[QUOTE="ffaf666"]because the israeli president told them too, he even boasted about it then the whitehouse had to quickly deny it, to prove that their isnt any foreign influence it the country.Stevo_the_gamerI'd like to see where you got word of this. he told the flipping press in front of israeli cameras, its all over israeli t.v and i saw it on the news too. What they didnt show it or something in america?
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="UNHOLY_basic"] its impossible to elect anyone who isnt pro-israel, as irsael has so much pull in this country. UNHOLY_basicWe aren't involved in this.:| Would you bother to not look for opportunities to use emoticons and actually bother to understand what im saying and the conversation im having with other people. You're coming off as very cocky, and you dont seem to even get it.I really don't care what you think of me. The fact is we are not involved in this period. Why should we get involved when Hamas is the aggressor to start with? What don't you get?
Considering you held him up as an expert I have the right to question his credentials. Isn't that how the law works? I take it you have no answer to that. So..why should I believe he is credible? Because he quoted a UN individual that gave no cause for the starvation? Basically it's all smoke and mirrors. Nowhere did his statement reach a conclusion as to why nor provide evidence as to the cause. Case dismissed...lack of factual evidence.LJS9502_basicHe is a person who has worked in the MIddle East and has an ongoing mission there through his Carter Center, in which he received the Nobel Peace Prize in 2002. He is a well versed, well traveled individual who is a former president of the United States. He has said thaat they are being starved over tehre and cited UN reports as proof. You have failed to provide anything which brings his credibilty in to question, or evidence to the contrary, Since you continue to decline President Carter as an authority ont he subject, without any proof, I will provide even further proof: The study Carter was quoting, performed by the UN, found that, "as a result of both closures blocking exports from Gaza and the international and Israeli boycott of the PA; Around 46 per cent of Gaza and West Bank households are "food insecure" or in danger of becoming so [and that] It says that the situation is "more grim" in Gaza where four out of five families have reduced their spending - including on food - in the first quarter of last year alone." http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/half-of-palestinians-in-west-bank-and-gaza-malnourished-437343.html You have a UN study done showing that, as a direct result of the blockade, Palestinians are suffering, and Carter illuminated that in his article.
[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="ffaf666"]because the israeli president told them too, he even boasted about it then the whitehouse had to quickly deny it, to prove that their isnt any foreign influence it the country.ffaf666I'd like to see where you got word of this. he told the flipping press in front of israeli cameras, its all over israeli t.v and i saw it on the news too. What they didnt show it or something in america?I'm afraid I don't watch too much television, the only time I do is when I wake up at the crack of down and watch the local news. You have no proof?
[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Considering you held him up as an expert I have the right to question his credentials. Isn't that how the law works? I take it you have no answer to that. So..why should I believe he is credible? Because he quoted a UN individual that gave no cause for the starvation? Basically it's all smoke and mirrors. Nowhere did his statement reach a conclusion as to why nor provide evidence as to the cause. Case dismissed...lack of factual evidence.VandalvideoHe is a person who has worked in the MIddle East and has an ongoing mission there through his Carter Center, in which he received the Nobel Peace Prize in 2002. He is a well versed, well traveled individual who is a former president of the United States. He has said thaat they are being starved over tehre and cited UN reports as proof. You have failed to provide anything which brings his credibilty in to question, or evidence to the contrary, Since you continue to decline President Carter as an authority ont he subject, without any proof, I will provide even further proof: The study Carter was quoting, performed by the UN, found that, "as a result of both closures blocking exports from Gaza and the international and Israeli boycott of the PA; Around 46 per cent of Gaza and West Bank households are "food insecure" or in danger of becoming so [and that] It says that the situation is "more grim" in Gaza where four out of five families have reduced their spending - including on food - in the first quarter of last year alone." You have a UN study done showing that, as a direct result of the blockade, Palestinians are suffering, and Carter illuminated that in his article.You know it's a third world country of course people will starve. Saying people are starving does not mean it's Israels fault. Everything I've read said there is no blockade on humanitarion items. You have offered the world of one man over all the other things I've read. In fact....it's an estimation you posted. You know the West Bank is suffering due to Hamas..right? Can your provide proof that Hamas isn't stopping the food and medicine from going where it's needed?
