I believe it is about celebrating the birth of our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. (Matthew 1:21) - "And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins." Please note: This topic's purpose is evangelism; please keep the topic relating around Christian subjects - i.e. the Bible, and, of course, the question. Thank you, and God bless, Crushmaster.
I voted for the second option. I personally am not religious anymore, but most of my family is, so that's why we celebrate Christmas. I see it as mostly a time to get together with family and friends to have a good time.
well the holiday itself was fashioned for commercialism.. (santa clause actually has the coca cola colors) but to me its just spending time with friends and family
[QUOTE="Crushmaster"][QUOTE="msudude211"]One and two. Birth of Christ, and family.-TheSecondSign-
Which do you think is more important? I'd assume Christ, Mr Billy Graham. I'm a good deal different than Billy Graham. He's very Biblically unsound and liberal, if I recall correctly.
[QUOTE="tzar3"]The greed of having possessive materials. That is the meaning of Christmas.Crushmaster
Why do you think that?
Because my christmas as always been like that, giving, giving, giving and giving, I got showered with gifts, sometimes I was so consumed by greed I even teared open some presents when I wasn't suppose to. But now that I am older I could care less of materials, unless they benefit me in some way. Either way everyone loves gifts.
[QUOTE="Crushmaster"][QUOTE="tzar3"]The greed of having possessive materials. That is the meaning of Christmas.tzar3
Why do you think that?
Because my christmas as always been like that, giving, giving, giving and giving, I got showered with gifts, sometimes I was so consumed by greed I even teared open some presents when I wasn't suppose to. But now that I am older I could care less of materials, unless they benefit me in some way. Either way everyone loves gifts.
[QUOTE="Crushmaster"]I'm a good deal different than Billy Graham. He's very Biblically unsound and liberal, if I recall correctly.battlefront23
I'm sorry but I disagree. It's harder to find a man more on fire for God then Billy Graham, even if his theology is wrong. ...Perhaps he is. But that does not make him any less liberal or Biblically unsound.
[QUOTE="battlefront23"][QUOTE="Crushmaster"]I'm a good deal different than Billy Graham. He's very Biblically unsound and liberal, if I recall correctly.Crushmaster
I'm sorry but I disagree. It's harder to find a man more on fire for God then Billy Graham, even if his theology is wrong. ...Perhaps he is. But that does not make him any less liberal or Biblically unsound. You're missing the point. In the end of all things, what does God care about in terms of salvation? Believing in Christ, and I think it's clearly obvious he does. And that's all that matters.
[QUOTE="Crushmaster"][QUOTE="battlefront23"] I'm sorry but I disagree. It's harder to find a man more on fire for God then Billy Graham, even if his theology is wrong. battlefront23
...Perhaps he is. But that does not make him any less liberal or Biblically unsound. You're missing the point. In the end of all things, what does God care about in terms of salvation? Believing in Christ, and I think it's clearly obvious he does. And that's all that matters. Yes, believing in Christ and repenting of your sins is all that is neccessary for salvation. But our beliefs and our actions reflect our walk and our faith.
Yes, believing in Christ and repenting of your sins is all that is neccessary for salvation. But our beliefs and our actions reflect our walk and our faith.Crushmaster
Exactly. He's one of the most influential American evangelist ever besides Edwards. I think that reflects well on him.
[QUOTE="Crushmaster"]Yes, believing in Christ and repenting of your sins is all that is neccessary for salvation. But our beliefs and our actions reflect our walk and our faith.battlefront23
Exactly. He's one of the most influential American evangelist ever besides Edwards. I think that reflects well on him. You may believe what you will about him.
[QUOTE="Crushmaster"] You may believe what you will about him. But your own statement disproves your earlier posts. If his beliefs and actions show anything it's that he's on fire for God.
For many, its hanging decorations and getting expensive presents. The holiday that is Christmas has nothing to do with Jesus. In fact, as someone else already mentioned, its a pagan holiday. December 25th is not Jesus's birthday. The bible doesn't even say when his birthday was, so to give a specific day of his birth is rubbish.
For many, its hanging decorations and getting expensive presents. The holiday that is Christmas has nothing to do with Jesus. In fact, as someone else already mentioned, its a pagan holiday. December 25th is not Jesus's birthday. The bible doesn't even say when his birthday was, so to give a specific day of his birth is rubbish. dog64
I don't think many Christians believe Christ was indeed born on December 25th.
From a standpoint on what is the meaning of Christmas, I say it is about the birth of Christ that became from combining the story with the celebration of the Winter ?Solcasis?. Christian societies have adapted the Pagan holiday, to be a Holiday for Jesus. The nature of Christmas, though, can really incorporate anybody. Giving gifts are to represent what Christ did on the cross: he gave his life. But really anybody can celebrate it, because it has universal attributes, so the meaning might not be the same for everyone. Still I say "Christmas" is rooted in Christianity. Some might think of it as a day just to get stuff, but that really is the opposite of what the meaning is about (many have probably felt that way, which I'm guilty of.)
We celebrate the fact that Christ was born in this earth more than 2,000 years ago. It has lost much of its meaning, though, and a lot of people put their eyes in the wrong things, while others don't even like to say "Christmas" and prefer to say "Holidays" instead (wonder why, huh?). At a personal level, being with my family is the next more important thing. And if I get that delay pedal for my electric guitar... ~de arimasu :P
I believe it's meaning has changed over time. At first it was a pagan holiday, then the day of Jesus Christ's birth was manipulated to become December 25th, then with the advent of American consumerism it is now a month long spend fest. I just enjoy the whole month, spending time with family, and watching the kids open presents, but don't in any shape form or fashion believe it's the birth date of Jesus. Easter on the other hand is a different story.
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