The Vaccine Hoax is Over

I swear to god, libertarians on OT are getting stupider and stupider. Just when you thought it couldn't go lower than Hokie.chessmaster1989

[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]I swear to god, libertarians on OT are getting stupider and stupider. Just when you thought it couldn't go lower than Hokie.DroidPhysX

[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"][QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]I swear to god, libertarians on OT are getting stupider and stupider. Just when you thought it couldn't go lower than Hokie.chessmaster1989

He comes and goes.

[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"][QUOTE="DroidPhysX"] The wheels of the OT libertarians are really coming off after the exits of Hokie and vuurk.jimkabrhel

He comes and goes.

[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"][QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]I swear to god, libertarians on OT are getting stupider and stupider. Just when you thought it couldn't go lower than Hokie.chessmaster1989

[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"][QUOTE="DroidPhysX"] The wheels of the OT libertarians are really coming off after the exits of Hokie and vuurk.DroidPhysX

Wasn't that like, every thread he posted in?

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[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"] Did Vuurk leave?jimkabrhel

Wasn't that like, every thread he posted in?

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[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"] Did Vuurk leave?jimkabrhel

Wasn't that like, every thread he posted in?

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[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"] tl;dr Got pissed that people didn't agree with him, called them drones.

chessmaster1989

Wasn't that like, every thread he posted in?

Too much effort put into the OP for TC to be a troll, so I'll reply: the statistical evidence of diminishing disease incidence as propper vaccination is performed is too overwhelming to be ignored/tied to government policy. Cause x Effect is still one of the most reliable ways to prove something in the realm of science, medicine specially :).

[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"][QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]

Wasn't that like, every thread he posted in?

-RocBoys9489-

[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"][QUOTE="-RocBoys9489-"] You shouldn't associate libertarians w/ people like them honestly, they're giving us a bad name here, but then again this place is so damn liberal it's ridiculous.-RocBoys9489-

Look at india for instance, it's got like 25 parties, and it's chaotic.

Also, serious question. What is it with libertarians and conspiracy theories? Does libertarians attract the same group that watches ancient aliens and believes the moon landing was false?

[QUOTE="-RocBoys9489-"][QUOTE="chessmaster1989"] I don't, I associate him with Internet libertarians, a remarkably ignorant subclass of libertarians. There are certainly smart libertarians (and I personally am something like a moderate libertarian).MakeMeaSammitch

Look at india for instance, it's got like 25 parties, and it's chaotic.

[QUOTE="-RocBoys9489-"][QUOTE="chessmaster1989"] I don't, I associate him with Internet libertarians, a remarkably ignorant subclass of libertarians. There are certainly smart libertarians (and I personally am something like a moderate libertarian).MakeMeaSammitch

Look at india for instance, it's got like 25 parties, and it's chaotic.

Also, serious question. What is it with libertarians and conspiracy theories? Does libertarians attract the same group that watches ancient aliens and believes the moon landing was false?

[QUOTE="MakeMeaSammitch"]

[QUOTE="-RocBoys9489-"] Honestly, there are probably more libertarians than dems or repubs when people look at all their beliefs, but the 2 party system continues to run this country. I was sad to see Gary Johnson not get 5%, imagine if the 12 million who didn't vote this year knew about him, but he had no publicity at all. My friends had no idea who he was on election day lol, then I tell them about him and they get suckered in :P-RocBoys9489-

Look at india for instance, it's got like 25 parties, and it's chaotic.

Also, serious question. What is it with libertarians and conspiracy theories? Does libertarians attract the same group that watches ancient aliens and believes the moon landing was false?

The 9/11 thing I mean.

chemtrails are real,,,-RocBoys9489-

If chemtrails were real, do you not think we all would be dead by now since they only first started showing up during WWII? Plenty of time for the chemicals to wipe out life on the Earth if such was the case.

[QUOTE="MakeMeaSammitch"]

[QUOTE="-RocBoys9489-"] Honestly, there are probably more libertarians than dems or repubs when people look at all their beliefs, but the 2 party system continues to run this country. I was sad to see Gary Johnson not get 5%, imagine if the 12 million who didn't vote this year knew about him, but he had no publicity at all. My friends had no idea who he was on election day lol, then I tell them about him and they get suckered in :P-RocBoys9489-

Look at india for instance, it's got like 25 parties, and it's chaotic.

There's been fist fights, even in britain it get's pretty funny with name calling, threats and screaming.