[QUOTE="ffaf666"][QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]I'd like to see where you got word of this.Stevo_the_gamerhe told the flipping press in front of israeli cameras, its all over israeli t.v and i saw it on the news too. What they didnt show it or something in america?I'm afraid I don't watch too much television, the only time I do is when I wake up at the crack of down and watch the local news. You have no proof? well i dont know how to link stuff, just type who controls US on youtube. its a video uploaded by unitedbythespirit. Hopefully more videos from other news on it get uploaded. You can also watch a video of Kay Griggs on other country influence.
[QUOTE="UNHOLY_basic"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]We aren't involved in this.:|LJS9502_basicWould you bother to not look for opportunities to use emoticons and actually bother to understand what im saying and the conversation im having with other people. You're coming off as very cocky, and you dont seem to even get it.I really don't care what you think of me. The fact is we are not involved in this period. Why should we get involved when Hamas is the aggressor to start with? What don't you get? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel-United_States_military_relations "WERE NOT INVOLVEDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD :|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|" We have always been a country that send israel tons of military aid, but I guess were not involved by some twisted gamespot logic right? Seriously, you're very cocky and you make some pretty bold statements without knowing anything.
[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="UNHOLY_basic"] Would you bother to not look for opportunities to use emoticons and actually bother to understand what im saying and the conversation im having with other people. You're coming off as very cocky, and you dont seem to even get it.UNHOLY_basicI really don't care what you think of me. The fact is we are not involved in this period. Why should we get involved when Hamas is the aggressor to start with? What don't you get? "WERE NOT INVOLVEDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD :|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|" We have always been a country that send israel tons of military aid, but I guess were not involved by some twisted gamespot logic right? Seriously, you're very cocky and you make some pretty bold statements without knowing anything. We sell them weapons yes...among other countries.
You know it's a third world country of course people will starve. Saying people are starving does not mean it's Israels fault. Everything I've read said there is no blockade on humanitarion items. You have offered the world of one man over all the other things I've read. In fact....it's an estimation you posted. You know the West Bank is suffering due to Hamas..right? Can your provide proof that Hamas isn't stopping the food and medicine from going where it's needed?LJS9502_basic150 trucks of food for 1.5 million people for a month, due to the blockade. Not enough supplies and medicine in the hospitals due to the blockade. Restricting gas from entering. The shutting off of electricity and water. Yet... you claim there is no blockade on humanitarian items? What are you sourcing, because frankly, not even right-wing knee jerks on talk radio would admit to what you're saying.
[QUOTE="UNHOLY_basic"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]I really don't care what you think of me. The fact is we are not involved in this period. Why should we get involved when Hamas is the aggressor to start with? What don't you get?LJS9502_basic"WERE NOT INVOLVEDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD :|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|" We have always been a country that send israel tons of military aid, but I guess were not involved by some twisted gamespot logic right? Seriously, you're very cocky and you make some pretty bold statements without knowing anything. We sell them weapons yes...among other countries.US practically sells weapons to everyone, developing countries or industrial powers, doesn't matter who it is -- capitalism ftw.
You know it's a third world country of course people will starve. Saying people are starving does not mean it's Israels fault. Everything I've read said there is no blockade on humanitarion items. You have offered the world of one man over all the other things I've read. In fact....it's an estimation you posted. You know the West Bank is suffering due to Hamas..right?LJS9502_basicDid you ignore the whole part about "as a direct result of the blockade and the ban on Palestinian exports"? There is clear and undeniable proof that the Palestinian people are suffering as a direct result of the blockade itself. I've provided you with President Carter, a UN report, and you still refuse to see the truth. Since you have failed to provide any counter evidence, I will provide even more. http://us.oneworld.net/article/358626-closure-gaza-strip-threatens-civilian-healthhttp://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7722948.stmhttp://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1037504.htmlhttp://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/dec/21/israel-gaza-strip-middle-easthttp://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/blockade-puts-gaza-on-brink-of-serious-food-crisis-says-un-819731.htmlhttp://edition.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/meast/01/12/gaza.aid.diary/index.htmlhttp://domino.un.org/UNISPAL.NSF/eed216406b50bf6485256ce10072f637/3e3505fd18cfb035852575220052c893!OpenDocument At some point one has to wonder if you are just burying your head in the sand.
