This is why I keep guns

[QUOTE="Andrew_Xavier"]

Guns are for weak, weak people to defend against other weak people.

The world would be better off if people had a fight one on one without weapons whenever they needed to have a fight, problem is, most people are way too weak/useless/untalented/pathetic for that to ever happen.

luamhtrad

:| Seriously? Anyway, force must be met with equal force. You don't bring fists to a sword fight and you don't bring a sword to a gun fight.

[QUOTE="br0kenrabbit"]

[QUOTE="IndigoSunrise"]

And this ladies and gentlemen and assorted furry cute woodland creaturesis why we need gun control. ;)

IndigoSunrise

Perhaps you had better take a back seat and learn the story as to why I take no chances on home invasions. Sit down and cool that ass off.

In Novemember of 1996, while I was still in college in Atlanta, I was upstairs stepping out of the shower when I heard my downstairs window shatter. The only light on in the house at this time was in the bathroom where I was.

Without getting dressed, I turned off the light and ran across the hallway to my bedroom and retrived my 9mm. I sat with my back against the door peeking around the corner and down the stairs. The only light coming in was a streetlight shining through the front door and onto the steps, very little light at all.

I heard two men talking, and then one of them came around the corner and started to come up the stairs to where I was. I took aim, as best I could in the dark, and pulled off one round.

The guy dropped something on the steps and rolled backward, screaming. He scrambled to his feet and ran back into the living room and out the window. I assume his partner was either outside the whole time or had gone out the window just as quickly.

Once I calmed down and got the lights on, I saw what he had dropped on the steps: A 16 guage double barrel, double hammer.

Just because I didn't know he was armed, doesn't mean he wasn't, because he was. These days, I don't take chances. If you break into my house, I assume you're armed and work from there.

BTW, that same guy was killed less than two weeks later when he broke into a womans apartment a few miles away: she shot him dead. And yes, he was again armed.

At autopsy they found my bullet still in him (forensics matched it), under his collar bone. The bastard didn't even go to a hospital. How crazy is that?

If you had known he had the gun PRIOR to shooting him I would agree with you however because you didn't I still say your actions were excessive.

Now I know you'll treat this as putting a criminals rights before a innocent person but the fact it isn't ethical to attack until someone attacks you. Simply intruding isn't attacking.He hadn't attacked you yet.

However what is done is done. I'm not trying to make you feel bad or anything. I don't feel too bad for the guy in fact I don't feel bad for the guy at all. (he can't feel anything now) however I'm not going to congradulate you or anything I'm sure you were fearing for your life. I may have done the same thing if I was armed. However I wouldn't think I was justified in what I did.

Don't lose any sleep over it though. What is done is done. At least you didn't kill the guy. Someone else did.

So I should have waited and see if he'd use his weapon that I didn't know he had? Why does the intruder get the upper hand? In a battle, and that's what a home invasion in s prelude to, suprise if the best weapon you have for coming out alive. I am NOT about to give that element up to the intruder.

When you're a homeowner and someone breaks into your house, you have to assume they mean the worst. You're not going to interview them to figure out their intentions, you just have to react and protect yourself.

[QUOTE="IndigoSunrise"]

[QUOTE="AFraud"]

Why exactly? To protect criminals and make it impossible for law abiding citizens to protect themselves?

I actually agree with what this guy said. Even if they are "just" there to steal, you act like that's ok.

AFraud

I'm not defending the criminal but I'm not defending the guy shooting someone for tresspassing either. IfI don't support the "right" of someone to shoot someone else for tresspassing I must love criminals victimizing homeowners? :roll:

They both belong in jail.

Why does the homeowner belong in jail? Noone has the right to my stuff. I earned it. What do you expect me to do to them? Use harsh language?

You break into someone's house to steal, you get what's coming to you, hopefully a bullet in the brain.

And no, we shouldn't model gun control on Britain or any other European country. With the exception of murder and rape, crime is actually much more rampant in Britain than in the US. You are something likesix times more likely to be mugged in London than you are in New York City.

