Top Thirteen Most Useless Degrees

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#151 harashawn
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Depends on what you consider "useless." If you want a good office job, you better not get a degree in Fine Arts; and if you want to be an actor, don't get a degree in business. Both are useless in certain contexts.
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#152 Optical_Order
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[QUOTE="Optical_Order"]

[QUOTE="TacticalDesire"]

The elite schools are also the ones with the highest yearly educational costs that many people like to quote from without realizing that only a small number pay that full price.

TacticalDesire

Point being?

Well certain users in this thread were discussing paying large sums of money for some of these degrees without taking into account a fuller picture of the college landscape.

Certainly you don't believe it is only elite schools whose tuition/other costs are going up?

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#153 THE_DRUGGIE
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>Political Science and Government

eheheheheh

heh...

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#154 David719
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[QUOTE="coolbeans90"]

[QUOTE="theone86"]

Yup, I'm sure the entire problem is their career choice and not at all the ridiculous costs of going to college. Did you know that the cost of going to a state college is ten times more than going to a community college? State college, we're talking the low end of the university scale here. It's also about thirty times more expensive than college is in France, thirty TIMES. Tuition costs are out of control, they've been rising at a rate higher than inflation for years.

theone86

You must have terribly expensive state schools.

24 grand a year including books, tuition, living expenses, room and board, and fees, which is about ten times more than community college. I also take that back about France, it's closer to forty times more than what they pay.

Damn, I'm glad I went to Community College first.

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#155 TacticalDesire
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As far as the religion degree, I myself have experienced that it is difficult to find a job immediately after college with it, but I would not trade what I learned for anything.mindstorm

Exactly college is an experience for furthering and discovering ones' self rather than just grinding away trying to prepare for the real world. It is a time of exploration and new paths.

I can understand the appeal for wanting to earn a lot of money and I see why some people would choose degrees more likely to get jobs over those that are less likely to land a job, however it would have to be a very large sum of money for me to want to go through my life with a career I disliked.

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#156 TacticalDesire
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[QUOTE="TacticalDesire"]

[QUOTE="Optical_Order"]

Point being?

Optical_Order

Well certain users in this thread were discussing paying large sums of money for some of these degrees without taking into account a fuller picture of the college landscape.

Certainly you don't believe it is only elite schools whose tuition/other costs are going up?

Absolutely not, but when people talk about paying 50k/yr for a "philosophy or art degree" they're usually not quoting a price from a state school.

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#157 Sajo7
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"Useless" doesn't really seem like the appropriate word.
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#158 ShuLordLiuPei
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Useless degree. An oxymoron if there was ever one.

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#159 BluRayHiDef
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[QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]

[QUOTE="theone86"]

Can't write student loan debts off. Buy a house and default on the mortgage you can declare bankruptcy, not so with student debt. You could simply not pay, but it's going to murder your credit and then rape it, in that order.

coolbeans90

After seven years, it falls off of your credit report.

Your wages and social security can be garnished for it, however.

Social security is scewed anyway, and more than likely you'll have a low income job so you'll be able to avoid garnished wages.

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#160 limpbizkit818
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[QUOTE="theone86"]

[QUOTE="coolbeans90"]

You must have terribly expensive state schools.

David719

24 grand a year including books, tuition, living expenses, room and board, and fees, which is about ten times more than community college. I also take that back about France, it's closer to forty times more than what they pay.

Damn, I'm glad I went to Community College first.

24 grand for state school is a lot. It really depends where you go and what you want to do. Look at SUNY Binghamton in New York. School costs under $14,000 a year and is one of the largest feeders into the Big 4 accounting firms in the nation. You could go there, get a bachelors degree, and land a job in Manhattan right out of school making $55,000+. Lots of opportunities out there.
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#161 WiiCubeM1
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HA!

Mine's biology. I could go the science route or turn it around and go doctor. If I'm too stupid for neurosurgery, I'll just throw in a teaching degree. If nothing's hiring, I'll just go to some 3rd world country and study animals for a living. I'll be dirt poor, but I'll be traveling the world.

For me, a win-win.

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#162 markop2003
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Disagree on the liberal arts degrees. Most degrees grouped into the liberal arts stress analytical, critical thinking, research and writing skills.

Hardly useless in my opinion.

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The topic is most useless degrees not completely useless things, to be in the list they just have to be worse than the other degrees.[QUOTE="Jolt_counter119"]

But guys you don't understand it's more important to do what you love and learn things that you think are important in life even if it means living with your parent till your 40 and not having a job. It's better to waste thousands and thousands of dollars and land yourself in huge debt and not be able to pay it off, it's better to learn something fun and interesting instead of toughening up and doing something you find dull and boring for a few years to have a better chance at a great job where you will have the money to explore you're life interests.

