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#101 LegitGamer3212
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Tell me, what should be done? How can we round up 11 million people and "send" them back?

majoras_wrath

REMOVE THEM omg simple as that!!!!! Get state troopers to raid and round them up, place them in a crummy truck and ship them back like cargo. How hard is that? what do you how can we round them up?

I am more then a little bit glad that people like you don't run the world. Please vacate my country, as you seem to be wishing it to become the 4th Reich. "Rounding them up like cargo"? The jew inside me wants to reach across the screen and slap some sense into you.

i have nothing personal against illegal hispanics, people are people there's bad there's good, you can be a 10th generation white guy and be a murderer, rapist, child molester. He asked me "how do we round them up", i told him with state troopers, put them on trucks, maybe tractor trailers and give them a ride back. A plane right would be too expensive. Secure the border with electrified fence so they don't just hop back over 2 hours later. With an open border a terrorist can simply slip pass and bomb your subway or house.

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#102 Tauruslink
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[QUOTE="majoras_wrath"][QUOTE="LegitGamer3212"]

REMOVE THEM omg simple as that!!!!! Get state troopers to raid and round them up, place them in a crummy truck and ship them back like cargo. How hard is that? what do you how can we round them up?

AHUGECAT

I am more then a little bit glad that people like you don't run the world. Please vacate my country, as you seem to be wishing it to become the 4th Reich. "Rounding them up like cargo"? The jew inside me wants to reach across the screen and slap some sense into you.

Can't compare.

Jews were citizens who had their citizenship ripped away. Illegals are not citizens.

Of course you can compare. People are people.
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#103 acsam12304
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btw i think the europeans are having the same but with the middle easter

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#104 AHUGECAT
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what make me more mad is they start waving mexican or other countries flags.

im hispanic/latino ( what ever you want to use) i was all my brothers and sister and me were born here. my mom and dad both came from Guatemala yes i admit they jumped the border but they never once came here and asked for a hand out they went to work. my mom went to work down in Beverley hills and west LA cleaning houses along with my aunts and uncles living in a small house.

my dad came here and lived in the streets for a few days till he met some people that took him in and gave him a helping hand. and he went to work at restaurants cleaning dishes. till he met my mom at a church both fell in love. and yes they worked hard for there money and they paid there taxes and never once ask for government help. they did signed up for a green card by that time my older brother was born and 2 years later i was born. still they worked hard for there money that when my dad learned the pool table trade. and still paid there taxes. and a few years later both my mom and dad signed up for get US citizen ship. and still my family never took any help from the government.

well now my mom and dad are citizens my dad actually got screwed with the IRS cuz one of my dads friend said he is a "CPA accountant" my dad got called up by the IRS 4 times in a row. my dad paid the IRS what they wanted.

when tho my mom and dad back when i was little knew more of spainish the english they made sure we learned english first then spainish. i know english a lot better then spainish.

my mom and dad came here yes they jumped but worked for the money and got in line it took a few years but they did it and never once got a hand out. and i love the US and my mom and dad do to.

i hate it when people waves other country flags in these protest.

listen if you come to my country and want to be part of teh US then stop waving your stupid countrys flag. and get in line work for you money i dont give a damn what your are black, Hispanic, white, asian, green, red. if you jumped the border pay your taxes play by the book get in line. and maybe once go pay for your own food instead of US paying for your food with food stamps.

and maybe mostly all you Hispanics a lot of you makes me reget that im a Hispanic/Latino, cuz a lot of familys that brings kids here or have kids here and live bad lives . they kids ends up in gangs and we have to deal with that BS.

they should pass a law if you child is part of a gang and is caught doing a crime him and his family will automatically will be asked to prove there status here in teh US and if they jumped the broader then send his little gangster @$$ and his family out of here for punishment.

if you want to live in the US wave teh US flag to show that you want to be here, not some other countrys flag. and get in line and pay your dues and fees to be part of the U.S.

acsam12304

in the same time we have to remember hispanics arent the only illegal race here. there are illegal asians, middle easterns, Europeans, Austrians etc.. the problem with them is they get cought easyly cuz they have to come in a shipping container and if a search dog sniffs them then thay are going back.

the problem here too is not all illegals (any race) are here getting hands outs. a lot of them go to work and earn there money. and there is teh ones who take advatage by going to work and asking to get paid in cash and then go ask for help because they will report that they are broke.

dont get me wrong im in favor for doing something about out boarders and kicking out all illgals from any race from here. but give a chance to the familys who is actually doing what my family went trough. make htem get in line make them pay there dues and fees to be part of the US but send them to the back of the line but in the mean time do a review and see if that family is really worth having here in the US look at the tax returns how many kids they have etc... and give them a green card in the mean time while they wait for there forms to get pulled up to be part of the US.

