The Vaccine Hoax is Over

[QUOTE="bnarmz"]Vaccines were not important for me (and others I know). I never had them and I'm as healthy as day one. Ill rather take my chances with someone sneezing in my face than having the germ injected with other known dangerous ingredients such as Mercury, Thimerosal, Aluminum, ethylene glycol, formaldehyde, streptomycin, and Gelatin from pigs. I never ate pork a day in my life so my folks werent going to let some stranger inject that and other crap into my body. WhiteKnight77

If you are from the States, there is no way you could not have been vaccinated. In order to attend schools, your parents have to prove that you have been vaccinated against childhood diseases before you could ever be enrolled in school. Now, you may not remember them and that is entirely possible, but you have had them whether you like them or not. Now as an adult, you do not necessarily have to have boosters (tetanus is one you should have as an adult), but that is up to you.

I do not know if countries other than the US require said vaccines, but I am sure Europe remembers plenty of disease and sickness to want people vaccinated against said diseases.

[QUOTE="WhiteKnight77"]

[QUOTE="bnarmz"]Vaccines were not important for me (and others I know). I never had them and I'm as healthy as day one. Ill rather take my chances with someone sneezing in my face than having the germ injected with other known dangerous ingredients such as Mercury, Thimerosal, Aluminum, ethylene glycol, formaldehyde, streptomycin, and Gelatin from pigs. I never ate pork a day in my life so my folks werent going to let some stranger inject that and other crap into my body. bnarmz

If you are from the States, there is no way you could not have been vaccinated. In order to attend schools, your parents have to prove that you have been vaccinated against childhood diseases before you could ever be enrolled in school. Now, you may not remember them and that is entirely possible, but you have had them whether you like them or not. Now as an adult, you do not necessarily have to have boosters (tetanus is one you should have as an adult), but that is up to you.

I do not know if countries other than the US require said vaccines, but I am sure Europe remembers plenty of disease and sickness to want people vaccinated against said diseases.

Heresay and anecdotes. This is not the way to win an argument.

For bnarmz:

http://www.aap.org/en-us/advocacy-and-policy/Documents/vaccinestudies.pdf

If you don't want to believe the American Academy of Pediatrics, I can't help you.

[QUOTE="bnarmz"][QUOTE="WhiteKnight77"]

If you are from the States, there is no way you could not have been vaccinated. In order to attend schools, your parents have to prove that you have been vaccinated against childhood diseases before you could ever be enrolled in school. Now, you may not remember them and that is entirely possible, but you have had them whether you like them or not. Now as an adult, you do not necessarily have to have boosters (tetanus is one you should have as an adult), but that is up to you.

I do not know if countries other than the US require said vaccines, but I am sure Europe remembers plenty of disease and sickness to want people vaccinated against said diseases.

Heresay and anecdotes. This is not the way to win an argument.

trust me, I know where you're getting at, but this vaccine thing is just not for everyone, some people avoid them all together because they are allergic to some of the ingrediants. I'm not worried about Polio or any other virus. I do not wish to have strangers injecting me when I can handle a virus without it. I highly doubt a healthy unvaccinated person will put a vaccinated person at risk. If you are already inoculated you should have little to no worries, right? As for me, I have no worries either way. My body has always fought of viruses effectively, never needed big pharmas assistance. I didn't know people actually thought they needed them. hmmm, Im starting to feel very blessed, but I like to think my peeps knew what they were doing when they decided against them. No problems, yet. and I don't expect to have any. bnarmz

It's called herd immunity -- your troglodyte ass is at a significantly decreased risk of disease because the vast majority of people who you interact with have been vaccinated, reducing your number of possible infection vectors. It's not that you have some magical immune system (you're not some superhuman just because you've only had, like, one cold in the past four years), rather it's precisely because of big pharma's (indirect) assistance and sheer dumb luck. If you don't believe this, I urge you to take a vacation to rural India and test your theory out.

It's also the reason why vaccination is so important. As you said, there are people who cannot be vaccinated due to allergies or other health concerns, so their only form of protection is herd immunity. So every time some mouth-breather says "I don't believe in vaccination" they weaken herd immunity, and as more mouth breathers decide against vaccinating themselves/their kids herd immunity eventually breaks down altogether.