What's the worst we've ever seen in the U.S.? My moneys on Al Gore's walking over to bush during the debates.

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"][QUOTE="bnarmz"]Vaccines were not important for me (and others I know). I never had them and I'm as healthy as day one. Ill rather take my chances with someone sneezing in my face than having the germ injected with other known dangerous ingredients such as Mercury, Thimerosal, Aluminum, ethylene glycol, formaldehyde, streptomycin, and Gelatin from pigs. I never ate pork a day in my life so my folks werent going to let some stranger inject that and other crap into my body. bnarmz

Dem vaccines got powerful skills

[QUOTE="-RocBoys9489-"][QUOTE="MakeMeaSammitch"]It's a known fact that the more political parties there are, the more extreme views tend to get. A two party system tends to decrease extremism because it pushes everybody towards the middle.

Look at india for instance, it's got like 25 parties, and it's chaotic.

Also, serious question. What is it with libertarians and conspiracy theories? Does libertarians attract the same group that watches ancient aliens and believes the moon landing was false?

MakeMeaSammitch

The 9/11 thing I mean.

[QUOTE="-RocBoys9489-"]chemtrails are real,,,WhiteKnight77

If chemtrails were real, do you not think we all would be dead by now since they only first started showing up during WWII? Plenty of time for the chemicals to wipe out life on the Earth if such was the case.

[QUOTE="bnarmz"]how, is it idiocy? I'm living proof that it isn't needed. Vaccines are known to make people sick before they even take them, that's idiocy if you ask me. chaoscougar1

Dem vaccines got powerful skills

I guess those vaccines have magical powers that allow them to moved from a sealed container and into the atmosphere so they can infect everyone. If that is the case, why can't we teleport ourselves if scientists have perfected it for liquids?

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[QUOTE="-RocBoys9489-"]chemtrails are real,,,-RocBoys9489-

If chemtrails were real, do you not think we all would be dead by now since they only first started showing up during WWII? Plenty of time for the chemicals to wipe out life on the Earth if such was the case.

How so? You do not seperate anthing in that sentence I took that from. You state chemtrails are real though you do not believe the moon landing was fake.

[QUOTE="-RocBoys9489-"][QUOTE="MakeMeaSammitch"]It's a known fact that the more political parties there are, the more extreme views tend to get. A two party system tends to decrease extremism because it pushes everybody towards the middle.

Look at india for instance, it's got like 25 parties, and it's chaotic.

MakeMeaSammitch

There's been fist fights, even in britain it get's pretty funny with name calling, threats and screaming.

What's the worst we've ever seen in the U.S.? My moneys on Al Gore's walking over to bush during the debates.

[QUOTE="-RocBoys9489-"][QUOTE="WhiteKnight77"]

If chemtrails were real, do you not think we all would be dead by now since they only first started showing up during WWII? Plenty of time for the chemicals to wipe out life on the Earth if such was the case.

WhiteKnight77

How so? You do not seperate anthing in that sentence I took that from. You state chemtrails are real though you do not believe the moon landing was fake.

[QUOTE="WhiteKnight77"]

How so? You do not seperate anthing in that sentence I took that from. You state chemtrails are real though you do not believe the moon landing was fake.

-RocBoys9489-

I am half asleep, you could be right and I misunderstood what you are saying. It just sickens me how stupid people are when it comes to something like that for the reasons why I posted. If some secret entity were spreading chemicals via airplanes at high altitude, nothing would be alive today and this forum would not exist. Once I explained what was really happening to someone who once believed such tripe, he had an awakening.

Vaccines are a blight and a joke. They do more harm than good.

Vaccines are a blight and a joke. They do more harm than good.

hartsickdiscipl

I would just say look at governments with multiple parties.

There's been fist fights, even in britain it get's pretty funny with name calling, threats and screaming.

What's the worst we've ever seen in the U.S.? My moneys on Al Gore's walking over to bush during the debates.MakeMeaSammitch

Yes, that's a good argument for having more than two influential parties. Hell, I'd give a lot just to have our own version of "Questions to the Prime Minster"!

Our proceedings consist of a lot of chronically safe grandstanding. Very boring!

Vaccines are a blight and a joke. They do more harm than good.

hartsickdiscipl

You're thinking of airbags.