but make sure they have to learn english. and not AND DO NOT turn any US phrases like the nations song to be sang to any other language. yes its ok to speak in spanish or any other language. but english is first.

and any family here for less then 3 years and asking for a free ride to US cizitenship screw them. give them a VISA for a few more year and make them report taxes and see how much they do make and see if they apply for any free help.

and get a vist from ICE agents to the familys house like 2 times year randomly to any illgal family asking for free help and to see if there houseis full of fancy item. like falt screen TVs and anything very expsenive. if what they own is does not match the kind of income they are claming to be is right. then there will get a call from the IRS and that family will be called up for review to see how they are buying all those thigns but in the same time they are claming they have no money so they need government help.

I wouldn't mind giving amnesty to

- Illegals that speak english

- Illegals that have no criminal record

- Illegals that pledge their allegiance to America (as in none of that 'this is a stolen continent' garbage)

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[QUOTE="majoras_wrath"][QUOTE="LegitGamer3212"]

REMOVE THEM omg simple as that!!!!! Get state troopers to raid and round them up, place them in a crummy truck and ship them back like cargo. How hard is that? what do you how can we round them up?

LegitGamer3212

I am more then a little bit glad that people like you don't run the world. Please vacate my country, as you seem to be wishing it to become the 4th Reich. "Rounding them up like cargo"? The jew inside me wants to reach across the screen and slap some sense into you.

i have nothing personal against illegal hispanics, people are people there's bad there's good, you can be a 10th generation white guy and be a murderer, rapist, child molester. He asked me "how do we round them up", i told him with state troopers, put them on trucks, maybe tractor trailers and give them a ride back. A plane right would be too expensive. Secure the border with electrified fence so they don't just hop back over 2 hours later. With an open border a terrorist can simply slip pass and bomb your subway or house.

See, the thing is, we don't know where or who they are. :roll:

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[QUOTE="majoras_wrath"][QUOTE="LegitGamer3212"]AHUGECAT

I am more then a little bit glad that people like you don't run the world. Please vacate my country, as you seem to be wishing it to become the 4th Reich. "Rounding them up like cargo"? The jew inside me wants to reach across the screen and slap some sense into you.

Can't compare.

Jews were citizens who had their citizenship ripped away. Illegals are not citizens.

No matter what country you are from, you cannot take away human rights. No matter the situation. How can you honestly look at that and not be offended on just about every level?
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#107 AHUGECAT
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[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

[QUOTE="majoras_wrath"] I am more then a little bit glad that people like you don't run the world. Please vacate my country, as you seem to be wishing it to become the 4th Reich. "Rounding them up like cargo"? The jew inside me wants to reach across the screen and slap some sense into you.Tauruslink

Can't compare.

Jews were citizens who had their citizenship ripped away. Illegals are not citizens.

Of course you can compare. People are people.

There are borders. Mexico has some of the toughest laws on illegal immigration, ironically. In fact they have killed quite a few.

I am not saying round them up and kill them, just deport them to their home country.

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#108 LegitGamer3212
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[QUOTE="LegitGamer3212"]

[QUOTE="Tauruslink"] Yeah they have to be near Mexicans! How horrible! It must be so terrible for them right!? Man, I'm glat at least you are spared that terrible fate! :roll:

SgtKevali

right...where are you from? probably not the border states. The mexican drug war is spilling over into America. Cops, farmers, citizens are being murdered by these mexican drug lords, whatever i'm going to stop here. Goto Arizona my money says you'll want to remove them yourself after seeing whats up

And now what does that have to do with illegal immigration and regular illegal immigrants?

ehh what do you think those mexican drug lords and the drug war that's spilling over....who do you think the people are...surprise surprise illegal hispanics. like i said a terrorist and slip pass the border as an illegal and bomb your community

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#109 AHUGECAT
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[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

[QUOTE="majoras_wrath"] I am more then a little bit glad that people like you don't run the world. Please vacate my country, as you seem to be wishing it to become the 4th Reich. "Rounding them up like cargo"? The jew inside me wants to reach across the screen and slap some sense into you.majoras_wrath

Can't compare.

Jews were citizens who had their citizenship ripped away. Illegals are not citizens.

No matter what country you are from, you cannot take away human rights. No matter the situation. How can you honestly look at that and not be offended on just about every level?

Tell Mexico that, considering they have the toughest laws on illegal immigration possibly in the world.

Deporting them to their home country isn't "taking away human rights." How is it? I bet Ted Bundy would've loved you. "They took away my human rights to murder!"

Breaking the law is breaking the law is breaking the law.

