TIP: How NOT to get a tip/gratuity.

[QUOTE="Necrifer"]

So, they have to come back to your table with perfect timing?

DevilMightCry

Mhmmm

And what time range is considered "reasonable"?

If I owned a restaurant and someone didn't tip a waiter because of the music I'd tell them flat-out not to come back.

theone86

What if they're a regular who always comes with friends/family and orders the most expensive dishes?

Edit: And times before that, they would tip 20+%?

[QUOTE="DevilMightCry"][QUOTE="Necrifer"]

So, they have to come back to your table with perfect timing?

Necrifer

Mhmmm

And what time range is considered "reasonable"?

[QUOTE="theone86"]

If I owned a restaurant and someone didn't tip a waiter because of the music I'd tell them flat-out not to come back.

Necrifer

What if they're a regular who always comes with friends/family and orders the most expensive dishes?

Edit: And times before that, they would tip 20+%?

I'd probably tell them that if they have a problem with the music then ask for me or a manager and don't take it out on the wait staff. Also, I'd assume that the music would be consistent with the previous times they've been there.

5 minutes tops.

DevilMightCry

According to you, there's also a minimum. What would that be?

I'd probably tell them that if they have a problem with the music then ask for me or a manager and don't take it out on the wait staff. Also, I'd assume that the music would be consistent with the previous times they've been there.theone86

[QUOTE="Necrifer"]

[QUOTE="DevilMightCry"] Reasonable time.DevilMightCry

Mhmmm

And what time range is considered "reasonable"?

The only time that I have never tipped is one time when I went to Friday's. The food took over 2 hours, and when it finally came out, it was the wrong food and it was burnt and cold. You just sound like a d*ck OP.

I'd probably tell them that if they have a problem with the music then ask for me or a manager and don't take it out on the wait staff.

That would be the smart thing to do.

Also, I'd assume that the music would be consistent with the previous times they've been there.

Probably.

theone86

[QUOTE="theone86"]I'd probably tell them that if they have a problem with the music then ask for me or a manager and don't take it out on the wait staff. Also, I'd assume that the music would be consistent with the previous times they've been there.Lonelynight

Usually music at a restaurant is consistent and for ambiance, it's not for the wait staff's gratification. If there is a problem with the music, it's the manager or owner's problem and customers should talk to them.

Your list stinks. It should be this:

1. Bad Service.

Your list stinks. It should be this:

1. Bad Service.

sonicare

TC's list is bad service

to the TC.

[QUOTE="Jandurin"]protip - you're an awful personDevilMightCry

You refuse to tip based on what music the restaurant is playing. The server doesn't even have control over that. So, you basically walk in to a restaurant, recognize you refuse to tip, still make the waitress wait on you hand and foot, and then leave with your belly full and write a self righteous post like this.

You suck.

[QUOTE="DevilMightCry"][QUOTE="Necrifer"]

Mhmmm

And what time range is considered "reasonable"?

Jandurin

No, I mean 5 minutes after I sit down for someone to come over to the table and ask me anything. After that, 10-15 minutes for my food is faily good. Anything over that and it becomes an issue.DevilMightCry

[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="DevilMightCry"]No, I mean 5 minutes after I sit down for someone to come over to the table and ask me anything. After that, 10-15 minutes for my food is faily good. Anything over that and it becomes an issue.SEANMCAD

I think he is being fair. Once the host sits you down 5 mins for the water to come seems resonable to me.

Here are some good tips on what not to do, compiled from my experience. 1. Get my order wrong. Wrong appetizers, meals and desserts. Beverages? Not so much. 2. Bring main course first then appetizers. There is a reason why it's called that. 3. Look for a server to order. I shouldn't have to look for anybody once I sit down. 4. You're playing annoying music in the background. I don't want to hear F$%&@#! music. You don't know my taste. I don't want to hear music, especially if it's loud, and hip hop. 5. You don't come to the table often enough. I want refills. When you see I look like I need one or something else, come and serve me, please. 6. You come to the table too often. STFU with the "How are we doing tonight" already! Can't you see me I am eating? 7. Don't touch me, my wife/girlfriend/S.O. or my kids. Don't asume I'm friendly. 8. Pre-determined gratuity. Ohh yeah? Your employer knows how much I was going to tip? Well, I guess then it's fine if you just get the bare minimum since they know better. 9. You don't greet me/welcome me, or don't thank me. 10. You're ugly. Or ugly and fat. Ugly fat people get less tip. Sorry, but.. dawrwinism at work.

DevilMightCry

It's not up to the waiter what music is playing. Waiters are trained to ask how customers are doing. Waiters don't assume you're friendly but they have to be friendly. The pre determined tip isnt up to the waiter.

