US soldier goes on rampage in Afghanistan killing 16 innocent civilians

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#51 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="BossPerson"]Funny, all the conservatives of OT suddenly turn into libs when something happens to one of their own.....BossPerson

Who are these conservatives?

My mistake, I said something stupid, I deleted the post

That's a start....now delete a few more including the OP.
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#52 Pirate700
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[QUOTE="BossPerson"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] Who are these conservatives?

LJS9502_basic

My mistake, I said something stupid, I deleted the post

That's a start....now delete a few more including the OP.

:lol: Agreed.

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#53 BossPerson
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[QUOTE="BossPerson"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] Who are these conservatives?

LJS9502_basic

My mistake, I said something stupid, I deleted the post

That's a start....now delete a few more including the OP.

The OP? Are you serious? Why? Does it make someone look bad?

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#54 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="BossPerson"]My mistake, I said something stupid, I deleted the postBossPerson

That's a start....now delete a few more including the OP.

The OP? Are you serious? Why? Does it make someone look bad?

Just you....
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[QUOTE="BossPerson"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] That's a start....now delete a few more including the OP.LJS9502_basic

The OP? Are you serious? Why? Does it make someone look bad?

Just you....

By reporting something?

also: ot's sophistry against the guile is as good as ever.

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#56 BossPerson
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[QUOTE="BossPerson"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] That's a start....now delete a few more including the OP.LJS9502_basic

The OP? Are you serious? Why? Does it make someone look bad?

Just you....

We've come to a point where there can be no criticisms of anything to do with the United States army without a bunch of delusional patriots crying......I didnt even criticize the military in this thread.

Also, what if my afghan example occurred? Should he be in a mental hopsital, or should he be in life imprisonment?

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#57 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="BossPerson"]The OP? Are you serious? Why? Does it make someone look bad?

BossPerson

Just you....

We've come to a point where there can be no criticisms of anything to do with the United States army without a bunch of delusional patriots crying......I didnt even criticize the military in this thread. Also, what if my afghan example occurred? Should he be in a mental hopsital, or should he be life imprisonment?

First...this was not the action of the US Army. It was the action of a person who had a breakdown. They are NOT the same thing. Second....I don't recall anyone saying mental breakdowns ONLY happen to the US soldiers. However, that is what you choose to make a thread about and that is what people are addressing. Third...the fact that you REFUSE to accept that these breakdowns happen shows a clear bias on your part.

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#58 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="BossPerson"]The OP? Are you serious? Why? Does it make someone look bad?

Victorious_Fize

Just you....

By reporting something?

also: ot's sophistry against the guile is as good as ever.

Apparently you post before reading....
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#59 BossPerson
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[QUOTE="BossPerson"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] Just you....LJS9502_basic

We've come to a point where there can be no criticisms of anything to do with the United States army without a bunch of delusional patriots crying......I didnt even criticize the military in this thread. Also, what if my afghan example occurred? Should he be in a mental hopsital, or should he be life imprisonment?

First...this was not the action of the US Army. It was the action of a person who had a breakdown. They are NOT the same thing. Second....I don't recall anyone saying mental breakdowns ONLY happen to the US soldiers. However, that is what you choose to make a thread about and that is what people are addressing. Third...the fact that you REFUSE to accept that these breakdowns happen shows a clear bias on your part.

Breakdowns happen, i get it. I never said that this was a military operation, it obviously had nothing to do with the army, but the guy was a soldier. Also, you still havent addressed my afghan example. Should he be treated like an ill patient? or a terrorist?
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Woo...I can't believe people are actually trying to defend a murderer. He should at least be court martialed(spelling?). Even though I believe he should get the death penalty. The guy clearly has some issues.
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#61 Xx_Socrates_xX
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[QUOTE="Xx_Socrates_xX"][QUOTE="BossPerson"]No one's fault? give me a break........BossPerson
What LJ said... It just happened due to the circumstances he was in. Watching all that sh*t. It messes with your head, which wasn't his fault. If you want to be a typical human being and blame someone then blame the Taliban. They're the reason the war started.

What if a afghan man who lost his whole family in a US strike walked onto a base and killed 15 soldiers? Is it not his fault?

