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#1 snakes_codec
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as if they haven't done enough to make themselves look like bullies they now attack a UN compound which was full of food & medical supplies for the refuges in Gaza its time the U.S acted on this now and must give in to the wishes of the other 4 members of the Security Council to end the fighting now .

http://news.uk.msn.com/world/article.aspx?cp-documentid=12817235

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The US won't do anything because Bush is in Isreal's back pocket. It's sad, but it's true. Anything Isreal wants to do, the US will back them.
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#3 Wasdie  Moderator
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Well this defeantly is disturbing. Its probably time the UN steps up and does its freaken job.
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#4 lancelot200
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They said it was mistake. It probably was. I mean they aren't helping themselves.
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I hate how Germany is afraid to speak out against Israel just because they are afraid people will think they are Nazis. It's time to say something, Israel is not the right ally.
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They don't know if it was a mistake or not.
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#7 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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Hamas attacked them from that location, Israel blindly responded and now they're facing the heat. Damn it Israel, you're falling right into the hands of the political warfare that Hamas is playing.
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#8 THE_DRUGGIE
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Yeesh, blowing up a UN building full of food and humanitarian supplies?

I think Israel should ease off the trigger and see where the hell they're firing their missiles at.

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#9 II_Seraphim_II
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How many mistakes before it becomes intentional?
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Israel has proven time and again that it really doesn't give a crap about public opinion or collateral damage. This isn't surprising.
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#11 THE_DRUGGIE
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How many mistakes before it becomes intentional?II_Seraphim_II

You know, I'm starting to think that too. So far they've blown up UN-operated schools, supply lines, humanitarian buildings, and shelters.

Maybe Israel's in a blind rage and wants to see the Gaza Strip burn.

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I hate how Germany is afraid to speak out against Israel just because they are afraid people will think they are Nazis. It's time to say something, Israel is not the right ally.Devour2Survive
And Hamas is the right alliance?
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People have really forgotten what a war is. Everybody dies, not only soldiers. That is why it always boggles my mind when I see people supporting war.
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#14 II_Seraphim_II
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Hamas attacked them from that location, Israel blindly responded and now they're facing the heat. Damn it Israel, you're falling right into the hands of the political warfare that Hamas is playing.Stevo_the_gamer
Hmm...but a UN official said that Hamas never fired from that location...So who do we believe? Israel, which has a lot invested in the this war, or UN who are just try to aid the people in the region?
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[QUOTE="II_Seraphim_II"]How many mistakes before it becomes intentional?THE_DRUGGIE

You know, I'm starting to think that too. So far they've blown up UN-operated schools, supply lines, humanitarian buildings, and shelters.

Maybe Israel's in a blind rage and wants to see the Gaza Strip burn.

I thought it was pretty apparent that Israel is in a blind rage. If you country was surrounded by enemies who want nothing more to destroy you, I think your mentality would be a bit more aggressive.
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#16 II_Seraphim_II
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[QUOTE="THE_DRUGGIE"]

[QUOTE="II_Seraphim_II"]How many mistakes before it becomes intentional?Wasdie

You know, I'm starting to think that too. So far they've blown up UN-operated schools, supply lines, humanitarian buildings, and shelters.

Maybe Israel's in a blind rage and wants to see the Gaza Strip burn.

I thought it was pretty apparent that Israel is in a blind rage. If you country was surrounded by enemies who want nothing more to destroy you, I think your mentality would be a bit more aggressive.

True, but its no excuse. There is never a valid excuse for killing innocent civilians, despite what people may say.
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It says they were attacked from that location. I don't really like Israel much, but it wouldn't be the first time Hamas used a UN compound, hospital, etc as shelter. I can understand stepping up the heat on Israel, but I find it sad that many people here actually support Hamas.
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True, but its no excuse. There is never a valid excuse for killing innocent civilians, despite what people may say.II_Seraphim_II
Their enemies would be doing the same to Israel if they had the capabilities. Its a bad situation no matter what.