Hold on now. I'd rather get robbed than shot or raped.

I support gun ownership and while I don't neccessarily agree with England's gun control policies I don't agree with America's unrestricted policies either. If I had to pick between the two I'd pick England's.

[QUOTE="IndigoSunrise"]

[QUOTE="br0kenrabbit"]

Perhaps you had better take a back seat and learn the story as to why I take no chances on home invasions. Sit down and cool that ass off.

In Novemember of 1996, while I was still in college in Atlanta, I was upstairs stepping out of the shower when I heard my downstairs window shatter. The only light on in the house at this time was in the bathroom where I was.

Without getting dressed, I turned off the light and ran across the hallway to my bedroom and retrived my 9mm. I sat with my back against the door peeking around the corner and down the stairs. The only light coming in was a streetlight shining through the front door and onto the steps, very little light at all.

I heard two men talking, and then one of them came around the corner and started to come up the stairs to where I was. I took aim, as best I could in the dark, and pulled off one round.

The guy dropped something on the steps and rolled backward, screaming. He scrambled to his feet and ran back into the living room and out the window. I assume his partner was either outside the whole time or had gone out the window just as quickly.

Once I calmed down and got the lights on, I saw what he had dropped on the steps: A 16 guage double barrel, double hammer.

Just because I didn't know he was armed, doesn't mean he wasn't, because he was. These days, I don't take chances. If you break into my house, I assume you're armed and work from there.

BTW, that same guy was killed less than two weeks later when he broke into a womans apartment a few miles away: she shot him dead. And yes, he was again armed.

At autopsy they found my bullet still in him (forensics matched it), under his collar bone. The bastard didn't even go to a hospital. How crazy is that?

br0kenrabbit

If you had known he had the gun PRIOR to shooting him I would agree with you however because you didn't I still say your actions were excessive.

Now I know you'll treat this as putting a criminals rights before a innocent person but the fact it isn't ethical to attack until someone attacks you. Simply intruding isn't attacking.He hadn't attacked you yet.

However what is done is done. I'm not trying to make you feel bad or anything. I don't feel too bad for the guy in fact I don't feel bad for the guy at all. (he can't feel anything now) however I'm not going to congradulate you or anything I'm sure you were fearing for your life. I may have done the same thing if I was armed. However I wouldn't think I was justified in what I did.

Don't lose any sleep over it though. What is done is done. At least you didn't kill the guy. Someone else did.

So I should have waited and see if he'd use his weapon that I didn't know he had? Why does the intruder get the upper hand? In a battle, and that's what a home invasion in s prelude to, suprise if the best weapon you have for coming out alive. I am NOT about to give that element up to the intruder.

When you're a homeowner and someone breaks into your house, you have to assume they mean the worst. You're not going to interview them to figure out their intentions, you just have to react and protect yourself.

You should have been aware he was armed and hostile yes instead of assuming he was. If you had the option of escape you should have taken it.

Look someone breaks into my house and I know they have a gun and I can't escape I'll shoot them but if I have a way out and they are stealing my HDTV I don't care. I'll be better than they are. My TV isn't worth their lives. I may hate them for stealing it but I won't kill them.

Like I said I don't really care. I don't feel too sympathetic for the guy you shot I'm just saying your not in the right here.

[QUOTE="AFraud"]

[QUOTE="IndigoSunrise"]

I'm not defending the criminal but I'm not defending the guy shooting someone for tresspassing either. IfI don't support the "right" of someone to shoot someone else for tresspassing I must love criminals victimizing homeowners? :roll:

They both belong in jail.

IndigoSunrise

Why does the homeowner belong in jail? Noone has the right to my stuff. I earned it. What do you expect me to do to them? Use harsh language?

You break into someone's house to steal, you get what's coming to you, hopefully a bullet in the brain.

And no, we shouldn't model gun control on Britain or any other European country. With the exception of murder and rape, crime is actually much more rampant in Britain than in the US. You are something likesix times more likely to be mugged in London than you are in New York City.

