The September 11, 2001 Attacks on America

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#201 AHUGECAT
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[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

[QUOTE="OregonTrailing"]All the conspiracy theorist please read THIS.OregonTrailing

Im scanning and Im already finding falsehoods. For example:

Why are there no burn or scrape marks?

Why is it so far from the impact point?

Why is it so small it can be picked up by hand?

But I thought it was a missle? Missle usually don't have AA markings on them...

Yeah but planted debris has AA markings. It's small enough to be picked up by hand because it was planted by hand.

How did this small piece that is located near the front of the fuselage land outside so far away from the point of impact when we were told the entire fuselage of Flight 77 shot through the building all the way up to the 3rd Ring?

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#202 mig_killer2
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[QUOTE="mig_killer2"]a missile coulden't have created that hole. it was created when the fire burned through the cementLukeAF24

I'm pretty sure it's already been proven that it's from the landing gear.

that's what they said on the history channel, but screw loose change did say it was the landing gear
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#203 mig_killer2
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[QUOTE="OregonTrailing"][QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

[QUOTE="OregonTrailing"]All the conspiracy theorist please read THIS.AHUGECAT

Im scanning and Im already finding falsehoods. For example:

Why are there no burn or scrape marks?

Why is it so far from the impact point?

Why is it so small it can be picked up by hand?

But I thought it was a missle? Missle usually don't have AA markings on them...

Yeah but planted debris has AA markings. It's small enough to be picked up by hand because it was planted by hand.

How did this small piece that is located near the front of the fuselage land outside so far away from the point of impact when we were told the entire fuselage of Flight 77 shot through the building all the way up to the 3rd Ring?

that's not the only piece of debris found. lots of plane debris was found inside the pentagon, including part of the turbine engine.
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[QUOTE="chrisrooR"][QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="chrisrooR"][QUOTE="OregonTrailing"][QUOTE="AHUGECAT"][QUOTE="OregonTrailing"]

[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]Can anyone show me debris from the plane that SUPPOSEDLY hit the Pentagon?mig_killer2

My mom works literally across the street from the Pentagon. She was outside facing the Pentagon when it happened. She actually saw the plane heading straight for thr Pentagon and the ensuing chaos. She called me and told me she saw an American Airlines jet crash. YOU FAIL.

Witnesses mean nothing without documentary proof. If a plane the magnititude of a 757 hit the Pentagon, there would be significant debris. Even the damage looks it imploded.

So your calling my mom a liar?

How about this:

actually...it kind of does resemble a missle. :|

so you're going to tell me that one tomohawk missile swerved and took out 5 light polls and a good chunk of a generator before hitting the pentagon?

hey, i'm just saying that it looks an AWFUL lot like a missile.

especially creating a hole like that ^^ :|

a missile coulden't have created that hole. it was created when the fire burned through the cement

last time i checked cement was noncombustible. :|

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#205 GarchomPro
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http://www.freedomfiles.org/war/pentagon.htm

That site might help clear up the mis understandings that those american patriots believe so much in
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[QUOTE="chrisrooR"][QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="chrisrooR"][QUOTE="OregonTrailing"][QUOTE="AHUGECAT"][QUOTE="OregonTrailing"]

[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]Can anyone show me debris from the plane that SUPPOSEDLY hit the Pentagon?mig_killer2

So your calling my mom a liar?

How about this:

actually...it kind of does resemble a missle. :|

so you're going to tell me that one tomohawk missile swerved and took out 5 light polls and a good chunk of a generator before hitting the pentagon?

hey, i'm just saying that it looks an AWFUL lot like a missile.

especially creating a hole like that ^^ :|

a missile coulden't have created that hole. it was created when the fire burned through the cement

And there goes another arguement...

Honestly, no 9/11 Conspiracy Theory can stand up to facts. Plain and simple.

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that's not the only piece of debris found. lots of plane debris was found inside the pentagon, including part of the turbine engine. mig_killer2

You don't think it's possible to plant a turbine engine, secretly into the smoldering building, with hundreds of people around?

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[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"][QUOTE="OregonTrailing"][QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

[QUOTE="OregonTrailing"]All the conspiracy theorist please read THIS.mig_killer2

Im scanning and Im already finding falsehoods. For example:

Why are there no burn or scrape marks?

Why is it so far from the impact point?

Why is it so small it can be picked up by hand?