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#110 majoras_wrath
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[QUOTE="majoras_wrath"][QUOTE="LegitGamer3212"]

REMOVE THEM omg simple as that!!!!! Get state troopers to raid and round them up, place them in a crummy truck and ship them back like cargo. How hard is that? what do you how can we round them up?

LegitGamer3212

I am more then a little bit glad that people like you don't run the world. Please vacate my country, as you seem to be wishing it to become the 4th Reich. "Rounding them up like cargo"? The jew inside me wants to reach across the screen and slap some sense into you.

i have nothing personal against illegal hispanics, people are people there's bad there's good, you can be a 10th generation white guy and be a murderer, rapist, child molester. He asked me "how do we round them up", i told him with state troopers, put them on trucks, maybe tractor trailers and give them a ride back. A plane right would be too expensive. Secure the border with electrified fence so they don't just hop back over 2 hours later. With an open border a terrorist can simply slip pass and bomb your subway or house.

Nice backpedeling bub. "Place them in a crummy truck and ship them back like cargo" does not mean the same thing as a nice ride. Also, secure the border? You mean, one of the longest borders we share? i'd be laughing if I wasn't so pissed off.
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#111 AHUGECAT
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btw i think the europeans are having the same but with the middle easter

acsam12304

The UK has over a million illegal immigrants (though this is probably just the numbers for London alone)

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[QUOTE="Tauruslink"][QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

Can't compare.

Jews were citizens who had their citizenship ripped away. Illegals are not citizens.

AHUGECAT

Of course you can compare. People are people.

There are borders. Mexico has some of the toughest laws on illegal immigration, ironically. In fact they have killed quite a few.

I am not saying round them up and kill them, just deport them to their home country.

You have a tendency of not answering questions. Where did you get the idea that California spends billions on illegal immigrant healthcare and prisoncare?

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#113 AHUGECAT
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[QUOTE="LegitGamer3212"]

[QUOTE="majoras_wrath"] I am more then a little bit glad that people like you don't run the world. Please vacate my country, as you seem to be wishing it to become the 4th Reich. "Rounding them up like cargo"? The jew inside me wants to reach across the screen and slap some sense into you.majoras_wrath

i have nothing personal against illegal hispanics, people are people there's bad there's good, you can be a 10th generation white guy and be a murderer, rapist, child molester. He asked me "how do we round them up", i told him with state troopers, put them on trucks, maybe tractor trailers and give them a ride back. A plane right would be too expensive. Secure the border with electrified fence so they don't just hop back over 2 hours later. With an open border a terrorist can simply slip pass and bomb your subway or house.

Nice backpedeling bub. "Place them in a crummy truck and ship them back like cargo" does not mean the same thing as a nice ride. Also, secure the border? You mean, one of the longest borders we share? i'd be laughing if I wasn't so pissed off.

You said you were part Jewish, right? How do you explain Israel's border:

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#114 majoras_wrath
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[QUOTE="majoras_wrath"][QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

Can't compare.

Jews were citizens who had their citizenship ripped away. Illegals are not citizens.

AHUGECAT

No matter what country you are from, you cannot take away human rights. No matter the situation. How can you honestly look at that and not be offended on just about every level?

Tell Mexico that, considering they have the toughest laws on illegal immigration possibly in the world.

Deporting them to their home country isn't "taking away human rights." How is it? I bet Ted Bundy would've loved you. "They took away my human rights to murder!"

Breaking the law is breaking the law is breaking the law.

Loading them into "crummy trucks like cargo" is a violation of human rights. If you ever run for office, I hope I find out so I can use these posts against you.
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#115 AHUGECAT
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[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

[QUOTE="Tauruslink"] Of course you can compare. People are people. SgtKevali

There are borders. Mexico has some of the toughest laws on illegal immigration, ironically. In fact they have killed quite a few.

I am not saying round them up and kill them, just deport them to their home country.

You have a tendency of not answering questions. Where did you get the idea that California spends billions on illegal immigrant healthcare and prisoncare?

http://usgovinfo.about.com/od/immigrationnaturalizatio/a/caillegals.htm

Some estimates have ranged from $10.5 billion to even as high as $30 billion, but I'd say more around $13-$16 billion.

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[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

[QUOTE="majoras_wrath"] No matter what country you are from, you cannot take away human rights. No matter the situation. How can you honestly look at that and not be offended on just about every level?majoras_wrath

Tell Mexico that, considering they have the toughest laws on illegal immigration possibly in the world.

Deporting them to their home country isn't "taking away human rights." How is it? I bet Ted Bundy would've loved you. "They took away my human rights to murder!"

Breaking the law is breaking the law is breaking the law.

Loading them into "crummy trucks like cargo" is a violation of human rights. If you ever run for office, I hope I find out so I can use these posts against you.