Hold on now. I'd rather get robbed than shot or raped.

I support gun ownership and while I don't exactly agree with England's gun control policies but I don't agree with Americas gun ownership policies either. If I had to pick between the two I'd choose England's policies.

You sound like someone who's never been robbed. I can assure you that it's horrible in its own way.

It leaves you feeling completely vulnerable and violated.

[QUOTE="br0kenrabbit"]

[QUOTE="IndigoSunrise"]

If you had known he had the gun PRIOR to shooting him I would agree with you however because you didn't I still say your actions were excessive.

Now I know you'll treat this as putting a criminals rights before a innocent person but the fact it isn't ethical to attack until someone attacks you. Simply intruding isn't attacking.He hadn't attacked you yet.

However what is done is done. I'm not trying to make you feel bad or anything. I don't feel too bad for the guy in fact I don't feel bad for the guy at all. (he can't feel anything now) however I'm not going to congradulate you or anything I'm sure you were fearing for your life. I may have done the same thing if I was armed. However I wouldn't think I was justified in what I did.

Don't lose any sleep over it though. What is done is done. At least you didn't kill the guy. Someone else did.

IndigoSunrise

So I should have waited and see if he'd use his weapon that I didn't know he had? Why does the intruder get the upper hand? In a battle, and that's what a home invasion in s prelude to, suprise if the best weapon you have for coming out alive. I am NOT about to give that element up to the intruder.

When you're a homeowner and someone breaks into your house, you have to assume they mean the worst. You're not going to interview them to figure out their intentions, you just have to react and protect yourself.

You should have been aware he was armed and hostile yes instead of assuming he was. If you had the option of escape you should have taken it.

Look someone breaks into my house and I know they have a gun and I can't escape I'll shoot them but if I have a way out and they are stealing my HDTV I don't care. I'll be better than they are. My TV isn't worth their lives. I may hate them for stealing it but I won't kill them.

Like I said I don't really care. I don't feel too sympathetic for the guy you shot I'm just saying your not in the right here.

Fortunately, the law here agrees with people like me, and not with people like you.

You take the inituative to break into my home, and I'm going to fight back with everything I have. If I kill you, I won't lose any sleep over it. I won't feel good about it, but neither will I feel bad about it. The way I see it, the intruder put himself in harms way of his own volition.

[QUOTE="IndigoSunrise"]

[QUOTE="AFraud"]

Why does the homeowner belong in jail? Noone has the right to my stuff. I earned it. What do you expect me to do to them? Use harsh language?

You break into someone's house to steal, you get what's coming to you, hopefully a bullet in the brain.

And no, we shouldn't model gun control on Britain or any other European country. With the exception of murder and rape, crime is actually much more rampant in Britain than in the US. You are something likesix times more likely to be mugged in London than you are in New York City.

AFraud

Hold on now. I'd rather get robbed than shot or raped.

I support gun ownership and while I don't exactly agree with England's gun control policies but I don't agree with Americas gun ownership policies either. If I had to pick between the two I'd choose England's policies.

You sound like someone who's never been robbed. I can assure you that it's horrible in its own way.

It leaves you feeling completely vulnerable and violated.

I have been mugged before by three people who knocked me down and stole 5 dollars from me. It feels bad trust me.

I don't own a gun, and can't ever imagine myself owning one.

However, I completely support the right to own one. If you break into someone's house and end up getting shot, you deserve it.

boo obama

yay guns!

Don't own a gun, don't need one. In fact, I don't even think anyone I know has ever had a home intruder.

After reading this thread, I was unsure if I should inject some sensibility into it, but no one will pay attention to what I have to say anyway, so I'll have a go.

The most common answer to the gun debate is that people shouldn't be allowed to possess more than one firearm. Why? It's entirely paranoid to assume that everyone is a criminal, and it goes against the values of justice, where you are innoncent until proven guilty. Sorry guys, it's not the other way around, at least not in the United States.

