Top Thirteen Most Useless Degrees

[QUOTE="Optical_Order"]

[QUOTE="BranKetra"]Could you explain? You're being pretty vague. What kind of financial aid and what degrees?BluRayHiDef

Poor people are able to get lots and lots of financial aid. If they don't have scholarships, they get to pay all that back.

If you get a degree in lets say, film, and you can't find a job, you still get to pay all of that back. Sometimes than can be a f*ck ton of money. So now you have a worthless degree and a mound of debt. Have fun working at a gas station trying to pay that off.

You could just refuse to pay.

Debt and interest will accrue. Many companies check credit report, and probably won't hire you if they see you simply don't pay your loans.

Also you can't get rid of student loan debt with bankruptcy.

I'm going to be gone for about three hours. See you guys and gals later.

Glad buisness marketing is not on the list

[QUOTE="Optical_Order"]

[QUOTE="BranKetra"]Could you explain? You're being pretty vague. What kind of financial aid and what degrees?BranKetra

Poor people are able to get lots and lots of financial aid. If they don't have scholarships, they get to pay all that back.

If you get a degree in lets say, film, and you can't find a job, you still get to pay all of that back. Sometimes than can be a f*ck ton of money. So now you have a worthless degree and a mound of debt. Have fun working at a gas station trying to pay that off.

Yes, but a lof of people have been baited into it.

[QUOTE="Optical_Order"]

[QUOTE="BranKetra"] Funny. Are you taking into account financial aid?

theone86

:lol:

Financial aid has completely f*cked a lot of people.

People who got "worthless degrees".

Yup, I'm sure the entire problem is their career choice and not at all the ridiculous costs of going to college. Did you know that the cost of going to a state college is ten times more than going to a community college? State college, we're talking the low end of the university scale here. It's also about thirty times more expensive than college is in France, thirty TIMES. Tuition costs are out of control, they've been rising at a rate higher than inflation for years.

You're mistaking the fact that I disagree with you.

[QUOTE="Maniacc1"]Eh... success depends on the drive and passion of the individual, not what ink on a piece of paper says. A degree by itself, whatever it is, is "useless." It's all in what you do with it that matters. ;)theone86

Communist.

[QUOTE="BranKetra"][QUOTE="Optical_Order"]

Poor people are able to get lots and lots of financial aid. If they don't have scholarships, they get to pay all that back.

If you get a degree in lets say, film, and you can't find a job, you still get to pay all of that back. Sometimes than can be a f*ck ton of money. So now you have a worthless degree and a mound of debt. Have fun working at a gas station trying to pay that off.

Optical_Order

Yes, but a lof of people have been baited into it.

Yes, children are often lied to with promises of a better life if you get a degree.

It's disgusting.

[QUOTE="BranKetra"][QUOTE="Optical_Order"]

Poor people are able to get lots and lots of financial aid. If they don't have scholarships, they get to pay all that back.

If you get a degree in lets say, film, and you can't find a job, you still get to pay all of that back. Sometimes than can be a f*ck ton of money. So now you have a worthless degree and a mound of debt. Have fun working at a gas station trying to pay that off.

Optical_Order

Yes, but a lof of people have been baited into it.

#13 wassup, of course im going to law school with it ^_^

I'm confused on a few, like history, couldn't you use that to get a job as a high school teacher, or a college professor, or some kind of muesem job, or someting on history channel?

[QUOTE="theone86"]

[QUOTE="Maniacc1"]Eh... success depends on the drive and passion of the individual, not what ink on a piece of paper says. A degree by itself, whatever it is, is "useless." It's all in what you do with it that matters. ;)Maniacc1

Communist.

Pitchfork? We...ahem...THEY issued you a party standard hammer and sickle for inciting general revolution, plus a really outdated printing press for which you had to find your own paper. If you're wielding a pitchfork it means you bought it with bourgeois dog money, what kind of a fifth column are you?

