To all the people who dont support same sex marriage

I'd vote for it.

But not just because the Bible says it's bad; children out of wedlock causes a host of problems.

I'd vote for it.

But not just because the Bible says it's bad; children out of wedlock causes a host of problems.

mstc_Q

no, I wouldn't vote for it.

My reasons for opposing gay marriage have absolutely nothing to do with the bible.

I think it's important to have sex before marriage, your going to need the practice if you want to keep your wife happy! And believe me if you have never been with a women before marriage and if she has never been with a man. Chances of your staying together after a couple of years i think would be pretty grim.duncancameron23

Exactly, test drive the car before you buy it second hand :| that's a horrible analogy :D 

[QUOTE="duncancameron23"]I think it's important to have sex before marriage, your going to need the practice if you want to keep your wife happy! And believe me if you have never been with a women before marriage and if she has never been with a man. Chances of your staying together after a couple of years i think would be pretty grim.clembo1990

Exactly, test drive the car before you buy it second hand :| that's a horrible analogy :D

no, I wouldn't vote for it.

My reasons for opposing gay marriage have absolutely nothing to do with the bible.

Stumpt25

This guy's got it.

I think it's important to have sex before marriage, your going to need the practice if you want to keep your wife happy! And believe me if you have never been with a women before marriage and if she has never been with a man. Chances of your staying together after a couple of years i think would be pretty grim.duncancameron23

It would probably increase the odds of staying together.....

[QUOTE="duncancameron23"]I think it's important to have sex before marriage, your going to need the practice if you want to keep your wife happy! And believe me if you have never been with a women before marriage and if she has never been with a man. Chances of your staying together after a couple of years i think would be pretty grim.-Austin-

It would probably increase the odds of staying together.....

You tell me that when your 30 and i'll except it's your view. 

I'd like to be about to vote yes though I have a feeling more bad would happen as a result than good.  Think Prohibition...  While you are at it, ban birth-control for people who are not married.

I know what I'd like to happen but that doesn't mean it'd be in the best interest of the nation.  I cannot expect people who do not know the love of Christ to be able to live as Christ would have them live... Though some things like abortion need to be done away with even for those who do not know Christ.  A good example of this happening in the past is William Carey's actions in India. He did away with their practice of sati (burning widows on the funeral pyres of their dead husbands).

[QUOTE="Stumpt25"]

no, I wouldn't vote for it.

My reasons for opposing gay marriage have absolutely nothing to do with the bible.

-Austin-

This guy's got it.

it has to do with the Quran

[QUOTE="-Austin-"][QUOTE="Stumpt25"]

no, I wouldn't vote for it.

My reasons for opposing gay marriage have absolutely nothing to do with the bible.

freshgman

This guy's got it.

it has to do with the Quran

Dah you got meh!

[QUOTE="-Austin-"]

[QUOTE="duncancameron23"]I think it's important to have sex before marriage, your going to need the practice if you want to keep your wife happy! And believe me if you have never been with a women before marriage and if she has never been with a man. Chances of your staying together after a couple of years i think would be pretty grim.duncancameron23

It would probably increase the odds of staying together.....

You tell me that when your 30 and i'll except it's your view.

If you can't even spell the word accept, I don't see why I care what you think.

Some people don't like marrying women who have slept with the whole town.

no, I wouldn't vote for it.

My reasons for opposing gay marriage have absolutely nothing to do with the bible.

Stumpt25

If you don't mind me asking, why is it you oppose gay marriage?

[QUOTE="mstc_Q"]

I'd vote for it.

But not just because the Bible says it's bad; children out of wedlock causes a host of problems.

Bourbons3

Right, but if you want to share health benefits, tax benefits, next-of-kin permissions at hospitals, pension/retirement benefits, and immigration benefits, it's a lot more than a piece of paper.

To be completely clear: how religions want to define marriage is completely up to each religion.  Marriage the a state-recognized union, as performed by judges and other secular officials, should not be limited to heterosexual couples..

[QUOTE="Bourbons3"][QUOTE="mstc_Q"]

I'd vote for it.

But not just because the Bible says it's bad; children out of wedlock causes a host of problems.

CodingGenius

Right, but if you want to share health benefits, tax benefits, next-of-kin permissions at hospitals, pension/retirement benefits, and immigration benefits, it's a lot more than a piece of paper.

To be completely clear: how religions want to define marriage is completely up to each religion.  Marriage the a state-recognized union, as performed by judges and other secular officials, should not be limited to heterosexual couples..

[QUOTE="duncancameron23"][QUOTE="-Austin-"]

 

It would probably increase the odds of staying together.....

-Austin-

You tell me that when your 30 and i'll except it's your view.

If you can't even spell the word accept, I don't see why I care what you think.

Some people don't like marrying women who have slept with the whole town.

Good grief, so i didn't pay attention to my spelling apologies. Wasn't being rude and i don't want a women who has slept with the whole town! I just thing a bit of experience is a good thing is all (bad sex is rubbish!)

its fine let them. its all about attention and finger pointing anyway. a marriage given from the state means nothing. a marriage given by god is sacred.x_Martyr_x

I have a quesiton. If there was a bill that would make illegal to have pre-marital sex, would you vote for it? Since the bible and christianity does not want you to have sex before you're married?mtcoola

Who says only christians oppose gay marriage?

[QUOTE="CodingGenius"][QUOTE="Bourbons3"] Unmarried parents aren't necessarily in an unstable relationship. Some people just don't like the idea of marriage, or that they don't need a piece of paper to prove their relationship is a solid one.Darthmatt

Right, but if you want to share health benefits, tax benefits, next-of-kin permissions at hospitals, pension/retirement benefits, and immigration benefits, it's a lot more than a piece of paper.