I would use busses.

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[QUOTE="majoras_wrath"] I am more then a little bit glad that people like you don't run the world. Please vacate my country, as you seem to be wishing it to become the 4th Reich. "Rounding them up like cargo"? The jew inside me wants to reach across the screen and slap some sense into you.SgtKevali

i have nothing personal against illegal hispanics, people are people there's bad there's good, you can be a 10th generation white guy and be a murderer, rapist, child molester. He asked me "how do we round them up", i told him with state troopers, put them on trucks, maybe tractor trailers and give them a ride back. A plane right would be too expensive. Secure the border with electrified fence so they don't just hop back over 2 hours later. With an open border a terrorist can simply slip pass and bomb your subway or house.

See, the thing is, we don't know where or who they are. :roll:

they are CRIMINALS what else? people have wait 10 years!!!! in their country just to get a work permit or green card to come to the U.S. Where as them.....hell they just hop the border and bam they're here. They're trespassers, you know the castle doctrine where if someone is on your property they can get shot?

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Who cares. So hes an immigrant and wants free stuff. Everyone in Ameriaca was an immigrant at some point since they came from Britain. You guys should just be happy that the people coming in arent shooting you on site like America did some hundread years ago. Thats why im so glad I live in Canada.

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A sign like that offends me. Honestly, America doesn't owe that person jack ****. Get free from what? Social oppression? Man that sign pisses me off
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[QUOTE="LegitGamer3212"]

[QUOTE="majoras_wrath"] I am more then a little bit glad that people like you don't run the world. Please vacate my country, as you seem to be wishing it to become the 4th Reich. "Rounding them up like cargo"? The jew inside me wants to reach across the screen and slap some sense into you.majoras_wrath

i have nothing personal against illegal hispanics, people are people there's bad there's good, you can be a 10th generation white guy and be a murderer, rapist, child molester. He asked me "how do we round them up", i told him with state troopers, put them on trucks, maybe tractor trailers and give them a ride back. A plane right would be too expensive. Secure the border with electrified fence so they don't just hop back over 2 hours later. With an open border a terrorist can simply slip pass and bomb your subway or house.

Nice backpedeling bub. "Place them in a crummy truck and ship them back like cargo" does not mean the same thing as a nice ride. Also, secure the border? You mean, one of the longest borders we share? i'd be laughing if I wasn't so pissed off.

i never said a nice ride, why are you putting words in my mouth? all i said was put them on a truck possibly a tractor trailer and drive them to the border to be removed. The longest borders.....ok so we fought an illegal war in Iraq but we can't secure a border..even though it's a long border.

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[QUOTE="SgtKevali"]

[QUOTE="LegitGamer3212"]

i have nothing personal against illegal hispanics, people are people there's bad there's good, you can be a 10th generation white guy and be a murderer, rapist, child molester. He asked me "how do we round them up", i told him with state troopers, put them on trucks, maybe tractor trailers and give them a ride back. A plane right would be too expensive. Secure the border with electrified fence so they don't just hop back over 2 hours later. With an open border a terrorist can simply slip pass and bomb your subway or house.

LegitGamer3212

See, the thing is, we don't know where or who they are. :roll:

they are CRIMINALS what else? people have wait 10 years!!!! in their country just to get a work permit or green card to come to the U.S. Where as them.....hell they just hop the border and bam they're here. They're trespassers, you know the castle doctrine where if someone is on your property they can get shot?

Listen. How do we catch them? There are millions of them, it's not that simple.

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[QUOTE="SgtKevali"]

[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

There are borders. Mexico has some of the toughest laws on illegal immigration, ironically. In fact they have killed quite a few.

I am not saying round them up and kill them, just deport them to their home country.

AHUGECAT

You have a tendency of not answering questions. Where did you get the idea that California spends billions on illegal immigrant healthcare and prisoncare?

http://usgovinfo.about.com/od/immigrationnaturalizatio/a/caillegals.htm

Some estimates have ranged from $10.5 billion to even as high as $30 billion, but I'd say more around $13-$16 billion.

That's six years old, and it was conducted by FAIR.

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Stupid, lazy idiots painting a bad stereotype for immigrants. Bah.

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[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

[QUOTE="SgtKevali"]

You have a tendency of not answering questions. Where did you get the idea that California spends billions on illegal immigrant healthcare and prisoncare?

SgtKevali

http://usgovinfo.about.com/od/immigrationnaturalizatio/a/caillegals.htm

Some estimates have ranged from $10.5 billion to even as high as $30 billion, but I'd say more around $13-$16 billion.

That's six years old, and it was conducted by FAIR.

Yeah it is six years old, I was wondering where I read the costs are now $13-$16 billion today. The 13-16 must be the newer numbers.