[QUOTE="UNHOLY_basic"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]I really don't care what you think of me. The fact is we are not involved in this period. Why should we get involved when Hamas is the aggressor to start with? What don't you get?LJS9502_basic"WERE NOT INVOLVEDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD :|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|" We have always been a country that send israel tons of military aid, but I guess were not involved by some twisted gamespot logic right? Seriously, you're very cocky and you make some pretty bold statements without knowing anything. We sell them weapons yes...among other countries. Not only do we sell them things, we also have joint military efforts that dont necessarily mean were "fighting" their war, but a good amount of our taxes goes to israels defense, if you read that article in the 5 seconds it took you to reply you would have seen
[QUOTE="UNHOLY_basic"][QUOTE="cell_dweller"]The US won't do anything because Bush is in Isreal's back pocket. It's sad, but it's true. Anything Isreal wants to do, the US will back them.LJS9502_basicits impossible to elect anyone who isnt pro-israel, as irsael has so much pull in this country. We aren't involved in this.:| " Every year, the United Nations General Assembly votes on a resolution entitled "Peaceful Settlement of the Palestine Question." And every year the vote is the same: it's the whole world on one side; Israel, the United States and some South Sea atolls and Australia on the other side. The vote this past year was 164-to-7. Every year since 1989-in 1989, the vote was 151-to-3, the whole world on one side, the United States, Israel and the island state of Dominica on the other side."
[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="UNHOLY_basic"] "WERE NOT INVOLVEDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD :|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|" We have always been a country that send israel tons of military aid, but I guess were not involved by some twisted gamespot logic right? Seriously, you're very cocky and you make some pretty bold statements without knowing anything. Stevo_the_gamerWe sell them weapons yes...among other countries.US practically sells weapons to everyone, developing countries or industrial powers, doesn't matter who it is -- capitalism ftw. Thats not capitalism. Capitalism is a free market, not private-public relations. Thats more related to corporatism.
[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]You know it's a third world country of course people will starve. Saying people are starving does not mean it's Israels fault. Everything I've read said there is no blockade on humanitarion items. You have offered the world of one man over all the other things I've read. In fact....it's an estimation you posted. You know the West Bank is suffering due to Hamas..right?VandalvideoDid you ignore the whole part about "as a direct result of the blockade and the ban on Palestinian exports"? There is clear and undeniable proof that the Palestinian people are suffering as a direct result of the blockade itself. I've provided you with President Carter, a UN report, and you still refuse to see the truth. Since you have failed to provide any counter evidence, I will provide even more. At some point one has to wonder if you are just burying your head in the sand.Well it is the internet. I've read reports that state the opposite of what you say....but what would links prove? Would it change your mind? I know what I've read and those same sites exist for you but you don't read them. Why? Why do you NOT get angry at Egypt?
[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="UNHOLY_basic"] its impossible to elect anyone who isnt pro-israel, as irsael has so much pull in this country. Mehdi1984We aren't involved in this.:| " Every year, the United Nations General Assembly votes on a resolution entitled "Peaceful Settlement of the Palestine Question." And every year the vote is the same: it's the whole world on one side; Israel, the United States and some South Sea atolls and Australia on the other side. The vote this past year was 164-to-7. Every year since 1989-in 1989, the vote was 151-to-3, the whole world on one side, the United States, Israel and the island state of Dominica on the other side."You know you can't resolve to make countries like each other...