But I thought it was a missle? Missle usually don't have AA markings on them...

Yeah but planted debris has AA markings. It's small enough to be picked up by hand because it was planted by hand.

How did this small piece that is located near the front of the fuselage land outside so far away from the point of impact when we were told the entire fuselage of Flight 77 shot through the building all the way up to the 3rd Ring?

that's not the only piece of debris found. lots of plane debris was found inside the pentagon, including part of the turbine engine.

part of a turbine engine doesn't mean a plane flew into the pentagon.

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#209 mig_killer2
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[QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="chrisrooR"][QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="chrisrooR"][QUOTE="OregonTrailing"][QUOTE="AHUGECAT"][QUOTE="OregonTrailing"]

[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]Can anyone show me debris from the plane that SUPPOSEDLY hit the Pentagon?chrisrooR

My mom works literally across the street from the Pentagon. She was outside facing the Pentagon when it happened. She actually saw the plane heading straight for thr Pentagon and the ensuing chaos. She called me and told me she saw an American Airlines jet crash. YOU FAIL.

Witnesses mean nothing without documentary proof. If a plane the magnititude of a 757 hit the Pentagon, there would be significant debris. Even the damage looks it imploded.

So your calling my mom a liar?

How about this:

actually...it kind of does resemble a missle. :|

so you're going to tell me that one tomohawk missile swerved and took out 5 light polls and a good chunk of a generator before hitting the pentagon?

hey, i'm just saying that it looks an AWFUL lot like a missile.

especially creating a hole like that ^^ :|

a missile coulden't have created that hole. it was created when the fire burned through the cement

last time i checked cement was noncombustible. :|

I checked my sources, turns out it was the landing gear, the strongest part of an airplane
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[QUOTE="OregonTrailing"][QUOTE="mastershake575"][QUOTE="OregonTrailing"]

[QUOTE="newyork_graffit"]First of all, don't call me dude. Second of all, he is your president. You don't like him, big deal, leave America. He is everyone's president, shut your mouth. The reason we are in Iraq, is because he attacking the terrorists. Even liberal yuppies know that al-Qaeda influence is largest in Iraq. You can say it's for oil, you can say it's for his own pleasure, I don't care. He is your president, he is every American's president. You don't like it, big deal, get out of America.chrisrooR

Bush is NOT my president. I didn't vote for him and he never won an election (without cheating)

And just so you know, there is ZERO, I repeat, ZERO, evidence connecting 9/11 to Iraq. Even Bush agrees.

i don't get that she might of done something terrible and wrong but there's no way to tell who those people would of voted for if they didn't get banned from voting

Almost all of the people taken off the registry were black, and they historically vote more in favor of Democrats.

so just because of their different voting opinions they should be completely wiped from voting? gtfo. It is the most respected freedom next to the freedom of speech.

You misunderstood me. Just watch this video.

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Seen that. AHUGECAT

With your eyes shut apparently.

- The fireball is that of a missile, not a plane, and even if it was - why are there no explosion marks on the lawn?Perhaps they were doctored

How do YOU know that? Whatmakes you an expert on digital photography/guided weapons.


- The video skips a frame

Are honestly making this claim? The video skipped for a BILLIONTH OF A SECOND and it's a conspiracy?


- That does not look like a 757 - a 757 flying that low?!?

Yes, believe itor not idiot, planes can flyreally low to the ground. Shocking I know.


- Why did the Pentagon DENY videos of the attacks before?

Obviously for security purposes. How much of a good idea do you think it is to just let stuff like that circle from the outset?

That video is faker than the Osama tapes.

Are you honestly claiming Osama Bin Laden isn't real?

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#212 Dutch_Mix
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Honestly, how much debris do you think you're going to find? The plane hit the Pentagon at almost 600 MPH. :|
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#214 mig_killer2
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[QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="AHUGECAT"][QUOTE="OregonTrailing"][QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

[QUOTE="OregonTrailing"]All the conspiracy theorist please read THIS.chrisrooR

Im scanning and Im already finding falsehoods. For example:

Why are there no burn or scrape marks?

Why is it so far from the impact point?

Why is it so small it can be picked up by hand?

But I thought it was a missle? Missle usually don't have AA markings on them...

Yeah but planted debris has AA markings. It's small enough to be picked up by hand because it was planted by hand.