[QUOTE="Optical_Order"]

[QUOTE="BranKetra"] Yes they do. I'm sure many of them knew the risks. That's all I can say about that.Spitfirer

Yes, but a lof of people have been baited into it.

Yes, children are often lied to with promises of a better life if you get a degree.

It's disgusting.

Simply put, they scam people.

People who probably weren't going to be able to afford college or people who weren't really made out for college are getting thrown all of this money and are being told to go get that degree and are now in a world of sh*t because they can't pay their loans back.

I'm confused on a few, like history, couldn't you use that to get a job as a high school teacher, or a college professor, or some kind of muesem job, or someting on history channel?

Bardock47

Legitimate history teachers can't get a job on the History Channel. You need a degree from a less than reputable college, a weird haircut, and a penchant for alien conspiracy theories to work on the History Channel.

Nothing surprising on the list except for architecture.

[QUOTE="Bardock47"]

I'm confused on a few, like history, couldn't you use that to get a job as a high school teacher, or a college professor, or some kind of muesem job, or someting on history channel?

theone86

Legitimate history teachers can't get a job on the History Channel. You need a degree from a less than reputable college, a weird haircut, and a penchant for alien conspiracy theories to work on the History Channel.

[QUOTE="Optical_Order"]

[QUOTE="BranKetra"] Yes they do. I'm sure many of them knew the risks. That's all I can say about that.Spitfirer

Yes, but a lof of people have been baited into it.

Yes, children are often lied to with promises of a better life if you get a degree.

It's disgusting.

Yes, because all college degrees are equally worthless. Trying to build a generation that will improve science and technology is all a conspiracy.

Not surprised Fine Arts is number one. I would consider a few of the useless as long as you become a teacher.

[QUOTE="theone86"]

[QUOTE="Bardock47"]

I'm confused on a few, like history, couldn't you use that to get a job as a high school teacher, or a college professor, or some kind of muesem job, or someting on history channel?

Bardock47

Legitimate history teachers can't get a job on the History Channel. You need a degree from a less than reputable college, a weird haircut, and a penchant for alien conspiracy theories to work on the History Channel.

I know with most professors a specific degree in teaching isn't necessary, but you usually either have to have a post-grad degree or be in a post-grad program and some of the better jobs can take a whole lot of work and some luck to get into. A ton of college professors teach various classes at various schools to make their living. If you want to teach grade school or high school you usually have to have some specific teacher's certification I think, but a lot of colleges can teach you that concurrently.

[QUOTE="Optical_Order"]

[QUOTE="BranKetra"] Yes they do. I'm sure many of them knew the risks. That's all I can say about that.BranKetra

Yes, but a lof of people have been baited into it.

It's scattered across the internet, I'd encourage you to do your own research. It's fine if you don't believe me, I honestly just don't want to spend an hour trying to find all of the links for you.

here is a documentary I remember watching that went into pretty good detail though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ww4m8GUK69E

My two best friends want to be an architect and either a journalist or English major. They're screwed.

[QUOTE="Optical_Order"]

[QUOTE="BranKetra"] Funny. Are you taking into account financial aid?

theone86

:lol:

Financial aid has completely f*cked a lot of people.

People who got "worthless degrees".

Yup, I'm sure the entire problem is their career choice and not at all the ridiculous costs of going to college. Did you know that the cost of going to a state college is ten times more than going to a community college? State college, we're talking the low end of the university scale here. It's also about thirty times more expensive than college is in France, thirty TIMES. Tuition costs are out of control, they've been rising at a rate higher than inflation for years.

You must have terribly expensive state schools.

[QUOTE="theone86"]

[QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]

You could just refuse to pay.

BluRayHiDef

Can't write student loan debts off. Buy a house and default on the mortgage you can declare bankruptcy, not so with student debt. You could simply not pay, but it's going to murder your credit and then rape it, in that order.

After seven years, it falls off of your credit report.

Your wages and social security can be garnished for it, however.