Israel has more killing capabilities and their enemies hide within civilian places. Its just a bad situation.

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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]Hamas attacked them from that location, Israel blindly responded and now they're facing the heat. Damn it Israel, you're falling right into the hands of the political warfare that Hamas is playing.II_Seraphim_II
Hmm...but a UN official said that Hamas never fired from that location...So who do we believe? Israel, which has a lot invested in the this war, or UN who are just try to aid the people in the region?

I'd like to point out that the UN official is probably from the Middle East (or is he from somewhere else, I dunno). UN officials are NOT necessarily neutral.
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[QUOTE="II_Seraphim_II"] True, but its no excuse. There is never a valid excuse for killing innocent civilians, despite what people may say.Wasdie

Their enemies would be doing the same to Israel if they had the capabilities. Its a bad situation no matter what.

Israel has more killing capabilities and their enemies hide within civilian places. Its just a bad situation.

There is no excuse for killing innocents. Ever.

Israel should've proven that they were the more sophisticated side by taking a more delicate approach (i.e. not shelling heavily populated areas) and, as a result, would've built up more international support and could've possibly gained some strategic allies.

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[QUOTE="II_Seraphim_II"][QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]Hamas attacked them from that location, Israel blindly responded and now they're facing the heat. Damn it Israel, you're falling right into the hands of the political warfare that Hamas is playing.GamerForca
Hmm...but a UN official said that Hamas never fired from that location...So who do we believe? Israel, which has a lot invested in the this war, or UN who are just try to aid the people in the region?

I'd like to point out that the UN official is probably from the Middle East (or is he from somewhere else, I dunno). UN officials are NOT necessarily neutral.

And the Israelis saying Hamas fired from that location are probably the Israeli military, they are not exactly neutral.
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LOL..."woops, sorry guys...we were aiming at something else".
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[QUOTE="II_Seraphim_II"] True, but its no excuse. There is never a valid excuse for killing innocent civilians, despite what people may say.Wasdie

Their enemies would be doing the same to Israel if they had the capabilities. Its a bad situation no matter what.

Israel has more killing capabilities and their enemies hide within civilian places. Its just a bad situation.

An entities moral standing shouldnt be based on anything other than themselves. Just because there are a lot of psychos out there, that doesnt mean I have free reign to start killing as I please. Like I said, there is no excuse for killing innocents. I dont agree with what Hamas is doing, and there is no excuse for what they are doing, but I think people are fooling themselve and are using double standards if they attempt to justify the deaths of civilians, not saying that you are.
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[QUOTE="GamerForca"][QUOTE="II_Seraphim_II"] Hmm...but a UN official said that Hamas never fired from that location...So who do we believe? Israel, which has a lot invested in the this war, or UN who are just try to aid the people in the region?Devour2Survive
I'd like to point out that the UN official is probably from the Middle East (or is he from somewhere else, I dunno). UN officials are NOT necessarily neutral.

And the Israelis saying Hamas fired from that location are probably the Israeli military, they are not exactly neutral.

Exactly. Nobody knows who is right or wrong because both sides are going to lie and exaggerate. Thank you. No point in jumping to conclusions.
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#27 II_Seraphim_II
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[QUOTE="II_Seraphim_II"][QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]Hamas attacked them from that location, Israel blindly responded and now they're facing the heat. Damn it Israel, you're falling right into the hands of the political warfare that Hamas is playing.GamerForca
Hmm...but a UN official said that Hamas never fired from that location...So who do we believe? Israel, which has a lot invested in the this war, or UN who are just try to aid the people in the region?

I'd like to point out that the UN official is probably from the Middle East (or is he from somewhere else, I dunno). UN officials are NOT necessarily neutral.