[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]You know it's a third world country of course people will starve. Saying people are starving does not mean it's Israels fault. Everything I've read said there is no blockade on humanitarion items. You have offered the world of one man over all the other things I've read. In fact....it's an estimation you posted. You know the West Bank is suffering due to Hamas..right?LJS9502_basicDid you ignore the whole part about "as a direct result of the blockade and the ban on Palestinian exports"? There is clear and undeniable proof that the Palestinian people are suffering as a direct result of the blockade itself. I've provided you with President Carter, a UN report, and you still refuse to see the truth. Since you have failed to provide any counter evidence, I will provide even more. At some point one has to wonder if you are just burying your head in the sand.Well it is the internet. I've read reports that state the opposite of what you say....but what would links prove? Would it change your mind? I know what I've read and those same sites exist for you but you don't read them. Why? Why do you NOT get angry at Egypt? Links? I'd love to hear who your sources are.
Well it is the internet. I've read reports that state the opposite of what you say....but what would links prove? Would it change your mind? I know what I've read and those same sites exist for you but you don't read them. Why? Why do you NOT get angry at Egypt?LJS9502_basicI've provided you with tons of evidence from dozens of news sources. I've provided you with a UN report. I've provided you with a former Untied States president speaking out on the matter. You haven't even given me a SINGLE link so far. Why on earth should I believe you? I've given you dozens of evidence that states that the blockade had a real and quantifiable impact on the Palestinian people's ability to live. Besides, who said I wasn't angry at Egypt?
[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Well it is the internet. I've read reports that state the opposite of what you say....but what would links prove? Would it change your mind? I know what I've read and those same sites exist for you but you don't read them. Why? Why do you NOT get angry at Egypt?VandalvideoI've provided you with tons of evidence from dozens of news sources. I've provided you with a UN report. I've provided you with a former Untied States president speaking out on the matter. You haven't even given me a SINGLE link so far. Why on earth should I believe you? I've given you dozens of evidence that states that the blockade had a real and quantifiable impact on the Palestinian people's ability to live. Besides, who said I wasn't angry at Egypt? You also gave him an article from an Israeli newspaper. Haaretz. ;)
[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Well it is the internet. I've read reports that state the opposite of what you say....but what would links prove? Would it change your mind? I know what I've read and those same sites exist for you but you don't read them. Why? Why do you NOT get angry at Egypt?VandalvideoI've provided you with tons of evidence from dozens of news sources. I've provided you with a UN report. I've provided you with a former Untied States president speaking out on the matter. You haven't even given me a SINGLE link so far. Why on earth should I believe you? I've given you dozens of evidence that states that the blockade had a real and quantifiable impact on the Palestinian people's ability to live. Besides, who said I wasn't angry at Egypt?For one thing....I don't know why you turn these topics into blockade anyway. Nonetheless, the sites I've read...and it was several days ago that I last read it said Isreal is allowing humanitarian aid in. I'm sure there is some shortages but then I have to wonder about a country that doesn't make feeding it's citizens a priority...and yes that falls on Hamas shoulders. If you can't see that the enemy to the Palestianians is Hamas I don't know what to say. All Hamas has to do is stop the attacks and sign a peace treaty. Israel will leave them alone. Things were looking decent to the area until Hamas came in. Hamas presents very real concerns to Israel's safety. The concerned Egypt. The West Bank as well. First thing to solve anything over there is Hamas has to care about it's people...and not about it's dealings with Iran.
For one thing....I don't know why you turn these topics into blockade anyway. Nonetheless, the sites I've read...and it was several days ago that I last read it said Isreal is allowing humanitarian aid in. I'm sure there is some shortages but then I have to wonder about a country that doesn't make feeding it's citizens a priority...and yes that falls on Hamas shoulders. If you can't see that the enemy to the Palestianians is Hamas I don't know what to say. All Hamas has to do is stop the attacks and sign a peace treaty. Israel will leave them alone. Things were looking decent to the area until Hamas came in. Hamas presents very real concerns to Israel's safety. The concerned Egypt. The West Bank as well. First thing to solve anything over there is Hamas has to care about it's people...and not about it's dealings with Iran. LJS9502_basicNo more supposition. Give...me..links. I've provided you with dozens of sources and some highly credible sources as well. I've given you presidents, international political agencies, some influential news sources, and even an Israeli news source. All of these sources share one thing in common. They say that the blockade, instituted by Israel, has starved the Palestinians since 2007. You're working against dozens of media outlets and a former persident here. You're going to need lots of proof, not words. I have not said that Hamas is a knight and shinning armour. I've repeatedly said that I'm not necessarily a fan of hamas. My only goal is to show what Israel is doing to the Palestinian peoples. I've more than shown that.