How did this small piece that is located near the front of the fuselage land outside so far away from the point of impact when we were told the entire fuselage of Flight 77 shot through the building all the way up to the 3rd Ring?

that's not the only piece of debris found. lots of plane debris was found inside the pentagon, including part of the turbine engine.

please enlighten us with pictures of a full turbine engine sitting inside the pentagon. I would love to see one.

the above picture is part of the landing gear,

and this is part of the jet engine

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Id like to see how they explain this 1




And why was ther no impact in the areas wer the planes wings wer supposed to be?


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#216 mig_killer2
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[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]Seen that. CaptHawkeye

With your eyes shut apparently.

- The fireball is that of a missile, not a plane, and even if it was - why are there no explosion marks on the lawn?Perhaps they were doctored

How do YOU know that? Whatmakes you an expert on digital photography/guided weapons.


- The video skips a frame

Are honestly making this claim? The video skipped for a BILLIONTH OF A SECOND and it's a conspiracy?


- That does not look like a 757 - a 757 flying that low?!?

Yes, believe itor not idiot, planes can flyreally low to the ground. Shocking I know.


- Why did the Pentagon DENY videos of the attacks before?

Obviously for security purposes. How much of a good idea do you think it is to just let stuff like that circle from the outset?

That video is faker than the Osama tapes.

Are you honestly claiming Osama Bin Laden isn't real?

actually, the reason the tapes were witheld from the public was because they were being used in a criminal investigation
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[QUOTE="chrisrooR"][QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="chrisrooR"][QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="chrisrooR"][QUOTE="OregonTrailing"][QUOTE="AHUGECAT"][QUOTE="OregonTrailing"]

[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]Can anyone show me debris from the plane that SUPPOSEDLY hit the Pentagon?mig_killer2

My mom works literally across the street from the Pentagon. She was outside facing the Pentagon when it happened. She actually saw the plane heading straight for thr Pentagon and the ensuing chaos. She called me and told me she saw an American Airlines jet crash. YOU FAIL.

Witnesses mean nothing without documentary proof. If a plane the magnititude of a 757 hit the Pentagon, there would be significant debris. Even the damage looks it imploded.

So your calling my mom a liar?

How about this:

actually...it kind of does resemble a missle. :|

so you're going to tell me that one tomohawk missile swerved and took out 5 light polls and a good chunk of a generator before hitting the pentagon?

hey, i'm just saying that it looks an AWFUL lot like a missile.

especially creating a hole like that ^^ :|

a missile coulden't have created that hole. it was created when the fire burned through the cement

last time i checked cement was noncombustible. :|

I checked my sources, turns out it was the landing gear, the strongest part of an airplane

you honestly believe that the terrorists deployed the landing gear before they hit it? Guess again. The landing gear could NOT have punched a 12 foot high hole in a cement wall on the other side of 4 consecutive walls.:|

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#218 Dutch_Mix
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You do realize, mig... That posting facts makes you automatically apart of the conspiracy... don't you? :P
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#219 CaptHawkeye
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Im scanning and Im already finding falsehoods. For example:

Why are there no burn or scrape marks?AHUGECAT

What? Are you serious? Have you ever seen an aircraft wreckage before? Not EVERY part of the plane turns into a smoldering ruin.

Why is it so far from the impact point?

Because God just rapture'd it over there of course. It had nothing to do with the plane exploding at all.

Why is it so small it can be picked up by hand?

What the hell does this have to do with ANYTHING?

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#220 mig_killer2
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Id like to see how they explain this 1




And why was ther no impact in the areas wer the planes wings wer supposed to be?

*the pic with the plane flying into the building but no damage marks on building from wings*
GarchomPro
plane wings are filled with fuel. they would have exploded in impact
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Id like to see how they explain this 1




And why was ther no impact in the areas wer the planes wings wer supposed to be?


GarchomPro

You really think a missle could do this?

Missles are made to explode on impact, not rip through buildings and then explode in a huge, burning, fireball

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#222 rrric
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to all the conspiracies theorists you guys should really study what happened that day

the planes hit the infrastructure weakening the building, and the intense heat of the jet fuel made it more weak. The jet fuel fire actually went all the way to the basement floor, so it affected the entire support system.

Once the infrastructure were the plane hit gave up the floors started to crash down, and the other floors could not hold up because they had been weakened by the fire.

