Violent Protests in the UK

[QUOTE="halo1399"]

Brits need to learn that the government can't always hold there hand with everything, my tuition for college is much, much more expensive than what the British Parliament is raising it to, these protests are getting extremely violent and to be honest I think its hysterical. Same thing with France, they raised the retirement age 2 years and people try and overthrow the government...Thank God I live in the US

ace-of-spades93

[QUOTE="ace-of-spades93"][QUOTE="halo1399"]

Brits need to learn that the government can't always hold there hand with everything, my tuition for college is much, much more expensive than what the British Parliament is raising it to, these protests are getting extremely violent and to be honest I think its hysterical. Same thing with France, they raised the retirement age 2 years and people try and overthrow the government...Thank God I live in the US

brendanhunt1

In Scotland it is. In Sweden it is even though the taxes are high but the services are equally great.

Just a bunch of spoiled brats who think they deserve someone else's money.

aransom

[QUOTE="halo1399"]

Brits need to learn that the government can't always hold there hand with everything, my tuition for college is much, much more expensive than what the British Parliament is raising it to, these protests are getting extremely violent and to be honest I think its hysterical. Same thing with France, they raised the retirement age 2 years and people try and overthrow the government...Thank God I live in the US

ace-of-spades93

Well your first mistake was trusting a politician.

[QUOTE="aransom"]

Just a bunch of spoiled brats who think they deserve someone else's money.

ace-of-spades93

I wonder how much revenue London's tourist industry will lose as a consequence of the rioting and violence.

:|

They uncapped fees and the average £3,000 per year in fees tripled to £9,000... the average loan would end up being £40-50,000 for anyone looking to go to university, why wouldn't you protest?... Job's are hard enough to find as it is right now and prevent some people from getting degrees only worsen the situation.

Brits need to learn that the government can't always hold there hand with everything, my tuition for college is much, much more expensive than what the British Parliament is raising it to, these protests are getting extremely violent and to be honest I think its hysterical. Same thing with France, they raised the retirement age 2 years and people try and overthrow the government...Thank God I live in the US

halo1399

This isn't simply Student's wanting the government to hold their hand. The Liberal Democrat leader Nick Clegg signed pledges to Students that guaranteed that if the Liberal Democrats got into power they'd prevent a rise in tuition fees. Now that they're in the Coalition government Nick Clegg is now backing a rise in tuition fees. This is why the Students are angry. If the Lib Dems had kept to their word and voted against a rise in fees then there'd probably be no protests right now.

Here he is telling us that he would remove fees if voted in.

[QUOTE="-Snooze-"]

[QUOTE="SpartanMSU"]

1) Being able to buy guns has nothing to do with entitlements...In the UKs case, the government is reducing handouts, in you're hypothetical case, the US is disregarding a constitutional right. Completely different.

2) Regardless, I didn't mention Americans in my post so...yeaaah...

SpartanMSU

I'm simply drawing parralels between two different societys. You think it's silly that brits expect help paying for Uni. We think it's silly Americans can stock pile assult rifles.

If American where refused the right to do so im sure they'd be riots(As youve said it's a constitutional right) Brits would probably still view it as childish, and in fact quite ridiculous. As if everyone needs guns ...

No, I think it's silly that ANYONE expects someone else to pay for their education (an investment in YOURSELF). :|

And I think it's silly that a supposed superpower wouldnt want to invest in its future ...

You vote for something and then why you voted them doesn't happen, it is much worse than if we didn't vote this way.

It's kinda like all the Obamahate in the US...

[QUOTE="SpartanMSU"]

[QUOTE="-Snooze-"]

I'm simply drawing parralels between two different societys. You think it's silly that brits expect help paying for Uni. We think it's silly Americans can stock pile assult rifles.

If American where refused the right to do so im sure they'd be riots(As youve said it's a constitutional right) Brits would probably still view it as childish, and in fact quite ridiculous. As if everyone needs guns ...

-Snooze-

No, I think it's silly that ANYONE expects someone else to pay for their education (an investment in YOURSELF). :|

And I think it's silly that a supposed superpower wouldnt want to invest in its future ...

You can invest in your future...no ones preventing you from doing that...

[QUOTE="-Snooze-"]

[QUOTE="SpartanMSU"]

No, I think it's silly that ANYONE expects someone else to pay for their education (an investment in YOURSELF). :|

SpartanMSU

And I think it's silly that a supposed superpower wouldnt want to invest in its future ...

You can invest in your future...no ones preventing you from doing that...

Brits need to learn that the government can't always hold there hand with everything, my tuition for college is much, much more expensive than what the British Parliament is raising it to, these protests are getting extremely violent and to be honest I think its hysterical. Same thing with France, they raised the retirement age 2 years and people try and overthrow the government...Thank God I live in the US

halo1399

Can't the UK just hold a referendum on this? I'm sure students want lower tuitions, but someone has to pay those tutition fees. The government gets its money from the people, so just find out if the people want to pay to keep tuition low. That way you can assess what your society values. Generally, most countries put emphasis on education, so I'd expect that people may be willing to pay more tax in the UK to see lower tuition prices.

sonicare

[QUOTE="sonicare"]

Can't the UK just hold a referendum on this? I'm sure students want lower tuitions, but someone has to pay those tutition fees. The government gets its money from the people, so just find out if the people want to pay to keep tuition low. That way you can assess what your society values. Generally, most countries put emphasis on education, so I'd expect that people may be willing to pay more tax in the UK to see lower tuition prices.

markop2003

If that's true then would the conservatives still hold a referendum on proportional representation? Did the coalition sign an official agreement on it?

If that's true then would the conservatives still hold a referendum on proportional representation? Did the coalition sign an official agreement on it?

Former_Slacker

[QUOTE="SpartanMSU"]

[QUOTE="Ultimas_Blade"]

Co-signed brother. F*** these austerity-minded imbeciles. If they would just TAX the money these corporations and CEOssiphoned out of the middle c1ass at the correct levels and REGULATE the Financial and Energymarkets like they should be.

Instead of protecting the troves people have amassed, they need to invest in education, health, and technology.

EmpCom

Who do you think corporations pass the tax onto? The consumer...

My god, the amount of economic and business illiterate people on this forum is astounding.

And his assumptions about businesses passing costs onto customers is what's wrong with conservative economic thought today. If you operate under the assumption that Businesses will pass the cost onto consumers, why tax at all? First and foremost they have to regulate CEO pay. It is OUTRAGEOUS and Executive pay has only become more egregious and contemptable during this recession. You cannot allow yourself to become beholden to people who would rather fire workers over reducing their own pay, you'll only create a business cycle that relies solely on extraction and desperation.

You can regulate business practices enough to ensure that corporations make a modest profit while paying their workers fair wagesand the government fair taxes. That's how soceity works. If we had stricter finance industryregulation and healthcare regulation (like Canada's for example), do you think we'd still be in this recession? Canada's financial situation seems a hell of alot better than the US, and they have :shock: socialized medicine :shock:

His misunderstanding of government and regulation is laughable. And I don't care whathe's majoring in ashe'd just as soon lie about anything else. When that is your only defense against someone's ideas/argument (ie "And I'm right because I go to university XYZ") you've lost the debate.