You're missing the point... This man could not control his actions.
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#62 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="BossPerson"]We've come to a point where there can be no criticisms of anything to do with the United States army without a bunch of delusional patriots crying......I didnt even criticize the military in this thread. Also, what if my afghan example occurred? Should he be in a mental hopsital, or should he be life imprisonment?BossPerson

First...this was not the action of the US Army. It was the action of a person who had a breakdown. They are NOT the same thing. Second....I don't recall anyone saying mental breakdowns ONLY happen to the US soldiers. However, that is what you choose to make a thread about and that is what people are addressing. Third...the fact that you REFUSE to accept that these breakdowns happen shows a clear bias on your part.

Breakdowns happen, i get it. I never said that this was a military operation, it obviously had nothing to do with the army, but the guy was a soldier. Also, you still havent addressed my afghan example. Should he be treated like an ill patient? or a terrorist?

Let's see...in the post above you mentioned the US Army. You also said you don't believe the soldier had a breakdown. Which means you are dishonest now. And I did address that with my posts. Why not read them over and actually figure out what I said if it alludes you.
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[QUOTE="Xx_Socrates_xX"][QUOTE="BossPerson"][QUOTE="Xx_Socrates_xX"] What LJ said... It just happened due to the circumstances he was in. Watching all that sh*t. It messes with your head, which wasn't his fault. If you want to be a typical human being and blame someone then blame the Taliban. They're the reason the war started.

What if a afghan man who lost his whole family in a US strike walked onto a base and killed 15 soldiers? Is it not his fault?

You're missing the point... This man could not control his actions.

Well, that's for investigators to find out. Also, it takes a decent amount of willpower to purposely leave the base with a weapon and walk around different houses in village killing people.
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#64 LJS9502_basic
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Woo...I can't believe people are actually trying to defend a murderer. He should at least be court martialed(spelling?). Even though I believe he should get the death penalty. The guy clearly has some issues.MgamerBD
Woo....I can't believe you'd say he has some issues and think criminal proceedings are the best way to go rather than you know...help me.
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#65 Xx_Socrates_xX
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="BossPerson"]The OP? Are you serious? Why? Does it make someone look bad?

BossPerson

Just you....

We've come to a point where there can be no criticisms of anything to do with the United States army without a bunch of delusional patriots crying......I didnt even criticize the military in this thread.

Also, what if my afghan example occurred? Should he be in a mental hopsital, or should he be in life imprisonment?

Delusional patriots? You are accusing the U.S of everything. Why do people see the U.S government as some ominous, mysterious force? People just love to point fingers.
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#66 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="Xx_Socrates_xX"][QUOTE="BossPerson"]What if a afghan man who lost his whole family in a US strike walked onto a base and killed 15 soldiers? Is it not his fault?BossPerson
You're missing the point... This man could not control his actions.

Well, that's for investigators to find out. Also, it takes a decent amount of willpower to purposely leave the base with a weapon and walk around different houses in village killing people.

No it doesn't. And when the brain isn't functioning properly people do unusual....and yes sometimes deadly....things. We do not treat those with mental problems the same as we treat those without in the US at least. Perhaps your country doesn't show mercy.
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[QUOTE="MgamerBD"]Woo...I can't believe people are actually trying to defend a murderer. He should at least be court martialed(spelling?). Even though I believe he should get the death penalty. The guy clearly has some issues.LJS9502_basic
Woo....I can't believe you'd say he has some issues and think criminal proceedings are the best way to go rather than you know...help me.

You don't think he should have criminal proceedings brought against him?
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[QUOTE="MgamerBD"]Woo...I can't believe people are actually trying to defend a murderer. He should at least be court martialed(spelling?). Even though I believe he should get the death penalty. The guy clearly has some issues.LJS9502_basic
Woo....I can't believe you'd say he has some issues and think criminal proceedings are the best way to go rather than you know...help me.

You just killed 16 civilians. Not 1? or 2?. But you went out your way to mow down 16 innocents. Its pretty hard to want to help you no matter what situation you are in. Killing is not some small feat. That is a massacre...
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#69 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="BossPerson"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] Just you....Xx_Socrates_xX

We've come to a point where there can be no criticisms of anything to do with the United States army without a bunch of delusional patriots crying......I didnt even criticize the military in this thread.