THE JET FUEL DID NOT MELT THE METAL.... metal would have not melted at those temps but they were undoubtely weakened

to the victims RIP

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[QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="chrisrooR"][QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="chrisrooR"][QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="chrisrooR"][QUOTE="OregonTrailing"][QUOTE="AHUGECAT"][QUOTE="OregonTrailing"]

[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]Can anyone show me debris from the plane that SUPPOSEDLY hit the Pentagon?chrisrooR

My mom works literally across the street from the Pentagon. She was outside facing the Pentagon when it happened. She actually saw the plane heading straight for thr Pentagon and the ensuing chaos. She called me and told me she saw an American Airlines jet crash. YOU FAIL.

Witnesses mean nothing without documentary proof. If a plane the magnititude of a 757 hit the Pentagon, there would be significant debris. Even the damage looks it imploded.

So your calling my mom a liar?

How about this:

actually...it kind of does resemble a missle. :|

so you're going to tell me that one tomohawk missile swerved and took out 5 light polls and a good chunk of a generator before hitting the pentagon?

hey, i'm just saying that it looks an AWFUL lot like a missile.

especially creating a hole like that ^^ :|

a missile coulden't have created that hole. it was created when the fire burned through the cement

last time i checked cement was noncombustible. :|

I checked my sources, turns out it was the landing gear, the strongest part of an airplane

you honestly believe that the terrorists deployed the landing gear before they hit it? Guess again. The landing gear could NOT have punched a 12 foot high hole in a cement wall on the other side of 4 consecutive walls.:|

oh right, I forgot, when you deploy the landing gear its not like its in the plane during flight, it magically appears:P. the plane crashed really low. there is a single floor on the pentagon below the rings. thats' where the plane hit
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[QUOTE="chrisrooR"][QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="AHUGECAT"][QUOTE="OregonTrailing"][QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

[QUOTE="OregonTrailing"]All the conspiracy theorist please read THIS.mig_killer2

Im scanning and Im already finding falsehoods. For example:

Why are there no burn or scrape marks?

Why is it so far from the impact point?

Why is it so small it can be picked up by hand?

But I thought it was a missle? Missle usually don't have AA markings on them...

Yeah but planted debris has AA markings. It's small enough to be picked up by hand because it was planted by hand.

How did this small piece that is located near the front of the fuselage land outside so far away from the point of impact when we were told the entire fuselage of Flight 77 shot through the building all the way up to the 3rd Ring?

that's not the only piece of debris found. lots of plane debris was found inside the pentagon, including part of the turbine engine.

please enlighten us with pictures of a full turbine engine sitting inside the pentagon. I would love to see one.

the above picture is part of the landing gear,

and this is part of the jet engine

Okay not so sure about the first one, but the second ones source is never known, so we don't know if it's authentic or not.

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#225 mig_killer2
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[QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="chrisrooR"][QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="AHUGECAT"][QUOTE="OregonTrailing"][QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

[QUOTE="OregonTrailing"]All the conspiracy theorist please read THIS.AHUGECAT

Im scanning and Im already finding falsehoods. For example:

Why are there no burn or scrape marks?

Why is it so far from the impact point?

Why is it so small it can be picked up by hand?

But I thought it was a missle? Missle usually don't have AA markings on them...

Yeah but planted debris has AA markings. It's small enough to be picked up by hand because it was planted by hand.

How did this small piece that is located near the front of the fuselage land outside so far away from the point of impact when we were told the entire fuselage of Flight 77 shot through the building all the way up to the 3rd Ring?

that's not the only piece of debris found. lots of plane debris was found inside the pentagon, including part of the turbine engine.

please enlighten us with pictures of a full turbine engine sitting inside the pentagon. I would love to see one.

the above picture is part of the landing gear,

and this is part of the jet engine

Okay not so sure about the first one, but the second ones source is never known, so we don't know if it's authentic or not.

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread79655/pg1 that's my source
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#226 Dutch_Mix
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So, truthers, is there any other argument you'd like to bring to the table? I do get tired of stating the same facts over and over again. ;)
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#227 AHUGECAT
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to all the conspiracies theorists you guys should really study what happened that day

the planes hit the infrastructure weakening the building, and the intense heat of the jet fuel made it more weak. The jet fuel fire actually went all the way to the basement floor, so it affected the entire support system.

Once the infrastructure were the plane hit gave up the floors started to crash down, and the other floors could not hold up because they had been weakened by the fire.