To be completely clear: how religions want to define marriage is completely up to each religion.  Marriage the a state-recognized union, as performed by judges and other secular officials, should not be limited to heterosexual couples..

The Constitution does not cover marriage. Period. There has been Supreme Court Case after Supreme Court Case ruling this. Leaving State authority to the State is an American value; giving the government a ton of authority is not.

Some people don't like marrying women who have slept with the whole town.-Austin-

[QUOTE="Darthmatt"][QUOTE="CodingGenius"]

 

Right, but if you want to share health benefits, tax benefits, next-of-kin permissions at hospitals, pension/retirement benefits, and immigration benefits, it's a lot more than a piece of paper.

To be completely clear: how religions want to define marriage is completely up to each religion.  Marriage the a state-recognized union, as performed by judges and other secular officials, should not be limited to heterosexual couples..

Theokhoth

The Constitution does not cover marriage. Period. There has been Supreme Court Case after Supreme Court Case ruling this. Leaving State authority to the State is an American value; giving the government a ton of authority is not.

It may not say it covers marriage, but it does say:"No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."Darthmatt

Baker v. Nelson.

It is not a violation of the Constitution.

Exactly, test drive the car before you buy it second hand :| that's a horrible analogy :D clembo1990

no, I wouldn't vote for it.

My reasons for opposing gay marriage have absolutely nothing to do with the bible.

Stumpt25

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

[QUOTE="Darthmatt"]It may not say it covers marriage, but it does say:"No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."Qooroo

Baker v. Nelson.

It is not a violation of the Constitution.

The American legal system never fails to sink to new depths of stupidity.

That was Loving v. Virginia, not Baker v. Nelson.

I personally don't see why anybody with a logical mindset would want to oppose two couples from marrying eachother simply on the premise regarding their sexuality. They are both consenting, loving adults who wish to further enhance their own relationship with the legal benefits that marriage has to offer, and those who think that is wrong simply astound me for all the wrong reasons.

Hopefully the citizens of the United States get their act together and stop being so prejudice against a minority.

My opinion is simple there should not be any type of Gay Marriages unless a certain religion allows it. Marriage is a term of religion as far as I am concerned. However, I do feel that any commitment ceremonies preformed by the state should be considered Civil Unions whether they are straight or not. All rules under a straight union should be applied to homosexual unions as well.

This would satisfy everyone and keep a seperation of church and state. Also, I don't see how any group would be unhappy by this.

I'd vote for it.

But not just because the Bible says it's bad; children out of wedlock causes a host of problems.

mstc_Q

Same here. 

[QUOTE="mstc_Q"]

I'd vote for it.

But not just because the Bible says it's bad; children out of wedlock causes a host of problems.

battlefront23

Same here. 

Actually, now that I think about it, it should be discouraged but not illegal, as that would be unconstitutional. Rather then telling kids to "have protection" teachers and parents should be telling their students to not have sex. But I guess that's just too much. :roll:

It gets done. And doesn't work.Qooroo

You can thank the 1960s and 70s for that. Lyndon B Johnson's Great Society and abortion... if only those two never existed.

I'd like to respond by pointing out that stripping the negative repressive elements of religion out of mainstrem society isn't a bad thing...but I suppose that given this whole discussion it would probably not get me anywhere.Qooroo

So you like how many fathers can get off and leave their estranged girlfriends/wives/mistress/w/e. and how we've legalized murder? The last of which violates basically everything the Constitution stands for.

[QUOTE="Qooroo"]

I'd like to respond by pointing out that stripping the negative repressive elements of religion out of mainstrem society isn't a bad thing...but I suppose that given this whole discussion it would probably not get me anywhere.battlefront23

So you like how many fathers can get off and leave their estranged girlfriends/wives/mistress/w/e. and how we've legalized murder? The last of which violates basically everything the Constitution stands for.

Gay marriage violates the constitution and declaration of Independence. I mean how do you think slavery got turned?
links136

You mean, the banning of gay marriage? 

[QUOTE="battlefront23"]

[QUOTE="Qooroo"]

I'd like to respond by pointing out that stripping the negative repressive elements of religion out of mainstrem society isn't a bad thing...but I suppose that given this whole discussion it would probably not get me anywhere.links136

So you like how many fathers can get off and leave their estranged girlfriends/wives/mistress/w/e. and how we've legalized murder? The last of which violates basically everything the Constitution stands for.

A state BANNING gay marriage does not violate the Constitution, and the Declaration has nothing to do with the law.:|

[QUOTE="Qooroo"]

I'd like to respond by pointing out that stripping the negative repressive elements of religion out of mainstrem society isn't a bad thing...but I suppose that given this whole discussion it would probably not get me anywhere.battlefront23

So you like how many fathers can get off and leave their estranged girlfriends/wives/mistress/w/e. and how we've legalized murder? The last of which violates basically everything the Constitution stands for.

This thread is about gay marriage, not abortions. Even then, you cannot accurately state that abortion is "legalized murder."

This thread is about gay marriage, not abortions. Even then, you cannot accurately state that abortion is "legalized murder."

-Jiggles-

He asked the question, I answered. And yes I can. It violates all three of these tenets we hold dear: life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. 

[QUOTE="links136"][QUOTE="battlefront23"]

 

So you like how many fathers can get off and leave their estranged girlfriends/wives/mistress/w/e. and how we've legalized murder? The last of which violates basically everything the Constitution stands for.

Theokhoth

A state BANNING gay marriage does not violate the Constitution, and the Declaration has nothing to do with the law.:|