I wouldn't consider anthropology and archaeology useless. They are useless in the fact that unless you get a Master's degree or PhD, you pretty much won't find a job in anything. Most archaeological digs are contract jobs and even those don't pay much. Not to mention, most archaeologists don't have the money to use proper equipment and need to use volunteers. What makes anthropology and archaeology useful is that they are important in the global spectrum of things. Too many multinational corporations go into foreign countries and piss off the locals by treating them like slaves with no rights and next-to-no pay to make a living. At least with anthropologists, they take the time to learn the language and culture, and listen to these people's concerns. Archaeology is incredibly important so we don't destroy our history as humans tend to do.

Meh, the degree is never useless if you know how you want to use it. Nothing useless about a journalism degree if you want to be a journalist or a drama/theater degree if you want to be an actor, or graphic design if you want to be a graphic designer. fidosim

[QUOTE="Spitfirer"]

[QUOTE="Optical_Order"]

Yes, but a lof of people have been baited into it.

Heisenderp

Yes, children are often lied to with promises of a better life if you get a degree.

It's disgusting.

Yes, because all college degrees are equally worthless. Trying to build a generation that will improve science and technology is all a conspiracy.

One, no matter wha the degree is in it will always improve your job prospects. You still may be underemployed, but in general you have a better chance of landing jobs and of being paid more than someone with the next degree down. Two, I find your implication that a dogmatic approach that focuses on math and science and berates everything else laughable. Science has always gone hand in hand with the fine arts going back to ancient times, some of the greatest scientists were also prolific philosophers. The idea is to create an environment that is conducive to learning, i.e. one that stimulates the mind in many ways, meaning an investment in fine arts. Three, a society with a single-minded focus is not a society I want to live in. Say we do become especially prolific in the sciences yet lose all our appreciation for art, what kind of a society is that? We're already closing museums, cutting endowments, and mocking people who pursue art as a career, this single-mindedness is a detriment to culture as a whole.

[QUOTE="Maniacc1"][QUOTE="theone86"]

Communist.

theone86

Pitchfork? We...ahem...THEY issued you a party standard hammer and sickle for inciting general revolution, plus a really outdated printing press for which you had to find your own paper. If you're wielding a pitchfork it means you bought it with bourgeois dog money, what kind of a fifth column are you?

[QUOTE="theone86"]

[QUOTE="Optical_Order"]

:lol:

Financial aid has completely f*cked a lot of people.

People who got "worthless degrees".

coolbeans90

Yup, I'm sure the entire problem is their career choice and not at all the ridiculous costs of going to college. Did you know that the cost of going to a state college is ten times more than going to a community college? State college, we're talking the low end of the university scale here. It's also about thirty times more expensive than college is in France, thirty TIMES. Tuition costs are out of control, they've been rising at a rate higher than inflation for years.

You must have terribly expensive state schools.

24 grand a year including books, tuition, living expenses, room and board, and fees, which is about ten times more than community college. I also take that back about France, it's closer to forty times more than what they pay.

ignored in planning for the future.

"ignored in planning for the future.

surrealnumber5

that's all the fun degrees, what's left? engineering? computers? bo-ring..Allicrombie

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[QUOTE="theone86"]

Yup, I'm sure the entire problem is their career choice and not at all the ridiculous costs of going to college. Did you know that the cost of going to a state college is ten times more than going to a community college? State college, we're talking the low end of the university scale here. It's also about thirty times more expensive than college is in France, thirty TIMES. Tuition costs are out of control, they've been rising at a rate higher than inflation for years.

theone86

You must have terribly expensive state schools.

24 grand a year including books, tuition, living expenses, room and board, and fees, which is about ten times more than community college. I also take that back about France, it's closer to forty times more than what they pay.

Ah, living expenses. I simply compare tuition, The rest of the stuff, IMO , shouldn't be compared lest including rent, groceries, textbooks and what not. State schools here (the good ones) run at about $11k in tuition, which is ~ 2.5 times the price of CC. I'm not pleased with the trend of Uni costs, atm.

Architecture. XD Holy christ, that's the biggest load of crap I've ever read. A slow market doesn't mean a degree is useless.

