Twenty Year Old Male Sexually Assaulted by Two Girls at McDonalds

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#151 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="0Tyler0"]What... He's complaining? Maybe they were ugly. double_decker
According to the article the police said that from the tapes he seemed to be enjoying himself and the attention of the girls. IMO I think maybe he got mad they stole some of his CD's and instead of just accusing them of that tried to get them in even more serious trouble by claiming he was assualted as well. Although that's just what I gathered from reading the article, maybe he was willing at first but then they took it took far. Nobody would know for sure except those that were there and witnessed it. But either way the girls conduct was out of line and not acceptable for the workplace whether he was willing or not and they should be suspended or fired at the minimum.

That's what I said. You are starting to think like me. Be afraid.....be very afraid.:o

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#152 double_decker
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That's what I said. You are starting to think like me. Be afraid.....be very afraid.:o

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Must be all the beer we both consume :lol: I'm just surprised to see myself actually debating about something, that sure doesn't happen every day. :P
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#153 shaunk89
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[QUOTE="shaunk89"]

i'd agree with joshrock...the law is generally framed in such a way as to make it very difficult for a man to be the victim of sexual assault by a woman. In the UK (where I live) it's actually a legal impossibility for a man to be the victim of rape. Sure a guy can fight back if he feels he is the victim of sexual harassment, but he would then generally be either not believed with regards to the prior sexual assault, or arrested for assault & battery without mitigation. the fact is that social mores tell us that men simply can't be the victim of a sexual attack. you're free to disagree, but i would defy you to present evidence of sufficiently identical sex assault cases where a male victim is given the same credibility as a female one.

And I would tend to side with Theokoth too....you MAY be required to retreat, but teh duty to retreat is by and large confined to quite specific circumstances. If you have to use force while making said retreat, that will also be justified. By and large, reasonable use of force to protect yourself, others, or your property is accepted as an exculpatory defence at law for pretty much any crime. sure, it varies in the fine detail, but as a whole, around the world the judge/jury is required to look at the defendant's conduct and ask if it was reasonable in all the circumstances. if it was, its all kosher...

LJS9502_basic

I disagree with the assumptions here. First...sexual assault is hard to prove no matter which gender claims the assault. When it comes to the law in these cases the evidence has to be more than he said/she said or juries tend to not believe. Plus, the defense is allowed some leeway in discrediting the accuser. I think we all know sexual assaults occur. Some cases are justified. But many are not taken seriously. If one ever knew anyone attacked the attitude wouldn't be so cavaliar about this subject.

As I said before...theo is advocating force and that is not how the law works.

I don't really understand how that is relevant to what I said, but you are nevertheless 100% right. Sexual assault has one of the lowest conviction rates of any crime, despite being one of the most prevalent crimes in modern society. My point was simply that (certainly in the UK, and i imagine to a degree in the USA too) the legal framework in terms of the evidential requirements you correctly mentioned as being necessary, are very female orientated. They become exponentially more difficult to present in cases where the victim is male. Case in point, in the UK, rape is defined as penile penetration of any orifiice (disgustingly clinical, no?), thus rendering it a total legal impossibility for any woman to be convicted of rape. at most, they can be convicted of assault by penetration, if they use an....implement...of some kind.

The simple fact remains, all this aside, is that insufficient numbers of sexual assault victims come forward with their claims, due to fear of social stigma amongst otehr things. But teh social stigma attributed to male victims is vastly greater, and therefore very few ever come forward. sad, but true.

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#154 shaunk89
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[QUOTE="shaunk89"]

Indeed...I think you're losing the plot somewhat here mate... I'm beginning to regret siding with you.

I don't think anyone thinks all women are angels, there are obviously exceptions to the rule. My point would be that society still views a man reacting violently to violence perpetrated upon him by a woman as total anathema....which is wrong. But I wouldn't go any further than that.

