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#1 Makemap
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What are your thought on worldwide banning of Anime porn?

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This anime and manga a poison to the world drama started with Dr. Ethel Quayle a psychology lecturer in University of Cork (Ireland) publishing works exposing the evils of the internet against children - basically porn-bashing, which were embraced by UNICEF to fuel their campaign against child abuse and promotion of child welfare blah blah blah.

Since kids are getting smarter and accessing the net easier. I like it gone.

UN Statistics for 2000: Rapes per 100,000 people:
Canada 78.08 "Simple Possession", Loli Manga Banned
Australia 77.79 "Simple Possession", Loli Manga De Jure Banned
USA 32.05 "Simple Possession", Loli Manga Banned (Constitutionally Invalid)
Sweden 24.47 "Simple Possession", Loli Manga Banned
UK 16.23 "Simple Possession", Loli Manga, BDSM to be Banned
France 14.36 "Simple Possession"
S. Korea 12.98 "Simple Possession"
Germany 9.12 "Simple Possession"
Russia 4.78
Taiwan 4.08
Japan 1.78 "Simple Possession" (Just introduced)

(Extra) Phillipines "Simple Possesion" Loli Mange Banned

*Third column contains the anti-loli laws in place for each country

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#2 vidplayer8
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If there are kids in it, then yes it should be banned. Thats some weird ****.

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#3 ps3wizard45
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I'd be heart broken if they took away my Hentai! :cry:

J/k I could careless :P

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Isn't it a banning of depictions of underage girls in Hentai? Well i'm not effected, so i couldn't care less.
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#5 mattisgod01
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i was going to form an inteligent response....but i don't even know what this anime thing you speak of (Eyes dart side to side suspiciously)

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#6 Famiking
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No, it shouldn't be banned. Why people are so concerned about teh eval porn is beyond me. The legal age to buy porn IMO should be reduced to 15, 12 with parental consent. It's pretty sad that you can have sex around that age but can't buy porn... And this is coming from a non-porn watcher.
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#7 LOL-Fail
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Isn't it a banning of depictions of underage girls in Hentai? Well i'm not effected, so i couldn't care less. AAllxxjjnn
they arent real though you could say they are ageless. no one is being explouted. people have to much time on their hands...no pun
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#8 super_mario_128
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The worldwide banning of anime would be better.
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#9 Gigagamer2
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this isnt a worldwide banning of anime pron in general, its focusing on one or two types. And i get the impression that most of these governments rushed a decision for fear of looking bad, especially as UNICEF have been putting pressure on the western world about this. This issue is very complicated though

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#10 mindstorm
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No, it shouldn't be banned. Why people are so concerned about teh eval porn is beyond me. The legal age to buy porn IMO should be reduced to 15, 12 with parental consent. It's pretty sad that you can have sex around that age but can't buy porn... And this is coming from a non-porn watcher.Famiking
Well, I don't think people that age should be having pre-marital sex to begin with...
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#11 Jfisch93
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The **** with the little kids is freakin disgusting it should be banned.

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#12 AcronymnsFTW
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When it portrays children in sex it should be illegal. If it portrays adults then I don't see anything wrong with it.
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I think it's a good move. Hentai is usually centred around the rape of children, so it should most definately be banned.

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#14 LOL-Fail
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[QUOTE="Famiking"]No, it shouldn't be banned. Why people are so concerned about teh eval porn is beyond me. The legal age to buy porn IMO should be reduced to 15, 12 with parental consent. It's pretty sad that you can have sex around that age but can't buy porn... And this is coming from a non-porn watcher.mindstorm
Well, I don't think people that age should be having pre-marital sex to begin with...

maybe not in your world. but that is the reality
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#15 markop2003
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They're banning lolicon not all hentai.... I wouldn't mind what's normally called loli disappearing but banning it could easily be misunderstood as banning anyone deemed "underage" in such publications as if you watch anime you may have noticed that the official ages and looks don't always match up so it's a slippery slope that could lead to a lot being wrongly banned.
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#16 Mercenary848
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That is porn with girl drawn in it, I can see why. it is nasty.