24 grand a year including books, tuition, living expenses, room and board, and fees, which is about ten times more than community college. I also take that back about France, it's closer to forty times more than what they pay.

theone86

I thought I have it bad with a £28k debt (£3k - £3.2k a year with maintenance costs from £3.5k to £4.1k, over four years).

If i were to start studying now, that would be an additoonal £24k, totalling in £52k debt.

But what you stated is atrocious. I can't believe that prices are that high.

[QUOTE="coolbeans90"]

[QUOTE="theone86"]

Yup, I'm sure the entire problem is their career choice and not at all the ridiculous costs of going to college. Did you know that the cost of going to a state college is ten times more than going to a community college? State college, we're talking the low end of the university scale here. It's also about thirty times more expensive than college is in France, thirty TIMES. Tuition costs are out of control, they've been rising at a rate higher than inflation for years.

theone86

You must have terribly expensive state schools.

24 grand a year including books, tuition, living expenses, room and board, and fees, which is about ten times more than community college. I also take that back about France, it's closer to forty times more than what they pay.

BRHD for OT-king 2012 because of this thread.

At least linguistics and computer science aren't there. :vghoklebutter

Comp sci is too $$ for that list.

And linguistics is too obscure.

/hipsterariel

*beans wonders if he should work full-time rather than take out loans*

jr/sr engineering courseload is the only thing causing hesitation.

And linguistics is too obscure.

coolbeans90

Irrelevant, I'll do what I want regardless of what some list says. College isn't just for getting a job after all.

As a mathematics and compurer science graduate with a high 2.2 and a 2.1 in many important modules such as my final year project, I can say with the utmost confidence that degrees alone are useless without connections and/or work experience. Even the sciency ones.

Spitfirer

Multiple internships is really what it takes now.

[QUOTE="BranKetra"]

[QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]

Sure knowledge is more important...when you're wrapped up in a sleeping bag, lying on a concrete sidewalk wondering how you're going to acquire your next meal.

BluRayHiDef

Unless you have scholarships and/ or grants that cover your entire tuition, you'll owe some of that aid back.

More people go to school on full rides than you expect, especially the elite schools many of them give out insane amounts of money, provided you can gain acceptance.

[QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]

[QUOTE="BranKetra"] Funny. Are you taking into account financial aid?

TacticalDesire

Unless you have scholarships and/ or grants that cover your entire tuition, you'll owe some of that aid back.

More people go to school on full rides than you expect, especially the elite schools many of them give out insane amounts of money, provided you can gain acceptance.

You could say the same about people who go to college with no scholarhips.

...Except the going to elite schools part.

[QUOTE="TacticalDesire"]

[QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]

Unless you have scholarships and/ or grants that cover your entire tuition, you'll owe some of that aid back.

Optical_Order

More people go to school on full rides than you expect, especially the elite schools many of them give out insane amounts of money, provided you can gain acceptance.

You could say the same about people who go to college with no scholarhips.

...Except the going to elite schools part.

The elite schools are also the ones with the highest yearly educational costs that many people like to quote from without realizing that only a small number pay that full price.

[QUOTE="Optical_Order"]

[QUOTE="TacticalDesire"]

More people go to school on full rides than you expect, especially the elite schools many of them give out insane amounts of money, provided you can gain acceptance.

TacticalDesire

You could say the same about people who go to college with no scholarhips.

...Except the going to elite schools part.

The elite schools are also the ones with the highest yearly educational costs that many people like to quote from without realizing that only a small number pay that full price.

Point being?

[QUOTE="TacticalDesire"]

[QUOTE="Optical_Order"]

You could say the same about people who go to college with no scholarhips.

...Except the going to elite schools part.

Optical_Order

The elite schools are also the ones with the highest yearly educational costs that many people like to quote from without realizing that only a small number pay that full price.

Point being?

Well certain users in this thread were discussing paying large sums of money for some of these degrees without taking into account a fuller picture of the college landscape.