I don't see anything wrong with a person who has a ton of firearms in his house either. For a lot of people, collecting guns is a hobby. My dad loves to collect old WW2 rifles, should he be prevented from doing thus because criminals with guns are killing people? The logic just doesn't add up. According to these people, criminals are killing people, so let's relegate the second amendment -- lets punish the law-abiding citizens because of the actions of the unlawful. It doesn't make too much sense folks. ;)

Contrary to what the Europeans might believe, Americans are very responsible with their guns. I live in Michigan, and this is a "gun-state", and I know very few people who act insensibly with their firearms. I believe this to be true across the board.

Who are those that are committing these unlawful crimes anyway? Well, they tend to be either impoverished, prejudiced against, uneducated, or a combination of all these things. Most crimes occur in large urban districts where gun-control is full force. It's nigh impossible to own a gun in Washington D.C. or New York, yet the murder rates in these cities are incredibly high. Washington D.C. is one of the most violent areas in the country, and it boasts the most strict gun-control policy in the country.

Yet, I would say the Europeans, at least those on this board, have not a clue about what they are talking about when it comes to this issue anyway. They always cite the U.S. as being incredibly violent, yet homicides declined by 30% from 1991 to 1997 and the trend has been a downward slope ever since. Did gun-control do this? It did not.

I'll end with a quote by George Orwell:

"That rifle hanging on the wall of the working-class flat or the labourer's cottage is the symbol of democracy. It is our job to see that it stays there."

[QUOTE="luamhtrad"]

[QUOTE="Andrew_Xavier"]

Guns are for weak, weak people to defend against other weak people.

The world would be better off if people had a fight one on one without weapons whenever they needed to have a fight, problem is, most people are way too weak/useless/untalented/pathetic for that to ever happen.

Andrew_Xavier

:| Seriously? Anyway, force must be met with equal force. You don't bring fists to a sword fight and you don't bring a sword to a gun fight.

I'm sorry, but you're in no position to call anyone pathetic and weak.

[QUOTE="Andrew_Xavier"]

Guns are for weak, weak people to defend against other weak people.

The world would be better off if people had a fight one on one without weapons whenever they needed to have a fight, problem is, most people are way too weak/useless/untalented/pathetic for that to ever happen.

luamhtrad

:| Seriously? Anyway, force must be met with equal force. You don't bring fists to a sword fight and you don't bring a sword to a gun fight.

Meh, I still don't see why people need to own guns and have them in their house.

Meh, I still don't see why people need to own guns and have them in their house.

OfficialBed

But who are you to decide what others should have? If they want a gun, let them have it. If they want more than one gun, what is it to you? Most people aren't criminals you know.

I dont know if I could shoot someone unless they were life threatening to someone in my house.

Honestly, a cop told me this once.

If someone breaks into your house, and you dont need to use lethal force, beat the piss out of him, and leave him for the cops to gather up and lock up.

Meh, I still don't see why people need to own guns and have them in their house.

OfficialBed

[QUOTE="OfficialBed"]

Meh, I still don't see why people need to own guns and have them in their house.

Infinite-Zr0

I used to think exactly the same way as you on this issue however so I know where your coming from.

However even though I support heavy regulation of firearms I do belive that it won't solve the underlying cause of gun violence.

Its a complex issue that won't be solved entirely by banning guns but smart regulation and gun control can alleviate and prevent some of it. However you don't fight fire with fire. More guns won't help us. It should be as hard to get a gun as it is to get a private civilian pilots license.

Guns are the How? But they are not the Why?

I am definitly gonna buy a firearm when i get my own place.

Roxas12934

[QUOTE="luamhtrad"]Just because guns aren't legal in the UK, doesn't mean a criminal isn't going to have one... :roll:tofu-lion91

It's pretty uncommon. Some blokes (unarmed) tried to get into our garage a few years ago and mum scared them away by shouting out the window and running out in her dressing gown brandishing an umbrella. If it was America she'd have shot them. And got away with it o_O

Do you not see what's ****ed up about that? :?

