This is why I keep guns

^^I'm just not quite comfortable with guns, and the only reason for owning a gun way out in the country, is because it would take the police longer to get there than in a location in the city, and police response time is already something, so those where pretty much my reasons, but you're right, not many criminals out in the country, but still, thats why i moved.

Story, listen to the 911 call.

I've had to fire on an intruder before (I hit him but didn't kill him) and know the terror of a home invasion. This is why I want to beat people who tell ME I shouldn't have guns in MY house.

br0kenrabbit

I would have to totally agree with you.

I wasnt living in the US when this happend, We lived in an affluent neigborhood and had a big yard, the closest people wouldnt have heard us if they were inside their homes. Weeks before our home got broken into. A house in the same neigborhood got broken into and a maid and a security guard were killed, Supposedly the maid was raped. no one else was in the house at the moment but thieves in this country werent known for just breaking and entering. They would usualy do other things given the oportunity. AlthoughI didnt see them with the gun in their hands theydid seem to be going for us. as there were three other ways they could have left the house through the kitchen If they wanted to leave. besides they broke in through a side door to the kitchen wich they could have tried to go out from. If in fact they were fleeing.

At the time I didnt know that I had hit one of them and we only found the blood the next day. I didnt feel wierd about It until I heard that one of the guys had died. but then again Im pretty sure that If we wouldnt have been able to scare them off our fates would have been very different.

The way I see It I succesfully warded off an attack and protected my loved ones and home. For thatI feel no regret. Plus the person who died would have lived had he seeked medical attention. My guess is he did not for fear of getting caught.

A little off-topic, what does it feel like to shoot a guy? :|

-FlyLo-

Just like shooting a target, really.

This is why I live in a good area.

This is why I live in a "good area".

awssk8er716

Fixed. ;)

Story, listen to the 911 call.

I've had to fire on an intruder before (I hit him but didn't kill him) and know the terror of a home invasion. This is why I want to beat people who tell ME I shouldn't have guns in MY house.

br0kenrabbit

[QUOTE="br0kenrabbit"]

Story, listen to the 911 call.

I've had to fire on an intruder before (I hit him but didn't kill him) and know the terror of a home invasion. This is why I want to beat people who tell ME I shouldn't have guns in MY house.

Scianix-White

[QUOTE="Andrew_Xavier"][QUOTE="luamhtrad"]

:| Seriously? Anyway, force must be met with equal force. You don't bring fists to a sword fight and you don't bring a sword to a gun fight.

VoodooGamer

I'm sorry, but you're in no position to call anyone pathetic and weak.

[QUOTE="VoodooGamer"]

[QUOTE="Andrew_Xavier"] You didn't read what I said, I said people should only ever fight with fists, the problem is, they are too pathetic and weak to learn how, so they need pathetic weapons like guns to make up for their obvious failures.Andrew_Xavier

I'm sorry, but you're in no position to call anyone pathetic and weak.

Thomas Jefferson nor Benjamin Franklin were weak men. They were giants of men. ;)

[QUOTE="-FlyLo-"]

A little off-topic, what does it feel like to shoot a guy? :|

br0kenrabbit

Just like shooting a target, really.

This, in this thread where i have already heard many outlandish comments, is probably the most despicable thing I have read in a long time. You have absolutely no value for human life, and it is people like you who shouldn't have guns. You talk of being able to kill a person and not lose any sleep over it, and compare a human to being just a lifeless target. I have read what has happened to you in your past, but from what you have said, i would put you below some of the people described as criminals in this thread.

[QUOTE="br0kenrabbit"]

[QUOTE="-FlyLo-"]

A little off-topic, what does it feel like to shoot a guy? :|

cgi15

Just like shooting a target, really.

This, in this thread where i have already heard many outlandish comments, is probably the most despicable thing I have read in a long time. You have absolutely no value for human life, and it is people like you who shouldn't have guns. You talk of being able to kill a person and not lose any sleep over it, and compare a human to being just a lifeless target. I have read what has happened to you in your past, but from what you have said, i would put you below some of the people described as criminals in this thread.