Well for one thing a blockade is an act of war... I'm sure vandalvideo will explain but if Israel imposed the blockade before any rocket fire, then it was Israel who "launched the first salvo" by creating the blockades. p2rusHe's not unbiased. But this states the blockades are in response to rocket attacks and that humanitarian aid is getting in. Just not as much as before in some cases which I've never argued. Only that not all humanitarian aid was stopped.
This one states the first economic blockade came after actions by Hamas meaning they violated the peace treaty.
He's not unbiased. But this [ states the blockades are in response to rocket attacks and that humanitarian aid is getting inLJS9502_basic"a joint survey by three UN agencies in May 2008 found that all Gaza retailers had run out of flour, rice, sugar, dairy products, milk powder and vegetable oil on at least three occasions since June 2007. " Seems like even your own links acknowledge the desparity of the situation.
[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]He's not unbiased. But this [ states the blockades are in response to rocket attacks and that humanitarian aid is getting inVandalvideo"a joint survey by three UN agencies in May 2008 found that all Gaza retailers had run out of flour, rice, sugar, dairy products, milk powder and vegetable oil on at least three occasions since June 2007. " Seems like even your own links acknowledge the desparity of the situation.You missed the point. You said the blockade was total. They had to get it to run out. I said humanitarian aid is still getting in. I didn't mention numbers. Thus I provided the proof that humanitarian aid is getting in.
Now one wonders why Hamas wants to keep the blockade going and why militants are killing Palestinian children.
Oh...Hamas doesn't want to sign a peace treaty either.
You missed the point. You said the blockade was total. They had to get it to run out. I said humanitarian aid is still getting in. I didn't mention numbers. Thus I provided the proof that humanitarian aid is getting in. Now one wonders why Hamas wants to keep the blockade going and why militants are killing Palestinian children. Oh...Hamas doesn't want to sign a peace treaty either. LJS9502_basicSince when did I say that the Blockade was total? Post those exact words. I merely said that the blockade was denying relief to the people of Gaza. Heck, when I quoted Carter I even talked about how it went up to 20% of what it was supposed to be. Even Carter's articles say that the blockade wasn't *total*. My point is that, and I made it quite clear with the abundance of evidence I gave you, Israel is starving Palestinians with their blockade. That was my point, I proved that point. It doesn't matter if a small ammount of trucks are getting in when people are STARVING. Hamas didn't want the blockade to keep going. When the June ceasefire was agreed upon, Hamas urged all militant groups to stand down. Hamas didn't fire any rockets well into August, after Israel had kept the blockade in place for two extra months. After over a year of starving citizens they reacted.
"a joint survey by three UN agencies in May 2008 found that all Gaza retailers had run out of flour, rice, sugar, dairy products, milk powder and vegetable oil on at least three occasions since June 2007. " Seems like even your own links acknowledge the desparity of the situation.You missed the point. You said the blockade was total. They had to get it to run out. I said humanitarian aid is still getting in. I didn't mention numbers. Thus I provided the proof that humanitarian aid is getting in.[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]He's not unbiased. But this [ states the blockades are in response to rocket attacks and that humanitarian aid is getting inLJS9502_basic
Now one wonders why Hamas wants to keep the blockade going and why militants are killing Palestinian children.
Oh...Hamas doesn't want to sign a peace treaty either.
HAHAHA!
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Dude... are you just trolling?