Though I wouldn't call any degree useless and some on that list seemed out of place but yeah, music isn't the best choice of major.

You don't need to go to college or rack up debt to learn something fun...
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#163 mexicangordo
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Uhh people the list is Most useless degrees based on people getting a job from 2000-2012 as viewed from SCIENCE. In other words-anything that is not a Science Major and does not make a lot of money.

Stupid list, if you want to do something you love then just go do it. If you want to make money then pick a job that makes you a lot of money. I first got my associates degree in Music because I actually love it. I was a music Journalist for over 10 years and met a great deal of amazing bands and people, on top of that it was an amazing experience. Now I have a Bachelors degree in Hospitality Management while working on a BA in Business and I was offered Food and Beverage Coordinator for the Hyatt recently.

Usless/=/money. Its about the experience and what you as a professional make out of it.

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#164 deactivated-6127ced9bcba0
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Have to agree with surreal, the amount of butthurt in this thread is awesome.

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#165 Mafiree
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Have to agree with surreal, the amount of butthurt in this thread is awesome.

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Kind of reminds me of the bar seen in God Will Hunting. "You dropped a hundred and fifty grand on a blanking education you coulda got for a dollah fifty in late charges at the public library" It's kind of how I feel of the less technical degrees.
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#166 campzor
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commerical art/ graphics design film/video & photography journalism.. trololololol no
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#167 Funky_Llama
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I nearly did a music performance degree p. glad i didn't now
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#168 magnax1
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Not gonna watch, but if I had to guess.... Here are my top three.

1. Film

2. Philosophy

3. Art History.

Fightingfan

I don't have a link, but I read a couple of days ago that Art History is one of the most common degrees among the top 1% of earners.

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#169 anthonycg
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[QUOTE="Fightingfan"]

Not gonna watch, but if I had to guess.... Here are my top three.

1. Film

2. Philosophy

3. Art History.

magnax1

I don't have a link, but I read a couple of days ago that Art History is one of the most common degrees among the top 1% of earners.

I doubt that degree got them there...

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#170 magnax1
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[QUOTE="magnax1"]

[QUOTE="Fightingfan"]

Not gonna watch, but if I had to guess.... Here are my top three.

1. Film

2. Philosophy

3. Art History.

anthonycg

I don't have a link, but I read a couple of days ago that Art History is one of the most common degrees among the top 1% of earners.

I doubt that degree got them there...

Maybe. As I understand, it's a popular degree among the wealthy for whatever reason.

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#171 PiscesChick93
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#7 here (with the edition of Writing)

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#172 Kenny789
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Yeah Nursing, good to know it's not considered useless :P
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#173 kulmiye
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I'm failing my physics degree so I may turn out to be more "worthless" than those degrees.
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#174 poptart
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I say 45

Fuk right angles

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#175 drinkerofjuice
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I'm #8, and it's far from being useless. I don't really care though since I'll be pursuing a degree in media communications & film.
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#176 deactivated-5f9e3c6a83e51
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In other words, liberal arts. But hey they have an open mind when standing in the unemployment line. I kid, because I care.

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#178 kabphillie
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Based on friends that I've had, I think History should be higher on that list.
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#180 Teenaged
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Well... if Philip Defranco says it...

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#181 CptJSparrow
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Er, 'low profit turnaround' isn't the same thing as 'useless'. Having said that, you can understand why people question the investment of a bachelor's degree. If you're not making much more than someone with a high school diploma, well what's the point in getting into debt. But the world expects you to have one now, as per the 'trickle-down unemployment' effect mentioned in the thread yesterday. If it's worth the investment to you, and you can pay everything off, go for it. And don't forget you don't have to finish in four years.
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#182 FrozenLiquid
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Hahaha so true. Woe to people who thought tertiary study would get them a job.
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#183 deactivated-5c8e4e07d5510
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I don't see how architecture is useless. Unless we're talking bachelor's degrees that is... You need a Master's to do anything with architecture.
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#184 Lonelynight
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I want to get a degree in music.
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#185 Planeforger
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I did a double major in 3 and 9. Loved every minute of it, was exposed to a heap of new world views, and picked up a heap of useful studying/learning/group work skills.

My high passion for those degrees got me really great marks, which landed me a postgraduate placement in Australia's best law school...so I got the best of both worlds.

Would I call them useless? Definitely not, especially in conjunction with other degrees. Alone? I could have gotten a job in either - not the highest paying jobs, sure, but I'd have been travelling a lot or doing what I love. So I've got to entirely disagree with that list.

What about degrees like Forestry, or all of the ridiculously competitive ones that most people won't get decent jobs out of? They'd miss out on both the life-fulfilment *and* the decent salary prospects - they seem arguably more useless in my mind.