I would call this a very odd, thoughtless post, considering that his life was in jeapardy and, if he had not shot the man, he might not even be alive to-day.

guns are not allowed in UK :(

[QUOTE="cgi15"]

[QUOTE="br0kenrabbit"]

Just like shooting a target, really.

VoodooGamer

This, in this thread where i have already heard many outlandish comments, is probably the most despicable thing I have read in a long time. You have absolutely no value for human life, and it is people like you who shouldn't have guns. You talk of being able to kill a person and not lose any sleep over it, and compare a human to being just a lifeless target. I have read what has happened to you in your past, but from what you have said, i would put you below some of the people described as criminals in this thread.

I would call this a very odd, thoughtless post, considering that his life was in jeapardy and, if he had not shot the man, he might not even be alive to-day.

When two guys are breaking into your house, you don't try to play hero and shoot them, you get out of your house and called the cops. If he had done that, then the cops could have possibly came and arrested them while they were in his place, and then they wouldn't have been able to break into the other woman's place later.

[QUOTE="VoodooGamer"]

[QUOTE="cgi15"]

This, in this thread where i have already heard many outlandish comments, is probably the most despicable thing I have read in a long time. You have absolutely no value for human life, and it is people like you who shouldn't have guns. You talk of being able to kill a person and not lose any sleep over it, and compare a human to being just a lifeless target. I have read what has happened to you in your past, but from what you have said, i would put you below some of the people described as criminals in this thread.

cgi15

I would call this a very odd, thoughtless post, considering that his life was in jeapardy and, if he had not shot the man, he might not even be alive to-day.

When two guys are breaking into your house, you don't try to play hero and shoot them, you get out of your house and called the cops. If he had done that, then the cops could have possibly came and arrested them while they were in his place, and then they wouldn't have been able to break into the other woman's place later.

Why not shoot them? They were breaking the law, and they posed a threat to his life. You say that he should leave his house and wait for the cops, but the guys might have left with some of his valuables before the cops got there.

[QUOTE="cgi15"]

[QUOTE="VoodooGamer"]

I would call this a very odd, thoughtless post, considering that his life was in jeapardy and, if he had not shot the man, he might not even be alive to-day.

VoodooGamer

When two guys are breaking into your house, you don't try to play hero and shoot them, you get out of your house and called the cops. If he had done that, then the cops could have possibly came and arrested them while they were in his place, and then they wouldn't have been able to break into the other woman's place later.

Why not shoot them? They were breaking the law, and they posed a threat to his life. You say that he should leave his house and wait for the cops, but the guys might have left with some of his valuables before the cops got there.

No physical object is more valuable than a human life, not even a criminal's life. Just let them take what they want and hope the cops come is the best decision.

This is my theory on gun ownership-

I could care less. Own as many as you want. However, it's YOUR responsibility to keep it locked up very tight. If your kid grabs it and kills himself or brings it to school I want YOU in jail for a veryyy long time.

[QUOTE="VoodooGamer"]

[QUOTE="Andrew_Xavier"] You didn't read what I said, I said people should only ever fight with fists, the problem is, they are too pathetic and weak to learn how, so they need pathetic weapons like guns to make up for their obvious failures.Andrew_Xavier

I'm sorry, but you're in no position to call anyone pathetic and weak.

Force still must be met with equal force. Just because it's a fist fight, doesn't mean it's fair. A 90 year old grandma is not going to fair well against a 20 year old meth head. Leave the cauliflower ear to GSP.

[QUOTE="VoodooGamer"]

[QUOTE="cgi15"]

When two guys are breaking into your house, you don't try to play hero and shoot them, you get out of your house and called the cops. If he had done that, then the cops could have possibly came and arrested them while they were in his place, and then they wouldn't have been able to break into the other woman's place later.

cgi15

Why not shoot them? They were breaking the law, and they posed a threat to his life. You say that he should leave his house and wait for the cops, but the guys might have left with some of his valuables before the cops got there.

