said that?

 

I'm saying it is wrong.

 

It was wrong if they have done it in the past, and it is wrong if they do it now.

 

Why do you think is is okay just because they have done it before?

 

You are calling me naive, but that doesnt' even make sense. We aren't arguing whether or not they have done things in the past. We are arguing whether what they do is ethical or not.

So when you said above no one knew....you were wrong and admit that now?

No. I'll explain this as simply as I can for you.

 

Nobody knew that the government was combing over EVERYBODY.

 

And when you bring up wiretapping... it isn't "fact" that the government wiretaps anybody they want without a warrant. Many people assume they probaby have because it's the government, and they've probably done some unethical things before.

 

But nobody really *knew* that they ever really did things without a warrant.

 

And when talking about this whole NSA spying thing, nobody knew the extent to which they have gone to comb through EVERYBODY in the country. Nobody knew that outside of the select people in the government who has worked on these programs.

 

If you say you knew, you are straight-up lying.

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#46 Saturos3091
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] None of which means they are sitting and spying on the average person. You highly overestimate government capability.

I know that. I never said they were if you read my post again, and honestly they don't have to. They're storing large quantities of data packets that are sent across the internet by every citizen giving them a massive back catalog to look through A) if they ever felt like it, or B) if something ever came up.
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#47 whiskeystrike
Member since 2011 • 12213 Posts

[QUOTE="whiskeystrike"]

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So can hackers.

LJS9502_basic

Your point?

If you put it out there....it can be found.

Might is right?

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#48 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="BMD004"]I'm not saying they haven't. When have I said that?

 

I'm saying it is wrong.

 

It was wrong if they have done it in the past, and it is wrong if they do it now.

 

Why do you think is is okay just because they have done it before?

 

You are calling me naive, but that doesnt' even make sense. We aren't arguing whether or not they have done things in the past. We are arguing whether what they do is ethical or not.

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So when you said above no one knew....you were wrong and admit that now?

No. I'll explain this as simply as I can for you.

 

Nobody knew that the government was combing over EVERYBODY.

 

And when you bring up wiretapping... it isn't "fact" that the government wiretaps anybody they want without a warrant. Many people assume they probaby have because it's the government, and they've probably done some unethical things before.

 

But nobody really *knew* that they ever really did things without a warrant.

 

And when talking about this whole NSA spying thing, nobody knew the extent to which they have gone to comb through EVERYBODY in the country. Nobody knew that outside of the select people in the government who has worked on these programs.

 

If you say you knew, you are straight-up lying.

The government still isn't listening to everybody. You wear tin foil don't you?
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I wana play Watchdogs now.
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#50 lightleggy
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Such paranoid people. The FBI really isn't listening in....unless you've been tied to people you shouldn't be.LJS9502_basic
Yeah. They're not turning this on on the average joe...this is for people under surveillance.