Also, what if my afghan example occurred? Should he be in a mental hopsital, or should he be in life imprisonment?

Delusional patriots? You are accusing the U.S of everything. Why do people see the U.S government as some ominous, mysterious force? People just love to point fingers.

He's biased but refuses to admit it.
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#70 Xx_Socrates_xX
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[QUOTE="Xx_Socrates_xX"][QUOTE="BossPerson"]What if a afghan man who lost his whole family in a US strike walked onto a base and killed 15 soldiers? Is it not his fault?BossPerson
You're missing the point... This man could not control his actions.

Well, that's for investigators to find out. Also, it takes a decent amount of willpower to purposely leave the base with a weapon and walk around different houses in village killing people.

In the article, it already stated that he had a mental breakdown so YEAH the investigators already found that out.

You obviously do not understand what it is like to go insane like that, so I'm just going to stop this arguement. Feel free to try, LJ,

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[QUOTE="BossPerson"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] First...this was not the action of the US Army. It was the action of a person who had a breakdown. They are NOT the same thing. Second....I don't recall anyone saying mental breakdowns ONLY happen to the US soldiers. However, that is what you choose to make a thread about and that is what people are addressing. Third...the fact that you REFUSE to accept that these breakdowns happen shows a clear bias on your part.

LJS9502_basic

Breakdowns happen, i get it. I never said that this was a military operation, it obviously had nothing to do with the army, but the guy was a soldier. Also, you still havent addressed my afghan example. Should he be treated like an ill patient? or a terrorist?

Let's see...in the post above you mentioned the US Army. You also said you don't believe the soldier had a breakdown. Which means you are dishonest now. And I did address that with my posts. Why not read them over and actually figure out what I said if it alludes you.

I mentioned the army....but I never said that this was a military operation. The fact that he is in the army is only important because of how the war affected him and because he has access to the means to carry out his idea. And no, you havent addressed my example, all you said was "Second....I don't recall anyone saying mental breakdowns ONLY happen to the US soldiers" I want to hear it directly from you though? Should an afghan man who does the same thing on a military base after losing his entire family to an American attack (even if it is an accident) be treated as a criminal? or a patient in need of treatment?

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#72 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="MgamerBD"]Woo...I can't believe people are actually trying to defend a murderer. He should at least be court martialed(spelling?). Even though I believe he should get the death penalty. The guy clearly has some issues.MgamerBD
Woo....I can't believe you'd say he has some issues and think criminal proceedings are the best way to go rather than you know...help me.

You just killed 16 civilians. Not 1? or 2?. But you went out your way to mow down 16 innocents. Its pretty hard to want to help you no matter what situation you are in. Killing is not some small feat. That is a massacre...

Good to know you have all the answers to mental breakdowns doctor.
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#73 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="BossPerson"]Breakdowns happen, i get it. I never said that this was a military operation, it obviously had nothing to do with the army, but the guy was a soldier. Also, you still havent addressed my afghan example. Should he be treated like an ill patient? or a terrorist?BossPerson

Let's see...in the post above you mentioned the US Army. You also said you don't believe the soldier had a breakdown. Which means you are dishonest now. And I did address that with my posts. Why not read them over and actually figure out what I said if it alludes you.

I mentioned the army....but I never said that this was a military operation. The fact that he is in the army is only important because of how the war affected him and because he has access to the means to carry out his idea. And no, you havent addressed my example, all you said was "Second....I don't recall anyone saying mental breakdowns ONLY happen to the US soldiers" I want to hear it directly from you though? Should an afghan man who does the same thing on a military base after losing his entire family to an American attack (even if it is an accident) be treated as a criminal? or a patient in need of treatment?

You mentioned the army because you have a CLEAR anti US bias. Period. You might think you fool people but you are only fooling the lazy and stupid that don't read or understand what they read.
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What's that innocent part mean?
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[QUOTE="Xx_Socrates_xX"][QUOTE="BossPerson"]We've come to a point where there can be no criticisms of anything to do with the United States army without a bunch of delusional patriots crying......I didnt even criticize the military in this thread.