No physical object is more valuable than a human life, not even a criminal's life. Just let them take what they want and hope the cops come is the best decision.

No one has a right to steal your belongings. A person that comes into your house, trespasses on your property with the intent of taking your things and harming you deserves whatever fate comes to him. His life is not worth more than the law against theft, and his life is certainly not worth more than your own.

And be honest, which would scare you more, a woman with her keys between her finger, or a woman who pulls a pistol out of her purse? I don't want to have to shoot it, but I will if necessary.Katafran

As a woman I don't even want to give a threatening person the chance to get near me because I know that my odds of winning, or even surviving a fight with a man are quite slim.Katafran

[QUOTE="cgi15"]

[QUOTE="VoodooGamer"]

Why not shoot them? They were breaking the law, and they posed a threat to his life. You say that he should leave his house and wait for the cops, but the guys might have left with some of his valuables before the cops got there.

VoodooGamer

No physical object is more valuable than a human life, not even a criminal's life. Just let them take what they want and hope the cops come is the best decision.

No one has a right to steal your belongings. A person that comes into your house, trespasses on your property with the intent of taking your things and harming you deserves whatever fate comes to him. His life is not worth more than the law against theft, and his life is certainly not worth more than your own.

[QUOTE="br0kenrabbit"]

[QUOTE="-FlyLo-"]

A little off-topic, what does it feel like to shoot a guy? :|

cgi15

Just like shooting a target, really.

This, in this thread where i have already heard many outlandish comments, is probably the most despicable thing I have read in a long time. You have absolutely no value for human life, and it is people like you who shouldn't have guns. You talk of being able to kill a person and not lose any sleep over it, and compare a human to being just a lifeless target. I have read what has happened to you in your past, but from what you have said, i would put you below some of the people described as criminals in this thread.

Ask me if I care.

When two guys are breaking into your house, you don't try to play hero and shoot them, you get out of your house and called the cops. If he had done that, then the cops could have possibly came and arrested them while they were in his place, and then they wouldn't have been able to break into the other woman's place later.

cgi15

Lack reading comprehension? Didn't read the whole thread? Don't worry, we got you covered:

[QUOTE="warbmxjohn"]

Who calls 911 before they grab the gun? Either way one scenario does not definitively end the debate. See?

br0kenrabbit

I would have but I didn't have a chance. My gun was upstairs, the phone downstairs, and the intruders came in from the downstairs. I didn't get to call until after I shot the guy.

[QUOTE="VoodooGamer"]

[QUOTE="Andrew_Xavier"] You didn't read what I said, I said people should only ever fight with fists, the problem is, they are too pathetic and weak to learn how, so they need pathetic weapons like guns to make up for their obvious failures.Andrew_Xavier

I'm sorry, but you're in no position to call anyone pathetic and weak.

guns are for morons who think human life isn't a good thingAndrew_Xavier

Some people should die. That's just unconscious knowledge.

[QUOTE="cgi15"]

Lack reading comprehension? Didn't read the whole thread? Don't worry, we got you covered:

[QUOTE="br0kenrabbit"]

[QUOTE="warbmxjohn"]

Who calls 911 before they grab the gun? Either way one scenario does not definitively end the debate. See?

br0kenrabbit

I would have but I didn't have a chance. My gun was upstairs, the phone downstairs, and the intruders came in from the downstairs. I didn't get to call until after I shot the guy.

Lack common sense? You can use the phone of a neighbor to call 911. it doesn't have to be your own phone.

Lack common sense? You can use the phone of a neighbor to call 911. it doesn't have to be your own phone.

cgi15

Common sense? Hmmm...let's see. The story clearly describes me as being upstairs (at the top of the steps). The story also clearly describes me going directly from stepping out of the shower the running acoss the hall and getting a gun.