[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]You missed the point. You said the blockade was total. They had to get it to run out. I said humanitarian aid is still getting in. I didn't mention numbers. Thus I provided the proof that humanitarian aid is getting in. Now one wonders why Hamas wants to keep the blockade going and why militants are killing Palestinian children. Oh...Hamas doesn't want to sign a peace treaty either. VandalvideoSince when did I say that the Blockade was total? Post those exact words. I merely said that the blockade was denying relief to the people of Gaza. Heck, when I quoted Carter I even talked about how it went up to 20% of what it was supposed to be. Even Carter's articles say that the blockade wasn't *total*. My point is that, and I made it quite clear with the abundance of evidence I gave you, Israel is starving Palestinians with their blockade. That was my point, I proved that point. It doesn't matter if a small ammount of trucks are getting in when people are STARVING. Hamas didn't want the blockade to keep going. When the June ceasefire was agreed upon, Hamas urged all militant groups to stand down. Hamas didn't fire any rockets well into August, after Israel had kept the blockade in place for two extra months. After over a year of starving citizens they reacted.Every time I mentioned humanitarian aid you contradicted me. Changing stance again? I mentioned that percentage from Carter as proof that I won that round and you said contradicted that as well. Let's face it...every time I said Israel allows humanitarian aid into the strip you took the opposite stance. Actually Hamas is starving the people. You didn't notice that when a blockade is lifted Hamas attacks and gets it shut down again? Israel is willing to open the blockade once attacks stop. Hamas says no. Who is guilty here?
[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]You missed the point. You said the blockade was total. They had to get it to run out. I said humanitarian aid is still getting in. I didn't mention numbers. Thus I provided the proof that humanitarian aid is getting in.[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"] "a joint survey by three UN agencies in May 2008 found that all Gaza retailers had run out of flour, rice, sugar, dairy products, milk powder and vegetable oil on at least three occasions since June 2007. " Seems like even your own links acknowledge the desparity of the situation.Mehdi1984
Now one wonders why [Hamas wants to keep the blockade going and why militants are killing Palestinian children.
Oh...Hamas doesn't want to sign a peace treaty either.
HAHAHA!
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Dude... are you just trolling?
No I'm not the troll. Even in newspapers there is fluff pieces..doesn't matter. Besides it's not the only link I posted though it falls in line with those stories. Now if you can't discuss without attacks please don't respond. I'm not interested.Oh...and that same article was on other sites.;)
Israelis 'shot at fleeing Gazans'
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7828536.stm
Can you find the part of the article where a credible source states that civilians were shot at? Seems to me that the BBC isn't sure if the allegations of civilians being shot at are true. Btw, why do so many of you support Hamas? I'm just curious.
[QUOTE="Mehdi1984"]Can you find the part of the article where a credible source states that civilians were shot at? Seems to me that the BBC isn't sure if the allegations of civilians being shot at are true. Btw, why do so many of you support Hamas? I'm just curious.Israelis 'shot at fleeing Gazans'
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7828536.stm
GamerForca
I don't support Hamas, I support Palestine.
[QUOTE="Mehdi1984"]Can you find the part of the article where a credible source states that civilians were shot at? Seems to me that the BBC isn't sure if the allegations of civilians being shot at are true. Btw, why do so many of you support Hamas? I'm just curious.Israelis 'shot at fleeing Gazans'
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7828536.stm
GamerForca
i spouse a guy of your intelligence would find Fox news a credible source of information
Israelis 'shot at fleeing Gazans'
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7828536.stm
Can you find the part of the article where a credible source states that civilians were shot at? Seems to me that the BBC isn't sure if the allegations of civilians being shot at are true. Btw, why do so many of you support Hamas? I'm just curious.I don't support Hamas, I support Gaza and the West Bank.
Can you tell me why? Are you Islamic? I'm really just curious.[QUOTE="GamerForca"][QUOTE="Mehdi1984"]Can you find the part of the article where a credible source states that civilians were shot at? Seems to me that the BBC isn't sure if the allegations of civilians being shot at are true. Btw, why do so many of you support Hamas? I'm just curious.Israelis 'shot at fleeing Gazans'
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7828536.stm
snakes_codec
i spouse a guy of your intelligence would find Fox news a credible source of information
What the hell is a spouse?