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#17 mindstorm
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[QUOTE="mindstorm"][QUOTE="Famiking"]No, it shouldn't be banned. Why people are so concerned about teh eval porn is beyond me. The legal age to buy porn IMO should be reduced to 15, 12 with parental consent. It's pretty sad that you can have sex around that age but can't buy porn... And this is coming from a non-porn watcher.LOL-Fail
Well, I don't think people that age should be having pre-marital sex to begin with...

maybe not in your world. but that is the reality

I live in a different world? I didn't realize there were no ordinary people who disagreed with pre-marital sex. o.0
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#18 markop2003
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[QUOTE="Famiking"]No, it shouldn't be banned. Why people are so concerned about teh eval porn is beyond me. The legal age to buy porn IMO should be reduced to 15, 12 with parental consent. It's pretty sad that you can have sex around that age but can't buy porn... And this is coming from a non-porn watcher.

I agree but i'm not sure about the "12 with parental consent part", who would actually ask they're parent if they could buy some porn?
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This reminds me I need to delete my history.

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#20 LOL-Fail
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[QUOTE="LOL-Fail"][QUOTE="mindstorm"] Well, I don't think people that age should be having pre-marital sex to begin with... mindstorm
maybe not in your world. but that is the reality

I live in a different world? I didn't realize there were no ordinary people who disagreed with pre-marital sex. o.0

well the teen pregnancy rate speaks for itself. pre marital sex is a trend that isnt going away
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[QUOTE="Famiking"]No, it shouldn't be banned. Why people are so concerned about teh eval porn is beyond me. The legal age to buy porn IMO should be reduced to 15, 12 with parental consent. It's pretty sad that you can have sex around that age but can't buy porn... And this is coming from a non-porn watcher.mindstorm
Well, I don't think people that age should be having pre-marital sex to begin with...

how do you know they aren't married?

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#22 Famiking
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[QUOTE="Famiking"]No, it shouldn't be banned. Why people are so concerned about teh eval porn is beyond me. The legal age to buy porn IMO should be reduced to 15, 12 with parental consent. It's pretty sad that you can have sex around that age but can't buy porn... And this is coming from a non-porn watcher.mindstorm
Well, I don't think people that age should be having pre-marital sex to begin with...

Same, but it's not in my position to impose my religious beliefs on other people. Also, banning something almost never works. Like the TC said, countries that have more forms of porn banned have higher rape rates. Countries that have more drugs illegalized have higher rates of abuse. Countries that have massive petrol tax have a high %age of car usage. The thing is, you're supposed to PULL people toward an image, not push. You're supposed to be promoting healthy eating, taking care of your body, positive self-image (virginity), promote bike usage and public transport as opposed to restricting car use. Promotion of good > Restriction of bad.
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#23 JustPlainLucas
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Well... I'm definately one who believes in art being allowed to exist, and although I can see how some would think that children hentai (or lolis or whatever you call it) may promote fetishs that could lead into a crime being committed, I stil think outright banning is wrong. There are perfectly normal people that keep that to a fetish level only, just like there are perfectly normal people who play violent games and keep the violence on a fantasy level only, as many people try to say violent games promote violent behavior.
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Child porn should be banned, regardless of how it's presented.

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[QUOTE="mindstorm"][QUOTE="Famiking"]No, it shouldn't be banned. Why people are so concerned about teh eval porn is beyond me. The legal age to buy porn IMO should be reduced to 15, 12 with parental consent. It's pretty sad that you can have sex around that age but can't buy porn... And this is coming from a non-porn watcher.LOL-Fail
Well, I don't think people that age should be having pre-marital sex to begin with...

maybe not in your world. but that is the reality

Opinions do not dictate reality......
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#26 black_cat19
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It's not "anime porn", the term is hentai, and according to the article, it's not hentai they're banning, it's lolicon, they're different things.

Either way I think that's absolutely ridiculous. Lolicon doesn't turn people into child abusers/molesters, just like violent video games don't turn people into serial killers. It may be disgusting to some, but drawings of fictional characters are not child porn no matter how you look at them, no one is getting hurt or abused, and it really doesn't harm anyone.

Whether people find it acceptable or not is a whole different issue, but there isn't any real reason to ban it or make it illegal. Unicef should focus on real issues like starbing children in africa or REAL child pornography instead of wasting time and money on what is little more than a moral issue. I also find it hilarious that, according to the article, there's more cases of child abuse in countries where loli is banned than in japan where it's perfectly legal.

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#27 Tht1Guy7780
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Yeah, I think that stuff is weird.

