The Gamespot Gun Control Debate

America kind of f**ed themselves with being able to legally purchase guns, I don't think banning them will work well particularly the transition period, hypothetically speaking people would hide guns etc and have an advantage over the other civilians who don't have guns. It would be much better if there was no guns at all except military situation and possibly cops but it would be silly to think that would ever happen, well not for now anyway. shadowkiller11

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[QUOTE="DrTrafalgarLaw"] We outlaw gun possesion here. We don't experience mass shootings every other week. See any correlation? And you're right, it's not going to happen with hicks still clinging on to their 2nd amendment and their guns like it's still the early days of America being founded. Hint: It's not. There is no reason anymore for civvies to bear arms. You have a police-system in check, swat, surveillance camera's, the army if neccessary, metal detectors etc. There is no civil war. No foreign threat. Nothing. Why do you still cling on to weapons like barbarians?DrTrafalgarLaw

There would certainly be some advantages to outlawing all firearms, but it would be foolish to ignore the disadvantages. People with bad intentions would most likely still be able to find weapons. All weapons wouldn't magically disappear.

I'd rather get killed by a criminal that got a weapon illegitimately, than live in a society of a constant fear that anyone could bear arms and shoot me.

Unless you live in a terrible ghetto, no one walks around thinking people are going to shoot them. No ones scared for their life everytime they walkout the door. You're clueless.

America kind of f**ed themselves with being able to legally purchase guns, I don't think banning them will work well particularly the transition period, hypothetically speaking people would hide guns etc and have an advantage over the other civilians who don't have guns. It would be much better if there was no guns at all except military situation and possibly cops but it would be silly to think that would ever happen, well not for now anyway. shadowkiller11

The US doesnt need to ban all guns. However there is NO reason for anyone to own an assault rifle

Someone on REddit the other day had a good point. Violent crimes in the United States are a seeping wound, and gun control is just a band-aid for the situation. It may help in a few short-term problems, but it's never going to fix the problem at hand.

Having more guns is the better answer, at least statistically. You look the the US compared to Europe and other developed places, their per capita is much higher when strict gun control is in effect than the US. But that's not to say the more guns is the answer, it's just a band-aid over the wound as well. Even though it discourages a lot of violent crimes, it is the means through which many people gain access to their weapons to commt the crimes in the first place.

My opinion on the matter is gun control is not out of the question, but outright banning them is just as stupid as giving everyone in America a gun. Banning them won't get rid of the guns that already exist. Allow access to guns easily allows many nuts to use them with little problem. It is my opinion that gun ownership whould be allowed on the level that it is, but you are only allowed to own the gun if you have the means to protect yourself and others from it, such as much stricter background checks, required gun safes, and a longer wait limit, among other things I'm sure people will think of that don't restrict gun ownership to "illegal" status.

It's a tragedy, and we must realize the dual nature of guns to cause and prevent great harm. They are only tools, and it's them men and women that use them that create the evil done with them. They are calluses to crime, not the cause, but only a mix of availability and safety control can truly make any change.

The US doesnt need to ban all guns. However there is NO reason for anyone to own an assault rifle

Postal_Guy

What's your definition of "assault rifle"?

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The US doesnt need to ban all guns. However there is NO reason for anyone to own an assault rifle

SpartanMSU

What's your definition of "assault rifle"?

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[QUOTE="Postal_Guy"]

The US doesnt need to ban all guns. However there is NO reason for anyone to own an assault rifle

Yusuke420

What's your definition of "assault rifle"?

There should be some degree of gun control compared to how much there is now but banning them would be about as useful as banning illegal drugs.

Most shooting guns are bought legally.

Jankarcop

lol @ idiots who think people would just abandon their murderous plans if they had to go 2 miles down the street and buy a gun for $50 off a crack dealer instead of grabbing dad's out of the closet for free.

