The "T" should be removed from LGBT

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#101 Ace6301
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[QUOTE="dave123321"][QUOTE="Ace6301"][QUOTE="dave123321"] oh

Refresh my memory. He seems pretty consistent looking at his twitter and posts on other sites. His WoWhead posts are obviously different because they're older but the more recent ones seem to be more in line with what we see.

Mostly the kraychik thing.

No idea what this thing is. Considering Krachik has youtube videos over 4 years old talking about the same stuff we heard endlessly juxtaposed with Lai speaking in third person that long ago it doesn't seem too likely that they're the same. The other thing is that I really can't see someone being that invested in the internet and actually having any sort of a life. Basically my argument boils down to I don't think anyone is as sad as you're implying this individual would be.
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#102 deactivated-5b1e62582e305
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Kraychik being Laihendi and vice-versa is moronic. ZionismFTW isn't Kraychik either.

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#103 nomsayin
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Kraychik being Laihendi and vice-versa is moronic. ZionismFTW isn't Kraychik either.

Aljosa23
is ZionismFTW and Lai the same person?
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#104 dave123321
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[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]

Kraychik being Laihendi and vice-versa is moronic. ZionismFTW isn't Kraychik either.

nomsayin
is ZionismFTW and Lai the same person?

Pretty sure ftw is Bruce or kk
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#105 deactivated-5b1e62582e305
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[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]

Kraychik being Laihendi and vice-versa is moronic. ZionismFTW isn't Kraychik either.

nomsayin

is ZionismFTW and Lai the same person?

I highly doubt that. Laihendi is pretty dedicated to his Laihendi persona and making another doesn't make much sense.

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#106 nomsayin
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[QUOTE="nomsayin"][QUOTE="Aljosa23"]

Kraychik being Laihendi and vice-versa is moronic. ZionismFTW isn't Kraychik either.

dave123321
is ZionismFTW and Lai the same person?

Pretty sure ftw is Bruce or kk

Bruce is suspended and Droid said kk quit, so probably not. Both of them seem too dumb to be ZionismFTW.
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#107 dave123321
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Though Bruce always complains and is mopey when they suspend him, so leaning towards him not having a third account.
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#108 deactivated-5b78379493e12
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[QUOTE="PannicAtack"]

[QUOTE="Laihendi"] The law of identity does not contradict the existence of symbols. I am not talking about theories of supernatural metaphysics; I am talking about representations that exist and have meaning here in the physical world.Laihendi

No. That makes no sense - if we are to talk about things in the rational point of view, a physical thing is itself - not a "representation" of an "ideal." That is something that exists only in the mind of the viewer, not a thing inherent to something's existence.

You're contradicting yourself again.

A rational person will associate the male body with strength, because in general the male body is capable of great physical strength relative to what women are capable of. Physical strength is necessary to function in a physical world, and that is why it is rational to respect the capacity for physical strength - if you value life, then you respect the strength of body that makes it possible. There is no contradiction in what I am saying.

Unless physical strength of the body is not the most important aspect of being male or female. What use is physical strength in philosophy, science or politics?

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#109 nomsayin
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Bruce will be missed. He has become an integral part of OT. 

 

jimkabrhel

Pay attention to your screen. 

 

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#110 branketra
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The Laihendi in this thread is the same user who said mentally ill individuals are sub-human, so every time Laihendi calls something a mental illness that is also calling it less than human. 

FYI

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#111 deactivated-5b78379493e12
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Bruce will be missed. He has become an integral part of OT. 

 

[QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]

nomsayin

Pay attention to your screen. 

 

What?

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#112 nomsayin
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jimkabrhel
u aware?
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#113 deactivated-5b78379493e12
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[QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]nomsayin
u aware?

You making sense? No.

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[QUOTE="nomsayin"][QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]jimkabrhel

u aware?

You making sense? No.

It's okay. You'll be cognizant eventually. Hint: northeast
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#115 dave123321
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he wants you to check your pms
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#116 deactivated-5b78379493e12
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he wants you to check your pmsdave123321

Thanks, sherlock.

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#117 dave123321
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Not liking the tone
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#118 nomsayin
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Not liking the tonedave123321

Fight fight fight fight.

we need

more OT

drama

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#119 deactivated-5b78379493e12
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Not liking the tonedave123321

I'm not liking yours Dave.

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#120 Rich3232
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I'm not liking how you people can somehow hear "tone" over the internet.
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#121 dave123321
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[QUOTE="dave123321"]Not liking the tonejimkabrhel

I'm not liking yours Dave.

It's just that I am never aware of who knows what most of the time. Because half the time when we discuss who's and who's alts are, most of the people guessing already know full well who they are and are just messing around.
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#122 dave123321
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I'm not liking how you people can somehow hear "tone" over the internet. Rich3232
don't think he was serious
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#123 dave123321
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Neither was I
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[QUOTE="Rich3232"]I'm not liking how you people can somehow hear "tone" over the internet. dave123321
don't think he was serious

I wasn't, and I don't feel the need to figure out who's alt is what. 