Common sense would therefore indicate that I would have had a drop of at least from the second story from a window onto the hard pavement below, naked.

Screw that I'm shooting somebody.

[QUOTE="Katafran"]And be honest, which would scare you more, a woman with her keys between her finger, or a woman who pulls a pistol out of her purse? I don't want to have to shoot it, but I will if necessary.Andrew_Xavier

As a woman I don't even want to give a threatening person the chance to get near me because I know that my odds of winning, or even surviving a fight with a man are quite slim.Katafran

[QUOTE="br0kenrabbit"]

[QUOTE="-FlyLo-"]

A little off-topic, what does it feel like to shoot a guy? :|

cgi15

Just like shooting a target, really.

This, in this thread where i have already heard many outlandish comments, is probably the most despicable thing I have read in a long time. You have absolutely no value for human life, and it is people like you who shouldn't have guns. You talk of being able to kill a person and not lose any sleep over it, and compare a human to being just a lifeless target. I have read what has happened to you in your past, but from what you have said, i would put you below some of the people described as criminals in this thread.

The one problem I have, is when a mentally unfit person, ventures somewhere such as onto a property without realising where they are or what they're doing, you can still put a bullet between their eyes if you feel threatened. I guess I'm for the right to carry in the USA now, I mean guns are SO wide spread that there is no way to contain guns from criminals, and so the public probably should have the option to be able to defend themselves with equal force. However, I shudder when I think of some of the mix ups and killings that have happened in the past and I'm glad we don't have the right to firearms here in the UK.

I do believe that once a person breaks into your house you should have the right to kill them, if you're into that kind of thing. Personally I'd much rather cause them some kind lifelong bodily damage which doesn't kill them. Something which would make their whole life much harder and a total misery, like severing all their limbs or something like that. Why kill them when you can make them suffer for longer.

This is my theory on gun ownership-

I could care less. Own as many as you want. However, it's YOUR responsibility to keep it locked up very tight. If your kid grabs it and kills himself or brings it to school I want YOU in jail for a veryyy long time.

People keeping guns in their house? Ah... only in America! And this is why there is so many crimes in America!

If someone breaks into my house, I'll be VERY VERY violent! Beat the crap out of him and call the police.

People keeping guns in their house? Ah... only in America! And this is why there is so many crimes in America!

If someone breaks into my house, I'll be VERY VERY violent! Beat the crap out of him and call the police.

GaMeR_Willz

The good thing about the UK is that, We don't have guns and neither do 99% of criminals. Most of our criminals are just petty thieves who will just ask you for your valuable stuff using no weapon. But if you stand up to them they will most likely leave you alone. The worst I think that could possibly happen is that you get confronted by a gang of youths with a knife. And even then I doubt they would actually use it. About house breaking's In the UK, If a criminaltries to burgleyou,Just hearing your footsteps is enough to scare them away. When someone is trying to rob items from your house they generally don't want to have a violent confrontation with you (Last thing they would want) they just want to get the stuff and go as quick as possible.

As a Brit and european, I'm reading some of your guys posts and it disturbs me. Howyou can surport guns is just beyond me,No one shouldhave another persons life in thier hands even if they are trying to rob you, Just phone the cops or use a non lethal weapon insteadBut then again you guys are from a country which is rife with guns and stupid people, which can't be a good combo.

[QUOTE="GaMeR_Willz"]

People keeping guns in their house? Ah... only in America! And this is why there is so many crimes in America!

If someone breaks into my house, I'll be VERY VERY violent! Beat the crap out of him and call the police.

freham2001

No, people carry guns on streets. You, as an American, look at the gun at home and think "Why not I carry this out there" and that how all chaos starts...