Also, what if my afghan example occurred? Should he be in a mental hopsital, or should he be in life imprisonment?

LJS9502_basic

Delusional patriots? You are accusing the U.S of everything. Why do people see the U.S government as some ominous, mysterious force? People just love to point fingers.

He's biased but refuses to admit it.

You mean biased, right? I'm not being a grammar nazi, just wanted to make sure that's what you meant.

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[QUOTE="BossPerson"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] Just you....Xx_Socrates_xX

We've come to a point where there can be no criticisms of anything to do with the United States army without a bunch of delusional patriots crying......I didnt even criticize the military in this thread.

Also, what if my afghan example occurred? Should he be in a mental hopsital, or should he be in life imprisonment?

Delusional patriots? You are accusing the U.S of everything. Why do people see the U.S government as some ominous, mysterious force? People just love to point fingers.

When the hell did I accuse the US of anything? find one post where I said the military or the government is at fault. All I said is that the soldier is at fault.
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Atleast your media can't blame this on muslims........or can it?
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#78 the_ChEeSe_mAn2
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This case once again illustrates the dire need to improve the mental health services in the US military. The soldier most likely snapped and went on the rampage because he probably had mental problems that were not treated. Even if he was to face a court-martial, he would probably end up being locked up in a mental institution. If he WAS completely sane and knew what he was doing, he should ether get a life sentence or the death penalty. Until we know more details, it's hard to arrive to a conclusion. Either way this is a tragedy that will ultimately harm the West's interests in Afghanistan.
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Xx_Socrates_xX"] Delusional patriots? You are accusing the U.S of everything. Why do people see the U.S government as some ominous, mysterious force? People just love to point fingers. Xx_Socrates_xX

He's biased but refuses to admit it.

You mean biased, right? I'm not being a grammar nazi, just wanted to make sure that's what you meant.

I don't get it. We both spelled it the same way.:?
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[QUOTE="BossPerson"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Let's see...in the post above you mentioned the US Army. You also said you don't believe the soldier had a breakdown. Which means you are dishonest now. And I did address that with my posts. Why not read them over and actually figure out what I said if it alludes you.LJS9502_basic

I mentioned the army....but I never said that this was a military operation. The fact that he is in the army is only important because of how the war affected him and because he has access to the means to carry out his idea. And no, you havent addressed my example, all you said was "Second....I don't recall anyone saying mental breakdowns ONLY happen to the US soldiers" I want to hear it directly from you though? Should an afghan man who does the same thing on a military base after losing his entire family to an American attack (even if it is an accident) be treated as a criminal? or a patient in need of treatment?

You mentioned the army because you have a CLEAR anti US bias. Period. You might think you fool people but you are only fooling the lazy and stupid that don't read or understand what they read.

Nice work proving anything. If I am going to mention this story, I obviously have to mention the fact that he was a US soldier. Is that not a key fact to the case? Give me one post where I demonstrated an anti-US bias? And you are yet to directly answer my example.......but you will probably just call my a US hater again and tell me to read your posts again where you supposedly answered it.
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I can forsee many body bags with U.S soldiers in them being sent to their families after the attack, the Taliban troops will take advantage of this "breakdown" and recruit many more afghans into their guerrilla war efforts some of them could be brainwashed into suicide bombings as far as i'm concerned. This is isn't going down well.

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Atleast your media can't blame this on muslims........or can it?conistant
They don't belong to us.
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="BossPerson"]I mentioned the army....but I never said that this was a military operation. The fact that he is in the army is only important because of how the war affected him and because he has access to the means to carry out his idea. And no, you havent addressed my example, all you said was "Second....I don't recall anyone saying mental breakdowns ONLY happen to the US soldiers" I want to hear it directly from you though? Should an afghan man who does the same thing on a military base after losing his entire family to an American attack (even if it is an accident) be treated as a criminal? or a patient in need of treatment?

BossPerson

You mentioned the army because you have a CLEAR anti US bias. Period. You might think you fool people but you are only fooling the lazy and stupid that don't read or understand what they read.