LJS9502_basic

No the law doesn't. It's treated the same. I think you are confusing societies comments with the law.

um....i know. I never once mentioned the law in that comment. because i was commenting on society :S

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#155 The_AI
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[QUOTE="Deihjan"]

[QUOTE="redfield_137"]

Jeez, some guys have all the luck!

marluxia101

Only in Russia can a robber get raped by a hairdresser. And only in America a mcdonalds costumer gets sexually assaulted.

go Olga :lol:

Holy... O_O

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#156 0Tyler0
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[QUOTE="0Tyler0"]What... He's complaining? Maybe they were ugly. double_decker
According to the article the police said that from the tapes he seemed to be enjoying himself and the attention of the girls. IMO I think maybe he got mad they stole some of his CD's and instead of just accusing them of that tried to get them in even more serious trouble by claiming he was assualted as well. Although that's just what I gathered from reading the article, maybe he was willing at first but then they took it took far. Nobody would know for sure except those that were there and witnessed it. But either way the girls conduct was out of line and not acceptable for the workplace whether he was willing or not and they should be suspended or fired at the minimum.

Yeah I have to say I agree
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#157 RenegadePatriot
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Well maybe he should think about going through the drive thru next time.
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#158 lilasianwonder
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Awww man thats terrible. He wasn't even able to finish his meal.

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#159 dhyce
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That wasn't a very happy meal at all.

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#160 10thwonder
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Burglarized? Does that mean that they stole his Big Mac?Engrish_Major

I think they meant Hamburglarized :P And I would totally love to be sexually assaulted by two teenage girls whilst devouring a Big Mac, that's like throwing blueberries in my pancakes, adding something I love to something I love :)

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#161 deactivated-5e836a855beb2
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[QUOTE="Engrish_Major"]Burglarized? Does that mean that they stole his Big Mac?10thwonder

I think they meant Hamburglarized :P And I would totally love to be sexually assaulted by two teenage girls whilst devouring a Big Mac, that's like throwing blueberries in my pancakes, adding something I love to something I love :)

i don't believe that. Being sexually assaulted can't be fun. It has to be demeaning and emasculating.
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#162 Shhadow_Viper
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That wasn't a very happy meal at all.

dhyce
Ziiing!
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#163 10thwonder
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[QUOTE="10thwonder"]

[QUOTE="Engrish_Major"]Burglarized? Does that mean that they stole his Big Mac?Jandurin

I think they meant Hamburglarized :P And I would totally love to be sexually assaulted by two teenage girls whilst devouring a Big Mac, that's like throwing blueberries in my pancakes, adding something I love to something I love :)

i don't believe that. Being sexually assaulted can't be fun. It has to be demeaning and emasculating.

I guess I'm the only one who has had fantasies about this and who deep down inside would like nothing more than to be used by a woman for her own twisted needs :P

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#164 Shhadow_Viper
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[QUOTE="10thwonder"]

[QUOTE="Engrish_Major"]Burglarized? Does that mean that they stole his Big Mac?Jandurin

I think they meant Hamburglarized :P And I would totally love to be sexually assaulted by two teenage girls whilst devouring a Big Mac, that's like throwing blueberries in my pancakes, adding something I love to something I love :)

i don't believe that. Being sexually assaulted can't be fun. It has to be demeaning and emasculating.

It most certainly is. (demeaning and emasculating)

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#165 Shhadow_Viper
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[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="10thwonder"]

I think they meant Hamburglarized :P And I would totally love to be sexually assaulted by two teenage girls whilst devouring a Big Mac, that's like throwing blueberries in my pancakes, adding something I love to something I love :)

10thwonder

i don't believe that. Being sexually assaulted can't be fun. It has to be demeaning and emasculating.

I guess I'm the only one who has had fantasies about this and who deep down inside would like nothing more than to be used by a woman for her own twisted needs :P

It's nice as a fantasy but once it happens the fantasy is gone.
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#166 10thwonder
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[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="10thwonder"]

I think they meant Hamburglarized :P And I would totally love to be sexually assaulted by two teenage girls whilst devouring a Big Mac, that's like throwing blueberries in my pancakes, adding something I love to something I love :)

Shhadow_Viper

i don't believe that. Being sexually assaulted can't be fun. It has to be demeaning and emasculating.