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#125 LegitGamer3212
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[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

[QUOTE="majoras_wrath"] I am more then a little bit glad that people like you don't run the world. Please vacate my country, as you seem to be wishing it to become the 4th Reich. "Rounding them up like cargo"? The jew inside me wants to reach across the screen and slap some sense into you.majoras_wrath

Can't compare.

Jews were citizens who had their citizenship ripped away. Illegals are not citizens.

No matter what country you are from, you cannot take away human rights. No matter the situation. How can you honestly look at that and not be offended on just about every level?

you can take away rights if it's in terms that the person is a criminal. Solitary confinement is taking away human rights, but we use it because they're simple criminals.

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#126 majoras_wrath
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[QUOTE="majoras_wrath"][QUOTE="LegitGamer3212"]

i have nothing personal against illegal hispanics, people are people there's bad there's good, you can be a 10th generation white guy and be a murderer, rapist, child molester. He asked me "how do we round them up", i told him with state troopers, put them on trucks, maybe tractor trailers and give them a ride back. A plane right would be too expensive. Secure the border with electrified fence so they don't just hop back over 2 hours later. With an open border a terrorist can simply slip pass and bomb your subway or house.

LegitGamer3212

Nice backpedeling bub. "Place them in a crummy truck and ship them back like cargo" does not mean the same thing as a nice ride. Also, secure the border? You mean, one of the longest borders we share? i'd be laughing if I wasn't so pissed off.

i never said a nice ride, why are you putting words in my mouth? all i said was put them on a truck possibly a tractor trailer and drive them to the border to be removed. The longest borders.....ok so we fought an illegal war in Iraq but we can't secure a border..even though it's a long border.

Stop avoiding the fact that you just suggested pretty much an identical method of getting undesirables out a country as Hitler did. Swap "cattlecars with human cargo with "crummy trucks...ship them back like cargo" and there you go. I'm tired, I need to go to bed, and I don't feel like reading more undistilled bigotry. Goodnight.
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#127 Tauruslink
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Can't compare.

Jews were citizens who had their citizenship ripped away. Illegals are not citizens.

AHUGECAT

Of course you can compare. People are people.

There are borders. Mexico has some of the toughest laws on illegal immigration, ironically. In fact they have killed quite a few.

I am not saying round them up and kill them, just deport them to their home country.

Didn't I already explain this to you? Mexico has tough immigration laws because many of those who enter illegaly are doing so on their way to the U.S. and so the U.S. pressures them to have those strict laws. If you dislike illegal immigrants so much, you should be thanking Mexico, because if it wasn't for their tough immigration laws, there would be A LOT more illegal immigrants here. And I don't believe that killing the migrants is Mexico's official policy in dealing with them. Sometimes rouge agents act out of hands, or sometimes accidents happen. American border patro units have killed immigrants too:

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9B04E1DB1130F93BA25752C0A9619C8B63

And I know you aren't talking about killing them, but seriously with the language that many people use to describe how to deal with illegal immigrants, images of Nazi Germany certainly come to mind.

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#128 LegitGamer3212
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[QUOTE="majoras_wrath"][QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

Tell Mexico that, considering they have the toughest laws on illegal immigration possibly in the world.

Deporting them to their home country isn't "taking away human rights." How is it? I bet Ted Bundy would've loved you. "They took away my human rights to murder!"

Breaking the law is breaking the law is breaking the law.

AHUGECAT

Loading them into "crummy trucks like cargo" is a violation of human rights. If you ever run for office, I hope I find out so I can use these posts against you.

I would use busses.

not grey hound busses, but really old, cheap, no seats, no AC busses. We can't afford to spend alot of money on this being in this state of economy right now. We are in debt, citizens with no jobs, arizona, texas, cali. being taken by illegals, it's getting worse and worse every month

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#129 despa1r_fact0r
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I wouldn't mind giving amnesty to

- Illegals that speak english

- Illegals that have no criminal record

- Illegals that pledge their allegiance to America (as in none of that 'this is a stolen continent' garbage)

AHUGECAT

Whoa whoa whoa - were you not the one a few days ago saying that America shouldn't allow legal immigrant into America until we fix the economy, and then when the economy is fixed we should then limit how many immigrant we let into America. And, deport ALL illegals because they are "bankrupting California"

Now your fine with amnesty...good on you for sticking to your convictions :roll:

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#130 AHUGECAT
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[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

[QUOTE="Tauruslink"] Of course you can compare. People are people. Tauruslink

There are borders. Mexico has some of the toughest laws on illegal immigration, ironically. In fact they have killed quite a few.

I am not saying round them up and kill them, just deport them to their home country.