Also,

lol @ idiots who think gun control would simply lower stuff like school shootings with no downside like massively increased home invasions, car jackings, all the other crime you aren't mentioning because it doesn't support your argument, etc etc.

We have to go through so much trouble to help ourselves and our own well-being, while obtaining a gun to harm others is simple.

It should be the other way around. The government should enforce a regulation that forces all guns manufactured the US to have electronic safeties. Illegally owning a gun should be the same as driving a stolen car. The gun would be remotely deactivated by gov't officials.

We have to go through so much trouble to help ourselves and our own well-being, while obtaining a gun to harm others is simple.

It should be the other way around. The government should enforce a regulation that forces all guns manufactured the US to have electronic safeties. Illegally owning a gun should be the same as driving a stolen car. The gun would be remotely deactivated by gov't officials.

PinkiePirate

We have to go through so much trouble to help ourselves and our own well-being, while obtaining a gun to harm others is simple.

It should be the other way around. The government should enforce a regulation that forces all guns manufactured the US to have electronic safeties. Illegally owning a gun should be the same as driving a stolen car. The gun would be remotely deactivated by gov't officials.

PinkiePirate

That works amazingly well over in fantasy land where there aren't already millions upon millions of unregistered and unaccounted for guns already in circulation. But hey, have fun getting shot with one of those unregistered illegal firearms while you are on the phone with tech support trying to get your legally purchased defense weapon activated so you can defend yourself.

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We have to go through so much trouble to help ourselves and our own well-being, while obtaining a gun to harm others is simple.

It should be the other way around. The government should enforce a regulation that forces all guns manufactured the US to have electronic safeties. Illegally owning a gun should be the same as driving a stolen car. The gun would be remotely deactivated by gov't officials.

Alter_Echo

That works amazingly well over in fantasy land where there aren't already millions upon millions of unregistered and unaccounted for guns already in circulation. But hey, have fun getting shot with one of those unregistered illegal firearms while you are on the phone with tech support trying to get your legally purchased defense weapon activated so you can defend yourself.

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[QUOTE="Postal_Guy"]

The US doesnt need to ban all guns. However there is NO reason for anyone to own an assault rifle

Yusuke420

What's your definition of "assault rifle"?

Coonfirmed for not knowing what semi automatic means. Doesn't surprise me in slightest when the media throws around the word semi automatic the same way Sarah Palin throws around the word liberal.

All firearms excluding revolvers and muskets can be described as semi automatic.

We have to go through so much trouble to help ourselves and our own well-being, while obtaining a gun to harm others is simple.

It should be the other way around. The government should enforce a regulation that forces all guns manufactured the US to have electronic safeties. Illegally owning a gun should be the same as driving a stolen car. The gun would be remotely deactivated by gov't officials.

PinkiePirate

While we're thinking of ways to piss of the South, lets just round up all the country music musicians and put them behind bars.

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We have to go through so much trouble to help ourselves and our own well-being, while obtaining a gun to harm others is simple.

It should be the other way around. The government should enforce a regulation that forces all guns manufactured the US to have electronic safeties. Illegally owning a gun should be the same as driving a stolen car. The gun would be remotely deactivated by gov't officials.

mingmao3046

Instead of guns, why don't people make special defense weapons and machines to defend against people with guns? Air blasters, sound guns, eye-detecting laser beams, heat-rays....

There are tons of non-violent ideas that would put you in the advantage against someone with a gun.

Instead of guns, why don't people make special defense weapons and machines to defend against people with guns? Air blasters, sound guns, eye-detecting laser beams, heat-rays....

There are tons of non-violent ideas that would put you in the advantage against someone with a gun.

PinkiePirate

I was starting to enjoy watching you be so ignorant but after this post I just feel genuinely sorry for you :(

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We have to go through so much trouble to help ourselves and our own well-being, while obtaining a gun to harm others is simple.