[QUOTE="tofu-lion91"]

[QUOTE="luamhtrad"]Just because guns aren't legal in the UK, doesn't mean a criminal isn't going to have one... :roll:freham2001

It's pretty uncommon. Some blokes (unarmed) tried to get into our garage a few years ago and mum scared them away by shouting out the window and running out in her dressing gown brandishing an umbrella. If it was America she'd have shot them. And got away with it o_O

Do you not see what's ****ed up about that? :?

Nope. Just her mom.

[QUOTE="OfficialBed"]

Meh, I still don't see why people need to own guns and have them in their house.

VoodooGamer

But who are you to decide what others should have? If they want a gun, let them have it. If they want more than one gun, what is it to you? Most people aren't criminals you know.

I never said they shouldn't have what they want, I said I don't see why people need to own guns and have them in their house. They can have whatever they want, I'm not stopping them. Thanks tips, I definitely thought most people were criminals, thankfully you cleared that up for me.

[QUOTE="OfficialBed"]

Meh, I still don't see why people need to own guns and have them in their house.

Infinite-Zr0

Oh really? You know how I think? That's amazing, please tell me how you do it. So since I don't agree with your thoughts, I'm not looking at the situation with an open mind? Grow up.

[QUOTE="freham2001"][QUOTE="tofu-lion91"]

It's pretty uncommon. Some blokes (unarmed) tried to get into our garage a few years ago and mum scared them away by shouting out the window and running out in her dressing gown brandishing an umbrella. If it was America she'd have shot them. And got away with it o_O

Do you not see what's ****ed up about that? :?

IndigoSunrise

Nope. Just her mom.

Heh. :P

Really all I've noticed this argument turn into is that Americans are ignorant, gun-happy-cant-wait-to-kill-someone fools. Yall are assuming that just because we have a gun in our house means that if someone just so much as walks in we are going to shoot them in the head and be HAPPY about it. No! We probably wont even use the gun unless they are seriously about to kill US. Which probably ANYONE would do if they had a gun and some maniac was cornering you in your own house trying to kill you. Unless you want to tell me that "guns arent the answer" and you would much rather just sit back and let him kill you.

Please try to find other ways to argue WITHOUT using stereotypes. They are insufficient and tend to nullify any valid points that you might actually have.

[QUOTE="VoodooGamer"]

[QUOTE="OfficialBed"]

Meh, I still don't see why people need to own guns and have them in their house.

OfficialBed

But who are you to decide what others should have? If they want a gun, let them have it. If they want more than one gun, what is it to you? Most people aren't criminals you know.

I never said they shouldn't have what they want, I said I don't see why people needs to own guns and have them in their house. They can have whatever they want, I'm not stopping them. Thanks tips, I definitely thought most people were criminals, thankfully you cleared that up for me.

[QUOTE="OfficialBed"]

[QUOTE="VoodooGamer"]

But who are you to decide what others should have? If they want a gun, let them have it. If they want more than one gun, what is it to you? Most people aren't criminals you know.

Infinite-Zr0

I never said they shouldn't have what they want, I said I don't see why people needs to own guns and have them in their house. They can have whatever they want, I'm not stopping them. Thanks tips, I definitely thought most people were criminals, thankfully you cleared that up for me.

Same as you said. Good for you. Do whatever you want.

I think i would have done the same in TC's position, i would have waited a little longer to fire until he advanced on me once he was in my home, but none the less, i probably would have fired on him if he broke into my house. I don't think it should be so easy to obtain guns in america, but i say if someone invades your home, they have a harmful intent, and/or they're armed or could potentially cause harm to your family, i say you have every right to defend yourself with a gun. I would rather have it, that guns aren't easily obtainable, and people weren't so careless with them, but if someone breaks into my house, threatens my family, or is armed with a dangerous weapon, they're gonna meet the end of a 12-gauge or pistol.