Didn't I already explain this to you? Mexico has tough immigration laws because many of those who enter illegaly are doing so on their way to the U.S. and so the U.S. pressures them to have those strict laws. If you dislike illegal immigrants so much, you should be thanking Mexico, because if it wasn't for their tough immigration laws, there would be A LOT more illegal immigrants here. And I don't believe that killing the migrants is Mexico's official policy in dealing with them. Sometimes rouge agents act out of hands, or sometimes accidents happen. American border patro units have killed immigrants too:

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9B04E1DB1130F93BA25752C0A9619C8B63

And I know you aren't talking about killing them, but seriously with the language that many people use to describe how to deal with illegal immigrants, images of Nazi Germany certainly come to mind.

I noticed how 2 people brought up Nazi Germany in this thread, yet they probably have zero knowledge about Nazi Germany.

Deporting illegal immigrants is nothing, absolutely, NOTHING, like Nazi Germany.

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#131 AHUGECAT
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[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

I wouldn't mind giving amnesty to

- Illegals that speak english

- Illegals that have no criminal record

- Illegals that pledge their allegiance to America (as in none of that 'this is a stolen continent' garbage)

despa1r_fact0r

Whoa whoa whoa - were you not the one a few days ago saying that America shouldn't allow legal immigrant into America until we fix the economy, and then when the economy is fixed we should then limit how many immigrant we let into America. And, deport ALL illegals because they are "bankrupting California"

Now your fine with amnesty...good on you for sticking to your convictions :roll:

I wouldn't grant them amnesty until the economy recovers (if it ever does). I'd grant amnesty to maybe 10% of them.

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What should we do about illegal immigration?

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#133 despa1r_fact0r
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[QUOTE="despa1r_fact0r"]

[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

I wouldn't mind giving amnesty to

- Illegals that speak english

- Illegals that have no criminal record

- Illegals that pledge their allegiance to America (as in none of that 'this is a stolen continent' garbage)

AHUGECAT

Whoa whoa whoa - were you not the one a few days ago saying that America shouldn't allow legal immigrant into America until we fix the economy, and then when the economy is fixed we should then limit how many immigrant we let into America. And, deport ALL illegals because they are "bankrupting California"

Now your fine with amnesty...good on you for sticking to your convictions :roll:

I wouldn't grant them amnesty until the economy recovers (if it ever does). I'd grant amnesty to maybe 10% of them.

So your for deportation of all immigrants now while the economy is bad, then when the economy is fixed your ok with giving amnesty with the 10% of the remain illegals after they have all been deported.....makes sense :roll:
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#134 Tauruslink
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[QUOTE="Tauruslink"]

[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

There are borders. Mexico has some of the toughest laws on illegal immigration, ironically. In fact they have killed quite a few.

I am not saying round them up and kill them, just deport them to their home country.

AHUGECAT

Didn't I already explain this to you? Mexico has tough immigration laws because many of those who enter illegaly are doing so on their way to the U.S. and so the U.S. pressures them to have those strict laws. If you dislike illegal immigrants so much, you should be thanking Mexico, because if it wasn't for their tough immigration laws, there would be A LOT more illegal immigrants here. And I don't believe that killing the migrants is Mexico's official policy in dealing with them. Sometimes rouge agents act out of hands, or sometimes accidents happen. American border patro units have killed immigrants too:

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9B04E1DB1130F93BA25752C0A9619C8B63

And I know you aren't talking about killing them, but seriously with the language that many people use to describe how to deal with illegal immigrants, images of Nazi Germany certainly come to mind.

I noticed how 2 people brought up Nazi Germany in this thread, yet they probably have zero knowledge about Nazi Germany.

Deporting illegal immigrants is nothing, absolutely, NOTHING, like Nazi Germany.

Well we haven't started up the furnaces yet, but blaming a certain group on all of America's problems and how we need to get rid of them is. If you don't see that similarity then maybe it is you who knows nothing about Nazi Germany.
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#135 LegitGamer3212
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What should we do about illegal immigration?

SgtKevali

raid and remove them with state troopers

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#136 AHUGECAT
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[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

[QUOTE="Tauruslink"]

Didn't I already explain this to you? Mexico has tough immigration laws because many of those who enter illegaly are doing so on their way to the U.S. and so the U.S. pressures them to have those strict laws. If you dislike illegal immigrants so much, you should be thanking Mexico, because if it wasn't for their tough immigration laws, there would be A LOT more illegal immigrants here. And I don't believe that killing the migrants is Mexico's official policy in dealing with them. Sometimes rouge agents act out of hands, or sometimes accidents happen. American border patro units have killed immigrants too:

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9B04E1DB1130F93BA25752C0A9619C8B63

And I know you aren't talking about killing them, but seriously with the language that many people use to describe how to deal with illegal immigrants, images of Nazi Germany certainly come to mind.

