What Do You Think Is The True Meaning Of Christmas?

Since not much discussion is going on I'll pose a question to any non-Christians that want to contribute.

What do you think is the reason that Jesus came into the world?

One and two. Birth of Christ, and family.msudude211

Since not much discussion is going on I'll pose a question to any non-Christians that want to contribute.

What do you think is the reason that Jesus came into the world?

blackregiment

[QUOTE="blackregiment"]

Since not much discussion is going on I'll pose a question to any non-Christians that want to contribute.

What do you think is the reason that Jesus came into the world?

Funky_Llama

Jesus felt otherwise. He had a lot to say on why He came into the World. Here is what Jesus said regarding His purpose.

[QUOTE="Funky_Llama"][QUOTE="blackregiment"]

Since not much discussion is going on I'll pose a question to any non-Christians that want to contribute.

What do you think is the reason that Jesus came into the world?

blackregiment

Jesus felt otherwise. He had a lot to say on why He came into the World. Here is what Jesus said regarding His purpose.

Mar 10:45 For even the Son of man came not to be ministered unto, but to minister, and to give his life a ransom for many.

Luk 19:10 For the Son of man is come to seek and to save that which was lost.

Joh 3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.

Mat 9:13But go ye and learn what that meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice: for I am not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.

Yeah but why should some people care for his teachings anyways? So we can retain the glory of god and be able to spend an eternity in a place called Heaven?

What for anyways? I would rather rot inside a coffin.

Actually, a lot of people don't think its the true birthdate of Jesus Christ.

Even if it isn't, its still a celebration of the event.

-TheSecondSign-

Since not much discussion is going on I'll pose a question to any non-Christians that want to contribute.

What do you think is the reason that Jesus came into the world?

blackregiment

To spread what he perceived as God's word.

[QUOTE="blackregiment"][QUOTE="Funky_Llama"]I don't think there is one.tzar3

Jesus felt otherwise. He had a lot to say on why He came into the World. Here is what Jesus said regarding His purpose.

Mar 10:45 For even the Son of man came not to be ministered unto, but to minister, and to give his life a ransom for many.

Luk 19:10 For the Son of man is come to seek and to save that which was lost.

Joh 3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.

Mat 9:13But go ye and learn what that meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice: for I am not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.

Yeah but why should some people care for his teachings anyways? So we can retain the glory of god and be able to spend an eternity in a place called Heaven?

What for anyways? I would rather rot inside a coffin.

God gives us each a free will to choose where we will spend eternity. The thing is, we all will live an after life, it is juat a matter of where. Those that accept Christ as their Lord and Savior will spend eternity in Paradise with no sin, no pain, no suffering, no hunger, no war, no tears, no poverty. At the second coming The Lord will create a new earth.

Rev 21:1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
Rev 21:2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
Rev 21:3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.
Rev 21:4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
Rev 21:5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.

[QUOTE="blackregiment"]

Since not much discussion is going on I'll pose a question to any non-Christians that want to contribute.

What do you think is the reason that Jesus came into the world?

Dark_Knight6

To spread what he perceived as God's word.

It is more than what He perceived, it is what He knew. He was God incarnate, one person of the Trinity.

Since not much discussion is going on I'll pose a question to any non-Christians that want to contribute.

What do you think is the reason that Jesus came into the world?

blackregiment

[QUOTE="Funky_Llama"][QUOTE="blackregiment"]

Since not much discussion is going on I'll pose a question to any non-Christians that want to contribute.

What do you think is the reason that Jesus came into the world?

blackregiment

Jesus felt otherwise. He had a lot to say on why He came into the World. Here is what Jesus said regarding His purpose.

It is more than what He perceived, it is what He knew. He was God incarnate, one person of the Trinity.

blackregiment

I doubt that.

[QUOTE="blackregiment"][QUOTE="Funky_Llama"]I don't think there is one.Funky_Llama

Jesus felt otherwise. He had a lot to say on why He came into the World. Here is what Jesus said regarding His purpose.

Mar 10:45 For even the Son of man came not to be ministered unto, but to minister, and to give his life a ransom for many.

Luk 19:10 For the Son of man is come to seek and to save that which was lost.

Joh 3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.

Mat 9:13But go ye and learn what that meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice: for I am not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.

Well God gave us each a free will to believe that or not. Jesus told us what His purpose for coming was. I trust what He said.

[QUOTE="blackregiment"]

It is more than what He perceived, it is what He knew. He was God incarnate, one person of the Trinity.

Dark_Knight6

I doubt that.

God gave you the freedom to do that if you choose.

God gave you the freedom to do that if you choose.

blackregiment

The problem is, there isn't any proof he even exists.

[QUOTE="blackregiment"]

Since not much discussion is going on I'll pose a question to any non-Christians that want to contribute.

What do you think is the reason that Jesus came into the world?

dave123321

If I might ask, what makes you think that God does not exist?.