[QUOTE="Infinite-Zr0"][QUOTE="OfficialBed"]

I never said they shouldn't have what they want, I said I don't see why people needs to own guns and have them in their house. They can have whatever they want, I'm not stopping them. Thanks tips, I definitely thought most people were criminals, thankfully you cleared that up for me.

OfficialBed

Same as you said. Good for you.

[QUOTE="OfficialBed"]

[QUOTE="Infinite-Zr0"] Good for you. I'll be damned if I let an intruder have his way inside my home where I have friends and family with me.Infinite-Zr0

Same as you said. Good for you.

Thanks, I'll let them know. We don't seem to have the same problems where I live. I don't needs guns in my house.

[QUOTE="Infinite-Zr0"][QUOTE="OfficialBed"]

Same as you said. Good for you.

OfficialBed

Thanks, I'll let them know. We don't seem to have the same problems where I live. I don't needs guns in my house.

[QUOTE="OfficialBed"]

[QUOTE="Infinite-Zr0"] And sorry for your friends and family who'll be put in danger.Infinite-Zr0

Thanks, I'll let them know. We don't seem to have the same problems where I live. I don't needs guns in my house.

That stuff doesn't happen where I live.

[QUOTE="Infinite-Zr0"][QUOTE="OfficialBed"]

Thanks, I'll let them know. We don't seem to have the same problems where I live. I don't needs guns in my house.

OfficialBed

That stuff doesn't happen where I live.

[QUOTE="OfficialBed"]

[QUOTE="Infinite-Zr0"] As the old saying goes. I'd rather be caught with it, than be caught without it. God help you if a maniac bashes down your door with a machete, or worse his own gun. I live in an upper middle class neighbor hood, too. And there was a bank robbery 20 minutes away, and it ended less than a mile from my house. If he broke into my house, he'd be in trouble. If he broke into someone else's they'd be in trouble.Infinite-Zr0

That stuff doesn't happen where I live.

I'm telling you, bank robberies, house robberies and such don't happen where I live. Perhaps when I get my own place somewhere else, it could happen.

[QUOTE="Infinite-Zr0"][QUOTE="OfficialBed"]

That stuff doesn't happen where I live.

OfficialBed

I'm telling you, bank robberies, house robberies and such don't happen where I live. Perhaps when I get my own place somewhere else, it could happen.

As the old saying goes. I'd rather be caught with it, than be caught without it. God help you if a maniac bashes down your door with a machete, or worse his own gun. I live in an upper middle class neighbor hood, too. And there was a bank robbery 20 minutes away, and it ended less than a mile from my house. If he broke into my house, he'd be in trouble. If he broke into someone else's they'd be in trouble.Infinite-Zr0

That stuff doesn't happen where I live.

A little off-topic, what does it feel like to shoot a guy? :|

[QUOTE="Infinite-Zr0"][QUOTE="OfficialBed"]

Meh, I still don't see why people need to own guns and have them in their house.

OfficialBed

Oh really? You know how I think? That's amazing, please tell me how you do it. So since I don't agree with your thoughts, I'm not looking at the situation with an open mind? Grow up.

Well, you're the one who seems to be getting angry. I wasn't insulting you, and I think the other guy was giving you kind advice.

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I once shot and killed an armed intruder. It happend when I was a teenager, My parents had gone overseas for a week and left me, my sister and my brother at home. Me and my brother were watching a movie when we heard the dog going nuts in the back yard. we tried several times to make him shut up but he kept onbarking. Since my parents werent in the house we decided to let him in. The dog kept running back to the patio door and barking. That freaked my brother out. so I decided Id get my dads gun from the closet. Almost an hour passed and the dog was still uneasy so we decided to forget about it took the dog out and called it a day.

Within minutes we heard the dog barking again. So I rock paper scisored my brother into going downstairs and turning on the lights to the back yard. I think he got about half way down stairs when he spotted two men in our kitchen and started shouting at the top of his lungs. I grabbed the gun and started down the hall and I could see my brother pointing to the kitchen and telling me they were in there. My sister woke up with all the commotion and started screaming whats going on!