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[QUOTE="Spitfirer"]

As a mathematics and compurer science graduate with a high 2.2 and a 2.1 in many important modules such as my final year project, I can say with the utmost confidence that degrees alone are useless without connections and/or work experience. Even the sciency ones.

TacticalDesire

Multiple internships is really what it takes now.

Internships help for sure, but they're not absolutely essential. A friend of mine got a job 3 months after graduating, and all the job experience he's had was tutoring freshmen/sophomore level CS classes and working at Burger King. And this is in Michigan, the worst state in the US as far as unemployment goes (last I checked anyway). He was brilliant, but had no qualifications aside from his Bachelor's degree.
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#187 Wasdie  Moderator
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Architecture? How is it useless?

Drakes_Fortune

That was my first thought about that list.

I guess those jobs could have been shifted over to people with engineering degrees.

As for the rest of them, I can see why those are all on the list. Most require more schooling (to get your masters or PHD) and require a lot of luck. Lots of be in the right place at the right time in the right region kind of thing.

To say you *can't* find a career in those fields is wrong, but it's extremely regional. Somebody getting a fine arts major from the school I graduated from wouldn't stand a chance unless they went onto a much more recognized graduate program. Even then, competition is much more tough.

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#188 rawsavon
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Architecture on the list, psychology not ...wtf
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#189 Wasdie  Moderator
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Architecture on the list, psychology not ...wtfrawsavon

Psychology can get you into pre law or into higher business schools.

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#190 rawsavon
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[QUOTE="rawsavon"]Architecture on the list, psychology not ...wtfWasdie

Psychology can get you into pre law or into higher business schools.

so can lots of sh*t on that list

post smarter, not harder wasdie

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#191 Omni-Slash
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Very rarely is it important what the degree is in as opposed to the effort and work you put into the degree....there are more subject specific degrees...but unless you get a degree in the arts you can turn any degree into a profitable career....
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#192 deactivated-5f9e3c6a83e51
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[QUOTE="thegerg"][QUOTE="sonicare"]

In other words, liberal arts. But hey they have an open mind when standing in the unemployment line. I kid, because I care.

Things like math and sciences (a few of the liberal arts) aren't nearly as useless as you seem to think.

Math and science degrees really arent liberal arts degress. Those are more technical oriented.
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[QUOTE="sonicare"][QUOTE="thegerg"] Things like math and sciences (a few of the liberal arts) aren't nearly as useless as you seem to think. thegerg
Math and science degrees really arent liberal arts degress. Those are more technical oriented.

They may be technically oriented, but they are still liberal arts.

Liberal arts degrees have some math and science courses, but I think he was referring to majors. I've never heard that a biology, chemistry or math major is a liberal arts major. I could be mistaken as some classification systems are screwy, but usually liberal arts degrees are not focused on math and science. Regardless, my initial post was kind of a joke and hardly a declaration on the validiy of college majors. If I've offended all the art history, pottery, and english majors, my apologies.
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#195 TwighlightBlade
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I'm with music, but I'll be writing song's, composing, and forming a band. And honestly it's not about the money. It's about doing what I love and making God famous.

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#196 deactivated-5f9e3c6a83e51
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I'm with music, but I'll be writing song's, composing, and forming a band. And honestly it's not about the money. It's about doing what I love and making God famous.

TwighlightBlade
isnt god already famous?
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#198 deactivated-5f9e3c6a83e51
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[QUOTE="sonicare"][QUOTE="thegerg"] They may be technically oriented, but they are still liberal arts. thegerg
Liberal arts degrees have some math and science courses, but I think he was referring to majors. I've never heard that a biology, chemistry or math major is a liberal arts major. I could be mistaken as some classification systems are screwy, but usually liberal arts degrees are not focused on math and science. Regardless, my initial post was kind of a joke and hardly a declaration on the validiy of college majors. If I've offended all the art history, pottery, and english majors, my apologies.

I don't think any of them are offended, but I do think many people do have a misconception about what the liberal arts are.

They are art classes that are liberal.
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#199 branketra
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[QUOTE="BranKetra"][QUOTE="Optical_Order"]

Yes, but a lof of people have been baited into it.

Optical_Order

Got any proof?

It's scattered across the internet, I'd encourage you to do your own research. It's fine if you don't believe me, I honestly just don't want to spend an hour trying to find all of the links for you.

here is a documentary I remember watching that went into pretty good detail though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ww4m8GUK69E

I have done research. I was just wondering what you personally found. Interesting video.
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#200 surrealnumber5
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[QUOTE="rawsavon"]Architecture on the list, psychology not ...wtf

architecture: design is done by computers and feasibility by engineers. those that go into "architecture" these days are getting a poor degree in digital design. the market is way over saturated and the utility of the degree is quickly loosing its trade skill as software improves.