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Vaccines are a blight and a joke. They do more harm than good.

dave123321

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Unless you post the secret documents and they are without reproach, I'm going to trust decades of research and medical literature.

weedfacekilla

Well I dont know if vaccines are ineffective but I know this: Every year for as long as I can remember, my sister, who is a health / fitness freak gets flu vaccine for herself and her children whereas my children and I do not... And every flu season, my sister and her children each get brutally ill, multiple times over, with flu whereas myself and my children do not... go figure...67gt500

It's not just you. I've never had a flu shot, and I've very rarely gotten the flu. I never got chicken pox, and I've never had measles. This type of stuff is observable everywhere you look, if you look.

Is everyone using vaccine as a shorter way of describing the H1N1 vaccine or are there this many people actually believing that most vaccines don't work? I do agree that the flue vaccine is a joke, but pretty much everyone who had biology at high school realizes that.

Vaccines are a blight and a joke. They do more harm than good.

hartsickdiscipl

Like weedface and bnarmz, you can say this as much as you like, but there is no scientific evidence to back up the statement.

Well I dont know if vaccines are ineffective but I know this: Every year for as long as I can remember, my sister, who is a health / fitness freak gets flu vaccine for herself and her children whereas my children and I do not... And every flu season, my sister and her children each get brutally ill, multiple times over, with flu whereas myself and my children do not... go figure...67gt500

People don't take into account that vaccinations help surb the spread of disease in general, not just in the people who actually get vaccinated. That's why anecdotal evidence like this is insufficient.

Is everyone using vaccine as a shorter way of describing the H1N1 vaccine or are there this many people actually believing that most vaccines don't work? I do agree that the flue vaccine is a joke, but pretty much everyone who had biology at high school realizes that.

rastotm

Is everyone using vaccine as a shorter way of describing the H1N1 vaccine or are there this many people actually believing that most vaccines don't work? I do agree that the flue vaccine is a joke, but pretty much everyone who had biology at high school realizes that.

rastotm

Come on now

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"][QUOTE="bnarmz"]Vaccines were not important for me (and others I know). I never had them and I'm as healthy as day one. Ill rather take my chances with someone sneezing in my face than having the germ injected with other known dangerous ingredients such as Mercury, Thimerosal, Aluminum, ethylene glycol, formaldehyde, streptomycin, and Gelatin from pigs. I never ate pork a day in my life so my folks werent going to let some stranger inject that and other crap into my body. bnarmz

Vaccacines are supposed to make you a little sick in order to lure out a biological response you idiot. You're injecting (parts) of dead germs/virusses.

DrTrafalgarLaw

Well I dont know if vaccines are ineffective but I know this: Every year for as long as I can remember, my sister, who is a health / fitness freak gets flu vaccine for herself and her children whereas my children and I do not... And every flu season, my sister and her children each get brutally ill, multiple times over, with flu whereas myself and my children do not... go figure...67gt500

The flu vaccine is different from other vaccines (I can't explain how outside of the fact that flu vaccines are grown on chicken eggs, while other vaccines are made from the actual virii and bacteria of other diseases). The sera used to help build immunities are not normally strong enough to actually make someone sick compared to a full blown infection from the real virus.

[QUOTE="67gt500"]Well I dont know if vaccines are ineffective but I know this: Every year for as long as I can remember, my sister, who is a health / fitness freak gets flu vaccine for herself and her children whereas my children and I do not... And every flu season, my sister and her children each get brutally ill, multiple times over, with flu whereas myself and my children do not... go figure...WhiteKnight77

The flu vaccine is different from other vaccines (I can't explain how outside of the fact that flu vaccines are grown on chicken eggs, while other vaccines are made from the actual virii and bacteria of other diseases). The sera used to help build immunities are not normally strong enough to actually make someone sick compared to a full blown infection from the real virus.

[QUOTE="67gt500"]Well I dont know if vaccines are ineffective but I know this: Every year for as long as I can remember, my sister, who is a health / fitness freak gets flu vaccine for herself and her children whereas my children and I do not... And every flu season, my sister and her children each get brutally ill, multiple times over, with flu whereas myself and my children do not... go figure...theone86

People don't take into account that vaccinations help surb the spread of disease in general, not just in the people who actually get vaccinated. That's why anecdotal evidence like this is insufficient.

[QUOTE="DrTrafalgarLaw"]

Vaccacines are supposed to make you a little sick in order to lure out a biological response you idiot. You're injecting (parts) of dead germs/virusses.

TrainerCeleste