Nice work proving anything. If I am going to mention this story, I obviously have to mention the fact that he was a US soldier. Is that not a key fact to the case? Give me one post where I demonstrated an anti-US bias? And you are yet to directly answer my example.......but you will probably just call my a US hater again and tell me to read your posts again where you supposedly answered it.

That wasn't the post I was talking about. ONE soldier snapped and you mentioned the US ARMY.....as in the entire military force.

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What's that innocent part mean?KiIIyou
That they did nothing to provoke him....
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[QUOTE="Xx_Socrates_xX"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]He's biased but refuses to admit it.LJS9502_basic

You mean biased, right? I'm not being a grammar nazi, just wanted to make sure that's what you meant.

I don't get it. We both spelled it the same way.:?

Oh, I thought I saw an L. :P

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[QUOTE="BossPerson"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] You mentioned the army because you have a CLEAR anti US bias. Period. You might think you fool people but you are only fooling the lazy and stupid that don't read or understand what they read.LJS9502_basic

Nice work proving anything. If I am going to mention this story, I obviously have to mention the fact that he was a US soldier. Is that not a key fact to the case? Give me one post where I demonstrated an anti-US bias? And you are yet to directly answer my example.......but you will probably just call my a US hater again and tell me to read your posts again where you supposedly answered it.

That wasn't the post I was talking about. ONE soldier snapped and you mentioned the US ARMY.....as in the entire military force.

I mentioned the US army because of this was an afghan man (nice work avoiding my example) you wouldnt be saying the same thing.
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#87 KiIIyou
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[QUOTE="KiIIyou"]What's that innocent part mean?BossPerson
That they did nothing to provoke him....

I just thought it sounded superfluous. :3
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#88 AgentA-Mi6
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[QUOTE="KiIIyou"]What's that innocent part mean?BossPerson
That they did nothing to provoke him....

What did women and children of Berlin did to the Russian troops during world war 2 and look up what was done to them, this is part of every war. Some people just snap after years of deployment and combat.
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#89 Xx_Socrates_xX
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Here's my answer to the Afghan man thing:

If we was a terrorist or simply seeking revenge than yes he should be punished.

If we was insane and could not control his actions, he should be put in a mental institution and helped.

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#90 BossPerson
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Here's my answer to the Afghan man thing:

If we was a terrorist or simply seeking revenge than yes he should be punished.

If we was insane and could not control his actions, he should be put in a mental institution and helped.

Xx_Socrates_xX
Well determining insanity is the issue here.
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="MgamerBD"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] Woo....I can't believe you'd say he has some issues and think criminal proceedings are the best way to go rather than you know...help me.

You just killed 16 civilians. Not 1? or 2?. But you went out your way to mow down 16 innocents. Its pretty hard to want to help you no matter what situation you are in. Killing is not some small feat. That is a massacre...

Good to know you have all the answers to mental breakdowns doctor.

If I was having a mental breakdown...it wouldn't matter if I mowed down 2 or 10 people I've already snapped at that point, in fact I'm pretty sure the shock of it all would make it hard to stop until you completely fall apart. Weird using first person in that but whatever didn't want anyone trying to say I'm trying to define someone else's breakdown. Still think the soldier should be given the same treatment that an Afghan citizen would've received if he shot 15 US soldiers or civilians...a bullet to the head and labeled a terrorist. Hilarious that this soldier gets pretty much a free pass for murdering 15 people (anything other than death is a free pass imo when you take the lives of others.)
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#92 Xx_Socrates_xX
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[QUOTE="Xx_Socrates_xX"]

Here's my answer to the Afghan man thing:

If we was a terrorist or simply seeking revenge than yes he should be punished.

If we was insane and could not control his actions, he should be put in a mental institution and helped.

BossPerson
Well determining insanity is the issue here.

...And you obviously do not understand the concept, so that is where I leave.
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If we was insane and could not control his actions, he should be put in a mental institution and helped.

Xx_Socrates_xX

If a an afghan immigrant had an emotional break down a shot down 16 U.S civilians in U.S soil he wouldn't stand a chance to get sent to a mental institution, he'd get life imprisonment or death penalty depending on the state, cold hard truth.