[QUOTE="blackregiment"]

God gave you the freedom to do that if you choose.

Dark_Knight6

The problem is, there isn't any proof he even exists.

EDIT: Aww, the only time I predict it happening, it doesn't happen. :x

[QUOTE="blackregiment"]

God gave you the freedom to do that if you choose.

Dark_Knight6

The problem is, there isn't any proof he even exists.

Maybe not any that you wish to admit, but there is a lot more evidence of His existence than His non-existence.

We have been through this before on another thread.

God gave you the freedom to do that if you choose.

The problem is, there isn't any proof he even exists.

God gave you the freedom to do that if you choose.

The problem is, there isn't any proof he even exists.

This thread is about to spiral out of control.123625

Is that what you are hoping for?

Maybe not any that you wish to admit, but there is a lot more evidence of His existence than His non-existence.

We have been through this before on another thread.

blackregiment

Anything aside from what the Bible says?

[QUOTE="123625"]This thread is about to spiral out of control.blackregiment

Is that what you are hoping for?

No.... Why would I be?

[QUOTE="Funky_Llama"][QUOTE="Dark_Knight6"]

The problem is, there isn't any proof he even exists.

danwallacefan

do you mean evidence, or do you simply mean that there is no mathematical proof for God's existence? danwallacefan

I mean evidence. I personally have yet to see any.

[QUOTE="blackregiment"]

[QUOTE="123625"]This thread is about to spiral out of control.123625

Is that what you are hoping for?

No.... Why would I be?

Can we keep the topic to the meaning of christmas, instead of the (profanity removed) existence of God?123625

Jesus Christ is the meaning of Christmas. Jesus Christ was God incarnate, therefore, if there are questions regarding His existence, they are appropriate to this discussion.

Maybe not any that you wish to admit, but there is a lot more evidence of His existence than His non-existence.

We have been through this before on another thread.

Anything aside from what the Bible says?

[QUOTE="danwallacefan"]do you mean evidence, or do you simply mean that there is no mathematical proof for God's existence? Dark_Knight6

I mean evidence. I personally have yet to see any.

[QUOTE="123625"]Can we keep the topic to the meaning of christmas, instead of the (profanity removed) existence of God?blackregiment

Jesus Christ is the meaning of Christmas. Jesus Christ was God incarnate, therefore, if there are questions regarding His existence, they are appropriate to this discussion.

Because as we all know, anyone who is not a creationist who believes in Biblical inerrancy is bent on causing chaos.Funky_Llama

[QUOTE="blackregiment"]

Maybe not any that you wish to admit, but there is a lot more evidence of His existence than His non-existence.

We have been through this before on another thread.

Dark_Knight6

Anything aside from what the Bible says?

There is much evidence for the existence of God in His Creation.

[QUOTE="Dark_Knight6"]

[QUOTE="danwallacefan"]do you mean evidence, or do you simply mean that there is no mathematical proof for God's existence? danwallacefan

I mean evidence. I personally have yet to see any.

Maybe not any that you wish to admit, but there is a lot more evidence of His existence than His non-existence.

We have been through this before on another thread.

Anything aside from what the Bible says?

[QUOTE="danwallacefan"][QUOTE="Dark_Knight6"]

I mean evidence. I personally have yet to see any.

darklord888

[QUOTE="Funky_Llama"] Because as we all know, anyone who is not a creationist who believes in Biblical inerrancy is bent on causing chaos.123625

For one pleading that the thread not go off-topic, you sure seem to be trying to discuss something that is off-topic, Bible translations.

[QUOTE="danwallacefan"][QUOTE="Dark_Knight6"]

Anything aside from what the Bible says?

darklord888

[QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="Funky_Llama"] Because as we all know, anyone who is not a creationist who believes in Biblical inerrancy is bent on causing chaos.blackregiment

For one pleading that the thread not go off-topic, you sure seem to be trying to discuss something that is off-topic, Bible translations.

[QUOTE="Funky_Llama"][QUOTE="danwallacefan"] well its a far cry from the claim "there is no evidence for God". But regardless there is quite a lot of evidence for the existence of God including the Teleological argument, the moral argument, the various cosmological arguments, and of course the vast array of historical evidence for jesus' resurrection. danwallacefan

[QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="Funky_Llama"] Because as we all know, anyone who is not a creationist who believes in Biblical inerrancy is bent on causing chaos.blackregiment

For one pleading that the thread not go off-topic, you sure seem to be trying to discuss something that is off-topic, Bible translations.

P.S I had no intention of discussing translations...

[QUOTE="danwallacefan"][QUOTE="Funky_Llama"]I can't help but have a fondness for the moral argument in all its brilliant rubbishness :lol:Funky_Llama

[QUOTE="Funky_Llama"][QUOTE="danwallacefan"] I have already blunted your favorite retort to the moral argument funky llama. danwallacefan