We were stuck upstairs and couldnt really reach a phone so we were practicly trapped. I shouted I have a gun get the hell out of here. Then I heard some movement in the kitchen. We were freaked out but my brother said he saw someone in the kitchen adn my sister was also up and shouting her lungs off. I made my way downstairs and was going to see If I could open the front door and get to a neighbors house. As soon as my brother and sister made it towards me the guys ran out of the kitchen I guess they decided to stop us. thats When i shot the gun a few times towards them and we ran out of the house. We heard the dog barking and then another shot in the back yard.

When the police came to our house, they foundblood in out back yard and a piece of fabric on thefence. Afew dayslater we heard that the police arrested a man with a gunshot wound. After he was being questioned for the disappearance of one of his friends. It turns out that his "friend" was wounded in a robbery attempt bled out in a shack the next day. The guy later admited to the robbery attempt but claimed they were unarmed and that I had shot them when they were fleeing.

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***************************** The Following Story could quite possibly be a work of fiction, or loosely based on actual facts********************

I once shot and killed an armed intruder. It happend when I was a teenager, My parents had gone overseas for a week and left me, my sister and my brother at home. Me and my brother were watching a movie when we heard the dog going nuts in the back yard. we tried several times to make him shut up but he kept onbarking. Since my parents werent in the house we decided to let him in. The dog kept running back to the patio door and barking. That freaked my brother out. so I decided Id get my dads gun from the closet. Almost an hour passed and the dog was still uneasy so we decided to forget about it took the dog out and called it a day.

Within minutes we heard the dog barking again. So I rock paper scisored my brother into going downstairs and turning on the lights to the back yard. I think he got about half way down stairs when he spotted two men in our kitchen and started shouting at the top of his lungs. I grabbed the gun and started down the hall and I could see my brother pointing to the kitchen and telling me they were in there. My sister woke up with all the commotion and started screaming whats going on!

We were stuck upstairs and couldnt really reach a phone so we were practicly trapped. I shouted I have a gun get the hell out of here. Then I heard some movement in the kitchen. We were freaked out but my brother said he saw someone in the kitchen adn my sister was also up and shouting her lungs off. I made my way downstairs and was going to see If I could open the front door and get to a neighbors house. As soon as my brother and sister made it towards me the guys ran out of the kitchen I guess they decided to stop us. thats When i shot the gun a few times towards them and we ran out of the house. We heard the dog barking and then another shot in the back yard.

When the police came to our house, they foundblood in out back yard and a piece of fabric on thefence. Afew dayslater we heard that the police arrested a man with a gunshot wound. After he was being questioned for the disappearance of one of his friends. It turns out that his "friend" was wounded in a robbery attempt bled out in a shack the next day. The guy later admited to the robbery attempt but claimed they were unarmed and that I had shot them when they were fleeing.

Pythos77

I don't see anything wrong with what they did. Those were kids mind you, and it's quite too much to expect young boys to act like responsible adults. In any case, what if that guy did have a gun? You can't wager your life on that possibility -- you have to act as though the person might have a gun. That doesn't mean shoot the guy when you see him, but don't be optimistic that they might just be looking for some spoons.

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I once shot and killed an armed intruder. It happend when I was a teenager, My parents had gone overseas for a week and left me, my sister and my brother at home. Me and my brother were watching a movie when we heard the dog going nuts in the back yard. we tried several times to make him shut up but he kept onbarking. Since my parents werent in the house we decided to let him in. The dog kept running back to the patio door and barking. That freaked my brother out. so I decided Id get my dads gun from the closet. Almost an hour passed and the dog was still uneasy so we decided to forget about it took the dog out and called it a day.

Within minutes we heard the dog barking again. So I rock paper scisored my brother into going downstairs and turning on the lights to the back yard. I think he got about half way down stairs when he spotted two men in our kitchen and started shouting at the top of his lungs. I grabbed the gun and started down the hall and I could see my brother pointing to the kitchen and telling me they were in there. My sister woke up with all the commotion and started screaming whats going on!