THE JET FUEL DID NOT MELT THE METAL.... metal would have not melted at those temps but they were undoubtely weakened

to the victims RIP

rrric

Didn't you see the black smoke, which showed the fire was starved for oxygen? Not to mention it wasn't hot enough to weaken the buildings to make it "collapse to dust."

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#228 serjitup
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Id like to see how they explain this 1




And why was ther no impact in the areas wer the planes wings wer supposed to be?


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garr dont even try dude,garr it gets me so flusterd,of course the plane should have atleast ohhhhhh i dont knowwww scrached the glass and area where the wings would hit but whatever dude, people are idiots ane beilive whatever the little newsman says, bet they have not even seen the amazing movie called network,you know the movie where the guys yells " im mad as hell, and im not gona take this anymore " if they watched that movie they would understand how much the media lies.
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http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread79655/pg1 that's my sourcemig_killer2

No but how was the picture obtained?

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#230 OregonTrailing
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[QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

please enlighten us with pictures of a full turbine engine sitting inside the pentagon. I would love to see one.

AHUGECAT

the above picture is part of the landing gear,

and this is part of the jet engine

Okay not so sure about the first one, but the second ones source is never known, so we don't know if it's authentic or not.

So you admit the first one is legit. I didn't know missles had landing gears!

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#231 Dutch_Mix
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[QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="chrisrooR"][QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="AHUGECAT"][QUOTE="OregonTrailing"][QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

[QUOTE="OregonTrailing"]All the conspiracy theorist please read THIS.AHUGECAT

Im scanning and Im already finding falsehoods. For example:

the above picture is part of the landing gear,

and this is part of the jet engine

Okay not so sure about the first one, but the second ones source is never known, so we don't know if it's authentic or not.

It's called the combustor case. ;)

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[QUOTE="mig_killer2"] http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread79655/pg1 that's my sourceAHUGECAT

No but how was the picture obtained?

a guy at the pentagon took it?
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#233 mig_killer2
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[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"][QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="chrisrooR"][QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="AHUGECAT"][QUOTE="OregonTrailing"][QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

[QUOTE="OregonTrailing"]All the conspiracy theorist please read THIS.Dutch_Mix

Im scanning and Im already finding falsehoods. For example:

the above picture is part of the landing gear,

and this is part of the jet engine

Okay not so sure about the first one, but the second ones source is never known, so we don't know if it's authentic or not.

It's called the combustor case. ;)

thanks. I saw that in screw loose change
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#234 chrisrooR
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[QUOTE="chrisrooR"][QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="chrisrooR"][QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="chrisrooR"][QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="chrisrooR"][QUOTE="OregonTrailing"][QUOTE="AHUGECAT"][QUOTE="OregonTrailing"]

[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]Can anyone show me debris from the plane that SUPPOSEDLY hit the Pentagon?mig_killer2

My mom works literally across the street from the Pentagon. She was outside facing the Pentagon when it happened. She actually saw the plane heading straight for thr Pentagon and the ensuing chaos. She called me and told me she saw an American Airlines jet crash. YOU FAIL.

Witnesses mean nothing without documentary proof. If a plane the magnititude of a 757 hit the Pentagon, there would be significant debris. Even the damage looks it imploded.

So your calling my mom a liar?

How about this:

actually...it kind of does resemble a missle. :|

so you're going to tell me that one tomohawk missile swerved and took out 5 light polls and a good chunk of a generator before hitting the pentagon?

hey, i'm just saying that it looks an AWFUL lot like a missile.

especially creating a hole like that ^^ :|

a missile coulden't have created that hole. it was created when the fire burned through the cement

last time i checked cement was noncombustible. :|

I checked my sources, turns out it was the landing gear, the strongest part of an airplane

you honestly believe that the terrorists deployed the landing gear before they hit it? Guess again. The landing gear could NOT have punched a 12 foot high hole in a cement wall on the other side of 4 consecutive walls.:|

oh right, I forgot, when you deploy the landing gear its not like its in the plane during flight, it magically appears:P. the plane crashed really low. there is a single floor on the pentagon below the rings. thats' where the plane hit

listen, i understand that the landing gear was inside the aircraft that the time it hit. All i'm wondering is WTF is with the 12 foot hole in the wall at the other end of the middle of the building; It doesn't make any sense.

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#235 AHUGECAT
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[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"][QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

please enlighten us with pictures of a full turbine engine sitting inside the pentagon. I would love to see one.