It should be the other way around. The government should enforce a regulation that forces all guns manufactured the US to have electronic safeties. Illegally owning a gun should be the same as driving a stolen car. The gun would be remotely deactivated by gov't officials.

Human-after-all

[QUOTE="PinkiePirate"]

Instead of guns, why don't people make special defense weapons and machines to defend against people with guns? Air blasters, sound guns, eye-detecting laser beams, heat-rays....

There are tons of non-violent ideas that would put you in the advantage against someone with a gun.

Alter_Echo

I was starting to enjoy watching you be so ignorant but after this post I just feel genuinely sorry for you :(

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[QUOTE="mingmao3046"]Are you joking me right now? So your saying the government should be able to turn off all guns in the US? "A FREE people ought...to be armed..." -George Washington "That rifle hanging on the wall of the working-class flat or laborer's cottage is the symbol of democracy. It is our job to see that it stays there." --George Orwell History teaches that all conquerors who have allowed their subject races to carry arms have prepared their own downfall by doing so." --- Adolf Hitler LJS9502_basic

Not to mention that there were more murders per existing firearm than there is now....

What about sleep/stun grenades? They would come in packs of six and you could just pick 'em up at any local store. ^_^

I'm just saying. Using a gun isn't the ONLY way to defend yourself.

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The US doesnt need to ban all guns. However there is NO reason for anyone to own an assault rifle

thegerg

If you post something like that, you could at least explain your reasoning. One sentence post... What a terrible way to get your opinion through.

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[QUOTE="Postal_Guy"]

The US doesnt need to ban all guns. However there is NO reason for anyone to own an assault rifle

bloodling

If you post something like that, you could at least explain your reasoning. One sentence post... What a terrible way to get your opinion through.

When someone is charged with a crime. It isn't the suspects job to prove themself innocent. It's the state's job to prove that the suspect is guilty.

Saying you don't need it isn't a reason to ban something.

When someone is charged with a crime. It isn't the suspects job to prove themself innocent. It's the state's job to prove that the suspect is guilty.

Saying you don't need it isn't a reason to ban something.

DJ419

No... but the fact that you can kill tens of people with it is a good enough reason for me, especially if such a weapon is not needed for any reason whatsoever other than trying it in the shooting range.

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When someone is charged with a crime. It isn't the suspects job to prove themself innocent. It's the state's job to prove that the suspect is guilty.

Saying you don't need it isn't a reason to ban something.

bloodling

No... but the fact that you can kill tens of people with it is a good enough reason for me.

While we are at it lets just ban everything that can be used to kill people. I mean a transit bus can be aimed at and barreled into "tens of people" so lets get it off the street before the criminals catch on!

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When someone is charged with a crime. It isn't the suspects job to prove themself innocent. It's the state's job to prove that the suspect is guilty.

Saying you don't need it isn't a reason to ban something.

bloodling

No... but the fact that you can kill tens of people with it is a good enough reason for me, especially if such a weapon is not needed for any reason whatsoever other than trying it in the shooting range.

So what else should we get rid of that isn't needed that kills people? Cigarettes should be at the top of that list, it's such a disgusting habit with virtually no real benefits to the user. I have a right to clean air don't I? Lets ban them!

Swimming pools killed thousands of children last year. Surely there are far better ways to have fun and exercise. Lets ban swimming pools!

Years ago my neighbor died from falling off his step ladder hanging christmas lights. I have an idea, lets ban ladders altogether, and only allow people with licenses to use them like construction workers. Think of all the jobs that would be creatted and the lives that would be saved!

You know there is a huge heroin epidemic in this country. I saw a documentary on it just the other day. Heroin kills thousands of people every year. It destroys families, lets ban heroin too! Oh wait..........................

You can pretend to live in your Disney inspried fantasy land and ignore facts all you want. But, we don't live in that world.

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[QUOTE="DJ419"]

When someone is charged with a crime. It isn't the suspects job to prove themself innocent. It's the state's job to prove that the suspect is guilty.