So not only are you not helping yourself by not being vaccinated, you're actively putting others at greater risk. Maybe time to stop worrying your pretty little head and leave the science to the big boys, huh?

[QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]

[QUOTE="bnarmz"] sorry to burst your bubble but I'am from the states and had been successfully exonerated from them. I went to both public and private school. My folks were in court over the issue and won hands down (thats what they told me). Today, more people are looking into going the route. Anything is possible. No one can make you put something into your own body. bnarmz

Heresay and anecdotes. This is not the way to win an argument.

I'm sure you're in good shape, but statistics say that I'm far less likely to be sick than you, based on the vaccinations I've had.

Except, I'm not here to argue or win one, just stated my truth. If you don't believe me, cool. I know what I've been through and currently going through. I'm as good as can be. This discussion can only inform me on how some other people think, it's not going to make me loose sleep or feel sick. bnarmz

I thought you were Noble but you are just Bnarmz

[QUOTE="bnarmz"]trust me, I know where you're getting at, but this vaccine thing is just not for everyone, some people avoid them all together because they are allergic to some of the ingrediants. I'm not worried about Polio or any other virus. I do not wish to have strangers injecting me when I can handle a virus without it. I highly doubt a healthy unvaccinated person will put a vaccinated person at risk. If you are already inoculated you should have little to no worries, right? As for me, I have no worries either way. My body has always fought of viruses effectively, never needed big pharmas assistance. I didn't know people actually thought they needed them. hmmm, Im starting to feel very blessed, but I like to think my peeps knew what they were doing when they decided against them. No problems, yet. and I don't expect to have any. Slow_Show

It's called herd immunity -- your troglodyte ass is at a significantly decreased risk of disease because the vast majority of people who you interact with have been vaccinated, reducing your number of possible infection vectors. It's not that you have some magical immune system (you're not some superhuman just because you've only had, like, one cold in the past four years), rather it's precisely because of big pharma's (indirect) assistance and sheer dumb luck.

It's also the reason why vaccination is so important. As you said, there are people who cannot be vaccinated due to allergies or other health concerns, so their only form of protection is herd immunity. So every time some mouth-breather says "I don't believe in vaccination" they weaken herd immunity, and as more mouth breathers decide against vaccinating themselves/their kids herd immunity eventually breaks down altogether.

So not only are you not helping yourself by not being vaccinated, you're actively putting others at greater risk. Maybe time to stop worrying your pretty little head and leave the science to the big boys, huh?

tenaka2

[QUOTE="bnarmz"][QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]

Heresay and anecdotes. This is not the way to win an argument.

I'm sure you're in good shape, but statistics say that I'm far less likely to be sick than you, based on the vaccinations I've had.

lol.. poor cat...superclocked

[QUOTE="bnarmz"]

Except, I'm not here to argue or win one, just stated my truth. If you don't believe me, cool. I know what I've been through and currently going through. I'm as good as can be. This discussion can only inform me on how some other people think, it's not going to make me loose sleep or feel sick.

I thought you were Noble but you are just Bnarmz

You should become the new KC ,bnarmzdave123321

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"][QUOTE="bnarmz"]Vaccines were not important for me (and others I know). I never had them and I'm as healthy as day one. Ill rather take my chances with someone sneezing in my face than having the germ injected with other known dangerous ingredients such as Mercury, Thimerosal, Aluminum, ethylene glycol, formaldehyde, streptomycin, and Gelatin from pigs. I never ate pork a day in my life so my folks werent going to let some stranger inject that and other crap into my body. LostProphetFLCL

We are already dealing with a pertusis resurgence thanks to this moronic anti-vaccination movement, which fun fact was started decades ago by some scientist who tried saying that his research proved a link between a certain vaccine and autism. Thing is, his studies turned out to all be BS in which he forced the results he wanted, and funny thing the guy also had put out a patent for a NEW version of the same vaccine prior to his findings...

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

[QUOTE="bnarmz"]

Except, I'm not here to argue or win one, just stated my truth. If you don't believe me, cool. I know what I've been through and currently going through. I'm as good as can be. This discussion can only inform me on how some other people think, it's not going to make me loose sleep or feel sick. bnarmz

I thought you were Noble but you are just Bnarmz

Given your posts Im not surprised you have never heard of Barnes and Noble.

