UK Government effectively bans creationism in free schools

Scumbag Britain

The British Humanist Association (BHA) has precluded the teaching [of creationism], as an evidence-based view or theory, of any view or theory that is contrary to established scientific and/or historical evidence and explanations is prohibited

What this means is, no school, even private and free is allowed to teach creationism as part of their curriculum to students.

This is a big step for human advancement, and I could only dream of such a thing happening in the Dark Ages of America.

Creationism is a joke and has no place in an academic environment, unless we're teaching why it's ridiculous.

I see nothing wrong with it being taught in a religion and philosophy lesson, just keep it away from science.brendanhunt1

Well there are some atheists around here who would love to just eradicate religion all together. Especially Christianity.

I think government is bad for education. Government shouldn't have any investment or involvement in social policies involving education. Governments shouldn't have authority on education. Education should be the authority on education and supported by public interest.

an academic community wouldn't need to ban specific forms of thought, it would simply exclude them by not recognizing them as significant.

This is good. But I hope it doesn't mean not teaching religion. It's an important subject to understand the world and its people.

Teaching religion as a form of cultural enlightenment rather than indoctrination is a good thing as long as it's kept out of science as it currently seems to be the case. The ban's unnecessary as Christianity was never forced on us.

Atheist here but I definitely see something wrong with it being banned in private schools. Government education is one thing.

Nice.

Atheist here but I definitely see something wrong with it being banned in private schools. Government education is one thing.

Pikdum

[QUOTE="StRaItJaCkEt36"]I think government is bad for education. Government shouldn't have any investment or involvement in social policies involving education. Governments shouldn't have a authority on education education should be the authority on education and supported by public interestimaps3fanboy

Federal eduction isn't necessarily a good thing. Especially in a democracy, if the fed has control over education they can teach them what ever they want to. In America I personally want Federal education to be done away with and leave it up to the state.

[QUOTE="brendanhunt1"]I see nothing wrong with it being taught in a religion and philosophy lesson, just keep it away from science.Wasdie

Well there are some atheists around here who would love to just eradicate religion all together. Especially Christianity.

It must be an American thing. I don't recall ever being taught anything vaguely religious in science. I could be wrong, but I think it's the same for other schools in England too.

EDIT: The post below explains it. I missed the "effectively" part.

it's not like knowing (or believing ) it turns you into a bad person or hurts anyone. The_RedLion

Nobody said it does. This has nothing to do with morals. It's about setting educational standards.

They did not specifically ban creationism (though it's ban as a byproduct was intended) they banned the teaching of arguments that doesn't comply with scientific standards for evidence. They basically put Science over religion into law.

Compared to the U.S., Americans accept scientific theory so long as it doesn't conflict with religion. In the end, religion still holds a place above science.

[QUOTE="themajormayor"][QUOTE="imaps3fanboy"] Education needs to have standards.. gov't definitely needs to be involved in some capacity..ghoklebutter

FACK U MAN! u a commy rnt you!?

Blue-Sky

Americans accept scientific theory so long as it doesn't conflict with religion. In the end, religion still holds a place above science.

Blue-Sky

I think government is bad for education. Government shouldn't have any investment or involvement in social policies involving education. Governments shouldn't have authority on education. Education should be the authority on education and supported by public interest.

an academic community wouldn't need to ban specific forms of thought, it would simply exclude them by not recognizing them as significant.

StRaItJaCkEt36

That's great news, I'm fine with teaching creationism in a religious class or even a philosophy class when it's in the right context, but to even allude to it being scientific will only cause damage.

It's sad how it's been nearly 100 years and America hasn't advanced that much farther from the circus that was the Scopes Trial.

UK takes one step forwards... and the US tries to take 150 steps backwards.foxhound_fox

Add a zero to that number if you elect Rick Perry.

[QUOTE="Blue-Sky"] Americans accept scientific theory so long as it doesn't conflict with religion. In the end, religion still holds a place above science.

StRaItJaCkEt36

Most Public/Government funded schools in the U.S. don't teach creationism either thanks to the first amendment. But there's nothing stopping private schools and many religious-orientented ones from doing so.

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What this means is, no school, even private and free is allowed to teach creationism as part of their curriculum to students.Blue-Sky

Great job England too bad this will never happen in the USimaps3fanboy

But you can't teach creationism in the US...

But you can't teach creationism in the US...Austindro

I'm pretty sure creationism was outlawed in the 80s here in the U.S. via Supreme Court

[QUOTE="imaps3fanboy"]Great job England too bad this will never happen in the USAustindro

But you can't teach creationism in the US...

First of all, I'd just like to point out that outside of a few faith schools, teaching creationism in science is all but unheard of in the UK. Secondly, does this just apply to these ridiculous "free schools" Michael Gove is so keen on, or does itconcern other schools as well?

Creationism has no place in public schools, but private schools should be able to teach what the fck they want.