I don't know if the UN official is from the Middle East, but I do know that the Israeli President and Soldiers are from Israel. Therefore, Im still more inclined to believe the UN official.
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[QUOTE="GamerForca"][QUOTE="II_Seraphim_II"] Hmm...but a UN official said that Hamas never fired from that location...So who do we believe? Israel, which has a lot invested in the this war, or UN who are just try to aid the people in the region?II_Seraphim_II
I'd like to point out that the UN official is probably from the Middle East (or is he from somewhere else, I dunno). UN officials are NOT necessarily neutral.

I don't know if the UN official is from the Middle East, but I do know that the Israeli President and Soldiers are from Israel. Therefore, Im still more inclined to believe the UN official.

I don't see any point in believing somebody who's country (and the measure of his bias) is unkown. But that's just me.
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IDF used white phospurus, illegal according to the Geneva conventions.

But nope, it's completely okay. Israel can't do no wrong, the country everyone loves.

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[QUOTE="Vanadium2k8"]

But nope, it's completely okay. Israel can't do no wrong, the country everyone loves.

Looks like an album cover.
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lool its self defence !! the death toll of palestinians reached a 1000 , and more than 50% of them are civilians ! isreal are terrorists and the whole words are cowards
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no wonder i hate humanity
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[QUOTE="Devour2Survive"][QUOTE="GamerForca"] I'd like to point out that the UN official is probably from the Middle East (or is he from somewhere else, I dunno). UN officials are NOT necessarily neutral.GamerForca
And the Israelis saying Hamas fired from that location are probably the Israeli military, they are not exactly neutral.

Exactly. Nobody knows who is right or wrong because both sides are going to lie and exaggerate. Thank you. No point in jumping to conclusions.

i think what Tv shows is the truth of whats happening ! not exaggeration ! more than 50% are civilians ! what is happeneing is a war crime !
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This conflict will never end, so the world super powers should put a end to it. Time to Nuke both and then place a monument on the land to a people that couldnt get along. Both sides are majorly screwed up.

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We should issue an ultimatum, they stop or we attack. The simple option would be to get the Isralis to retreat and then take up a peace keeping operation in Gaza much like the one now in Iraq
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Theres a big part of me that feels sympathy for the innocents being killed, but at the same time, they ELECTED HAMAS. They knew what they were electing, and thats a terrorist organization that will purposely put them in harms way to win the hearts and minds of people around the world. On top of the fact that Israel was getting rockets fired into their suburbs. After awhile enough is enough. The bombing of a UN compound though. Yikes this is a mess.
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[QUOTE="Wasdie"][QUOTE="THE_DRUGGIE"]

You know, I'm starting to think that too. So far they've blown up UN-operated schools, supply lines, humanitarian buildings, and shelters.

Maybe Israel's in a blind rage and wants to see the Gaza Strip burn.

II_Seraphim_II
I thought it was pretty apparent that Israel is in a blind rage. If you country was surrounded by enemies who want nothing more to destroy you, I think your mentality would be a bit more aggressive.

True, but its no excuse. There is never a valid excuse for killing innocent civilians, despite what people may say.

so youre right, and anyone disagreeing with you is de facto wrong? Never a valid reason? Have you heard of Hiroshima or Nagasaki? You need to brush up on your history. Theres a thing called "the lesser evil".
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Seeing as I've just come back from Israel, i can tell you all that Israel have evidence (thats video footage, phone calls and photographs) that Hamas was firing rockets from that UN site. Now, even I know Israel is falling right into Hamas's hands here: after all, who is the world going to believe; a small country whose media image has always been tainted by biased broadcasting or the UN? Guys, if you do not know whats going on in the heart of this war and are just listening to second hand news coverage then you really need to just shut up, take a step back and DONT make ill informed judgements.
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no wonder i hate humanitytony2077ca
Humanity is great :o
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Right or wrong, the UN should be doing something. Any country can call for a ceasefire. If that's all the UN is intending to do, then there isn't much point to them.
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[QUOTE="II_Seraphim_II"][QUOTE="Wasdie"] I thought it was pretty apparent that Israel is in a blind rage. If you country was surrounded by enemies who want nothing more to destroy you, I think your mentality would be a bit more aggressive.BiancaDK
True, but its no excuse. There is never a valid excuse for killing innocent civilians, despite what people may say.

so youre right, and anyone disagreeing with you is de facto wrong? Never a valid reason? Have you heard of Hiroshima or Nagasaki? You need to brush up on your history. Theres a thing called "the lesser evil".