[QUOTE="bnarmz"][QUOTE="tenaka2"]

I thought you were Noble but you are just Bnarmz

tenaka2

Given your posts Im not surprised you have never heard of Barnes and Noble.

I'm genuinely curious as to what vaccine hoaxers think happened to polio, smallpox, measles, mumps, leprosy and the many other diseases that have all but disappeared from first world countries. Did they all just pack up and go on vacation?

Did they all just pack up and go on vacation?

metroidfood

Ha.

Oh, man.

There's a joke to be made here.

I just showed this thread to my critical thinking and logic professor. He fell of his chair

I'm genuinely curious as to what vaccine hoaxers think happened to polio, smallpox, measles, mumps, leprosy and the many other diseases that have all but disappeared from first world countries. Did they all just pack up and go on vacation?

metroidfood

They went on vaccination.

I just showed this thread to my critical thinking and logic professor. He fell of his chair

wis3boi

Was he overwhelmed by the sheer facts that bnarmz and OP spewed out?

So wow, more conspiracy theorists. I'm not sure if this is a troll thread (probably), but there's enough overwhelming proof about the positive effects of vaccines that anyone who thinks they "cause autism" or "control your body" or whatever are making the world an increasingly sad and unintelligent place.

[QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]

[QUOTE="bnarmz"] Except, I'm not here to argue or win one, just stated my truth. If you don't believe me, cool. I know what I've been through and currently going through. I'm as good as can be. This discussion can only inform me on how some other people think, it's not going to make me loose sleep or feel sick. bnarmz

I'm sure you're in good shape, but statistics say that I'm far less likely to be sick than you, based on the vaccinations I've had.

You're health has been good out of diet, exercise and luck, no doubt. But that doesn't no preclude you coming into contact with someone who might infect you. You have no protection from certain diseases that can fight through a strong immune system.

I would stay away from large populations and public restrooms if I were you.

[QUOTE="wis3boi"]

I just showed this thread to my critical thinking and logic professor. He fell of his chair

Necrifer

Was he overwhelmed by the sheer facts that bnarmz and OP spewed out?

So much so he is rethinking his entire career :P

[QUOTE="weedfacekilla"]

Lol just read the top part, i know it's hard for the masses to believe the government lies to them. well it's hard enough for the masses to even think for themselves.tenaka2

You need to see a professional.

so true, what a bs thread:lol:

Vaccines are proven to work. Are they needed for all people? No. But do they work? Of course.

Vaccines are proven to work. Are they needed for all people? No. But do they work? Of course.

kingkong0124

*agrees with kk after he makes a logical statement*

*looks outside, brimstone falling*

:P

just some food for thought, there has been plenty of reports lately about ADD/ Autism being linked to vaccines? I'm sure people are not just born this way, and there are just too many recent reports. Be careful not to just rely on your controled learning Institution to school you, don't limit yourself in this way. The info is out there, this is the infomation age, dig in. bnarmz

Do you trust the media or scientific information? There have be NO scientific studies linking autism to vaccines. None. The only small study from years ago was retracted.

Go back and look at the PDF I link from the AAP.

[QUOTE="kingkong0124"]

Vaccines are proven to work. Are they needed for all people? No. But do they work? Of course.

jimkabrhel

*agrees with kk after he makes a logical statement*

*looks outside, brimstone falling*

:P

:lol:

[QUOTE="bnarmz"]just some food for thought, there has been plenty of reports lately about ADD/ Autism being linked to vaccines? I'm sure people are not just born this way, and there are just too many recent reports. Be careful not to just rely on your controled learning Institution to school you, don't limit yourself in this way. The info is out there, this is the infomation age, dig in. jimkabrhel

Do you trust the media or scientific information? There have be NO scientific studies linking autism to vaccines. None. The only small study from years ago was retracted.

Go back and look at the PDF I link from the AAP.

science is evil, didn't you know?

[QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]

[QUOTE="bnarmz"]just some food for thought, there has been plenty of reports lately about ADD/ Autism being linked to vaccines? I'm sure people are not just born this way, and there are just too many recent reports. Be careful not to just rely on your controled learning Institution to school you, don't limit yourself in this way. The info is out there, this is the infomation age, dig in. tenaka2

Do you trust the media or scientific information? There have be NO scientific studies linking autism to vaccines. None. The only small study from years ago was retracted.