The good thing about the UK is that, We don't have guns and neither do 99% of criminals. Most of our criminals are just petty thieves who will just ask you for your valuable stuff using no weapon. But if you stand up to them they will most likely leave you alone. The worst I think that could possibly happen is that you get confronted by a gang of youths with a knife. And even then I doubt they would actually use it. About house breaking's In the UK, If a criminaltries to burgleyou,Just hearing your footsteps is enough to scare them away. When someone is trying to rob items from your house they generally don't want to have a violent confrontation with you (Last thing they would want) they just want to get the stuff and go as quick as possible.

As a Brit and european, I'm reading some of your guys posts and it disturbs me. Howyou can surport guns is just beyond me,No one shouldhave another persons life in thier hands even if they are trying to rob you, Just phone the cops or use a non lethal weapon insteadBut then again you guys are from a country which is rife with guns and stupid people, which can't be a good combo.

Anthonydaking

I agree, people who post here is disturbing who are Americans who own guns at their homes which they shouldn't. I remember in Call of Duty forums, bunch of Americans posted photos of their guns - As a British, that scared me. :?

People shouldn't have guns at all unless they have a license. I doubt America will use the license, maybe they just giving them out for nothing... :? Scary stuff.

[QUOTE="freham2001"][QUOTE="GaMeR_Willz"]

People keeping guns in their house? Ah... only in America! And this is why there is so many crimes in America!

If someone breaks into my house, I'll be VERY VERY violent! Beat the crap out of him and call the police.

GaMeR_Willz

No, people carry guns on streets. You, as an American, look at the gun at home and think "Why not I carry this out there" and that how all chaos starts...

[QUOTE="GaMeR_Willz"]

[QUOTE="freham2001"] Yes, because all crimes in America take place at home :roll:freham2001

No, people carry guns on streets. You, as an American, look at the gun at home and think "Why not I carry this out there" and that how all chaos starts...

Good, it looks like your one of the good people. But there is still majority of people who is opposite from you. :(

[QUOTE="freham2001"][QUOTE="GaMeR_Willz"]

No, people carry guns on streets. You, as an American, look at the gun at home and think "Why not I carry this out there" and that how all chaos starts...

GaMeR_Willz

Good, it looks like your one of the good people. But there is still majority of people who is opposite from you. :(

That's not true at all. Also, our "liscense" to own firearms is the 2nd amendment.

[QUOTE="freham2001"][QUOTE="GaMeR_Willz"]

No, people carry guns on streets. You, as an American, look at the gun at home and think "Why not I carry this out there" and that how all chaos starts...

GaMeR_Willz

Good, it looks like your one of the good people. But there is still majority of people who is opposite from you. :(

I like the situation in the UK. You very rarely hear about gun crime, infact i live in the city with the most guncrime in the UK and ive never seen or heard someone with one. Of course it gets replaced with knives insteed but it is alot harder to stab someone than shootinging someone.

[QUOTE="freham2001"][QUOTE="GaMeR_Willz"]

No, people carry guns on streets. You, as an American, look at the gun at home and think "Why not I carry this out there" and that how all chaos starts...

GaMeR_Willz

Good, it looks like your one of the good people. But there is still majority of people who is opposite from you. :(

The good thing about the UK is that, We don't have guns and neither do 99% of criminals. Most of our criminals are just petty thieves who will just ask you for your valuable stuff using no weapon. Anthonydaking

Gun control would take most guns off the hands of criminals as well, so neither person has to worry about guns. Use a knife or a baseball bat or something.

It just seems like guns do more harm than good.

[QUOTE="cgi15"]

Lack common sense? You can use the phone of a neighbor to call 911. it doesn't have to be your own phone.

br0kenrabbit

Common sense? Hmmm...let's see. The story clearly describes me as being upstairs (at the top of the steps). The story also clearly describes me going directly from stepping out of the shower the running acoss the hall and getting a gun.

Common sense would therefore indicate that I would have had a drop of at least from the second story from a window onto the hard pavement below, naked.

Screw that I'm shooting somebody.