Which were completely pointless because the firebombing had nearly crippled Japaan already.
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so youre right, and anyone disagreeing with you is de facto wrong? Never a valid reason? Have you heard of Hiroshima or Nagasaki? You need to brush up on your history. Theres a thing called "the lesser evil".BiancaDK

Even that's questionable. Dropping a nuclear bomb on a heavily populated industrial city with thousands of innocents doesn't sound right to me.

But hey, all those innocent people got slaughtered for a good cause, right? :D

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We should issue an ultimatum, they stop or we attack. The simple option would be to get the Isralis to retreat and then take up a peace keeping operation in Gaza much like the one now in Iraqmarkop2003
You honestly think you comprehend all aspects and facets of this conflict to a degree where you can say what should be done? I think youre flattering yourself now ;)
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So now the Hamas has stooped low enough to use humanitarian buildings as firebases? Even more reason that the Israelis ought to rid the world of those vermin called "Hamas"
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[QUOTE="BiancaDK"][QUOTE="II_Seraphim_II"] True, but its no excuse. There is never a valid excuse for killing innocent civilians, despite what people may say.markop2003
so youre right, and anyone disagreeing with you is de facto wrong? Never a valid reason? Have you heard of Hiroshima or Nagasaki? You need to brush up on your history. Theres a thing called "the lesser evil".

Which were completely pointless because the firebombing had nearly crippled Japaan already.

it waesent completely pointless. Seriously, do some research before you deem it pointless.
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We should issue an ultimatum, they stop or we attack. The simple option would be to get the Isralis to retreat and then take up a peace keeping operation in Gaza much like the one now in Iraqmarkop2003
Who's going to issue that ultimatum? The U.S.?
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[QUOTE="BiancaDK"] so youre right, and anyone disagreeing with you is de facto wrong? Never a valid reason? Have you heard of Hiroshima or Nagasaki? You need to brush up on your history. Theres a thing called "the lesser evil".THE_DRUGGIE

Even that's questionable. Dropping a nuclear bomb on a heavily populated industrial city with thousands of innocents doesn't sound right to me.

But hey, all those innocent people got slaughtered for a good cause, right? :D

They did indeed. I really dont care if youre being sarcastic or not, or find me callous in my opinion.
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So now the Hamas has stooped low enough to use humanitarian buildings as firebases? Even more reason that the Israelis ought to rid the world of those vermin called "Hamas"danwallacefan
You have clear, undeniable, objective evidence that Hamas used UN building to fire on Israel?
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[QUOTE="BiancaDK"][QUOTE="II_Seraphim_II"] True, but its no excuse. There is never a valid excuse for killing innocent civilians, despite what people may say.markop2003
so youre right, and anyone disagreeing with you is de facto wrong? Never a valid reason? Have you heard of Hiroshima or Nagasaki? You need to brush up on your history. Theres a thing called "the lesser evil".

Which were completely pointless because the firebombing had nearly crippled Japaan already.

markop, the purpose of the atomic bombs were to shock Japan into ending the war so we woulden't have to launch an amphibious invasion. 1940s estimates placed the amount of Japanese and American casualties in the millions.
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So now the Hamas has stooped low enough to use humanitarian buildings as firebases? Even more reason that the Israelis ought to rid the world of those vermin called "Hamas"danwallacefan
HAH... you mean like when Israel dropped a bomb on a school, killing 50 people... with every non-Palestinian claiming there were no Hamas militants in the building... and only after days of denial, they agreed that there was no one in there?