Tauruslink

I noticed how 2 people brought up Nazi Germany in this thread, yet they probably have zero knowledge about Nazi Germany.

Deporting illegal immigrants is nothing, absolutely, NOTHING, like Nazi Germany.

Well we haven't started up the furnaces yet, but blaming a certain group on all of America's problems and how we need to get rid of them is. If you don't see that similarity then maybe it is you who knows nothing about Nazi Germany.

No, I don't see the similarity at all.

At one hand, we have a country that took away citizenship of people and put them into concentration camps, many of them to die (Nazi Germany).

On the other hand, we have a country that is enforcing its laws, and deporting people who are NOT citizens to their countries, and thus protecting our border (USA).

Where are the similarities again?

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#137 weezyfb
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That is just one guy, not representing the whole group
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#138 LegitGamer3212
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[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

[QUOTE="Tauruslink"]

Didn't I already explain this to you? Mexico has tough immigration laws because many of those who enter illegaly are doing so on their way to the U.S. and so the U.S. pressures them to have those strict laws. If you dislike illegal immigrants so much, you should be thanking Mexico, because if it wasn't for their tough immigration laws, there would be A LOT more illegal immigrants here. And I don't believe that killing the migrants is Mexico's official policy in dealing with them. Sometimes rouge agents act out of hands, or sometimes accidents happen. American border patro units have killed immigrants too:

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9B04E1DB1130F93BA25752C0A9619C8B63

And I know you aren't talking about killing them, but seriously with the language that many people use to describe how to deal with illegal immigrants, images of Nazi Germany certainly come to mind.

Tauruslink

I noticed how 2 people brought up Nazi Germany in this thread, yet they probably have zero knowledge about Nazi Germany.

Deporting illegal immigrants is nothing, absolutely, NOTHING, like Nazi Germany.

Well we haven't started up the furnaces yet, but blaming a certain group on all of America's problems and how we need to get rid of them is. If you don't see that similarity then maybe it is you who knows nothing about Nazi Germany.

No one talks about the good things hitler did. What about bringing back up the economy and many other positive things hitler did.

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#139 Tauruslink
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[QUOTE="Tauruslink"][QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

I noticed how 2 people brought up Nazi Germany in this thread, yet they probably have zero knowledge about Nazi Germany.

Deporting illegal immigrants is nothing, absolutely, NOTHING, like Nazi Germany.

AHUGECAT

Well we haven't started up the furnaces yet, but blaming a certain group on all of America's problems and how we need to get rid of them is. If you don't see that similarity then maybe it is you who knows nothing about Nazi Germany.

No, I don't see the similarity at all.

At one hand, we have a country that took away citizenship of people and put them into concentration camps, many of them to die (Nazi Germany).

On the other hand, we have a country that is enforcing its laws, and deporting people who are NOT citizens to their countries, and thus protecting our border (USA).

Where are the similarities again?

I already told you. Read it again. ;) And btw, some politicians ARE actually in favor of taking away the citizenship of LEGAL American citizens. They try to justify this by some claim that their parents were not from here.
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#140 LegitGamer3212
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[QUOTE="LegitGamer3212"]

[QUOTE="majoras_wrath"] Nice backpedeling bub. "Place them in a crummy truck and ship them back like cargo" does not mean the same thing as a nice ride. Also, secure the border? You mean, one of the longest borders we share? i'd be laughing if I wasn't so pissed off.majoras_wrath

i never said a nice ride, why are you putting words in my mouth? all i said was put them on a truck possibly a tractor trailer and drive them to the border to be removed. The longest borders.....ok so we fought an illegal war in Iraq but we can't secure a border..even though it's a long border.

Stop avoiding the fact that you just suggested pretty much an identical method of getting undesirables out a country as Hitler did. Swap "cattlecars with human cargo with "crummy trucks...ship them back like cargo" and there you go. I'm tired, I need to go to bed, and I don't feel like reading more undistilled bigotry. Goodnight.

you're comparing deporting illegals to nazi germany......you got to be kidding

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#141 Tauruslink
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[QUOTE="Tauruslink"][QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

I noticed how 2 people brought up Nazi Germany in this thread, yet they probably have zero knowledge about Nazi Germany.

Deporting illegal immigrants is nothing, absolutely, NOTHING, like Nazi Germany.

LegitGamer3212

Well we haven't started up the furnaces yet, but blaming a certain group on all of America's problems and how we need to get rid of them is. If you don't see that similarity then maybe it is you who knows nothing about Nazi Germany.

No one talks about the good things hitler did. What about bringing back up the economy and many other positive things hitler did.