Saying you don't need it isn't a reason to ban something.

Alter_Echo

No... but the fact that you can kill tens of people with it is a good enough reason for me.

While we are at it lets just ban everything that can be used to kill people. I mean a transit bus can be aimed at and barreled into "tens of people" so lets get it off the street before the criminals catch on!

Is this a joke? Am I being trolled? This is getting too ridiculous for me to answer.

So what else should we get rid of that isn't needed that kills people? Cigarettes should be at the top of that list, it's such a disgusting habit with virtually no real benefits to the user. I have a right to clean air don't I? Lets ban them!

Swimming pools killed thousands of children last year. Surely there are far better ways to have fun and exercise. Lets ban swimming pools!

Years ago my neighbor died from falling off his step ladder hanging christmas lights. I have an idea, lets ban ladders altogether, and only allow people with licenses to use them like construction workers. Think of all the jobs that would be creatted and the lives that would be saved!

You know there is a huge heroin epidemic in this country. I saw a documentary on it just the other day. Heroin kills thousands of people every year. It destroys families, lets ban heroin too! Oh wait..........................

You can pretend to live in your Disney inspried fantasy land and ignore facts all you want. But, we don't live in that world.

DJ419

As I said, there is no reason for anyone to own such a weapon. I do not want to ban anything else but automatic weapons. Everything you mentionned has a purpose, automatic rifles don't.

You can pretend to live in your Disney inspried fantasy land and ignore facts all you want. But, we don't live in that world.

DJ419

:lol: oh dear...

[QUOTE="tagyhag"]To be honest the biggest instigator of mass shootings is the media, they know it, but they can't ignore the gold mine.santoron

This is how I feel on the matter.

We have to go through so much trouble to help ourselves and our own well-being, while obtaining a gun to harm others is simple. It should be the other way around. The government should enforce a regulation that forces all guns manufactured the US to have electronic safeties. Illegally owning a gun should be the same as driving a stolen car. The gun would be remotely deactivated by gov't officials.PinkiePirate

[QUOTE="DJ419"]

When someone is charged with a crime. It isn't the suspects job to prove themself innocent. It's the state's job to prove that the suspect is guilty.

Saying you don't need it isn't a reason to ban something.

bloodling

No... but the fact that you can kill tens of people with it is a good enough reason for me, especially if such a weapon is not needed for any reason whatsoever other than trying it in the shooting range.

[QUOTE="DJ419"]

So what else should we get rid of that isn't needed that kills people? Cigarettes should be at the top of that list, it's such a disgusting habit with virtually no real benefits to the user. I have a right to clean air don't I? Lets ban them!

Swimming pools killed thousands of children last year. Surely there are far better ways to have fun and exercise. Lets ban swimming pools!

Years ago my neighbor died from falling off his step ladder hanging christmas lights. I have an idea, lets ban ladders altogether, and only allow people with licenses to use them like construction workers. Think of all the jobs that would be creatted and the lives that would be saved!

You know there is a huge heroin epidemic in this country. I saw a documentary on it just the other day. Heroin kills thousands of people every year. It destroys families, lets ban heroin too! Oh wait..........................

You can pretend to live in your Disney inspried fantasy land and ignore facts all you want. But, we don't live in that world.

bloodling

As I said, there is no reason for anyone to own such a weapon. I do not want to ban anything else but automatic weapons. Everything you mentionned has a purpose, automatic rifles don't.

None of the weapons the shooter used yesterday were automatic. Nor were the aurora shooters, nor were columbine's, nor was Virginia Techs. You don't even know what your talking about. You seem to have an irrational fear of black rifles.

This is no more or less dangerous than this.

If you post something like that, you could at least explain your reasoning. One sentence post... What a terrible way to get your opinion through.

bloodling

Because it's not an opinion.

Just because YOU have no reason to own an assault rifle doesn't mean other people don't.