Go back and look at the PDF I link from the AAP.

science is evil, didn't you know?

Which makes me evil, as a scientist, and teacher of science. I'm spreading the word of evil.

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

[QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]

Do you trust the media or scientific information? There have be NO scientific studies linking autism to vaccines. None. The only small study from years ago was retracted.

Go back and look at the PDF I link from the AAP.

jimkabrhel

science is evil, didn't you know?

Which makes me evil, as a scientist, and teacher of science. I'm spreading the word of evil.

Burn the witch! :D

[QUOTE="kingkong0124"]

Vaccines are proven to work. Are they needed for all people? No. But do they work? Of course.

jimkabrhel

*agrees with kk after he makes a logical statement*

*looks outside, brimstone falling*

:P

lol ok >_>

[QUOTE="bnarmz"]just some food for thought, there has been plenty of reports lately about ADD/ Autism being linked to vaccines? I'm sure people are not just born this way, and there are just too many recent reports. Be careful not to just rely on your controled learning Institution to school you, don't limit yourself in this way. The info is out there, this is the infomation age, dig in. jimkabrhel

Do you trust the media or scientific information? There have be NO scientific studies linking autism to vaccines. None. The only small study from years ago was retracted.

Go back and look at the PDF I link from the AAP.

[QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]

[QUOTE="bnarmz"]just some food for thought, there has been plenty of reports lately about ADD/ Autism being linked to vaccines? I'm sure people are not just born this way, and there are just too many recent reports. Be careful not to just rely on your controled learning Institution to school you, don't limit yourself in this way. The info is out there, this is the infomation age, dig in. bnarmz

Do you trust the media or scientific information? There have be NO scientific studies linking autism to vaccines. None. The only small study from years ago was retracted.

Go back and look at the PDF I link from the AAP.

you have to be the worst user of logic I've ever seen

[QUOTE="dave123321"]You should become the new KC ,bnarmzbnarmz

[QUOTE="bnarmz"][QUOTE="dave123321"]You should become the new KC ,bnarmzdave123321

"left"

[QUOTE="bnarmz"][QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]

Do you trust the media or scientific information? There have be NO scientific studies linking autism to vaccines. None. The only small study from years ago was retracted.

Go back and look at the PDF I link from the AAP.

wis3boi

you have to be the worst user of logic I've ever seen

[QUOTE="wis3boi"]

[QUOTE="bnarmz"] There is some scientifc studies on it and I'm sure you can find some of it on the net. The piece I saw about this was recently on the evening news.. I only trust what I can prove, because the government and many things affiliated with it is all about controlling you(the populace). Do are to do what they say! I laugh at them because many times I've seen their lies, exposed them to a degree, and have my very own experiences in truth. Sorry to say but the study about vaccines, autism and ADD is still on going. bnarmz

you have to be the worst user of logic I've ever seen

I cannot reason someone out of a position they didnt reason themselve into, so it's about as useful as nailing jello to a wall. I've already talked with other users in the thread abotu why you fail at this thread, so go back and read those instead.

[QUOTE="dave123321"][QUOTE="bnarmz"] Sorry, but I don't know what ya saying or who KC is?wis3boi

"left"

[QUOTE="bnarmz"][QUOTE="dave123321"]You should become the new KC ,bnarmzdave123321

[QUOTE="dave123321"][QUOTE="bnarmz"] Sorry, but I don't know what ya saying or who KC is?bnarmz

[QUOTE="dave123321"][QUOTE="bnarmz"] Sorry, but I don't know what ya saying or who KC is?bnarmz

[QUOTE="dave123321"][QUOTE="bnarmz"] Sorry, but I don't know what ya saying or who KC is?bnarmz

Says the guy who believes some studies on the internet from sites that probably have no credibility. Well? What are these sites that prove that vaccines lead to autism and other difficulties? Present them.

[QUOTE="bnarmz"][QUOTE="dave123321"] He was a user who often chose his own beliefs over scientific evidence to the contrary. Was very steadfast and made off leaps of logic.Also used evidence that supported the claim he was fighting as evidence against the claim. The idiots of GS thought we needed to be rid of him so they made a bet with him, and he lost and left.harashawn