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#94 BossPerson
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[QUOTE="BossPerson"][QUOTE="Xx_Socrates_xX"]

Here's my answer to the Afghan man thing:

If we was a terrorist or simply seeking revenge than yes he should be punished.

If we was insane and could not control his actions, he should be put in a mental institution and helped.

Xx_Socrates_xX
Well determining insanity is the issue here.

...And you obviously do not understand the concept, so that is where I leave.

No I do understand the concept. But if an afghan man opened fire on a US base, i doubt the people defending the soldier in this case would offer the same sympathy to the afghan man as well.
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#95 conistant
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[QUOTE="Xx_Socrates_xX"]

Here's my answer to the Afghan man thing:

If we was a terrorist or simply seeking revenge than yes he should be punished.

If we was insane and could not control his actions, he should be put in a mental institution and helped.

BossPerson
Well determining insanity is the issue here.

True but if he had been a muslim then he would have been labelled a terrorist with a number of media reports stating he was attending dance parties of "hardcore imams".
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#96 Xx_Socrates_xX
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[QUOTE="Xx_Socrates_xX"]If we was insane and could not control his actions, he should be put in a mental institution and helped.

AgentA-Mi6

If a an afghan immigrant had an emotional break down a shot down 16 U.S civilians in U.S soil he wouldn't stand a chance to get sent to a mental institution, he'd get life imprisonment or death penalty depending on the state, cold hard truth.

Yeah, I know. That's the way it is, but we can't change that. Now do I think that is right? No, I do not.
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#97 Xx_Socrates_xX
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[QUOTE="Xx_Socrates_xX"][QUOTE="BossPerson"]Well determining insanity is the issue here.BossPerson
...And you obviously do not understand the concept, so that is where I leave.

No I do understand the concept. But if an afghan man opened fire on a US base, i doubt the people defending the soldier in this case would offer the same sympathy to the afghan man as well.

...See above post
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="BossPerson"]Nice work proving anything. If I am going to mention this story, I obviously have to mention the fact that he was a US soldier. Is that not a key fact to the case? Give me one post where I demonstrated an anti-US bias? And you are yet to directly answer my example.......but you will probably just call my a US hater again and tell me to read your posts again where you supposedly answered it.BossPerson

That wasn't the post I was talking about. ONE soldier snapped and you mentioned the US ARMY.....as in the entire military force.

I mentioned the US army because of this was an afghan man (nice work avoiding my example) you wouldnt be saying the same thing.

I've seen news reports (linked on here) which reference Afghan Soldier or the like, I don't think anyones particularly biased here. War is a horrible thing so it's plausible that he did indeed have a total breakdown.

However regarding this incident, apparently he was seen burning the bodies after the event, which could surely make a temporary insanity plea difficult?

Regardless, he's going to be locked up no doubt - and anyone trying to link this event to particular soldiers as a whole (not pointing fingers) is as bigoted as someone blaming all Muslims for terrorism or other silly generalisations.

Edit:http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/03/11/us-afghanistan-civilians-idUSBRE82A02V20120311?irpc=932

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Treat him the same way you treat other crazies that one day flip out and start a massacre. He's no different than Jared Lee Loughner, the Columbine shooters, or other people like that in my eyes.
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#100 BossPerson
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[QUOTE="BossPerson"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] That wasn't the post I was talking about. ONE soldier snapped and you mentioned the US ARMY.....as in the entire military force.

Ravensmash

I mentioned the US army because of this was an afghan man (nice work avoiding my example) you wouldnt be saying the same thing.

I've seen news reports (linked on here) which reference Afghan Soldier or the like, I don't think anyones particularly biased here. War is a horrible thing so it's plausible that he did indeed have a total breakdown.

However regarding this incident, apparently he was seen burning the bodies after the event, which could surely make a temporary insanity plea difficult?

Regardless, he's going to be locked up no doubt - and anyone trying to link this event to particular soldiers as a whole (not pointing fingers) is as bigoted as someone blaming all Muslims for terrorism or other silly generalisations.

Edit:http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/03/11/us-afghanistan-civilians-idUSBRE82A02V20120311?irpc=932

Well if this is a group of soldiers, this changes everything