OregonTrailing

the above picture is part of the landing gear,

and this is part of the jet engine

Okay not so sure about the first one, but the second ones source is never known, so we don't know if it's authentic or not.

So you admit the first one is legit. I didn't know missles had landing gears!

Where are the other2 rims from the plane?

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#236 Dutch_Mix
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[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"][QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

please enlighten us with pictures of a full turbine engine sitting inside the pentagon. I would love to see one.

OregonTrailing

the above picture is part of the landing gear,

and this is part of the jet engine

Okay not so sure about the first one, but the second ones source is never known, so we don't know if it's authentic or not.

So you admit the first one is legit. I didn't know missles had landing gears!

Duh. How are they supposed to land? :P

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#237 Tylendal
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I was in the sixth grade. It was only once I got home that I realized what happened. Our teacher didn't actually no what had happened, so I was hearing crazy rumours. The general consensus was that a maniac had hijacked a fighter-jet, and was bombing New York. The Twin-Towers were never actually mentioned. It was only after I got home, that I found out what had actually happened, but I was too young to really understand the scope of it all. It seems unbelievable that it was a whole six years ago. That's more than a third of my life.
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#238 mig_killer2
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[QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="chrisrooR"][QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="chrisrooR"][QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="chrisrooR"][QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="chrisrooR"][QUOTE="OregonTrailing"][QUOTE="AHUGECAT"][QUOTE="OregonTrailing"]

[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]Can anyone show me debris from the plane that SUPPOSEDLY hit the Pentagon?chrisrooR

My mom works literally across the street from the Pentagon. She was outside facing the Pentagon when it happened. She actually saw the plane heading straight for thr Pentagon and the ensuing chaos. She called me and told me she saw an American Airlines jet crash. YOU FAIL.

Witnesses mean nothing without documentary proof. If a plane the magnititude of a 757 hit the Pentagon, there would be significant debris. Even the damage looks it imploded.

So your calling my mom a liar?

How about this:

actually...it kind of does resemble a missle. :|

so you're going to tell me that one tomohawk missile swerved and took out 5 light polls and a good chunk of a generator before hitting the pentagon?

hey, i'm just saying that it looks an AWFUL lot like a missile.

especially creating a hole like that ^^ :|

a missile coulden't have created that hole. it was created when the fire burned through the cement

last time i checked cement was noncombustible. :|

I checked my sources, turns out it was the landing gear, the strongest part of an airplane

you honestly believe that the terrorists deployed the landing gear before they hit it? Guess again. The landing gear could NOT have punched a 12 foot high hole in a cement wall on the other side of 4 consecutive walls.:|

oh right, I forgot, when you deploy the landing gear its not like its in the plane during flight, it magically appears:P. the plane crashed really low. there is a single floor on the pentagon below the rings. thats' where the plane hit

listen, i understand that the landing gear was inside the aircraft that the time it hit. All i'm wondering is WTF is with the 12 foot hole in the wall at the other end of the middle of the building; It doesn't make any sense.

http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb214/chrisrooR/pentamissile.jpg

the landing gear is the strongest part of an airplane.

second, a cruise missile cannot possibly punch through 3 interior walls

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#239 mig_killer2
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[QUOTE="OregonTrailing"][QUOTE="AHUGECAT"][QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

please enlighten us with pictures of a full turbine engine sitting inside the pentagon. I would love to see one.

AHUGECAT

the above picture is part of the landing gear,

and this is part of the jet engine

Okay not so sure about the first one, but the second ones source is never known, so we don't know if it's authentic or not.

So you admit the first one is legit. I didn't know missles had landing gears!

Where are the other2 rims from the plane?

rims?
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#240 AHUGECAT
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[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"][QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="chrisrooR"][QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="AHUGECAT"][QUOTE="OregonTrailing"][QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

[QUOTE="OregonTrailing"]All the conspiracy theorist please read THIS.Dutch_Mix

Im scanning and Im already finding falsehoods. For example:

the above picture is part of the landing gear,

and this is part of the jet engine

Okay not so sure about the first one, but the second ones source is never known, so we don't know if it's authentic or not.

It's called the combustor case. ;)

I'm not asking what it's called, but how do we know it's from the Pentagon? From the original source, they never say how/where/when they obtained the image.