Ends justify the means right? Sure he killed millions of innocent people, but hey, he improved the economy! So its all good right?
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#142 AHUGECAT
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[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

[QUOTE="Tauruslink"] Well we haven't started up the furnaces yet, but blaming a certain group on all of America's problems and how we need to get rid of them is. If you don't see that similarity then maybe it is you who knows nothing about Nazi Germany.Tauruslink

No, I don't see the similarity at all.

At one hand, we have a country that took away citizenship of people and put them into concentration camps, many of them to die (Nazi Germany).

On the other hand, we have a country that is enforcing its laws, and deporting people who are NOT citizens to their countries, and thus protecting our border (USA).

Where are the similarities again?

I already told you. Read it again. ;) And btw, some politicians ARE actually in favor of taking away the citizenship of LEGAL American citizens. They try to justify this by some claim that their parents were not from here.

We just have to enforce our laws.

That's nothing like the Holocaust or the Holodomor.

What part of SoCal are you from? What city?

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#143 SgtKevali
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[QUOTE="SgtKevali"]

What should we do about illegal immigration?

LegitGamer3212

raid and remove them with state troopers

We don't know where they are or who they are. What's your answer to that?

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#144 despa1r_fact0r
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[QUOTE="Tauruslink"][QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

I noticed how 2 people brought up Nazi Germany in this thread, yet they probably have zero knowledge about Nazi Germany.

Deporting illegal immigrants is nothing, absolutely, NOTHING, like Nazi Germany.

LegitGamer3212

Well we haven't started up the furnaces yet, but blaming a certain group on all of America's problems and how we need to get rid of them is. If you don't see that similarity then maybe it is you who knows nothing about Nazi Germany.

No one talks about the good things hitler did. What about bringing back up the economy and many other positive things hitler did.

Probably because he tried to eradicate a group of people. It's hard to pretty up a turd when it smells like it does.
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#145 AHUGECAT
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[QUOTE="LegitGamer3212"]

[QUOTE="SgtKevali"]

What should we do about illegal immigration?

SgtKevali

raid and remove them with state troopers

We don't know where they are or who they are. What's your answer to that?

Just go to downtown L.A. and you'll find about a million there.

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#146 Tauruslink
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[QUOTE="Tauruslink"][QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

No, I don't see the similarity at all.

At one hand, we have a country that took away citizenship of people and put them into concentration camps, many of them to die (Nazi Germany).

On the other hand, we have a country that is enforcing its laws, and deporting people who are NOT citizens to their countries, and thus protecting our border (USA).

Where are the similarities again?

AHUGECAT

I already told you. Read it again. ;) And btw, some politicians ARE actually in favor of taking away the citizenship of LEGAL American citizens. They try to justify this by some claim that their parents were not from here.

We just have to enforce our laws.

That's nothing like the Holocaust or the Holodomor.

What part of SoCal are you from? What city?

I told you before, I'm in LA county. I'm not telling a complete stranger on the internet what city I'm from though. Lol.
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#147 Ravirr
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[QUOTE="LegitGamer3212"]

[QUOTE="SgtKevali"]

What should we do about illegal immigration?

SgtKevali

raid and remove them with state troopers

We don't know where they are or who they are. What's your answer to that?

throw more at the problem to find them obviously.

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#148 Ravirr
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[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

[QUOTE="Tauruslink"] I already told you. Read it again. ;) And btw, some politicians ARE actually in favor of taking away the citizenship of LEGAL American citizens. They try to justify this by some claim that their parents were not from here.Tauruslink

We just have to enforce our laws.

That's nothing like the Holocaust or the Holodomor.

What part of SoCal are you from? What city?

I told you before, I'm in LA county. I'm not telling a complete stranger on the internet what city I'm from though. Lol.

Socal is nice. I'm stuck up in the norcal. I want to move down to Irvine in a couple of years.

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#149 Tauruslink
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[QUOTE="Tauruslink"][QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

We just have to enforce our laws.

That's nothing like the Holocaust or the Holodomor.

What part of SoCal are you from? What city?

Ravirr

I told you before, I'm in LA county. I'm not telling a complete stranger on the internet what city I'm from though. Lol.

Socal is nice. I'm stuck up in the norcal. I want to move down to Irvine in a couple of years.

Irvine is nice. Great weather.
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#150 Ravirr
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[QUOTE="Ravirr"]

[QUOTE="Tauruslink"] I told you before, I'm in LA county. I'm not telling a complete stranger on the internet what city I'm from though. Lol.Tauruslink

Socal is nice. I'm stuck up in the norcal. I want to move down to Irvine in a couple of years.

Irvine is nice. Great weather.

So clean, I went to one of there out door malls, when I was visiting and no gum stuck to the ground. I was shocked. haha.