[QUOTE="DevilMightCry"]

Here are some good tips on what not to do, compiled from my experience. 1. Get my order wrong. Wrong appetizers, meals and desserts. Beverages? Not so much. 2. Bring main course first then appetizers. There is a reason why it's called that. 3. Look for a server to order. I shouldn't have to look for anybody once I sit down. 4. You're playing annoying music in the background. I don't want to hear F$%&@#! music. You don't know my taste. I don't want to hear music, especially if it's loud, and hip hop. 5. You don't come to the table often enough. I want refills. When you see I look like I need one or something else, come and serve me, please. 6. You come to the table too often. STFU with the "How are we doing tonight" already! Can't you see me I am eating? 7. Don't touch me, my wife/girlfriend/S.O. or my kids. Don't asume I'm friendly. 8. Pre-determined gratuity. Ohh yeah? Your employer knows how much I was going to tip? Well, I guess then it's fine if you just get the bare minimum since they know better. 9. You don't greet me/welcome me, or don't thank me. 10. You're ugly. Or ugly and fat. Ugly fat people get less tip. Sorry, but.. dawrwinism at work.

sayyy-gaa

It's not up to the waiter what music is playing. Waiters are trained to ask how customers are doing. Waiters don't assume you're friendly but they have to be friendly. The pre determined tip isnt up to the waiter.

Sometimes I go into a restaurant and the wallpaper sucks. No tip for stupid waitress.

Also, if she's fat or male.

Sometimes I go into a restaurant and the wallpaper sucks. No tip for stupid waitress.

Also, if she's fat or male.

coolbeans90

I probably do that, too.

someone I knew who had many years as a waiter during different schedules told me the worst tippers are the church groups.

sunday lunch means all work little reward

SEANMCAD

TC you're an a-hole.

90% of what you stated has nothing to do with the waitress/waiter, and all to do with kitchen and management. You're going to stiff the server because the MANAGEMENT decided to put music on that's annoying to you? You're going to stiff them because the KITCHEN screwed up your order?

And you're not king shlt, sorry, you're of the same priority everyone else is, and nobody is a mind reader. Give the waitress a wave if you need something. Not tipping somebody because they're unattractive is disgusting. You're tipping for service, not eye candy unless you're eating at a strip club.

I don't know if you're actually that delusional or are trolling, but learn to use a takeout menu. Nobody wants to deal with people like you and certainly not on a server's wage with little or no tip.

TC you're an a-hole.

90% of what you stated has nothing to do with the waitress/waiter, and all to do with kitchen and management. You're going to stiff the server because the MANAGEMENT decided to put music on that's annoying to you? You're going to stiff them because the KITCHEN screwed up your order?

And you're not king shlt, sorry, you're of the same priority everyone else is, and nobody is a mind reader. Give the waitress a wave if you need something. Not tipping somebody because they're unattractive is disgusting. You're tipping for service, not eye candy unless you're eating at a strip club.

I don't know if you're actually that delusional or are trolling, but learn to use a takeout menu. Nobody wants to deal with people like you and certainly not on a server's wage with little or no tip.

XilePrincess

TC you're an a-hole.

90% of what you stated has nothing to do with the waitress/waiter, and all to do with kitchen and management. You're going to stiff the server because the MANAGEMENT decided to put music on that's annoying to you? You're going to stiff them because the KITCHEN screwed up your order?

And you're not king shlt, sorry, you're of the same priority everyone else is, and nobody is a mind reader. Give the waitress a wave if you need something. Not tipping somebody because they're unattractive is disgusting. You're tipping for service, not eye candy unless you're eating at a strip club.

I don't know if you're actually that delusional or are trolling, but learn to use a takeout menu. Nobody wants to deal with people like you and certainly not on a server's wage with little or no tip.

XilePrincess

^ that isn't how it works at every establishment xileJandurin

TC, the servers must love you as a customer

servers aren't even entitled to minimum wageXilePrincess

Not, strictly speaking, true. Basically, if tips don't match minimum wage in a pay period, then the employer is req'd to put up the difference.

[QUOTE="XilePrincess"]servers aren't even entitled to minimum wagecoolbeans90

Not, strictly speaking, true. Basically, if tips don't match minimum wage in a pay period, then the employer is req'd to put up the difference.

ter and I knew that one of my customers had this attitude I wouldn't serve them at all. And if I owned a restaurant and a waiter wouldn't serve a customer for that reason I would totally back my staff up.

theone86

If I were a waiter and I knew that one of customers had this attitude, I'd hope to get the chance to serve him so I can dip my helmet in his soup.

dip my helmet in his soup.

Spitfirer

[QUOTE="Spitfirer"]

dip my helmet in his soup.

Jandurin

[QUOTE="Spitfirer"]

dip my helmet in his soup.

Jandurin

I suppose there are less painful alternatives - I'd get one method monthly if I were a woman.

I'm not "cheating" anyone out of their tip.DevilMightCry