What the hell is a spouse?GamerForcaOh don't be picky mate, you know he made a spelling mistake -- obviously it's supposed to be "suppose".
[QUOTE="ghoklebutter"][QUOTE="GamerForca"] Can you find the part of the article where a credible source states that civilians were shot at? Seems to me that the BBC isn't sure if the allegations of civilians being shot at are true. Btw, why do so many of you support Hamas? I'm just curious.GamerForca
I don't support Hamas, I support Gaza and the West Bank.
Can you tell me why? Are you Islamic? I'm really just curious.Yes I am Islamic. But that is not why I am supporting Gaza and the West Bank. I am supporting them because of their dreadful situation.
[QUOTE="GamerForca"]Can you tell me why? Are you Islamic? I'm really just curious.Mehdi1984
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He's just asking me a question. :?
[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="GamerForca"]What the hell is a spouse? GamerForcaOh don't be picky mate, you know he made a spelling mistake -- obviously it's supposed to be "suppose". :lol: It's very ironic that he questions my intelligence and then makes a very obvious spelling mistake. I have every reason to be "picky".:lol: Aw, I see that now as well. That's a good way to make a fool out of yourself. But I still think you're being picky. :P
It isn't actually a spelling mistake... it's slang. Suppose ... spouse.... rhymes with hose.Mehdi1984No, that's "s'pose" or "spose". A spouse is a partner in marriage. :lol:
[QUOTE="Mehdi1984"]It isn't actually a spelling mistake... it's slang. Suppose ... spouse.... rhymes with hose.GamerForcaNo, that's "s'pose" or "spose". A spouse is a partner in marriage. :lol: That's what he meant. I thought it was pretty obvious. I guess not.
[QUOTE="GamerForca"][QUOTE="Mehdi1984"]It isn't actually a spelling mistake... it's slang. Suppose ... spouse.... rhymes with hose.Mehdi1984No, that's "s'pose" or "spose". A spouse is a partner in marriage. :lol: That's what he meant. I thought it was pretty obvious. I guess not. And therefore he made a spelling mistake after questioning someone's intelligence. It's like asking to be owned. Btw, are you his mom or something? I don't see a point in defending him so vigorously.
http://www.vancouversun.com/news/Jewish+British+lawmaker+likens+Israel+Nazis/1180734/story.html
LONDON - A veteran British Jewish lawmaker compared the Israeli offensive in Gaza Thursday to the Nazis who forced his family to flee from Poland.
Gerald Kaufman, a member of the Jewish Labour movement linked to Prime Minister Gordon Brown?s ruling party, also called for an arms embargo against Israel.
"My grandmother was ill in bed when the Nazis came to her home town . . . a German soldier shot her dead in her bed," Kaufman said during a parliamentary debate on the 20-day-old war which has left over 1,000 dead.
"My grandmother did not die to provide cover for Israeli soldiers murdering Palestinian grandmothers in Gaza.
"The present Israeli government ruthlessly and cynically exploit the continuing guilt from gentiles over the slaughter of Jews in the Holocaust as justification for their murder of Palestinians."
Israel's claim that many of the Palestinian victims were militants "was the reply of the Nazi," he said, adding: "I suppose the Jews fighting for their lives in the Warsaw ghetto could have been dismissed as militants."
Kaufman, a well-known critic of Israel, said Hamas was a "deeply nasty" organization, but said it was democratically elected.
He urged Britain to impose an arms embargo on the Jewish state.
"It is time for our government to make clear to the Israeli government that its conduct and policies are unacceptable and to impose a total arms ban on Israel," he said.
"It is time for peace - but real peace, not the solution by conquest which is Israel's real goal but which is impossible for them to achieve. They are not simply war criminals, they are fools," he added.
as if they haven't done enough to make themselves look like bullies they now attack a UN compound which was full of food & medical supplies for the refuges in Gaza its time the U.S acted on this now and must give in to the wishes of the other 4 members of the Security Council to end the fighting now .
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Yeah but they havent managed to bomb their own troops yet oh sorry that the us forces that do thatPlease Log In to post.
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