Anyway, premarital sex is a choice. Just like abortion. Every living thing is given the freedom of free will, and that shouldnt be taken from anyone.

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[QUOTE="mindstorm"]I live in a different world? I didn't realize there were no ordinary people who disagreed with pre-marital sex. o.0LOL-Fail
well the teen pregnancy rate speaks for itself. pre marital sex is a trend that isnt going away

That doesn't make it right however.
Same, but it's not in my position to impose my religious beliefs on other people. Also, banning something almost never works. Like the TC said, countries that have more forms of porn banned have higher rape rates. Countries that have more drugs illegalized have higher rates of abuse. Countries that have massive petrol tax have a high %age of car usage. The thing is, you're supposed to PULL people toward an image, not push. You're supposed to be promoting healthy eating, taking care of your body, positive self-image (virginity), promote bike usage and public transport as opposed to restricting car use. Promotion of good > Restriction of bad.Famiking
I agree in some respects but there are times which I think we are supposed to simply say no. Should William Carey not have said no to the people of India when they killed widows? Though I agree with your point, I just think it's often taken farther than it should. A balance of the two really needs to be in place as opposed to just one extreme.
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Couldn't care less.

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#30 mindstorm
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[QUOTE="mindstorm"][QUOTE="Famiking"]No, it shouldn't be banned. Why people are so concerned about teh eval porn is beyond me. The legal age to buy porn IMO should be reduced to 15, 12 with parental consent. It's pretty sad that you can have sex around that age but can't buy porn... And this is coming from a non-porn watcher.finesse-gamer

Well, I don't think people that age should be having pre-marital sex to begin with...

how do you know they aren't married?

I can't say I know of many 12 year olds that are married within my country.....
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Pre marital sex is wrong:shock:

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#32 foxhound_fox
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You should change the title, it is lolicon manga, not hentai in general they wish to ban.

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they can ban it for all i care, i havent seen one before and really dont plan too

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[QUOTE="mindstorm"] I agree in some respects but there are times which I think we are supposed to simply say no. Should William Carey not have said no to the people of India when they killed widows? Though I agree with your point, I just think it's often taken farther than it should. A balance of the two really needs to be in place as opposed to just one extreme.

The killing of people is always wrong (unless we're arguing the death penalty). Porn however is not evil, unless you have religious and/or cultural reasons to be against it.
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[QUOTE="mindstorm"] I agree in some respects but there are times which I think we are supposed to simply say no. Should William Carey not have said no to the people of India when they killed widows? Though I agree with your point, I just think it's often taken farther than it should. A balance of the two really needs to be in place as opposed to just one extreme.Famiking
The killing of people is always wrong (unless we're arguing the death penalty). Porn however is not evil, unless you have religious and/or cultural reasons to be against it.

So child porn, porn involving self-mutilation, bestiality and incest are perfectly okay unless you're religious?

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I don't get what they're doing haven't they seen the message that says: "All the characters in this story are over 18 years old", so even if they look like kids they're legal. :P I can see why they want to remove "rape" and "loli" from the media, though, they can do what they please.
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Ahh great, if they ban it, someone is going to protest and get it unban sometime in the future and call it uncensor revolution bs age.

I thought the world should be progressing not regressing by banning a form art :)

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Ahh great, if they ban it, someone is going to protest and get it unban sometime in the future and call it uncensor revolution bs age.

I thought the world should be progressing not regressing by banning a form art :)

darkjounin

So your ok with Lolicon? Thats sick man.......

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As long as they dont try to like, prevent nudity in serious anime and light ecchi in comedies and stuff like that it doesnt matter, but that hardcore nasty stuff should have never been concieved in the first place >.> lol

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[QUOTE="Famiking"][QUOTE="mindstorm"] I agree in some respects but there are times which I think we are supposed to simply say no. Should William Carey not have said no to the people of India when they killed widows? Though I agree with your point, I just think it's often taken farther than it should. A balance of the two really needs to be in place as opposed to just one extreme.Theokhoth

The killing of people is always wrong (unless we're arguing the death penalty). Porn however is not evil, unless you have religious and/or cultural reasons to be against it.

So child porn, porn involving self-mutilation, bestiality and incest are perfectly okay unless you're religious?