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#125 nomsayin
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Neither was I dave123321
Dave how is your city doing after last night's devastating loss? Have there been any riots? Are all of your friends sad and depressed?
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#126 dave123321
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hushed disappointment
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#127 dave123321
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After Tuesdays debacle, think we had resigned acceptence that it wasn't going to happen
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#128 nomsayin
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After Tuesdays debacle, think we had resigned acceptence that it wasn't going to happen dave123321
Sorry about that man. I was rooting for you guys. I know you guys have great, loyal fans, unlike Miami. Wish your entire organization the best in their future endeavors. 

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#129 nomsayin
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Also, be happy your basketball team is doing well. My city's team is ***. 

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#130 dave123321
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Am happy overall with them
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What are your plans for tonight?
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#132 dave123321
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Going to go see Before Midnight with a friend and then go eat. Or eat then go see the movie.
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#133 nomsayin
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Going to go see Before Midnight with a friend and then go eat. Or eat then go see the movie. dave123321
Enjoy yourself. I am going to a restaurant with my family. Hopefully it will be pleasurable.
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#134 dave123321
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Hope you have a good time. Talk to you later man
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hushed disappointment dave123321
at least your city has a team :(

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#136 Lockedge
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This thread is kind of really silly. A lot of people still think Penis=Male=Masculine=Heterosexual, and when people deviate from that, they can face stigma. So of course, LGB people's struggles are caused by the same social forces as trans* people do with their struggles (and trans* folk can be LGB as well). People still hate on gay men because being gay is considered feminine to some, just like how trans women are often thought of as really gay men who take an extra step. That rather illogical and idiotic link of ideas was forged a long time ago, and it still persists. It obviously gets more complicated than that in terms of more precise struggles, but at their base, the reason why LGB people are stigmatized is roughly the same as why trans* people are.
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#137 ionusX
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TC is entitled to his opinions lads n ladies.. just as we are entitled to hit him with a bat in furstrations after the party as he goes to his car.

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#138 Guybrush_3
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I am gay and I don't think the T should be included. Its a WHOLE different issue, so I don't know why its being added to us. Being attracted to the same sex is a whole lot different issue than thinking you are a member the opposite sex. We dont choose to be gay. Nobody can prove we chose to either. However, we can prove that you were born a man or woman, so that is a choice to have a sex change. Its a fact.

 

I think the T is setting us back from progress because a whole different issue is being lumped in with us for no reason. . Our issue is a whole different matter, and not all gay people think having operations removing the gentilia you were born with is ok. 

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A biggoted gay. Isn't that cute.

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#139 heeweesRus
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I am Kraychik

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#140 dkdk999
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I personally am not against being transgender, but I think anyone who makes that choice has psychological problems and I feel for them.
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#141 Aquat1cF1sh
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I'm gay and I agree, they're two completely different issues... But I'm totally fine with it being lumped in under the LGBT umbrella and fully support all transgender individuals.
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#142 deactivated-5b78379493e12
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I am Kraychik

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You wish.

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#143 Barbariser
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I can't believe my eyes. A homosexual who wants to exclude other groups of people on the basis that they are different? :|

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#144 Leejjohno
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I can't believe my eyes. A homosexual who wants to exclude other groups of people on the basis that they are different? :|

Barbariser

It's not actually all that uncommon. Just because somebody is gay doesn't mean they have to be open minded.

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[QUOTE="Barbariser"]

I can't believe my eyes. A homosexual who wants to exclude other groups of people on the basis that they are different? :|

Leejjohno

It's not actually all that uncommon. Just because somebody is gay doesn't mean they have to be open minded.

The LGBT movement isn't quite so happily unified. You got folks who marginalize bisexuals because they think they aren't really gay or or just posers or they have it easier. Then you have bisexuals who think EVERYONE is bisexual. And of course, there are factions that hate the transpeople.
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[QUOTE="Leejjohno"]

[QUOTE="Barbariser"]

I can't believe my eyes. A homosexual who wants to exclude other groups of people on the basis that they are different? :|

PannicAtack

It's not actually all that uncommon. Just because somebody is gay doesn't mean they have to be open minded.

The LGBT movement isn't quite so happily unified. You got folks who marginalize bisexuals because they think they aren't really gay or or just posers or they have it easier. Then you have bisexuals who think EVERYONE is bisexual. And of course, there are factions that hate the transpeople.

Yeah I know. People are people at the end of the day and there is always going to be a good selection of pr*cks in any crowd.

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/21/lgbt-asexual_n_3385530.html?ncid=edlinkusaolp00000003

interesting!

Well people have different views and they're all human rights. You should be happy so long as someone is fighting for your rights out there.

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#148 MakeMeaSammitch
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I don't think the T issue is really as understood atm.

Maybe we should wait a while before we judge.

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#150 chaoscougar1
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That's kinda hypocritical chaplainDMK