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#241 funnymario
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How long is thing going to go on for :roll:
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#242 mig_killer2
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[QUOTE="Dutch_Mix"][QUOTE="AHUGECAT"][QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="chrisrooR"][QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="AHUGECAT"][QUOTE="OregonTrailing"][QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

[QUOTE="OregonTrailing"]All the conspiracy theorist please read THIS.AHUGECAT

Im scanning and Im already finding falsehoods. For example:

the above picture is part of the landing gear,

and this is part of the jet engine

Okay not so sure about the first one, but the second ones source is never known, so we don't know if it's authentic or not.

It's called the combustor case. ;)

I'm not asking what it's called, but how do we know it's from the Pentagon? From the original source, they never say how/where/when they obtained the image.

so, basically, you're totally paranoid?
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#243 AHUGECAT
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[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"][QUOTE="OregonTrailing"][QUOTE="AHUGECAT"][QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

please enlighten us with pictures of a full turbine engine sitting inside the pentagon. I would love to see one.

mig_killer2

the above picture is part of the landing gear,

and this is part of the jet engine

Okay not so sure about the first one, but the second ones source is never known, so we don't know if it's authentic or not.

So you admit the first one is legit. I didn't know missles had landing gears!

Where are the other2 rims from the plane?

rims?

Referring to the first pic.

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#244 CaptHawkeye
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listen, i understand that the landing gear was inside the aircraft that the time it hit. All i'm wondering is WTF is with the 12 foot hole in the wall at the other end of the middle of the building; It doesn't make any sense. chrisrooR

It makes perfect sense to anyone with a brain stem. The Pentagon is a structure designed to withstand high level bombing raids. The uniform damage it sustained from the crashing plane is consistent with what it was expected to do. Minimizing the damage to a small region in the wall to prevent total collapse. This isn't hard.

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#245 Dutch_Mix
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[QUOTE="chrisrooR"][QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="chrisrooR"][QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="chrisrooR"][QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="chrisrooR"][QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="chrisrooR"][QUOTE="OregonTrailing"][QUOTE="AHUGECAT"][QUOTE="OregonTrailing"]

[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

mig_killer2

actually...it kind of does resemble a missle. :|


the landing gear is the strongest part of an airplane.

second, a cruise missile cannot possibly punch through 3 interior walls

I'd also like to add this.

If it were a cruise missile, where the blazes did all the plane debris come from? Was it inside the missile? :P

Edit: Reduced quote tunneling.

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#246 elblanquito_81
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Are some of you actually serious? I've read the posts from AHUGECAT and GarchomPro saying it wasn't a plane but a missile? Haven't you ever seen a missile impact?A missile isnot going to cause a SMALL section of the Pentagon to COLLAPSE, it's going to take out the whole damnsection where it hits and leave nothing but a hole all the way through. There won't be a facade left standing, much less the floors that pancaked. All you would've seen is a huge crater full of debris.
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#247 inyourface_12
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i cant belive people actually believe that a plane didnt hit the pentagon. i suppose a missile also hit the twin towers and what everyone saw as a plane wasnt really a plane:|
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#248 AHUGECAT
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Are some of you actually serious? I've read the posts from AHUGECAT and GarchomPro saying it wasn't a plane but a missile? Haven't you ever seen a missile impact?A missile isnot going to cause a SMALL section of the Pentagon to COLLAPSE, it's going to take out the whole damnsection where it hits and leave nothing but a hole all the way through. There won't be a facade left standing, much less the floors that pancaked. All you would've seen is a huge crater full of debris. elblanquito_81

But other explosives can... and btw a plane that was able to take down 2 110 story buildings can't even cook furniture or computers?

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#249 deactivated-583e5f64e0a7e
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i cant belive people actually believe that a plane didnt hit the pentagon. i suppose a missile also hit the twin towers and what everyone saw as a plane wasnt really a plane:|inyourface_12

Chris Angel secretly works for the government.

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#250 Tylendal
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EVERYONE STOP ARGUING ABOUT WHETHER THIS HAPPENED OR NOT. THIS IS NOT WHAT THIS TOPIC IS FOR. NO MATTER WHAT CAUSED THIS, THERE WAS MASSIVE LOSS OF LIFE, AND AND IMMENSE DAMAGE EITHER WAY.

Stop arguing about what happened, because people died irregardless. I want everyone who reads this post to do what I'm going to do, and take a few seconds to think about what happened that day.