It most certainly is. (demeaning and emasculating)

Are you speaking from experience? If so, I apologize, I was just trying to get a rise out of folks on here, I admit it would suck if the "attackers" weren't the Hawaiian Tropics swimsuit team or the girl of your dreams.

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#167 ZookGuy
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That's like something that would happen in Reno 911...
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#168 Shhadow_Viper
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[QUOTE="Shhadow_Viper"]

[QUOTE="Jandurin"] i don't believe that. Being sexually assaulted can't be fun. It has to be demeaning and emasculating.10thwonder

It most certainly is. (demeaning and emasculating)

Are you spoeaking from experience? If so, I apologize, I was just trying to get a rise out of folks on here, I admit it would suck if the attackers weren't the Hawaiian Tropics swimsuit team or the girl of your dreams.

Unfortunately I am, but I recognize your intent to joke around and I'm not out to spoil the party..
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#169 10thwonder
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Unfortunately I am, but I recognize your intent to joke around and I'm not out to spoil the party.. Shhadow_Viper

My bad dude. You're not spoiling the party, just giving us a reality check.

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#170 Jfisch93
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I love how sexist the law is. I thank the sexist men from long ago, karma is *****

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#171 ramboturd72
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That wasn't a very happy meal at all.

dhyce

I lol'd

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#172 johnbrutus
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I have been harassed by women before as well, there is not much a decent man can do in that scenario.

Shhadow_Viper
Are you proud of that.
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#173 pygmahia5
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thats hilarious actually haha.
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#174 avatar_genius
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Why is this funny?

Would it be funny if two guys were picking on one girl?

So why is it funny when two girls pick on one guy?

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#175 Shhadow_Viper
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[QUOTE="Shhadow_Viper"]

I have been harassed by women before as well, there is not much a decent man can do in that scenario.

johnbrutus
Are you proud of that.

I am proud of myslef for not succumbing to the urge to lash out at them physically, but I am not proud to have been harassed.
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#176 Nerd_Man
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This reminds me of that old South Park episode where Ike had hots for his teacher, and when it was reported to the police that he was having sex with a teacher, they had nothing to say but "niceee..." while getting turned on by the idea. I bet that's how the deputies responded in this case, too.

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#177 gamengineer
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Were the girls drunk? Shameless creatures. Even animals have a bit of shame. God sent them as humans and see what happened to them. Devil turned them into s3x hungry beastlings!
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#178 12345678ew
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I have been harassed by women before as well, there is not much a decent man can do in that scenario.

Shhadow_Viper
sure there is, if they're hot, make a bond-esque comment and leave, if they're not, punch them. i don't classify man and woman, but person i'd go out with and person i wouldn't (no dudes are in the would category, before you say it. it's simply an excuse to be rude to annoying girls)
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#179 thegendra
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[QUOTE="Engrish_Major"]Burglarized? Does that mean that they stole his Big Mac?df853
Yeah. They were hamburglars.

lol xD
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#180 finesse-gamer
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nice.

honestly though, why is it that only women can be sexually assaulted?

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#181 Kenny789
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That wasn't a very happy meal at all.

dhyce

I bet he enjoyed his free toy till it got out of control.

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#182 XilePrincess
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i dislike the double standard here, but the "i didn't even get to finish my meal" line was hilarious.
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#183 krunkmastax
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Were they hot?
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#184 krunkmastax
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nice.

honestly though, why is it that only women can be sexually assaulted?

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Blame society.
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#185 BIOSHOCKER98
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damn, the flirting part would be ok for me but after they bit the guy and got into his car stealing CD's i would have been pissed if that happend to me..
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#186 gago-gago
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Now that's what I call a Happy Meal.

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#187 deactivated-5b31d3729c1fa
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mcdonalds encourages this:P