We were stuck upstairs and couldnt really reach a phone so we were practicly trapped. I shouted I have a gun get the hell out of here. Then I heard some movement in the kitchen. We were freaked out but my brother said he saw someone in the kitchen adn my sister was also up and shouting her lungs off. I made my way downstairs and was going to see If I could open the front door and get to a neighbors house. As soon as my brother and sister made it towards me the guys ran out of the kitchen I guess they decided to stop us. thats When i shot the gun a few times towards them and we ran out of the house. We heard the dog barking and then another shot in the back yard.

When the police came to our house, they foundblood in out back yard and a piece of fabric on thefence. Afew dayslater we heard that the police arrested a man with a gunshot wound. After he was being questioned for the disappearance of one of his friends. It turns out that his "friend" was wounded in a robbery attempt bled out in a shack the next day. The guy later admited to the robbery attempt but claimed they were unarmed and that I had shot them when they were fleeing.

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***************************** The Following Story could quite possibly be a work of fiction, or loosely based on actual facts********************

I once shot and killed an armed intruder. It happend when I was a teenager, My parents had gone overseas for a week and left me, my sister and my brother at home. Me and my brother were watching a movie when we heard the dog going nuts in the back yard. we tried several times to make him shut up but he kept onbarking. Since my parents werent in the house we decided to let him in. The dog kept running back to the patio door and barking. That freaked my brother out. so I decided Id get my dads gun from the closet. Almost an hour passed and the dog was still uneasy so we decided to forget about it took the dog out and called it a day.

Within minutes we heard the dog barking again. So I rock paper scisored my brother into going downstairs and turning on the lights to the back yard. I think he got about half way down stairs when he spotted two men in our kitchen and started shouting at the top of his lungs. I grabbed the gun and started down the hall and I could see my brother pointing to the kitchen and telling me they were in there. My sister woke up with all the commotion and started screaming whats going on!

We were stuck upstairs and couldnt really reach a phone so we were practicly trapped. I shouted I have a gun get the hell out of here. Then I heard some movement in the kitchen. We were freaked out but my brother said he saw someone in the kitchen adn my sister was also up and shouting her lungs off. I made my way downstairs and was going to see If I could open the front door and get to a neighbors house. As soon as my brother and sister made it towards me the guys ran out of the kitchen I guess they decided to stop us. thats When i shot the gun a few times towards them and we ran out of the house. We heard the dog barking and then another shot in the back yard.

When the police came to our house, they foundblood in out back yard and a piece of fabric on thefence. Afew dayslater we heard that the police arrested a man with a gunshot wound. After he was being questioned for the disappearance of one of his friends. It turns out that his "friend" was wounded in a robbery attempt bled out in a shack the next day. The guy later admited to the robbery attempt but claimed they were unarmed and that I had shot them when they were fleeing.

I don't like the fact that guns are just so easy to find in america. Granted, you have the right to own one, but i decided to move, and avoid the whole thing. I did mention earlier that i would shoot a dangerous and amed intruder who presented a clear threat to me or my family, but that would be more likely to happen in our old house, where the gun currently is, it'll stay there for good, and i don't need a gun, due to moving somewhere safer, but when you're in the country, you never know.

I don't like the fact that guns are just so easy to find in america. Granted, you have the right to own one, but i decided to move, and avoid the whole thing. I did mention earlier that i would shoot a dangerous and amed intruder who presented a clear threat to me or my family, but that would be more likely to happen in our old house, where the gun currently is, it'll stay there for good, and i don't need a gun, due to moving somewhere safer, but when you're in the country, you never know.

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Ironically, most people in the country own and shoot their guns liberally. :P Well, I'm uncertain of your situation, but that's what it seems like to me. In the country, one would probably have no need of a gun. I don't know of many gangsters that go pimpin out in the corn fields.

Again the cops take too long to get there. Got damnit.