No, because they hurt other people. Lolicon however does not hurt anyone.
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I think t is kind of disgusting :O
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[QUOTE="darkjounin"]

Ahh great, if they ban it, someone is going to protest and get it unban sometime in the future and call it uncensor revolution bs age.

I thought the world should be progressing not regressing by banning a form art :)

anime depicting children having sex is not what I'd call "art"
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[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

[QUOTE="Famiking"] The killing of people is always wrong (unless we're arguing the death penalty). Porn however is not evil, unless you have religious and/or cultural reasons to be against it.Famiking

So child porn, porn involving self-mutilation, bestiality and incest are perfectly okay unless you're religious?

No, because they hurt other people. Lolicon however does not hurt anyone.

Self-mutilation hurts other people? Bestiality hurts other people?

Child porn (lolicon or otherwise) should not be encouraged (regardless of who is hurt in the process) and it is not society that should have to mold to the wants and whims of pedophiles.

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[QUOTE="darkjounin"]

Ahh great, if they ban it, someone is going to protest and get it unban sometime in the future and call it uncensor revolution bs age.

I thought the world should be progressing not regressing by banning a form art :)

Hungry_Jello

So your ok with Lolicon? Thats sick man.......

It's fiction, they're drawings of fictional characters. Can you name one reason why loli should be banned other than because you think it's unacceptable?

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reduced to 15, 12 with parental consent.

umm im not buying into watching into a shop and buying shower room girls with my parent

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#46 Theokhoth
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[QUOTE="Hungry_Jello"]

[QUOTE="darkjounin"]

Ahh great, if they ban it, someone is going to protest and get it unban sometime in the future and call it uncensor revolution bs age.

I thought the world should be progressing not regressing by banning a form art :)

black_cat19

So your ok with Lolicon? Thats sick man.......

It's fiction, they're drawings of fictional characters. Can you name one reason why loli should be banned other than because you think it's unacceptable?

The fictional characters in question are children. Pedophilia is illegal in most civilised places.

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[QUOTE="Famiking"][QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

So child porn, porn involving self-mutilation, bestiality and incest are perfectly okay unless you're religious?

Theokhoth

No, because they hurt other people. Lolicon however does not hurt anyone.

Self-mutilation hurts other people? Bestiality hurts other people?

Child porn (lolicon or otherwise) should not be encouraged (regardless of who is hurt in the process) and it is not society that should have to mold to the wants and whims of pedophiles.

It's not child porn, no child is being hurt, abused, or even engaging in sexual behaviour, for that matter... And it doesn't turn people into pedophiles or child molesters, that's the same logic as saying violent video games are only played by murderers and turn people into serial killers...

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#48 Famiking
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Just like how marijuana is illegalized right? The US has higher rates of use than the Netherlands, Japan has one of the lowest rape rates in the world, yet if you ask any Westerner on their opinion of the country, you get stuff like "the most perverted country on the planet, panties in vending machines, tentacle rape!!" - it has been proven time and time again, stricter laws leads to the opposite of its intentions. Self-mutilation - you are hurting yourself. I would decriminalize it though, unless these people are putting themselves in hospitals. Bestiality - You are doing it with an animal without its consent.
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#49 black_cat19
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Just like how marijuana is illegalized right? The US has higher rates of use than the Netherlands, Japan has one of the lowest rape rates in the world, yet if you ask any Westerner on their opinion of the country, you get stuff like "the most perverted country on the planet, panties in vending machines, tentacle rape!!" - it has been proven time and time again, stricter laws leads to the opposite of its intentions. Self-mutilation - you are hurting yourself. I would decriminalize it though, unless these people are putting themselves in hospitals. Bestiality - You are doing it with an animal without its consent.Famiking

Agreed.

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#50 Theokhoth
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Just like how marijuana is illegalized right? The US has higher rates of use than the Netherlands, Japan has one of the lowest rape rates in the world, yet if you ask any Westerner on their opinion of the country, you get stuff like "the most perverted country on the planet, panties in vending machines, tentacle rape!!" - it has been proven time and time again, stricter laws leads to the opposite of its intentions. Self-mutilation - you are hurting yourself. I would decriminalize it though, unless these people are putting themselves in hospitals. Bestiality - You are doing it with an animal without its consent.Famiking

Is it the stricter laws or the culture of the area in which the laws are placed? You're confusing correlation with causation.

Animals can consent; they have body language. Or are you saing a mute person can't consent to sex?